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What do you think of the relationship between the cranes and the Geass power? In the last episode, Lelouch comments on how the power of Geass is like a wish since it let's him request others to help him accomplish something that he couldn't do by himself (something like that). And in season one, the characters mention that cranes were supposed to grant you wishes. And the Geass symbol seems to be a bird, I remember it flying and... flapping its wings when going out of Lelouch's eyes.
Am I seeing too much into this? and is this a trope?
Anonymous: Any where you think I can get the Code Geass Game Lost Colors. Looks interesting, although I would prefer in English chubbyboy: Can we maybe do a page listing all the different geass powers? Adam850: Poultry? What the hell? Jisu: The pun is that the word "Geass" is based on "geas" rather than "geese". Ever read Pratchett? Fencedude: Code Grease? Thats a new one to me, I always heard "Code Pizza Hut" (Or Code Pizza Butt, in honor of C.C.'s ass...) Jisu: I just heard "Pizza Hut Supports The Rebellion". Cassius335: I will get redirects right next time. I will get redirects right next time. I will get redirects right next time... Citizen: Japan had tanks. AmuroNT1: Is it really fair to consider Lelouch a candidate for Rape The Dog? The only time he forces people to kill themselves is when his own life is in danger, and he goes out of his way to avoid civilian deaths. I mean, sure, he shot his half-brother in the face, but this IS the half-brother who had no problem ordering a city full of innocents to be slaughtered just to cover up one little gaffe. Bob: No, it's not. I cut it when it came up before The Great Crash and now I've done it again. Just wondering: since when did Lelouch kill his evil brother? Jordan: I forget the name of the brother, but the one he confronts in the first episode, he puts a gun to his head and there is a state funeral afterward- I did kind of wonder if he was still alive since I'm not sure if you actually see Lelouch shoot him but I assume he did. Also, a question- is there any meaning behind the use of "orange" as an insult?
Charred Knight: Deleted the brutally subverted from Wide Eyed Idealist, since a subversion of the Wide Eyed Idealist trope would be if Euphemia convinces the Emperor to abandon world domination, and the first season ends with Lelouch, the Emperor, Britannia's army, and the Japanese resistance, sitting around a fire making smores. The trope Wide Eyed Idealist either means that the Idealist dies horribly (Euphemia) or loses their idealism (The Scrappy). Also deleted the Wanking on the Wham Episode, several people hated it (since the plot twist was completely forced) and some people found it the funniest scene in the entire series (me). I should also point out that Episode 22 is a horrible example of a Wham Episode. A Wham Episode should come naturally with hinting about the event, and the Wham comes naturally. An example, is the revalation of the Big Bad in Bleach. It made complete sense, it was a natural ending to the mystery of Rukia's execution, and its hinted previously. If you look back one of the subordinates, confronts the Big Bad right in front of one of the good guys. The result is that the good guy thinks the subordinate killed the Big Bad, and fights him in revenge. Charred Knight: If you don't figure out that Britannia is a villan by the end of the first episode your an idiot. Its not like their protrayed sympathetically, their basically an even more over the top version of Nazi Germany. Chris X: Please add tropes regarding to a character to the the character sheet Cassius335: Please add messages asking this to the pages themselves, as people are less likely too see it in Discussion pages. Chris X: Added messages like this, and people still do it. They have better give the proper excuse of adding character-related tropes in the main show trope, here in this page! As if the character sheets mean nothing at all -_- Cassius335: They're still new. Give it time. Attilargh: Is there a picture any smaller that shows the main characters? That's pretty damn big. Cassius335: Nuked it. Mark Lungo: Can't you just resize the picture instead? It was awesome. Cassius335: Actually, I can't (I never got round to getting that uploader account). Someone who does have an uploader account might be persuaded, but I make no guarantee's. Gloating Swine: Cut
Gloating Swine: Putting this here instead of the main page
Gloating Swine: Nuking Discussion In The Main Page.
Anonymous: There's got to be some tropes we can add for Sayoko after R2 ep. 12, but I'm not sure if we have pages for some of these. Here's a sampling of possibilities:
Attilargh: You know when an example's too long? When it takes twelve lines on a twenty-inch widescreen monitor. Seriously, think before editing. Yarshy Yarblocks: Does that mean an example that lists multiple tropes as part of the example is still a sign that its editor is retarded? Because that's what I did. Attilargh: If you're referring to the Lensman Arms Race example, you don't need to do that. Few tropes exist in a vacuum, so if one was to connect all the dots on a single page, we'd end up with a kilometre of redundancy. Also, a page listing tropes used in a series doesn't have to go to all that much detail regarding any specific trope, there's the trope's own page for that. And finally, I honestly didn't mean to imply you (or anyone else) was retarded, apologies. Yarshy Yarblocks: Gotcha. I'll try and keep that in mind from here on out. Rogue 7: Y'know, here I am, enjoying the dub on Adult Swim every Saturday night, happy to watch it just like normal TV...and then you guys come with your stupid spoilers that I seem unable to resist highlighting and now I'm desperately watching the torrent of the subs for season one slowly inch towards completion. I hope you're happy.
Etrangere: Can you keep capslock rants out the main page, please? This kind of things don't fit in there. Anonymous: Speaking of things that don't belong... Not to be a jackass, but if English isn't your first language, don't try to sum up a Thirty Xanatos Pileup in a 7-line spoiler block as shown here:
Haesslich: Episode 21's out. Does geassing God/Jupiter to kill your parents count as a Crowning Moment of Awesome or more along the lines of a Jumping the Shark moment? Especially with his new Knight of Zero, Suzaku. Weren't they trying to kill each other an episode or two ago for killing one another's loved ones off? X Shouldve Died: The shark has been jumped. The writers have abandoned the premise of manipulative Chess Master taking on The Empire and now they're doing, well... Fuck if I know where they're taking the plot from here, I just want off the damn roller coaster. Rogue 7: The roller coaster as a whole is spiraling dangerously out of control, but each individual loop is still making me go [[HSQ Holy Shit!]] Also- Cut British Nazis. I mean, really Aquilla Ronin, quit with the flame bait. Later: Cut again. And I'll keep doing it. "Smirking racism"? It's a motherfucking japanese show to begin with! Charred Knight: What the hell does it being Japanese have anything to do with it? I agree that its somewhat flame bait, I just want to know what you mean? Rogue 7: The idea that someone could be racist against their own country strikes me as somewhat retarded. Charred Knight: I thought you where talking about Japanese tendency to use Eagleland. Also ironically Bobby Fischer, the most famous chess player was a hardcore anti-semite when his mother was Jewish. So their are people like that. Charred Knight: Deleted Refuge In Audacity for second half. In terms of plot points it hasn't gotten any stranger. Lelouch geassing human conscious makes perfect sense, since hios Geass works on the human conscious it should work on the sum of human conscious. The problem is that it looks like Tanaguchi has stopped giving a shit, and so the mecha battle sucked, and he ducks the issue that he showed Britannia as mostly racist. All of a sudden Tanaguchi screaming that it was only the nobles that are racist isn't Refuge In Audacity its bad writing. Charred Knight: The reason why I am so hard on Code Geass is quite simple, Goro Tanaguchi whined about how his work was comprimised so instead of comparing it to Gundam Seed, I compared it to Zeta Gundam. It fails at Zeta Gundam, and R2 isn't even as good as Gundam Wing. Madonis: Zeta Gundam? I've never even thought of making that comparison myself and prefer to focus on the show as it is. And well, I do enjoy Code Geass more than Gundam Wing and Seed, but then again, everyone has a different opinion. Amuro NT 1: Okay, someone explain to me who keeps claiming that this show is a Shout Out to Evangelion and why, because frankly, the whole thing just comes off to me as someone REALLY stretching to make a comparison. Also, to Charred Knight: Taniguchi NEVER complained about his work being "compromised". All this whining you're attributing to him never happened, and all evidence points to him still absolutely loving this show. BTW, for what it's worth, Zeta Gundam isn't that good. Charred Knight: It was a mistake on my part, I mistook his low self esteem (compared to actual talent) for an artist who was frustrated that his masterpiece was being ruined. It was from the part on Code Geass' R2 opening. Jordan: I was interested to know what Lelouch's power is in the manga and how that storyline goes compared with the anime. Zhirzzh: In the manga that comes with the limited edition his geass is exactly the same, but there are no Knightmare Frames. The other main difference is that the Ashford school has 11s and Britannians integrated. Charred Knight: I just want to give thanks to Madonis for the improvement to They Wasted A Good Plot, especially pointing out how badly explained it was. Code Geass to me will always be remembered as the mediocre anime that could have been one of the greatest anime ever with sufficient planning, and character development. More a suggestion than anything else, but I think there should be a Fan Fic Rec page. Lelouch of Brittania at least deserves a spotlight, slow though it is to update. Charred Knight: Given that Okouchi has flat out stated that Lelouch is dead, should we start re-writing some parts? I did some rewriting in He's Hiding, and Heroic Sacrifice Gloating Swine: Cut
Anonymous: On the subject of Book Ends, the last line of the first and last episodes of season 1 are the same in Japanese — "da kara," which roughly means "because of that" or "so then." I haven't watched the official translation, and the fansubbers were all over the place on that line since the meaning is so contextual in Japanese, so could someone who knows what the line was in the official translation make a note of that? Charred Knight: The problem is that in the second world war the asian countries and white countries where not divided by race. China, the USA, Britain and her allies, and the USSR where fighting Germany, Italy, and Japan. If it was a supposed reference to World War II than they failed miserably.
Charred Knight: I deleted the mention of Both sides getting Sympathetic POV since that only happens to two Britannian characters Euphemia, and Suzaku. The Britannian Empire is always protrayed as full of evil racist who happen to have a few good loyal soldiers. It's kind of hard to find sympathy when no sympathy is deserved. Rogue 7: I feel like Cornelia and Jeremiah got some sympathy, but perhaps my perception's been colored by Lelouch of Britannia. Gloating Swine: Cut
"Except that turned out to be part of Lelouch's plan to make everybody hate him." I removed the following line due to the fallaciousness of it. Lelouch came up with zero reqium in response to his betrayal. If it was really a part of his plan all along, he wouldn't have been surprised by said betrayal. Actually, there's evidence that that was his plan all along. Charred Knight: No it wasn't, the betrayal was a complete surprise which is why Lelouch barely escaped with his life, lost his army, had to brainwash a new one, and was probably supposed to be the major reason why Lelouch uses Redemption Equals Death, Mostl likely if the betrayal had not happened Lelouch would still be alive at the end. I need to know whether (totally irrelevant) Lost Colors will play on an American PSP. Please help, even though it doesn't belong here!
Rogue 7: For all that adult swim did to screw this show over, I feel this description is bizarrely appropriate: Recipe for Geass: take military occupation, genocide, fighting robots, and frequently nude high school girls with the bodies of 25 year old super models giggling about a first kiss like they were in 5th grade. Mix in some bewildering interactions and unidentifiable emotions and bake in Japan. It's kind of like watching the history channel narrated by your ten year old nephew after a blow to the head. Madonis: Errr...just kinda, but it is strangely amusing, which is what [as] is all about. Which is why it's worth a smile and not actually nitpicking. Haven: wordle 
fleb: Didn't this description used to talk about "roller-skating mecha" and the " Haven: Took out this bit from They Wasted A Perfectly Good Plot because it's natter-y, and untrue for a few reasons: She wasn't "mostly dormant", Anya had huge swaths of time missing from her memories. Also, Anya was the youngest person ever to be made a Knight of Rounds, which points to Marianne's influence, as Marianne was a Knight of Rounds while she was alive. And yes, Bismarck did explicitly say he used his Geass against Marianne.
Haven: Just ran into a hilarious Funny Aneurysm Moment on the Television Without Pity boards. Around the time the 6th episode or so of R2 came out, someone posted "This show has all the subtlety of a tac-nuke" and received the reply "A nuke could only improve things." Haven: Madonis, I don't like edit wars, but it's verifiable that his cockpit is in view the entire time and neither opens nor ejects. There is a pillar, but it's only blocking the tip of the hatch.
Madonis: That's the thing, it's not in view the entire time and the pillar is only part of it. Whether his loss was staged or not (but even more likely if it was), Suzaku objectively had to find a way to survive because of his "Live" Geass. The camera intentionally focuses on what Kallen's mecha is doing (falling off only to be rescued by what's left of the Tristan Divider) during a couple of key seconds, before we get to see Lancelot explode, seconds during which Suzaku could have arguably opened the hatch off-screen since he's got the reflexes of a freaking superhuman and just can't choose to allow himself to die. It's still Not Quite Dead, I'm not arguing that, but not because it's literally impossible for him to get out, just because how he did it is never visibly shown.
Kris Mahai: Removed several character tropes from the main page; they're already on the character sheet and it's noted at the top to only add them on there. I left a couple there, because I wasn't sure it they counted. Such as Large Ham, for example. Is that a character trope? Also, removed some Natter from the Idiot Plot bullet:
Charred Knight: cut because only one interpertation of Taniguchi backs up "Lelouch could be alive", all other quotes such as by Okouchi and the guide itself are quite clear that Lelouch is dead. In this case the clear quotes especially the ones in the guide trump a vague as hell quote from Taniguchi.
Xylon Lionheart: Why exactly was Lying Creator deleted? That trope was very clearly invoked with Nunnally's supposed death during the original airing of R2 and is even the first example on said page. I know that some people do not like bringing that trope up because it opens up the possibility that Lelouch is still alive based on if you believe Word Of God or not, but that shouldn't matter because no matter what you believe about Lelouch's fate, the creators decidedly used the trope when the show was first being aired. EDIT: Apparently said example on the Lying Creator page itself was deleted as well. Again, why? TheRoguePenguin: Because the example given wasn't the creators lying, it was a sponsor site being misinformed (or rather not omniscient). Biglobe doesn't make the show, and that's who runs that site. There's a lot of Trivia in the Wild Mass Guess section, would it be ok if someone (let's say me) would import it there? And how would it be done? Would the texts be kept in both sections? |
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