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Ununnilium: I was just reading about the comic-book origin of Cyborg from Teen Titans (lots of cliche black-guy stuff) and I was thinking. What about the opposite of Adaptation Decay - where an adaptation takes a complex character or situation, shears off all the annoying/confusing/outdated stuff, and uses the stuff that originally made it good? Tabby: Distillation, maybe? Ununnilium: Adaptation Distillation. I like. ``v Looney Toons: Works for me. osh: Quite swanky. I think Ultimate Universe should get rolled into this entry. Ununnilium: I think keeping them separate might work— an Ultimate Universe is an example of intentional Adaptation Distillation in the original medium. *edits UU to add that* YYZ: Anyone else think that that LOTR reference sounds a little too much like a heavily biased personal opinion? The thing about "anyone who can actually stomach the books" doesn't sound quite right to me. Then again, I have the same problem with the entire Faux Action Girl article, but nobody's dumped that. Ununnilium: It definitely was. Robert's edit cleared that right up, though. Sikon: I don't think Star Wars belongs here. The Clone Wars miniseries is not an adaptaion, it's part of the same overall continuity. Ununnilium: Changed "modern" to Post Crisis because Wally isn't the Flash anymore. (Oh, Bart, what have they done to you...) Peteman: I'm curious as the the Fantastic Four movie... I found that movie fairly bad, and Reed's discovery of the way to reverse Ben's transformation undermines the character. KGarrett: Deleted the line saying, "* Although strictly a continuation rather than an adaptation, the revived Doctor Who series has a much more consistent continuity than the original series, and sticks close to some established bits of mythology while discarding many others." because it simply isn't true. The revived series totally ruined Doctor Who, and to be frank it's obvious the person who put that in works for RTD. Matthew The Raven: Yes. Anyone who has a positive opinion of the new Doctor Who is on RTD's pay-roll. Every. Single. One. Because RTD is the head of a vast TV production empire with employees numbering in the millions. And he personally wants to ruin everything you love. ninjacrat: Ssssh... not in front of the cattle. Austin: I've not read the Ultimate Marvel comics, but from what I've heard most of the characters aren't as well-rounded as their original counterparts. I hear that they take a flaw from the original character, blow it out of proportion, and make it the sole trait of the character. Are the plots of those comics just good enough to make up for this? I also have to object to The Punisher MAX. I haven't read it in a long time, but Ennis was constantly getting worse in regards to that comic, and the MAX series relied on gore, swearing and badly written one-sided political commentary instead of good characters and good plots. Garyuu That's not quite how it works... in the case of Peter Parker at least, though I don't read much else. Avengers does occasionally suffer that problem. Badly. Shay Guy:
Shay Guy: "He still doesn't want to pilot his EVA, but this time around his motives for not wanting to do so are logical and have a fair amount of bite to them..." I must have missed that. What got changed, exactly? alexanderthegreat: I disagree with this entry: "The original Conan The Barbarian stories were somewhat unsuited to adaptation to film, and the original script for the movie of Conan The Barbarian featured lots of huge fight scenes that would have been expensive to shoot. John Milius took both as inspirations for writing the movie, which turned out to be extremely entertaining and well thought out, preserving the feel of R.E. Howard's world without the unfortunate tropes. Don't talk about Conan The Destroyer, though." The Conan stories were and are perfectly suitable to film adaptation: the Marvel comics were remarkably faithful given the CCA's stranglehold, and recent Dark Horse comics barely have to change a word. The reference to "unfortunate tropes" is unnecessary since the more racist elements only affect a small percentage of the stories. I would word it like this: "While it bears very little resemblance to the original Conan stories, John Milius' Conan the Barbarian took elements, scenes and characters from the stories and placed them in a new narrative of his own creation. The result may not be a true adaptation of Robert E. Howard's work, but even some Howard scholars consider it a fine film when viewed on its own merits, and it is often considered one of the finest Sword-and-Sorcery movies ever made. Don't talk about Conan the Destroyer, though." Malicious Illusion: I removed the Wicked entry; Wicked is a wholly different story with it's own plot and whatnot. Just because it's related and is supposed to be good doesn't mean it's a distillation, though. Insofar: Removed Gankutsuou, since it has many alterations and additions of mecha, to say nothing of the alien parasite supplanting the impetus of pure revenge found in the novel. Prfnoff: Removed The Sound Of Music, because I wouldn't call a 174-minute movie a distillation of a Broadway musical. "Making huge changes that were all for the better" is not this trope. Kudos Force: Does Rockman 7 FC |
