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Trope name is Sci Fi Writers Have No Sense Of Scale, not any of its subpages. Discussion here.


* SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfDistance:
** Averted as much as is possible for ''Franchise/StarWars'': realizing that the galaxy has over a ''million'' inhabited worlds, Zahn (unlike some other ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' writers) doesn't recycle locations from the films without good reason. And at those times when the heroes know they need to find something on an unfamiliar world, they don't act like knowing what planet it's on will make things easy. Planets are ''big''.
** He also realize that a light-year is an enormous distance; when Luke's X-Wing is determined to be somewhere within a light-year of Thrawn's Star Destroyer, Thrawn hires mercenaries to find it since it would take too long to search for themselves. Just because hyperdrive allows ''traveling'' along such a distance very rapidly doesn't mean that finding a 40-foot ship in a cubic light year is an easy prospect.
** Zahn also employs a notable {{Retcon}} to correct one particularly egregious instance of this trope from the original series. When Luke returns to Dagobah to search the old site of Yoda's hut, he finds (to his surprise) that he has absolutely no problem landing on the planet this time, and wonders if he originally crashed on Dagobah in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' because Yoda intentionally pulled his X-Wing to the surface with the Force. For confused fans, this finally explains how Luke managed to "accidentally" stumble upon Yoda's dwelling when he had never even been to Dagobah before: Yoda sensed his presence and guided him there.
* SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfUnits:
** Played straight in the numbers of ships aspect, which was apparent in the original trilogy. For the size of the galaxy, the 200 ship strong ''Katana'' ''Dreadnaught''-class Heavy Cruiser fleet should barely be considered a ''picket'' force, much less one that could turn the tables in a galaxy spanning war. Later sources clarify that at this point, the Republic and the Empire are almost perfectly matched in terms of materiel. The ''Katana'' fleet might not be much, but it's just enough to free up some other ships that are needed elsewhere, [[UnstableEquilibrium which will gradually lead to a snowballing effect and an insurmountable advantage]].
** Also, while bringing roughly 180 of the ''Katana'' fleet ships into his service did allow Thrawn to go more heavily on the offensive, it didn't ''decisively'' change the balance of power. Just tipped the scales slightly in the Empire's favor.



* SeanConneryIsAboutToShootYou: ''Dark Force Rising'' - Creator/HarrisonFord is about to shoot you while Creator/MarkHamill is about to lightsaber you.

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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale:
** Averted as much as is possible for ''Franchise/StarWars'': realizing that the galaxy has over a ''million'' inhabited worlds, Zahn (unlike some other ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' writers) doesn't recycle locations from the films without good reason. And at those times when the heroes know they need to find something on an unfamiliar world, they don't act like knowing what planet it's on will make things easy. Planets are ''big''.
** He also realize that a light-year is an enormous distance; when Luke's X-Wing is determined to be somewhere within a light-year of Thrawn's Star Destroyer, Thrawn hires mercenaries to find it since it would take too long to search for themselves. Just because hyperdrive allows ''traveling'' along such a distance very rapidly doesn't mean that finding a 40-foot ship in a cubic light year is an easy prospect.
** Zahn also employs a notable {{Retcon}} to correct one particularly egregious instance of this trope from the original series. When Luke returns to Dagobah to search the old site of Yoda's hut, he finds (to his surprise) that he has absolutely no problem landing on the planet this time, and wonders if he originally crashed on Dagobah in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' because Yoda intentionally pulled his X-Wing to the surface with the Force. For confused fans, this finally explains how Luke managed to "accidentally" stumble upon Yoda's dwelling when he had never even been to Dagobah before: Yoda sensed his presence and guided him there.
** Played straight in the numbers of ships aspect, which was apparent in the original trilogy. For the size of the galaxy, the 200 ship strong ''Katana'' ''Dreadnaught''-class Heavy Cruiser fleet should barely be considered a ''picket'' force, much less one that could turn the tables in a galaxy-spanning war. Later sources clarify that at this point, the Republic and the Empire are almost perfectly matched in terms of materiel. The ''Katana'' fleet might not be much, but it's just enough to free up some other ships that are needed elsewhere, [[UnstableEquilibrium which will gradually lead to a snowballing effect and an insurmountable advantage]]. Also, while bringing roughly 180 of the ''Katana'' fleet ships into his service did allow Thrawn to go more heavily on the offensive, it didn't ''decisively'' change the balance of power. Just tipped the scales slightly in the Empire's favor.
* SeanConneryIsAboutToShootYou: ''Dark Force Rising'' - -- Creator/HarrisonFord is about to shoot you while Creator/MarkHamill is about to lightsaber you.
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** In general, Thrawns actions, while well-thought out, tend to cause coincidences that harm him quite often. [[spoiler: His surprise visit on Myrkr resolves a stuck situation between Karrde and Solo/Calrissian and forces the former to side with the Republic, his insistence to leave his troops there indirectly causes the heroes to be at Sluis Van to foil his attack, his capture of Khabarakh gives Leia the time and opportunity to figure out the scheme of the Empire on Honoghr when she was about to call the mission a failure, his assassination squad keeps Mara long enough on Coruscant to reveal her knowledge about Wayland, and his provocation of C'baoth caused a delay, that allowed the Falcon to leave for the planet while they still could.]]. He may be a genius, but the Force is clearly not with him.
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: What happened to the ''Katana'' fleet?

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: What happened to the ''Katana'' fleet?fleet? [[note]]It's hinted in ''The Last Command'' that the ''Kantana'' and perhaps some of the other 13 remaining ships were taken by the New Republic which then refitted them for service in their navy, along with the six that made up General Bel Iblis's task force.[[/note]]
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* DudeNotFunny: Han brings the ''Falcon'' in for a bumpy landing on Wayland; in a CallBack to ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', he quips to Lando that at least the sensor dish is still there. Lando grouses that next time ''he'll'' destroy the shield generator and ''Han'' can fly her into the Death Star's superstructure. Neither of them laughs, as they both realize that the Empire is on such a roll under Thrawn that it just might be able to build a third Death Star.
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* OurClonesAreDifferent: Grand Admiral Thrawn uses Spaarti cylinders recovered from an Imperial tech cache on Wayland to create cloned soldiers to bolster Imperial numbers. It's explained that, due to a quirk of the Force, clones that are grown to adulthood too fast (less than a standard year) tend to go insane, which Thrawn solves by importing [[AntiMagic Force-negating creatures]] called ysalamiri from Myrkr. Luke Skywalker perceives the resulting clone troops as producing a sort of buzzing in his Force perception.
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*** And on top of that, FromACertainPointOfView she ''does'' briefly kneel before him... [[spoiler:in the process of stabbing him to death with a lightsaber.]]

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*** And on top of that, FromACertainPointOfView {{metaphorically|true}} speaking she ''does'' briefly kneel before him... [[spoiler:in the process of stabbing him to death with a lightsaber.]]
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* ALighterShadeOfBlack: Thrawn, at least by this point, is not a good person: he has absolutely no qualms about betraying Mara to get to Karrde in ''Dark Force Rising'', kidnapping someone's children and delivering them to be corrupted by an AxCrazy clone, and his military strategy involves growing his own [[CloningBlues slave soldiers by the thousands]] and throwing them at the Republic. But unlike most imperials, he's not a CardCarryingVillain. There is also a practical reason for this in that by the time the Thrawn trilogy took place the Empire no longer [[WeHaveReserves had endless reserves]] of beings and equipment, meaning the Empire could not recklessly throw away the lives of its soldiers.

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* ALighterShadeOfBlack: Thrawn, at least by this point, is not a good person: he has absolutely no qualms about betraying Mara to get to Karrde in ''Dark Force Rising'', kidnapping someone's children and delivering them to be corrupted by an AxCrazy clone, and his military strategy involves growing his own [[CloningBlues slave soldiers by the thousands]] thousands and throwing them at the Republic. But unlike most imperials, he's not a CardCarryingVillain. There is also a practical reason for this in that by the time the Thrawn trilogy took place the Empire no longer [[WeHaveReserves had endless reserves]] of beings and equipment, meaning the Empire could not recklessly throw away the lives of its soldiers.
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Cloning Blues renamed to Clone Angst as per TRS, specifically about angst from a character discovering that they're a clone.


* CloningBlues:
** Poor [[spoiler:Luuke]].
** One of the goodies in the Emperor's Vault on Wayland is a collection of "Spaarti" cloning tanks that can brew up a clone trooper in a tenth of a time Kaminoan cloning facilities can.[[note]]This isn't an "alternative technique", at the time the novels were written this was how clones were created, before ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' completely {{retcon}}ned the circumstances of the Clone Wars.[[/note]] However, clones bred that fast go crazy because the Force resonates too strongly between large groups of individuals with similar minds. [[spoiler: This is solved by having ysalamiri placed in the cloning facility to keep this resonance from forming]].
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** Zahn introduces the Stokhli Spray Stick, an unconventional weapon which can both stun people and also allow one to play at being Franchise/SpiderMan. The Noghri use it when trying to capture a pregnant Leia because the stun setting on normal Star Wars blasters have a better than fifty-fifty shot of inducing a miscarriage and Thrawn wants the kids alive.

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** Zahn introduces the Stokhli Spray Stick, an unconventional weapon which can both stun people and also allow one to play at being Franchise/SpiderMan.ComicBook/SpiderMan. The Noghri use it when trying to capture a pregnant Leia because the stun setting on normal Star Wars blasters have a better than fifty-fifty shot of inducing a miscarriage and Thrawn wants the kids alive.
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This trilogy was one of the cornerstones of the now AlternateContinuity ''Legends'', being the first major work set after ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' (five years after to be exact), the first truly popular entry of the franchise since ''Return of the Jedi'', and serving as the introduction of some of the most beloved figures in ''Legends'' canon, like [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral Grand Admiral]] [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mitth%27raw%27nuruodo Thrawn]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade_Skywalker Mara Jade]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon Gilad Pellaeon]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde Talon Karrde]]. Back before [[Film/TheForceAwakens the]] [[Film/TheLastJedi Sequel]] [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Trilogy]] was made, many fans considered these stories to be the closest thing to an ''Episode VII'', ''Episode VIII'', and ''Episode IX'' that they would ever get. Years later, these stories are still regarded highly despite showing their age in some places.

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This trilogy was one of the cornerstones of the now AlternateContinuity ''Legends'', being the first major work set after ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' (five years after to be exact), the first truly popular entry of the franchise since ''Return of the Jedi'', and serving as the introduction of some of the most beloved figures in ''Legends'' canon, like [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral com/wiki/Grand_Admiral/Legends Grand Admiral]] [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mitth%27raw%27nuruodo com/wiki/Mitth%27raw%27nuruodo/Legends Thrawn]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade_Skywalker Mara Jade]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon/Legends Gilad Pellaeon]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde Talon Karrde]]. Back before [[Film/TheForceAwakens the]] [[Film/TheLastJedi Sequel]] [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Trilogy]] was made, many fans considered these stories to be the closest thing to an ''Episode VII'', ''Episode VIII'', and ''Episode IX'' that they would ever get. Years later, these stories are still regarded highly despite showing their age in some places.
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* MisfitLabRat: Karrde's top computer slicer, or hacker Zakarisz Ghent counts as one. Ghent was born a prodigy and was cracking high level Imperial codes at the age of 12.

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* MisfitLabRat: Karrde's top computer slicer, or hacker Zakarisz Ghent counts as one. Ghent was born a prodigy and was cracking high level Imperial codes at the age of 12.12 out of sheer boredom.
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* MisfitLabRat: Karrde's top computer slicer, or hacker Zakarisz Ghent counts as one. Ghent was born a prodigy and was cracking high level Imperial codes at the age of 12.
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** Although he still gets taken down a peg or two when he seizes control of all but a few of the 37,000 minds aboard the ''Chimaera'' in order to go and capture Leia's kids--and then Thrawn starts pointing out that yes, he's got a ship, but he's also got to actually ''get'' the ship to Coruscant over a minimum of five days, keeping control of the entire crew all the while, bypass Coruscant's defenses... and that's with one ship against the entire defense fleet of the capital of the Republic; he'd almost certainly need to bring along a support fleet...

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** Although he still gets taken down a peg or two when he seizes control of all but a few of the 37,000 minds aboard the ''Chimaera'' in order to go and capture Leia's kids--and then Thrawn starts pointing out that yes, he's got a ship, but he's also got to actually ''get'' the ship to Coruscant over a minimum of five days, keeping control of the entire crew all the while, while but also making sure they're still in a suitable condition to fight when they reach their destination, bypass Coruscant's defenses... and that's with one ship against the entire defense fleet of the capital of the Republic; he'd almost certainly need to bring along a support fleet...
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* FooledByTheSound: In ''Dark Force Rising'', Luke Skywalker gets his group past a guard by using the Force to make the guard think he heard a noise and look towards it, letting them sneak by while his back is turned.
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** Hyperdrive speeds are quoted as "Point Three, Point Four, Point Four Five, Point Five" in increasing order of speed -- this being based on the line in the first ''Star Wars'' film that "The ''Falcon'' can push point five past lightspeed". This was based on a logarithmic scale Zahn devised where 0 was a dead stop and 1 was infinite speed. Later ''Star Wars'' material changed this to the (arguably less logical) setup that the ''lower'' the number is, the faster it is -- specifically, it's all based on the idea of 1 as the "baseline" hyperdrive speed, so the "number" of a hyperdrive became the modifier to travel time. i.e., the ''Falcon'' is about twice as fast in hyperspace as most ships.

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** Hyperdrive speeds are quoted as "Point Three, Point Four, Point Four Five, Point Five" in increasing order of speed -- this being based on the line in the first ''Star Wars'' film that "The ''Falcon'' can push point five past lightspeed". This was based on a logarithmic scale Zahn devised where 0 was a dead stop and 1 was infinite speed. Later ''Star Wars'' material changed this to the (arguably less logical) setup that the ''lower'' the number is, the faster it is -- specifically, it's all based on the idea of 1 as the "baseline" hyperdrive speed, so the "number" of a hyperdrive became the modifier to travel time. i.e., the ''Falcon'' is about twice as fast in hyperspace as most ships. This comes from the West End Games Star Wars RPG, where a ship's hyperspace speed was listed as a "Hyperdrive Multiplier," a x1 hyperdrive was a military or really good civilian model, x2 was good, x5 was okay, x12 or x24 was good only for a backup, and x.5 was the fastest you could get. If the hyperlane between, say, Tattooine and Alderaan was stated to take 12 hours, a x1 would make the trip in 12 hours, x2 in 24, and so on, while the ''Millennium Falcon'' with its x.5 would get there in six hours.
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Given the BigBad is an alien, this trilogy introduced a slightly more human Galactic Empire -- still certainly villainous, but no longer a ZeroPercentApprovalRating organization. In movie terms, it is somewhat closer to Admiral Piett and Captain Needa than Darth Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin. Thrawn himself (the aforementioned alien BigBad) was certainly a [[TheChessmaster chessmaster]] of the highest caliber, one whom the reader did not hesitate in respecting. The trilogy also reflected the RealLife movement into the Information Age, with Thrawn (and Karrde opposite him) being able to [[HyperAwareness connect esoteric and obscure bits of data together into a much larger picture]]. Thrawn in particular was able to practice an [[SherlockScan almost obscene version of psychoanalysis]] on people and cultures by studying their artwork, using it to identify weaknesses in their thinking or perception patterns, and then exploiting said weaknesses in devastating ways. The trilogy, as implied by its name, concerns the adventures of the New Republic, particularly Luke, Han and Leia, to deal with Thrawn's plans, leadership and genius.

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Given the BigBad is an alien, this trilogy introduced a slightly more human Galactic Empire -- still certainly villainous, but no longer a ZeroPercentApprovalRating organization. In movie terms, it is somewhat closer to Admiral Piett and Captain Needa than Darth Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin. Thrawn himself (the aforementioned alien BigBad) was certainly a [[TheChessmaster chessmaster]] MagnificentBastard of the highest caliber, one whom the reader did not hesitate in respecting. The trilogy also reflected the RealLife movement into the Information Age, with Thrawn (and Karrde opposite him) being able to [[HyperAwareness connect esoteric and obscure bits of data together into a much larger picture]]. Thrawn in particular was able to practice an [[SherlockScan almost obscene version of psychoanalysis]] on people and cultures by studying their artwork, using it to identify weaknesses in their thinking or perception patterns, and then exploiting said weaknesses in devastating ways. The trilogy, as implied by its name, concerns the adventures of the New Republic, particularly Luke, Han and Leia, to deal with Thrawn's plans, leadership and genius.



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Given the BigBad is an alien, this trilogy introduced a slightly more human Galactic Empire -- still certainly villainous, but no longer a ZeroPercentApprovalRating organization. In movie terms, it is somewhat closer to Admiral Piett and Captain Needa than Darth Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin. Thrawn himself (the aforementioned alien BigBad) was certainly a MagnificentBastard of the highest caliber, one whom the reader did not hesitate in respecting. The trilogy also reflected the RealLife movement into the Information Age, with Thrawn (and Karrde opposite him) being able to [[HyperAwareness connect esoteric and obscure bits of data together into a much larger picture]]. Thrawn in particular was able to practice an [[SherlockScan almost obscene version of psychoanalysis]] on people and cultures by studying their artwork, using it to identify weaknesses in their thinking or perception patterns, and then exploiting said weaknesses in devastating ways. The trilogy, as implied by its name, concerns the adventures of the New Republic, particularly Luke, Han and Leia, to deal with Thrawn's plans, leadership and genius.

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Given the BigBad is an alien, this trilogy introduced a slightly more human Galactic Empire -- still certainly villainous, but no longer a ZeroPercentApprovalRating organization. In movie terms, it is somewhat closer to Admiral Piett and Captain Needa than Darth Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin. Thrawn himself (the aforementioned alien BigBad) was certainly a MagnificentBastard [[TheChessmaster chessmaster]] of the highest caliber, one whom the reader did not hesitate in respecting. The trilogy also reflected the RealLife movement into the Information Age, with Thrawn (and Karrde opposite him) being able to [[HyperAwareness connect esoteric and obscure bits of data together into a much larger picture]]. Thrawn in particular was able to practice an [[SherlockScan almost obscene version of psychoanalysis]] on people and cultures by studying their artwork, using it to identify weaknesses in their thinking or perception patterns, and then exploiting said weaknesses in devastating ways. The trilogy, as implied by its name, concerns the adventures of the New Republic, particularly Luke, Han and Leia, to deal with Thrawn's plans, leadership and genius.
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[[caption-width-right:350:The covers for this trilogy were designed by the same man who did the posters for the Original Trilogy. [[DoingItForTheArt Gotta love that]].]]

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* SpannerInTheWorks: In ''The Last Command'', the New Republic tries a double bluff to make the Empire think they're going after the crystal gravfield trap at Tangrene when they're actually going after the one at Bilbringi. Thrawn sees through it, and ''would'' have beat the Republic forces at Bilbringi... except the Republic accidentally succeeded in fooling ''Karrde's Smugglers' Alliance'', who think because the Republic is going to Tangrene, they can try for the one at Bilbringi, and they end up in a position where they can open up a second front in the battle.

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* SpannerInTheWorks: In ''The Last Command'', the New Republic tries a double bluff to make the Empire think they're going after the crystal gravfield trap at Tangrene when they're actually going after the one at Bilbringi. Thrawn sees through it, and ''would'' have beat the Republic forces at Bilbringi... except the Republic accidentally succeeded in fooling ''Karrde's Smugglers' Alliance'', who think because the Republic is going to Tangrene, they can try for the one at Bilbringi, Bilbringi (as Karrde points out, if the Republic is willing to stage a major military operation to capture a crystal gravfield trap, they'd surely also be willing to ''buy'' one for a huge pile of credits), and they end up in a position where they can open up a second front in the battle.



* TooCleverByHalf: Thrawn slips into this at times. Several of his mistakes actually come from assuming his enemies are smarter than they are, and that they are making moves against him that in reality they didn't even think of. Possibly the best example is when he concludes that Leia took the ''Millenium Falcon'' to Endor in search of something from the wreckage of the second Death Star for information that she believes the Emperor may have had with him when he died, like the location of the Mount Tantiss cloning facility. Leia and the New Republic had no idea Mount Tantiss even existed, let alone that it was critical to Thrawn's plans and that they really should be looking for it. In ''The Last Command'', Wedge subtly lampshades this by noting that overestimating your opponents can be just as dangerous as underestimating them, and Thrawn's ultimate downfall is basically the result of several unrelated over- and underestimations of his opponents all coming to a head simultaneously.

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* TooCleverByHalf: Thrawn slips into this at times. Several of his mistakes actually come from assuming his enemies are smarter than they are, and that they are making moves against him that in reality they didn't even think of. Possibly the best example is when he concludes that Leia took the ''Millenium Falcon'' to Endor in search of something from the wreckage of the second Death Star for information that she believes the Emperor may have had with him when he died, like the location of the Mount Tantiss cloning facility. Leia and the New Republic had no idea Mount Tantiss even existed, let alone that it was critical to Thrawn's plans and that they really should be looking for it. She simply chose Endor as a rendezvous point because it's a remote yet well-known location. In ''The Last Command'', Wedge subtly lampshades this by noting that overestimating your opponents can be just as dangerous as underestimating them, and Thrawn's ultimate downfall is basically the result of several unrelated over- and underestimations of his opponents all coming to a head simultaneously.
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: What happened to the ''Katana'' fleet?
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* EloquentInMyNativeTongue: [[Main/InvertedTrope Inverted]] when the Wookie ambassador has a speech impediment that keeps him from speaking the native Wookie language, but allows him to speak Galactic Basic. He notes that Chewbacca is this trope played straight.
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* HilariousInHindsight:
** [[MemeticMutation Internet memes]] were still a few years away from developing, but upon running into a huge fleet of warships set in ambush by Thrawn, Admiral Ackbar observes that "[[CaptainObvious it appears to be a trap]]". And again, in the first book, Han says his smuggler contacts are unwilling to work for the New Republic because they suspect a trap. Admiral Ackbar, on the New Republic's ruling council, wryly says "Because of me, no doubt." [[MakesSenseInContext It makes sense in-universe]], since Ackbar's species has gotten a reputation for being hard on smugglers.
** Early in the second book, Luke's looking through Imperial records and annoyed at how they, and the Old Republic before them, kept on setting up a new YearZero, hoping the New Republic wouldn't do anything like that. They ultimately did, with the Battle of Yavin (that is, the original movie) being classified in-universe and out as the new YearZero. Prior to this in-universe change, the out-of-universe YearZero was the Battle of Endor (that is, the third movie); novels would have a note at the beginning of how many years after Endor they took place. This made sense because prior to the prequel movies, almost all EU stories were post-Endor.
** Also this bit in book 3, in light of the rocket boosters Artoo used in ''Attack of the Clones'':
--->'''Threepio:''' Excuse me, sir, does [having to go on foot] also apply to Artoo and me?\\
'''Han:''' Unless you've learned how to fly.
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This trilogy was one of the cornerstones of the now non-canon ''Legends'', being the first major work set after ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' (five years after to be exact), the first truly popular entry of the franchise since ''Return of the Jedi'', and serving as the introduction of some of the most beloved figures in ''Legends'' canon, like [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral Grand Admiral]] [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mitth%27raw%27nuruodo Thrawn]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade_Skywalker Mara Jade]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon Gilad Pellaeon]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde Talon Karrde]]. Back before [[Film/TheForceAwakens the]] [[Film/TheLastJedi Sequel]] [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Trilogy]] was made, many fans considered these stories to be the closest thing to an ''Episode VII'', ''Episode VIII'', and ''Episode IX'' that they would ever get. Years later, these stories are still regarded highly despite showing their age in some places.

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This trilogy was one of the cornerstones of the now non-canon AlternateContinuity ''Legends'', being the first major work set after ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' (five years after to be exact), the first truly popular entry of the franchise since ''Return of the Jedi'', and serving as the introduction of some of the most beloved figures in ''Legends'' canon, like [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral Grand Admiral]] [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mitth%27raw%27nuruodo Thrawn]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade_Skywalker Mara Jade]], [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gilad_Pellaeon Gilad Pellaeon]] and [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talon_Karrde Talon Karrde]]. Back before [[Film/TheForceAwakens the]] [[Film/TheLastJedi Sequel]] [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Trilogy]] was made, many fans considered these stories to be the closest thing to an ''Episode VII'', ''Episode VIII'', and ''Episode IX'' that they would ever get. Years later, these stories are still regarded highly despite showing their age in some places.
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* GovernmentExploitedCrisis: During the Clone Wars, a battle took place over the planet Honoghr and a Lucrehulk-class core ship was shot down. The ship was carrying a cargo of deadly toxins that proceeded to contaminate the planet. The Republic took great interest in the effects of the toxins and ignored the plight of the native Noghri. Darth Vader arrived some months after the war ended and the Republic became the Empire and was impressed enough with the Noghri's fighting prowess that he agreed to have the Empire restore Honoghr in return for their service. Naturally, the Empire instead kept the planet in a state of barely survivable in order to keep the Noghri indebted to it.
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* BodyguardLegacy: The Noghri serve the Galactic Empire as OverTheTopSecret commandos and bodyguards to repay Darth Vader for saving them from extinction after a Clone Wars-era starship crash poisoned their homeworld Honoghr's environment. Vader later gave the Noghris' reins over to Grand Admiral Thrawn. [[spoiler:After Leia Organa Solo, whom a Noghri recognized by her scent as Vader's daughter, proves that the Empire has only been ''pretending'' to decontaminate the planet, they switch their allegiance to her and her brother Luke.]]
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* NoPronunciationGuide: Jorus and Joruus C'baoth. "Jorus" is pretty easy, simply "Jor-us." "Joruus" has alternately been pronounced "Jor-oos" and "Jor-oo-us." "C'baoth" has alternately been pronounced "Sah-bowth" and "Sah-bay-oth" (according to Zahn, the latter is correct). To a lesser extent, Karrde's smuggler aquaintance Mazzic, alternately pronounced "Mah-zeek" and "Mah-zik."
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** Thrawn gleans details about a species' psychology from the arts of work they create, and even about an individual's psychology from the works of art they collect, and uses this knowledge to discern weaknesses and predict behaviors with uncanny accuracy.

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** Thrawn gleans details about a species' psychology from the arts works of work art they create, and even about an individual's psychology from the works of art they collect, and uses this knowledge to discern weaknesses and predict behaviors with uncanny accuracy.
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* SwordsToPlowshares: Since the New Republic is not engaged in much active combat, and trade is struggling, they take several dozen capital ships, remove a bunch of equipment to make more space, and use them to haul cargo. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, since it wouldn't be hard to convert them back, they're a prime target for theft by the ascendant Grand Admiral Thrawn.]]
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* ISurrenderSuckers: Prompted by a Force suggestion from Mara, Leia surrenders to the Imperial commandos attempting to kidnap her and the twins early in ''The Last Command''. Once the shooting stops, Mara is able to come in behind the commandos and gun them down without getting herself caught in the crossfire.

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* ISurrenderSuckers: Prompted by a Force suggestion from Mara, Leia surrenders to the Imperial commandos attempting to kidnap her and the twins early in ''The Last Command''. Once the shooting stops, Mara is able to come in behind the commandos and gun them down without getting herself caught in the crossfire. In fairness, Leia herself didn't attack them; if they didn't watch their backs, that's their own mistake.

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