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Geese: I'm just curious, what part of which game is the page quote from? It's glorious.

Nornagest: It's from the first game. If I recall correctly, it shows up in NPC dialogue in one of the wilderness areas between Beregost and Nashkell — I want to say exactly two wilderness tiles south of Beregost. An old hermit decides to be obtuse, and the player character is given the option to... snap. The page quote is the result of taking it.

Also, removed this:

* Canon Dis Continuity (Viconia is supposedly from Menzoberranzan, but House De'Vir in Menzoberranzan was wiped out several decades before the game time in the Homeland nover by R.A. Salvatore, which means Viconia must have been on the surface for over 70 years. Oh, and the matron of House De'Vir was killed by Zaknafein Do'Urden, not Viconia's brother)

...see my note on the Canon Dis Continuity discussion.

AstraKiseki: It's not a rabbit bhaalspawn, it's a chinchilla. The sprite does look like a rabbit, but if you scroll over it, it says it's a chinchilla.

Twe Twe: RE a word in Imoen's sheet potholed to Rape as Drama, which I admittedly did. It is debatable, definitely, but in ToB if Imoen gives a piece of her soul to Sarevok you get a small conversation, and paraphrasing one of Sarevok's lines, "I can feel his hands and his breath, I know what he did to you, girl..." As I said, debatable, but it's good enough for me.

Hydro Globus: Please learn to use =] and [= tags when you are about to write the words BG1, BG2 or ToB! "NPCs" is best formatted like this. I just spent 20 minutes correcting the character sheet...


Kizor: Removed these from novelization in a fit of anger. May have made a mistake in doing so.

  • If such a novelization were to exist... and this troper isn't saying it does!... He would have to advise, just as a public service announcement, that you don't buy, read, or even stare directly at it. He... hypothetically... read it, and it is really, really awful. Like, toxic, almost. Hypothetically.
    • This troper did stare at something that looked like the novelisation of the game. From less than 30 feet. Since nothing bad happened to him, it is likely that the book is not a novelisation of the game, but since there is a book with the title Baldur's Gate, it's very probable that the game isn't novelised. At all.
    • Describing the hypothetical novelization of Baldur's Gate (purely hypothetical, mind you!) as 'toxic' would be regarded as an insult to good poisons everywhere. This troper would not dignify calling the pages it would have been printed on as toilet paper, as mere contact with the stuff would probably give you cholera.
  • Adaptation Decay (The fact that any novelization would likely contain lots of this explains why none so far exists.)
  • Character Derailment (To the point where you wonder if the author of these totally hypothetical novels has ever been in the same room as a copy of the game, much less played it.)
  • Designated Hero (Abdel, the totally nonexistent hero of these totally nonexistent novels, is not exactly a shining beacon of goodness. More specifically, he murders at least one person I can think of for no reason, steals another man's wife and then cheats on her with a vampire, and completely and utterly fails to actually save or help anyone, largely due to his own stupidity and lack of self-control. ...Actually, since the game allows you to create and play as a bastard of this magnitude, this is probably the closest the novelization ever got to being like the game. Or should I say 'the closest it would have gotten'?)
    • Said character has a save file with a similar character included with one of the games, while supposedly neutral good, has a party of entirely evil characters.
  • Everybodys Dead Dave (Hypothetically, we could also say that no one except for Gorion's ward makes it to the end of the trilogy alive. Hypothetically speaking, of course. It's impossible to spoil something that doesn't exist.)
  • Suddenly Sexuality (So in one of these completely nonexistent and theoretical novels, it turns out Imoen is into chicks)

Sotanaht I'll freely admit that I never found the novels to be quite THAT bad. I was able to read through the first two, though I was exceptionally BORED otherwise at the time. Dis Continuity I can accept, they are not even good much less something I would want to attach to canon in much the same way I would not attach a plague rat to it, but they are not worthy of quite so much bile that it nearly compromises the page.

Hydro Globus: Sure it is. It didn't get to the page by accident... But it is just my opinion, let's see if anyone agrees with me.

<a lot later...>

Hydro Globus again: Holy c***, no one?

Evil Midnight Lurker: Those novels were an offense against nature, the unnatural, fiction, reality, God, atheism, and anything else that ever has or has not existed. I say reinstate the rant.

Red Viking: I created a separate section for the novel examples at the bottom of the page. I've seen this format used before so hopefully this will satisfy those involved in this Edit War.


General Nerd: Can we give the Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance series either a section on this page, or it's own page? I rather liked those games and would like to see more than a throwaway reference to them being similiar to Gauntlet (which I think isn't really true, except for the top-down view).