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Georgie: I'm thinking Don Quixote fits, and I'm tempted to whack an extract from the musical in.
The verse with the relevant line runs
"To dream ... the impossible dream ...
To fight ... the unbeatable foe ...
To bear ... with unbearable sorrow ...
To run ... where the brave dare not go ...
To right ... the unrightable wrong ...
To love ... pure and chaste from afar ...
To try ... when your arms are too weary ...
To reach ... the unreachable star ... " Is any of it worth including?
Hasher Britarse: Okay, I'll bite, why is Jesus the penultimate example and not the ultimate?
Paul A: Obviously, because there has been exactly one more example since then.
Hi: How about Angel? Can't have sex.
Lale: "Can't" as in "unable" or "not allowed"? Because not-allowed-to-have-sex would be Virgin Power.
Earnest: He had sex with Darla, who was trying to make him soulless again, turns out it's only "no sex" if it's of the "True happiness" inspiring variety.
Bailey: He still fits the trope, though, as he spends the better part of six seasons pushing away any and all potential romantic interests, siting most of the reasons listed on this page. One night with Darla is the only exception and he's shown to be in the throws of some sort of nervous breakdown at the time. (His curse isn't quite Virgin Power, either — just a severe penalty for ever being truly happy, which sort of makes a dating a bad idea)
R: Shouldn't Odysseus being married instantly disqualify him? J: Even besides the "Odysseus is married" quibble, in all the versions of the myth I can remember, Circe actually succeeds in tricking Odysseus into her bed (for a whole year). Lale: Just because a sorceress turns your men into pigs is no reason for a Greek hero not to sleep with her. I deleted the entry about John Wayne because it just isn't true as many of his movies he had romantic interests such as Tall in the Saddle, Rio Grande and Rio Bravo to name a few. Daibhid C: Is Janeway not having a relationship with a subordinate really a Double Standard? Captain Kirk never had a relationship with Yeoman Rand (or Uhura, or Nurse Chapel) even though they were clearly his type (female, pulse...) And Picard never did anything about his feelings for Dr Crusher, either. (Well, not in canon. The Expanded Universe novels set after Nemesis are another matter.) I can think of two Star Trek couples where they're both in the same chain of command: Riker and Troi, where they spent 10 years not being involved because it would get in the way of the job before suddenly getting married, and Kira and Odo, where Kira's the superior officer. Anyway, for most of the series Janeway was saving herself for getting back to Mark, before learning he'd assumed she was dead, made his peace and moved on. Picture doesn't fit the trope at all; this is about a hero who avoids relationships and/or sex, not "real heroes abstain from sex" propaganda. |
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