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Okay, this happened in GX, I know, but it pertains to Yugi and the end of Yu-Gi-Oh!, so I figured it fit here better: It's blatantly hinted at that "Yugi" in GX looks like a lot like Atem, both from the time Judai got Winged Kuriboh and when he challenged Judai to a duel in that... alternate world/time/whatever the hell it was. But I swear I saw Yugi looking and sounding a lot like he did in Yu-Gi-Oh when he was on the boat to give Duel Academy his deck–you know, during that arc with that one kid on a serious mind-trip thinking he was "Yugi"/Atem. So, what the hell? Did the anime team just screw up, or was that a hint at Atem having come back at some point?
They actually hid Yugi's face in the first episode so people wouldn't mistake him for Atem: apparently they couldn't figure out how to make Yugi look older without making him look like Atem. The Japanese anime doesn't have that problem, as grown-up Yugi still uses 'boku' instead of Atem's 'ore' when he speaks: it's easy to tell them apart by voice.
Hard to tell- he doesn't seem to be wearing the Puzzle in the opening of GX, but he is when he duels with Jaden/Judai. It seems they later retconned so that Atem left sometime after the end of GX.
Why is it in the English dub, the events of Ancient Egypt took place 5000 years ago, instead of 3000? Was it an actual accident on the part of the translators, or is there a reason they changed the years?
I'm no expert on Japanese, but I have long suspected it was for similar reasons as why the infamous "over 9000" line is 9000 in English, but 8000 in the original version: 5000 matches up with the speaking animations better than 3000.
I personally suspect that it's because 5000 years ago would be 3000 BC.
According to Wikipedia, there was a pharaoh called Seth-Peribsen that ruled in the 2nd dynasty, which started around 2890, approximately 5000 years before the events of the current series (give or take a couple hundred years). Translation Correction, maybe?
5000 just sounds cooler.
Why does Mokuba call Seto "Kaiba" in the translated manga? I don't know if it's JUST the official version, but it's pretty awkward to call your older brother by your shared last name.
I think at one point he calls "Kaiba" Seto in the anime.
I think it's because using your surname is more respectful, and Mokuba has a lot of respect for his big brother. Maybe? Also, if you think about it, Seto earned that name. He might have hated his adoptive father, but he's proud of his company and he's proud of the work he's done with it. If you look at it that way, "Kaiba" would be like a badge of honour.
Actually in Japan you never call anyone who shares your family name by it. (don't know if it applies to people who have the same last name as you but are too distant to be part of your family)
Well, I understand that, but it's still... awkward I guess. Maybe it translates better over in Japan because of the differences in languages? Personally, I like how the anime did it with the whole "Nii-sama" thing.
It was a mistranslation by Viz. Mokuba Kaiba never calls his brother "Kaiba", because frankly, that's extremely silly.
What the hell is Zorc's motivation in the English dub?! I get why he plans on destroying the world in the sub since he was created from the Items, and would have represented the hatred of the sacrificed criminals on the rest of the world. But 4Kids Zorc is portrayed as far older, and creator of the Shadow Realm. Why couldn't they tie in the sacrifice (using souls instead of killing) with Zorc's destructive nature? Bakura was the best villain of the show, yet his English version Man Behind the Man was just some one-dimensional demon thing.
That's why total destruction of everything isn't his motivation in the English dub. He wants to dominate the world, to become its new god, which is why he was recruiting followers. The present-day world starts getting reformed into the future of the nightmare world that Zorc envisioned as per the timeline being altered.
Not so much a question as something of note; why do most villains after Pegasus merge with their monster at the end? You've got Noah and Shinato, Yami Marik and The Winged Dragon of Ra, Dartz with Leviathan, and Yami Bakura with Zorc.
Because it's an easy way to kill the character permanently without involving the disturbing mind crush (Marik, Dartz, Bakura, almost Noah until he bullshits his way out of the rules). That, and by law all anime villains are required to have a One-Winged Angel form — Relinquished's eye was close enough to allow Pegasus a pass.
Hell, even Relinquished has Thousand Eyes Restrict.
There's one thing that both confuses me and bugs the crap out of me. Some people (particularly shippers) seem to treat Yami and Atem as if they are two different people. As far as I can tell, they're the same person and the only significant difference is Yami can't remember his past or his name which is part of why he doesn't go by his real name in the series. So either I missed some big announcement in the manga/anime that officially declared them as being two separate people, or I just can't figure out what strange logic people are using to justify that.
Well, Yami = Atem + 3000/5000 years in a puzzle, missing a part of his soul, which is probably the reason why he was a sadist on a killing spree in the beginning + months of bonding with Yugi and learning from him - memories of his past life. That kind of justifies the notion that they're different. They're the same in general, but not in particular. If this makes sense.
So Yami is basically a future Atem who's gone through some rough things the other/younger has yet to experience?
Yami Yugi and Atem are the same person. The only time when you can consider them to be different is in the final arc when he's simultaneously fighting Yami Bakura in the present and the past.
Well, yes, in this arc, they were the same person, because Yami awoke in Atem's body, or rather his former body, with his present memories. And then there was the Yami playing with Yami Bakura. However, my point still stands. Atem = Yami - 3000/5000 years in a puzzle - friendship with yugi + a complete soul. They are the same person, but still different. You and your five-year-old self are also the same person, but still not quite the same.
I can see how some people would interpret his being in two places at once as meaning there's two separate people, but although you and your five-year-old self are not exactly the same, are you so different that you go by a completely different name when you grow up?
As for the name Yami, that was only in the 4kids version, and fans picked it up because it's an okay name for the spirit in fanfiction. It's just easier to write than "The pharaoh" or "Mou hitori no boku" or "other me". And by the time his real name was revealed, people had gotten used to using Yami. I think that from time to time, people use Atem in fanfiction that is set after the series finale, but it's quite rare. Sorry, I feel like I'm really missing the point in this discussion.
The original point was that it bugged me to see some fans absolutely insist that there is no way in the world that Yami = Atem when I've never seen any official canon declaration that says "Yes, they are two separate people, not two versions of the same person." The first time I saw that there's an official shipping threesome of Atem x Yugi x Yami made me do a doubletake... because if Yami and Atem are the same person... isn't that kind of pairing impossible (or at least very tricky) to pull off?
Oh, I see. Sorry for arguing against you all the time. As for this seemingly impossible pairing, I have to admit that I'm guilty of liking Yami Bakura x Thief King Bakura, and Seto x Priest Set. I know, it's impossible (just as impossible as finding good fic) but I can definitely see the appeal. However, it's important for me to keep up a certain narcissistic self-cest element. (My favourite fics for these pairings are both takes on the Narcissus tale; the present incarnations see their past selves in mirrors. That's the only way it works for me. I'm not very fond of time travelling fics, and I can't even imagine fics that try to pull off these pairings without even bothering with such things and completely leaving the self-cest element out.)
Well, if your 15-year-old self and 30-year-old self were in the same room, you probably wouldn't know that they're the same person, personality-wise.
I always thought that Atem = Yami + Yuugi; that is to say, Yami is but half of the person once known as Atem, the half that was sealed inside the puzzle while the other half (Yuugi) went on to reincarnate for millennia until he found the puzzle and became 'whole' again. So yeah, don't know how that works either.
As murky as the Yu-Gi-Oh reincarnation system is, how disparate the various different individuals who are also sort of the same individual are is up to interpretation, a factor people in the fandom have taken Up to Eleven. (It does make a convenient handwaving excuse.) BUT as far as canon is concerned, it's pretty definitive that Atem and Yami Yuugi are meant to be the same person - Yami's "My name is Atem!" declaration before walking out can be considered confirmation.
No matter how different the same person may be at two points in his/her own timeline, personality-wise or otherwise, he/she is still the same person, philosophical semantics notwithstanding. What most people in this debate are ignoring is that this is about shipping; i.e., it's not about "if your 15-year-old self and your 30-year-old self were in the same room would you recognize them as the same person personality-wise?" so much as "if your 15-year-old self and your 30-year-old self were in the same room would it be weird for them to hook up or get into a relationship with each other and thus themselves (other than ephebophilia)?"
More meta, but here goes: Duelist Kingdom; 4Kids adds a subplot and cuts out repetition, replacing excess material with foreshadowing. Battle City, 4Kids goes the opposite direction; it cuts out a subplot and adds repetition rather than minor details in characters' dialogue. What exactly happened to cause this reversal in dubbing?
Could you give some specific examples?
Certainly; in Duelist Kingdom, after Yugi loses to Kaiba, he realizes Yami Yugi's recklessness that could put other people in danger. The difference is in the focus of the character development—the Japanese version focuses on Yami, while making Yugi look two-dimensional. The English has more development for them both as they learn from each other and the like. And the reduction of filler; I think of one particular voiceover by Pegasus about how the duel he's watching relates to the tragedy of his life. Foreshadowing in the English version. In the Japanese version, it's just something repeated about the duel. But in Battle City, the English version cuts out the True Duelist subplot—what it means to be one, as well as adding a relationship between Joey and Yugi. Instead, it replaces it with other generic dueling stuff, which leads to adjusting dialogue so it's overly repeated rather than a focus on said subplot.
I actually agree with you when it comes to your Duelist Kingdom example. The dub version makes far more sense than the Japanese. In the Japanese version it follows more closely with the manga, where he already knew about Yami's existence thanks to the first seven volumes. But that duel with Kaiba was the first time in both anime versions that he truly realized he wasn't alone in his own body. And Yami had basically just tried to kill someone in a duel, leading to an understandable BSOD in the dub, but it's more of a 'meh, whatever' thing in the Japanese?! It has always deeply disturbed me that Japanese Yugi is so casual about Yami's actions, given the ommision of the events from the first seven manga volumes. As for the omission of the True Duelist subplot, I honestly never noticed it was missing. But then I did watch the dub as a kid before I even knew the manga existed, so I wasn't really looking for the subplot.
In the Japanese anime version of Duelist Kingdom, Yugi isn't actually upset about Yami trying to kill Kaiba. He's upset at himself: Yugi thinks he's too much of a coward to put anybody's life on the line for his goals. He doesn't seem to think he can successfully retrieve Grandpa's soul if he can't be as tough and ruthless as Yami or Kaiba. That's not exactly the most kiddie-friendly message.
According to what I've heard, in the Manga, there is no Doma arc, it goes straight from Battle City to Kaiba Corp Grand Prix. So, Kaiba organised two contests back to back? Both directly after Duelist Kingdom?
There was no Kaiba Corp Grand Prix in the manga. It just goes straight to the Millennium Arc after Battle City.
Everyone's asked it, but it was never answered — why the hell do they never go to the police?
To be fair, Police would be of any REAL help only in the Kaiba Corp Grand Prix, though there are moments in the first seven volumes where this could apply, and Zigfied and Death-T Kaiba are smart enough to get rid of the police. In the rest of the series, though, WHAT THE HELL ARE THE POLICE GOING TO DO AGAINST ANCIENT EGYPTIAN MAGIC THAT COULD PROBABLY KILL THEM?!? And before anyone says the magic only works in the card game, I'd like to point your attention to the laser beam battle between Bakura and Pegasus.
Not exactly cops, but in chapter 8 of the manga, the shop owner loses Yami Yugi's/Atem's game and gets stung by his own poisoned scorpion. When Yugi goes back to talk to Jounouchi, he tells Jounouchi(in the English translation of the manga at least) that when he (Yugi) woke up the sneakers were "in his hands and the shop owner was being taken to the hospital" for the poisoning. Someone at least called the paramedics then. Since there was no one else in the shop (the owner said it was closed when Yami Yugi/Atem came in) and Yugi woke to find the paramedics already there, it seems like Yami Yugi/Atem was actually the one to make the call.
Paramedics are also called to take Yugi's grandpa to the hospital after Kaiba's duel holograms give him a heart attack. Again, not cops but it is some sort of professional help called in.
Also, causing a heart attack isn't illegal provided it was unintentional (and even if it were intentional, you'd have to prove it). Ditto the scorpion—that would probably have been ruled an accident. Part of proving something is explaining how it happened.
The "reasonable man" defense would probably apply if they tried to prosecute Kaiba for manslaughter for forcing Grandpa to duel with holograms. A reasonable man would not figure that a man whose livelihood involved selling Duel Monsters cards would have a heart attack when presented with holograms of the images, especially since Kaiba would certainly have explained the Duel Ring's function and Grandpa would therefore have been expecting them. Since Kaiba could not have expected a heart attack to result from exposing Grandpa to the Duel Ring, there was no intent, and since the heart attack did not result from any flaw of the Duel Ring, Kaibacorp would not be liable for a product safety lawsuit, either. On the other hand there are the small matters of assault, kidnapping, and unlawful detention, not to mention wrongful death.
They did in the DOMA arc. The cops were brainwashed at this point.
Also, during DOMA, the US Navy shows up and says that Yugi, Kaiba and Joey are their only hope, because they are utterly powerless against what's going down, and they are stunned that this is related to a card game.
In his flashback, Rex says he and Weevil could just demand people give them their strongest cards, and they'd feel honoured to give them. The card they got was Dark Ruler Ha Des. Dark Ruler is singularly stronger than any card either of them played (save PU Great Moth and Great Moth), with additional side effects to boost other cards, back in the days before sacrifices. Why did neither of them play this card, how did the kid get this card, and why would he look up to them if he could kick the crap out of both easily?
First, neither ran fiends (Weevil ran insects, Rex ran dinosaurs), and they probably kept the card as trade bait. (Not to mention that Dark Ruler Ha Des cannot be revived from the grave.) Second, he probably respected them before their reputations took a nosedive.
And there's the issue that Dark Ruler Ha Des might not have the same effect in-universe as it does in our TCG.
No, it did. Bakura ran it back in Battle City, and it had the exact same effects.
Why does the anime keep inventing dozens of BS cards (like Berzerker Soul), when there are plenty of legitimate ways to win a duel?
For those specific situations? Let's play Dueling Puzzles. Replicate the situation, your opponent has a monster with 2600 attack, you have a monster with 2700 attack rendered unable to attack via a spell card, as well as costing you 500 life points per turn. You're on 700 life points, he's on 3900. You have a card set, he has a card set, you have a 4-card hand. Win in one turn (No Exodia).
De-Spell to destroy Insect Barrier, then Brain Control Weevil's monster. And that's without using a single card that Yugi hadn't used before in another duel. But then we wouldn't have "DURO! MONSTA KADO!"
Rule of Cool, Rule of Drama... I know it comes off as an Ass Pull most of the times, but then again, isn't it a bit more exciting to see the character cornered, and then he suddenly plays an amazing card that turns things around, while the opponent can only helplessly stare?
No. That's called an Ass Pull and is generally thought of to be bad.
This only explains this particular duel, but the point here was the overkill. It was necessary to have a card that would 'allow' Atem to continue attacking even after he had already won to show how pissed he was and how his personality had been affected without his Morality Pet.
Why the heck did 4kids edit the card description text out of the cards? I mean, in dub canon, every player has to have the exact effects and conditions of at least 40 cards memorized cold before they play *any* card games with them. It makes the shouting out descriptions make a lot more sense, but wouldn't that be a really counterintuative way to market a game? Also, given the way that this game seems to work, you'd have to have the effects of any cards you wanted to grab from your opponent memorized too. It seems like this'd lead to major abuse of the system, entirely apart from being stupid.
Quite simply, it cuts down on the costs of other language adaptions. Editing card text would not only raise production costs for 4kids, but for the companies in other countries doing the Spanish, French, Italian, etc. dubs. It would also increase the amount of time to get episodes ready for air, which could result in the anime falling victim to schedule slippage and possibly cancellation. It was feasible for the Pyramid of Light movie, which didn't have to meet a specific deadline, but generally they have to have a certain amount of episodes done in a certain amount of time to fit their weekly air schedule.
It's also about the Segregated Commercial trope; it's even mentioned on the text for that page that they can't show the characters using real cards from the game, because that's advertising, whereas Japan doesn't have the laws forbidding it. The movie, of course, didn't have that problem, since it's not regulated by TV laws. Seemingly, the players in the dub are playing with the English-language version of the cards — though some of them with different effects than in the TCG/OCG — since they clearly know each of their own cards and how they work.
Bakura's voice. Or more specifically, voice-actor. Why is it a female in the Japanese version? I like the Japanese voice jsut fine, but it's an odd choice seeing as he's a teenage boy, and in Season Zero he's voiced by a guy (and in every dub of the second series, he's voiced by a guy). So, what gives? Why the odd choice for voice-actor?
How is it odd? There are a lot of cases where women voice young boys because a man's voice happens to be too deep. Tommy Pickles of the Rugrats and All Grown Up, anyone? Ash Ketchum from the Pokemon anime (both Japanese and English versions, the former being the same voice actor as Bakura)?
How much in-universe time does the series take up? The events of Battle City all the way through the Memory World clearly come right after one another (with a few days' separation in between each), since Yugi's goal once he has the God Cards is to get right to the museum. None of the major arcs seem to take more than a week. Specifically, the first part of Battle City and the entire KC Grand Championship seem to have been one really long day of dueling time with little break. The Virtual World arc is implied to take only a few hours in the real world, hence Yami Marik wandering around and not using the time to find Odion, and the last round of the Battle City Finals is all on one day. The DOMA arc is probably the longest, since they're traveling to different places and there is some actual passage of days, but still didn't seem to last too long. However, right before the events of the Memory World arc, Tea in the dub says that they've had "four years" of adventures together, and in the final battle Ishizu mentions that she hasn't used her necklace to make a prediction "in years" since giving it to Yugi. So what gives? Did they take breaks after Duelist Kingdom and Battle City to go to school for a year? Or was the dub team trying to avert Comic-Book Time? Either way, nobody's aged a bit in four years, nor seems to have graduated from high school (which they already attended before meeting in the anime and which is only three years long in Japan). Personally, I think it's only taken a few months at most, but we aren't really told how long each arc is, are we?
In the manga, from the time Yugi completes the Puzzle up until the end of Duelist Kingdom, one year passes. During the Dungeon Dice arc, Honda/Tristan mentions that they are in their second year and are lucky to be in the same class again. Battle City lasts a couple of days.
This overlaps with the games, but Yu-Gi-Oh!: Nightmare Troubadour covers the anime up to the end of Battle City (the final duel taking place against Yami Marik). The opponents in the game use the same cards that they are seen to use in the anime, plus a few extras to fill out their decks. Two of the opponents are Lumis and Umbra (or Hikari no Kamen and Yami no Kamen in Japanese). In their tag-team duel with Yami Yugi and Seto Kaiba in the anime, they reveal their strongest card, Masked Beast Des Gardius — yet for some reason, this card doesn't exist in the game, even though it's a real card (i.e., not an anime-exclusive one) that was shown in the part of the anime that the game covers. What's the deal with that? The Mask of Remnants (a card that is used in combination with Masked Beast Des Gardius) is also conspicuously absent from the game.
Okay, the translation of card names is something that really bothers me. One of the major ones is changing "Death" to "Des" in any card that includes the word in its name (such as Des Kangaroo, for instance). I can understand maybe wanting to Never Say "Die", but "Des" is not a real word. Couldn't they have just used something else entirely? Second, "Buster Rancher" instead of "Buster Launcher". Boy, I really hope someone got fired for that blunder. (Unless that was another clumsy attempt at censorship, but why on Earth would the word "launcher" be offensive?). Third, "Revival Slime" to "Revival Jam". Okay... Uh... What? Does that blue amorphous blob monster seriously look like jam to you, translators? And the related changes of "Slime Zōshokuro" to "Jam Breeding Machine" and "Defend Slime" to "Jam Defender" - what makes it ridiculous is that they still call the things that Jam Breeding Machine produces "SLIME Tokens". Don't you mean "Jam Tokens"?.
Why didn't they give Jonouchi's character arc in the 'Battle Kingdom' storyline to Anzu? She's already shown as being desperate for money to go to dance in America (this being a plot point in several books) to the point at which she took humiliating jobs, and was recently fired from her last job at Kaiba's Amusement Park of Doom, so having her go to the tournament to duel and claim the prize would have been a lot more natural than Joey revealing a sick sister he's apparently had all along.
Seems like an unfortunate consequence of being The Chick. At that point, Anzu had only ever been a chronic damsel in distress and an occasional love interest — never the focus of her own story. Takahashi clearly just wasn't interested in changing her role or giving her more development. Jonouchi, on the other hand, had long, long, long been established as our secondary main character, so he needed a purpose and a quest of his own, so that's where the writer's efforts were focused.
Ok, it's common a reincarnated person has the same face as his past life, but how could Seto's past life have the same name as him? And Seto seems to be a very Japanese name for an ancient Egyptian priest.
Actually, Seto's past self was called "Set", I believe, which was the name of one of the Egyptian gods, so it's not Japanese in origin.
How in the hell could the puzzle take eight years to solve? It had maybe 23 pieces - even if you didn't know what it looked like, simple trial and error would mean the puzzle would take a month at maximum. Did he just decide to work on it one day a year?
It was a magic puzzle. Its shadow magic clouded the mind of any who tried to solve it until the time was right and the one trying to solve it was in the proper mindset with the proper desires in his heart and/or until the Chosen One tried to solve it at the Chosen Time or something. It's not entirely clear, but the point is that it's all but certain that he solved the puzzle on the puzzle's terms, not his. Note how he comments on how easy it suddenly is when he does start solving it.
In the manga, Duke Devlin tries to piece together the broken Millennium Puzzle—he thinks it's easy, and he manages to piece it together halfway through, before being twisted by its shadows and briefly trapped in an illusion.
Actually Duke just flat out failed, it was his dad who got the mystic psycho illusion treatment for trying to put the puzzle together. And while Duke's dad was trying to put it together, Yugi weakly stood up (he'd just been choked and thrown against a wall by Duke's dad) and told him "Stop... you'll make... the puzzle angry..." Also, in the manga, when Yami is confronted by Shadi in volume 3, Shadi tells him that it was no coincidence that Yugi solved the Millennium Puzzle... the puzzle chose Yugi. Somehow, the events of the first chapter convinced the puzzle to let itself be solved by Yugi. I personally think it was the moment where Yugi was getting beaten by Ushio, and his thoughts revealed that the 'wish' he made on the puzzle was for "friends who could count on him, no matter what" instead of something selfish like money or popularity or power.
Some puzzles are not just a matter of placing each of its pieces on top of each other. The millennium puzzle probably required complex rearrangement of the pieces around and through each other as it took shape.
I vaguely remember Yugi saying something along the lines of "If I rotate this piece clockwise 45 degrees..." when solving the puzzle (I think it was in the manga), so yeah, the puzzle is probably more complex than it looks.
Also, he didn't know what it was supposed to look like at the end.
Is there any particular reason Yami can't create his own Shadow Game before Bakura, Marik, Pegasus, etc. create theirs? I assume the rules say that anyone with a Millennium Item can turn a duel into a Shadow Game so long as the rules are fair to both players. And why would one Shadow Game overwrite another?
Yami kept on pumping out Shadow Games against random people in Season Zero (the Toei anime before the one more widely known), but he stops doing this when the 'real' Yu-Gi-Oh anime starts. In that anime, his sadism magically vanishes, and seeing as the stakes are quite high in Shadow Games, he really doesn't have a reason to.
Yugi kind of pulled the leash on Yami after killing too many people. He grew a pair, slapped him on the nose and told him No.
Who says Shadow Games have to be sadistic? If you know your opponent will invoke a "loser dies/is banished to the Shadow Realm" Shadow Game, why not invoke your own and make it a bit less painful? Keep the consequences of losing, but nothing else.
I'm pretty sure that the entire idea around Shadow Games is that they're sadistic. In order for a Shadow Game to be played I believe players have to pay up something dear to them. If a bet placed in a Shadow Game would be something like loads of cash or anything, they could just as easily play a normal game with the same rules.
Also, in the manga, he still continues to mind crush people, and he plays a bunch of Shadow Games during the Duelist Kingdom arc. Though mind crushing kinda exists in the anime, it's quite toned down.
As previously stated, in the manga Yami Yuugi is quite fond of mindfucking people, but that diminishes as he spends more time with Yuugi. So, what I think happened is that Yami still has the ability to create Shadow Games, but he chooses not to use it because either Yuugi asked him to stop it (the consequences are sometimes worse than death, after all, and Yuugi was probably horrified off-screen when he found out what happened to Yami's previous victims), or because Yami doesn't want to endanger Yuugi, seeing as how the latter almost died when they dueled against Pegasus and was also used as a sacrifice in their duel against Marik.
Don't be so sure about Yuugi being horrified. This is manga-only, but anybody remember those collectable fighter monsters that the bully was beating everyone up for? It's pretty early in the series, and before this there's effectively no evidence to suggest that Yuugi knows that the other Yuugi exists other than that weird series of blackouts - which says nothing. However, in this arc, after he gets his toy stolen, he asks a classmate if he can borrow his, and goes looking for a fight. Effectively he's asking the other Yuugi to come out and lay the smackdown out on the bully, and has noticed that Bad Things happen to people a lot of the time in these situations.
Actually, that is in volume 6 of the manga, and it is in volumes 4-5 during the DEATH-T arc that Yuugi admits to Jounouchi and Anzu that he suspects the existence of his other self/the Pharaoh's spiritnote Shadi actually clues Yuugi in as early as the last chapters of volume 2, telling Yuugi to "discover your other self". Also, at the end of the DEATH-T arc Yuugi remarks that, for once, he can remember everything that happened. So, by the time the Monster Fighter chapters happen, Yuugi is having fewer blackouts and seems to have some idea of what his other self/the Pharaoh's spirit is capable of. In fact, several chapters in volume 6 almost give the feeling that Yuugi is indirectly asking his other self/the Pharaoh's spirit for help when he finds himself in over his head, both as a demonstration of the growing trust between them and as Yuugi's fulfillment of his declaration in volume 5 that he "won't be afraid of the Other Me anymore."
To go further into detail, he still dishes out Penalty Games in Duelist Kingdom that are as equally "sadistic" as the first seven volumes of the manga, but stops after Pegasus says that the Millennium Puzzle has an evil will because if he were to continue to do so he would prove Pegasus's words correct. Most of the confusion regarding the shift between the personalities of early Dark Yugi and the one seen in the second series anime is the result of Adaptation Decay and Fan Dumb regarding the supposed connection between the Toei series and Duel Monsters series. Unfortunately, a lot of people have only seen the anime and never gave the manga a chance, which is why confusion like this occurs.
Because Shadow Games are generally equal in terms of punishment for losing, Yami Yugi probably figured he could just win the Shadow Game his opponent created, rather than wasting any of his own magic or effort summoning his own Shadow Game.
That's the whole problem, they're not equal, otherwise why would his opponents always create them? Yugi never WANTS a shadow game made by the enemy, he only wants to not lose one. The best case is that there are no rules to the game itself and the loser loses their soul (something he doesn't want to happen to either player so no victory there). At worst, the enemy puts in some extra rule that ALWAYS affects the protagonist more than himself. Sure a rule like "everyone here goes into their favorite card" is technically fair, but Bakura didn't care about his other half whereas Yugi both does care about his friends and has more friends to lose in the cards. Sure, both Yugi and Pegasus lose energy to maintain monsters but Yugi is younger and less able to handle it. He is ALWAYS at a disadvantage in a shadow game so it often doesn't make sense why he wouldn't create one just to block the enemy from making their own.
Sadistic or not, if you were going to be in a duel with one of those Shadow Game maniacs, wouldn't you prefer a game where the stakes are "a few hours of physical pain" or "develops craving for food you're allergic to" than, say, Marik's "loser has their memory wiped and is banished to an eternal hell"?
I've just realized something strange; before the Ceremonial Battle, Yugi has to put the seven Millennium Items in the stone, and then the Eye of Wdjat would split his soul apart. Question: If Yami's soul was in the Millennium Puzzle, how'd the Eye of Wdjat separate it from Yugi after he took the Puzzle off? Did Yami's soul somehow detach from the Puzzle and get stuck to Yugi?
I've always seen it as this: When the puzzle was in pieces for all those thousands of years, Yami's soul was somehow stuck inside it. Then, when Yugi solved the puzzle for the first time, Yami's soul took up residence in Yugi's own body, and the puzzle's main purpose was to then serve as a conduit through which they could switch who was in control of the body, as is what happens when Yami takes over for a duel or whatever else is going on. That explains why in both the manga and dub, when the puzzle is stolen Yugi has to get it back himself without any help from Yami, because it seems like he can't get Yami's help without the puzzle. Strangely, the Japanese anime makes it seem like they COULD change places, but Yami doesn't want to because he senses Malik watching, although he doesn't know who Malik is at the time. Supporting the manga and dub version of this, however, is a second earlier theft of the puzzle in the manga. One of Yugi's classmates steals the puzzle while Yugi is in gym class, and challenges Yugi to a shadow game of the Chinese game Dragon Cards. Yugi loses, and before the dragon rips out his soul, he grabs the puzzle from his classmate's neck. Then Yami takes over and says "Just in time...if I hadn't snatched the puzzle back my soul would have been entombed in darkness...." This implies that if Yugi hadn't grabbed the puzzle, Yami's soul would have been stuck in Yugi's body but unable to control the body, and therefore unable to challenge the classmate to a rematch and rescue Yugi's soul.
Another question: The first season uses spirit projections in some mental realm to visually represent the discussions between Yugi and Yami. The second season does mostly the same, but it's outside the mental realm and in the real world. Still projections, but still just a way of visualizing. However, one instance during that arc changes this: Yugi, as a projection, picks up the Red Eyes Black Dragon card. After Battle City comes the Doma arc. From there, projections become 'solid' enough to cause physical action; e.g., Yugi pushing away Yami to sacrifice himself or, later, Yami having a spirit-projection duel with a spirit-duel disk against the real Leviathan. The latter is just as weird as it sounds. I could say that the oddities of the Doma arc are from its status as filler, so it doesn't have the same continuity as the manga. But what of Yugi's projection picking up the very real Red Eyes card?
Maybe when Yami and Yugi are seen in spirit form, they've actually become some sort of poltergeist?
And another question, sort of triggered by the Doma arc: simply put, it's been stated multiple times that Yami can't exist without Yugi, yet he does fine without him when Yugi sacrifices himself for the Seal of Orichalcos. Why?
Because Yami's original body is dead, if Yugi actually DIES then so does Yami because he's got nothing to fall back on. Yami Malik himself says so in their duel. He thinks to himself that if he wipes out Yugi's soul in the Shadow Game, it will kill both Yugi and Yami, but if they wipe out his good half, he will still remain. Yami is able to survive because Yugi is simply held captive and his soul is not in his body. Yugi's not actually dead when he gets captured by the Orichalcos.
This actually has precedent in the Manga - see how Yami Yugi was able to beat the Chinese Dragon Cards after Yugi's soul got sucked into a pot.
Although if you mean how Yami is mentally/emotionally unable to exist without Yuugi, then that's true; Word of God once stated that Yami really was insane when he first came out of the puzzle, but changed as time went by and he interacted with Yuugi. So, seeing as how Yami represents the 'darkness' of a whole soul, if you take out the 'light' (Yuugi), then Yami would have no one to balance him anymore, and would most likely be driven insane eventually, as evidenced in Doma in the duel against Weevil.
The Millenium puzzle is supposed to be the most powerful of the Millenium Items. Therefore, the wish made on it, for friends that would never betray him, should not be able to be broken by other Millenium Items. However, Marik uses the rod to force Jounouchi to betray Yugi, and Bakura uses the ring to force Honda/Tristan to.
Friends that would never betray them means just that. The puzzle won't magically keep them loyal, they are loyal because that's the kind of people they are. And they are NOT the same people while possessed.
Okay, this is a minor one, but if Shadi was actually Hassan, then what's up with Shada? Twin brother? Red herring to mislead people about Shadi's true identity?
Might be a red herring, since Shadi says he was killed by Bakura all those years ago, and they carried the same Millenium item, which would lead people to think this was Shadi, but then his true identity as Hasan is revealed later?
The items are supposed to be made of gold, right? This being the case, I have no idea how half of them are even usable, and how Yuugi does not strangle himself and/or break his little neck every time the puzzle swings a little. Gold is heavy; if we're assuming that the items are made of solid gold, than there's probably at least a liter and a half of gold in that puzzle. Given what gold weighs, the minimum is roughly 60lbs/30kg. It is possibly a great deal more! If the puzzle's box is also solid gold, then depending on how much gold you say is in the box and puzzle combined, that could be close to 100lbs of gold, that tiny little Yuugi grabs and hauls around with no visible effort. And you can't tell me that having several pounds of gold hanging out in your eyesocket wouldn't be massively uncomfortable, or even dangerous.
The Millenium puzzle is hollow.
I've actually seen inconsistencies in the various scenes where the puzzle is being put together or taken apart. Sometimes it looks hollownote Ex: when Yuugi first solves it in the manga, other times it seems solidnote Ex: when Yuugi rebuilds the puzzle in that fire between the Duelist Kingdom and Battle City arcs. Also, in the Memory World arc all the Egyptians call it the Millennium Pendant, not the Puzzle, which implies that, hollow or not, the Millennium Puzzle was originally one seamless item that only became broken up into puzzle pieces as a result of Atem sealing himself and Zork inside it.
Forget the items, what about all that gold the Pharaoh runs around wearing during Memory World?? Although, if he's strong enough to run around on a horse and fend off some of Thief Bakura's ghoul squad with a sword while wearing all that, it does explain how he's able to pull off what appears to be an 8-foot vertical leap in the Capsule Monsters spin-off....
Atem is associated with darkness and Horus. Horus was a god of the sky and the sun. Why?
The writers really aren't consistent when they compare Exodia and the 3 gods in terms of size and power. In battle city, the gods are larger than skyscrapers, whereas Exodia is about 3 times the height of a grown man. (We never get a full body shot, but he's probably smaller than the Gods). Isis tells Kaiba that Obelisk is stronger than Exodia. In the Millennium World arc of the manga and the Dawn of the Duel arc of the anime, it's drastically different. In both versions, Zorc dwarfs the gods in size and power. Exodia has now gotten much taller. In the anime, he's about a head taller than Zorc, whereas in the manga Exodia's torso is equal to zorc in height (Exodia's legs are underground, so he's about twice as tall as zorc here.) He's also described as being "just stronger than Zorc" which would mean that Exodia is stronger than all 3 Egyptian Gods combined. In GX, Exodia's height changes between scenes, due to shoddy animation. Exodia is once again called the ultimate creature who is more powerful than that era's gods, the Sacred Beasts. However, Exodia is always defeated because of a flaw in his owner (Adrian's lack of confidence, Shimon's old age, Rare Hunter's stupidity), so it may all depend on who's using him.
On that note, is Exodia supposed to be a good guy or a bad guy? He has the face of a bad guy, but he's associated with Yugi and he fights Zorc in season 5. In GX and Battle City, he is portrayed as evil. Maybe it depends on his user.
Well, he is called 'the Forbidden One'. Using Exodia under any circumstance is probably obscenely dangerous for some reason. Why else would he be the only monster broken into five pieces?
Exodia may be like pre-demonization Seth: immensely powerful and nominally on the good guys' side, but also not a guy you can fully trust and liable to turn on you if you don't show proper respect or provoke him (like Osiris did by seducing Seth's wife. That's why Seth killed and dismembered him and threw the pieces all around Egypt). And given how little Exodia is used in the series and that his cards even got thrown in the sea, he may be pissed.
HOW IN THE NAME OF SLIFER THE SKY DRAGON DO YOU EVEN PROGRAM ALL THIS STUFF INTO A CARD GAME?! To summarize one of Yugi's strategies: "I use my Catapult Turtle to shoot my Dragon Knight at your flying castle in order to break its anti-gravity ring, which will make it fall down and squish your monsters who are trapped by your magical shield thingy." Explaining this to someone who doesn't follow the anime got me a really weird look. I actually had a cousin who tried playing like this (ex. "My Graverobber digs a Trap Hole in front of your Castle Wall, which destabilizes it and makes it fall over and squish your Fierce Knight"), and while it was highly entertaining, we wouldn't let him get away with it because it was utterly ridiculous. It's a card game. You cannot pull that stuff off in a card game.
That was probably why they changed the rules permanently. (see the JBM entry right above.) This is nothing compared to Season 0, though. Kaiba manages to end a game by SPLITTING THE DUEL FIELD. Another person pwns Yugi with Greek mythology-related cards!
...wait, what are you asking? If the card game itself can allow for it, or if the duel terminals and Duel Disks can actually keep up with it? Because between Kaiba's ruthless work ethic and Pegasus's naked insanity, it'd be really easy to believe that The Dev Team Thinks of Everything.
That works for Battle City and beyond, when everyone has access to the holographic technology. Then it would work, if you thought of Duel Monsters as actually being a video game that uses cards as controls. But before Duel Disks are released to the public, it seems like unless there is a duel arena around like the ones at Kaiba Land or in that warehouse where Yugi duels Bandit Keith, players have to play Duel Monsters as just cards on a table like we do in real life, and there's no way all the crazy interactions we see in the anime could be printed on the cards (especially when we actually see the cards and they're normal monsters).
They say at the beginning of the arc that the game will have "a new set of rules" specifically for Duelist Kingdom. It's never stated that the field/environment advantage thing is the only one. Though, this DOES bring into question how Yami knew about these things. Alternatively, Yami is using the Millennium Puzzle's Screw Destiny ability to make it all happen, so basically, he's cheating and 3000-/5000-year-old magic can influence how technology works.
The puzzle does NOT influence duels that way.
I feel like I'm the only one who thinks that Yami's not cheating and simply using the holographic dueling system to his advantage. The way I see it, his "insane" strategies such as the one mentioned regarding the Catapult Turtle and Castle of Dark Illusions being used to crush Panik's trapped monsters are a result of two things. First is that the holograms are at the very least programed to simulate some sort of basic physics, since you can't make the movements of holograms look realistic without physics and that's what Kaiba wanted in the manga: realistic holograms. Also, in real-life physics if you drop something heavy (like a book) on something small (like a bug) it gets smashed and killed. So, it makes sense that if you replace the book with a castle hologram and the bug with a monster hologram and drop the castle on the monster, the computer will probably consider the monster to be squished. The second is that I think it's a subconscious holdover from his days as Pharaoh. Back when he was dealing with the shadow games and the ka instead of cards, the monsters WERE real. And in real life, if you somehow have a castle floating over the enemy and the enemy is trapped with no place to run...then if you make that castle fall, it'll squish your enemies and you'll win the fight. The fact that he's pulling out these strategies that seem so outrageous is, I think, proof that he's actually a much more brilliant strategist than anyone else in the series because everyone else is stuck with the mindset of "cards cannot do that, so I must play like I always have and not try something bold and new." In fact, I felt somewhat disappointed by most of the Battle City rules (although I can see the point of some, such as requiring sacrifices to summon high-level cards) because by having to submit himself to the restrictive Battle City rules, Yami isn't able to play to his full potential. Instead he has to focus more on the "card" aspect and keep himself from even considering some of the tactics he'd otherwise be able to use. Case in point: In Battle City Yami comes close to losing to Malik's puppet with Osiris/Slifer because he has to stick to the rules of the tournament which don't allow him to pull any of those fancy strategies to weaken it. But in the Memory World arc, Bakura is able to defeat Osiris/Slifer very easily after he's damaged the stone slab that houses the ka, causing Osiris/Slifer to weaken while Atem can't "draw more cards" to restore his ka's power.
In Duelist Kingdom, the rules appear to be that anything goes. The person who is most creative at bsing their way to plausible-sounding rules or actions (THE MOON RAISES THE SEA!! OH YEAH, WELL I ATTACK THE MOON!!) is the winner. Between Kaiba and Pegasus, they probably just ran about every conceivable action that any given card could be put through, and then let some of them combine. Besides, it looks cooler, and this way Yami can bs his way to victory in impressive ways.
It's valid by the rules, as well. If all the effects worked in the game, Gaia, the Dragon Champion's attack power is 2600 and Catapault Turtle can sacrifice one monster for half the damage. Panik's were less than 400, and the effect would have caused 1300 pts of direct damage, winning the duel.
As with anything, the early chapters/episodes were written BEFORE the card game was fully codified, and in many cases, the cards even created.
Okay, how does Mai's perfume trick work? I mean, fine, I can accept that she can distinguish cards by their smells when they are close to her. (Which is why Jonouchi being able to smell the cards makes a bit more sense in the manga, considering that they're actually sitting together in a small box with barely a meter between them.) But how in the hell did she manage to fool Dinosaur Ryuzaki? Even assuming that he didn't notice the smell (probably assumed she was wearing perfume), how could she possibly smell which card HE picked up? I know, of all things that could possibly bug me about Yu-Gi-Oh... but still, I don't get it. She's not Grenouille.
That's not how her trick works. She doesn't know what card her opponent drew, she just makes them think she does. By playing her own cards by smell instead of by sight, she convinces her opponent that she's psychic, and thus makes them doubt their own strategies, meaning they never try them, meaning they start floundering, meaning they're easy pickings.
Yes, but at the beginning of the Duelist Kingdom arc, when she's on the ship with Rex, she asks him to shuffle her cards and draw, and then she tells him which cards he drew, right? Of course, she did it only to confuse him, but still. How did she smell it from that distance? When she draws herself, she might subtly wave the card a bit, so that she can get the smell right, but when someone else draws for her? I get what the purpose of the trick is, I'm just not sure how it actually works.
Considering that they expect us to believe that she can actually discern different scents in a deck where each card has been sprayed with a different fragrance and then shuffled together I would say that smelling the cards from a distance is hardly the least believable aspect of it. Maybe she has the super sniffing powers.
You're right. Also, how in the hell does the smell stay? It has been established that the cards are pretty waterproof. (Exodia in the water, Yugi's cards in the river in season 4... the real cards would be ruined.) If you spray those cards, they might smell for a while, but wouldn't it just fade pretty quickly, because the perfume would stay on the surface? I have just tried it out on a piece of plastic, and I can barely smell the perfume anymore. And if the cards weren't waterproof, she would probably ruin them by spraying them with perfume, unless she applied the perfume with a tissue, in which case the smell wouldn't be nearly as strong.
To further add to the impossibility, anyone who actually owns a decent number of perfumes knows that they often contain similar ingredients to one another (such as vanilla, which is in most perfumes). Once the perfume has dried and faded a bit, sometimes the only thing you can pick out is that one particular ingredient. Meaning that after maybe ten minutes, all of Mai's cards would start to smell the same unless she has very unique perfumes. And as someone already pointed out, the cards have been rubbing up on each other, too...
I always figured that Mai was unconsciously using the Heart of the Cards. The first time it worked, she thought it was the perfume that did it, and has had no reason to suspect otherwise. Either that or she didn't want to believe in mystical energies from a children's card game of all things.
Let me make this simple: How the Hell can holograms cause explosions, knockback, wind, etc. outside of Shadow Games?
GX and onwards refer to the holograms as "Hard Light", a fictional technology that adds a slight level of physical depth to the holograms. Also 5Ds explains this with "Momentum" ("Ener-D" in the dub, "Feel" in the manga, and "Sense" in the English translation of the manga), which is an energy that is emitted when dueling that carries over your emotional intent in the impact, creating a type of sensation over the opponent.
Probably because the anime is over-the-top. I think in the manga version, the holograms are not as dangerous as the anime version. In fact, in Yugioh GX manga, it is implied that the players just act it up. In the manga, when Manjoume collapsed after getting direct attacked, his schoolmates (who were unaware that Manjoume was playing a shadow game instead of a regular duel and thus felt the pain) were surprised because Manjoume was not the type of person that "acted during duels". Note that the manga Manjoume is stoic and quiet, basically a total opposite to his loony anime counterpart.
Rule of Cool. Would you rather watch 30 minutes of players going "*fingersnap* Awww, nuts" when they lose life, or going "OH SHIT!!" as they see an explosion coming to knock them off a rickety rope bridge into a giant pit of rainbow anti-matter? In-universe, though, the explanation seems to be that Solid Vision's name comes at least in part from the fact that the holograms are, in fact, somehow related to actual matter.
It probably has something to do with a minor form of gravity manipulation through light. Light is made up of photons, which have properties of both a wave and a particle at the same time. Space and time are relative, and the closer to light speed a particle travels, the greater the distortion is. Einstein's theories of relativity state that gravity is nothing more than a distortion of the fabric of space-time. Thus, if light particles can distort time, they also distort space, and can potentially alter gravity. It seems reasonable then, that the explosions, knockback, wind, and other various effects produced by the "Solid Vision" holograms may be caused by minor gravity fields generated by the holograms.
Holograms do not work that way (and light in general doesn't work that way either).
When you say light doesn't work "that way" do you mean that light doesn't distort space-time? Because if that is your meaning, I think this guy would like to have a word with you.
I have always assumed it was some little fan thingy built into the duel disk itself. Take damage and you get a face full of air.
Forget explosions, how can holographic suits of armour allow two 17-year-olds to jump 30 feet in the air, punch each other, and have one fall back to the ground unharmed while the other flies down?
The Seal of Orichalcos makes everything in the game real.
No, all the Seal did was allow them to summon monsters from the other realm in place of their monsters. Joey and Vallon's armour, though? Those were advanced machines that would have no counterparts back then. So unless they had highly advanced computers fighting in the Dragon war as well....
And that doesn't explain how Valon could do it when he went 1-on-2 with Rebecca and Duke without the Seal.
Both Valon and Joey have, at some point, been shown to be pretty good fighters. If anyone human did what they did, it was them (and Tristan) that were more suited to doing so.
And how about Pegasus' toon monsters, for instance? A good guess would be that Dartz, with his money and power, had the initiative to create any card he or his minions desired, which is the only logical explanation for all of the Orichalcos related cards.
Only real Duel Monsters cards (and the Ghouls' amazing forgeries) work in real Duel Disks, but Dartz' crew doesn't use real Duel Disks — they have weird quasi-organic-looking ones that can accept any card Dartz devises. The real question is why Yuugi is able to use the Seal in his authentic Disk; shouldn't it reject it with "Card not recognized"? It's not even a counterfeit of a real card; there's no "Seal of Orichalcos" in Duel Monsters, let alone any of the specialty cards. Yet there's an entire fold-out hatch for these cards no one has ever heard of before.
That fold-out hatch is for Field Spells. And clearly Duel Disks are the Master Input Port to the card database. Encountered card not found in database? Upload information. If, later, card found to be a fake/custom, delete and flag against use future duels. Meaning the Seal and and the 3 Legendary Dragons can be reprinted later by Kaiba. (Because why the fuck WOULDN'T he want to reproduce the Dragon cards? He said they're individually as powerful as the 3 Gods combined.)
If the Duel Disks could detect counterfeit cards, how did Rare Hunter summon Exodia's head in his duel against Yugi? As far as I remember, Rare Hunter's Exodia Pieces were counterfeit in the original.
Dartz's company is mentioned as owning a piece of most of the companies in the world. It's not far-fetched to think he'd program the Seal in as a contingency plan. And the duel disks don't detect fakes, but simply don't register cards that they don't know exist.
Why do people continue with these tournaments even though you have people going into comas when they lose matches? Is there no regulatory committee for this sort of thing?
That only happens when some damn supervillains show up. And they only go after people with some connection to Millennium Items and the associated plot devices. The average player doesn't seem to have a problem worse than run-of-the-mill cheating.
Not to mention that, in Battle City, Kaiba was so focused on getting the God cards he was prepared to leave Ishizu in Domino after the Gods were all on board.
It's even lampshaded in the Kaibacorp Grand Prix arc during Jounouchi's match with Sieg. Honda points out that Jounouchi is playing terribly, and suggests maybe it's because, for once, the stakes are negligible.
How is it that if a character is given a card before a duel, they WILL draw that card in the duel even though, if they are using 40 card decks and the duels last about 5 turns, meaning they draw about 10 cards, there would only be a 1 in 4 chance of them drawing that particular card?
It's very simple: Dramatic Convenience: Just like (Sorry to say) my example above with the whole blimp thing as annoying and unrealistic as these things are it's simply so Takashi can create drama. If they didn't get the card, there would be no reason to introduce it.
Also keep in mind that one can have up to 3 copies of most cards. It seriously increases the chances of drawing the one you need if there are 3 in the deck.
Why are there so many contradictory titles? Weevil's the Japanese champion, but the Japanese Kaiba is the best duelist in the world? Bandit Keith, an American, is the intercontinental champion (which is the same as world, but he and Kaiba have supposedly never had a match), but Rebecca Hawkins is the #1 American duelist? And not a single Rare Hunter or member of Paradius has a ranked title, despite both groups having triple copies of every single card in the game?
In the manga, Duel Monsters game was relatively unknown in Japan when Kaiba and Yugi had their first and second duels. While Kaiba was mentioned as the best player in the country, there was not much competition in Japan. Due to the mind crush Yami Yugi inflicted, Kaiba was in coma for a whole year, during which, Duel Monsters game became very popular in Japan, competitions started to be held, and Weevil became the champion. In the manga, the reason why Kaiba Corp. was going to be taken over by Pegasus and why Kaiba was not invited to Duel Kingdom was because he was still in coma with no sign of recovery. Kaiba didn't recover until after Duel Kingdom was halfway done.
About Rebecca, the way I see it: Bandit Keith was the American champion, but after losing to Pegasus, he stopped taking part on official tournaments and only played for gambling, time of which the national tournament, which suposelly happens once per year, took place again, this time with Rebecca as the winner and thus gaining the right of calling herself "#1 American duelist", it is possible that the American tournament concluded shortly after the end of Duelist Kingdom, so Keith still held the title when he first appeared
Rare Hunters are Marik's mooks. Paradius was part of a filler arc. Rebecca was also a filler character.
True, it was filler, but it was still in the anime, so it was canon to the anime continuity. Is it that hard to figure out?
Weevil was the Japanese champion because he won a recent tournament that Kaiba and Yugi weren't participating in. Keith is the former U.S. champ, and Rebecca is the current one.
I have a problem with the fact that sometimes people will withold information about their in-play cards. There are a fair number of times when someone will announce something along the lines of "When you attack my monster, its special ability activates!" and their opponent, and the crowd watching will be stunned to learn these facts.
Perhaps they simply assume the other player knows what the card does?
Alternatively, it's because describing in detail the function of every single card you play is incredibly annoying for your opponent. I know this from experience.
But, as Duel Monsters is usually played in series with Duel Disks/stadiums at a distance sometimes it's impossible to check a card's text, and players seem to be explicitly hiding what should be publicly available information, which is against the rules in every card game known to man. At the very least, whenever a character sees an effect monster they don't know, they're demonstrating extremely bad play by not even asking what it does. Ra is perhaps the prime example of this, since it has new random powers in every duel it's used in that consistently suprise everyone around it, and since the text on it isn't in English everyone seems to pretty much have to take Marik's word for what it does. Even Kaiba, who owns and maintains the program that supposedly admins card effects/damage/life points, is stumped analyzing the card.
Maybe Kaiba Corp. makes the system, but Industrial Illusions is the one filling in the card database and making the holograms?
From a pure scriptwriting standpoint, it's so the monsters' abilities can be demonstrated without them just saying it. You could have the villain saying "My monster will kill you if you attack it, so don't even try", or you could have it actually happen. In-universe, it's probably that effect monsters' effects are treated like traps, so you don't have to reveal it until its time to use it — at that time, its effect is verified by the hardware, so as to avoid any cheating (remember, if the disk registers a bad move, it will lock up and skip your turn). A card could only do more than was intended once, and even then they needed to actually rewrite the code for the card on every level. All other times, all effects were apparently legit — including Jinzo's rust-proofing, Mystical Elf's ability to give the BEWD its power, and everything Ra did.
Also keep in mind that in the Yu-Gi-Oh!-verse, to be a good player, you need to know pretty much what every card in the game does by heart. The ones in your hand have text written on them (in the original version), and it's assumed that you've read your cards before starting to play, because it would be really annoying if every other turn, your opponent stopped to read the effect. And still, If I recall correctly, there are a couple of instances where somebody says (or thinks) something among the lines of, "Heh, good thing you have no idea what your own card does, or I'd be dead now." I think that Jounouchi is the victim of this mostly, what with his Time Wizard having so many "surprising" effects. And there are just as many cases of somebody with an effect monster laying a pretty obvious trap - if you know what the effect is! Usually, Jounouchi attacks, and while his monster flies towards the opponent's monster, Yugi goes all, "NOOOOO!" but it's too late, and the opponent reveals the monster's hidden effect. So, in a way, knowledge actually is half the battle.
How do they decide who goes first half the time? It seems like who ever just says 'MY TURN, DRAW!' gets to open up the match.
Maybe the duel disks randomly select who goes up first.
Presumably, there's a coin flip or game of rock-paper-scissors like there would be in real life, and they just skip over that because it's boring and doesn't affect the story.
What is up with the Duel Disks? They way they work is very inconsistent at times. For example, when Joey summons Red Eyes against the Rare Hunter, the card appears, then he sacrifices the 2 monsters and the Dragon comes out of the card, later on, players sacrifice the monsters, they disappear, then they summon the high-level monster, and finally, near the end, when they appear in Egypt, they put in their ace monster, which is of a high level, and it just appears in monster form without tributes. What? Maybe the sacrifice worked differently when Joey took on the Rare Hunter because it was the first time Joey played his high-level monster, so its card form appeared as though to tell him he needed the sacrifices, but the Egypt example is going way too far. Did the Duel Disks recognize they were in Ancient Egypt and adjusted themselves to the rules of 3000/5000 years ago or something?
Weren't the duel disks a product of their imagination? But I think it also happens outside of duels, season 4 for example. Okay, the anime is not the most reliable source, but it leads me to believe that there are different modi. Presumably, there's the duel-mode that basically follows the rules, and a "just for fun" mode where you can basically just throw any card on the disk and have it materialise.
Yes, in the Millennium World arc the Duel Disks were just imaginary constructs. In Season 4 (which is filler and not canon, anyway) the Duel Monsters are all made real by the power of the Orichalcos, so if they summon something outside of a duel they're using the disks as some sort of conduit to summon the actual spirits of the monsters and not dueling.
The Duel Disks would kind of have to have some kind of testing mode that just projects images without requiring a duel to be going on. Leaving that available to the consumer as some kind of "play hologram" mode would be a great marketing concept (and, considering how much Fanservice is in the game, probably sell a whole lot of Duel Disks to Hikikomori).
In the battle with Leviathan there's no duel going on, yet Yuugi, Kaiba, and Jounouchi still place cards on their Duel Disks to summon their monsters.
This can probably be Hand Waved as ancient Egpytian magic (patent pending), considering they're fighting a soul-stealing magic entity with magic knights that sometimes happen to be dragons sealed into magic spells.
They don't need to use the Duel Disks to summon the actual legendary Dragons from the cards (Yugi just holds up his that first night, after all), they're just doing it out of habit.
Yes, Joey is a Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass, and yes, he acts like a dumbass most of the time, but why does everyone keep insisting that he's weak and that they'll be able to beat him easy-peasy? He came second in Duelist Kingdom and he was a Semi-Finalist in Battle City. Surely that's a clue that maybe, just maybe, he's actually a really good player? Aside from each arc's Big Bad, Kaiba, or Yugi, he never lost a single duel. Despite this, he somehow gets a reputation for being a loser. Why is this?
Wait, do you mean canon-wise or fandom-wise? Anyway, I think (at least within the fandom) it's because he's not a wielder of a Millennium Item nor has he held an Egyptian God Card. (He did hold one of the legendary dragons, but that was in a filler arc.) Plus, he's not as big as Kaiba and Yugi. His continuing decline in rank doesn't help at all, especially since he uses a gamble deck that makes it very easy for detractors (both in the series and the fandom) to downplay his victories.
Of course, said gamble deck is really a smattering of chance cards, which is meant to compensate for his lack of access to rare and powerful cards. Said fandom, meanwhile, is likely to take Kaiba's beatstick ownership for granted as much as Kaiba does and, predictably, treats Joey as he would.
Also, he has lost to a lot of minor-level duelists. In order, Tea, Duke Devlin, Steve (look, he had no real name, okay?), Odion (who would have won easily if he hadn't been forced to play the fake card), and Mai.
His loss to Tea/Anzu is before he is properly trained by Yugi's grandpa or even has a remotely playable deck. For Duke, it is originally a random dice game where Duke is exposed by Atem in the manga, that in the anime is changed to a card duel played with draft decks (decks exclusively made up of cards pulled from booster packs on the spot), and Joey narrowly loses, partly due to Duke topdecking the very card he needs to finish him off. Steve uses an illegal deck loaded with multiples of limited cards, including draw cards such as Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity and, most of all, 3 Exodia sets (which are fakes, at that). Odion does come close, but due to rule differences wouldn't have won if Judgment of Anubis were the same as its Real Life card; Joey plays Giant Trunade, which returns magic/trap cards to the players' hands rather than destroying them, and Anubis only negates the latter case. (Not to mention that Joey was limited more by lack of strong monsters than by skill, or else he would have reduced Odion to 0 outright before Odion got the chance to spring the Temple of the Kings combo.) And Mai a minor duelist? How dare you, sir.
You mean similar to how Jinzo was given the new effect of destroying rather than just negating all trap cards? That wasn't doing Odion any favors either; it left him open to Joey's multiple direct attacks.
Wouldn't have made a difference. Embodiment of Apophis is returned to the spell zone it came from and treated as a trap card when its effect is negated, so there wouldn't have been a functional difference for Odion if his traps got destroyed or negated.
The only reason Joey summons Jinzo in the first place is because he uses a two-card combo of Foolish Burial and Graverobber that both use effects that are completely different from their actual ones.
They were given different effects in the manga. Foolish Burial in particular hadn't even debuted yet in the real life card game.
Also, Joey would've won against Marik if he didn't cheat with Shadow Games. Yes, Joey deserves some more respect.
Duke may have been a rewrite, but its still canon for the anime. He also was participating in a draft duel, which most duelists will agree is the only way to have a level playing field in a battle between a champion who has had his deck rebuilt over and over with rare cards and a noob (which I'll remind you is exactly what that was). Duke may have topdecked Fairy Meteor Crush, but Joey admitted he topdecked Goblin Attack Force, so saying that diminishes his loss is just wrong.
Which would mean that Duke really was a good duelist who suffered a case of Redemption Demotion at the end of that mini-arc.
I may be mistaken, but didn't he lose to Mai on purpose?
Mai was in position to make the winning move, but when she realized that she didn't actually want to beat Joey, he collapsed, tired from his previous duel, and lost anyway.
How are these tournaments expected to function? The KC Grand Prix would work, with a set number of contestants and regularly enforced rounds, but Duelist Kingdom and Battle City? There are way too many people in both for it to function properly; Duelist Kingdom would need at most 20 people (4X10 Star Chips means 40, 2 Chips Apiece means 40/2=20) and there were far more than that, and Battle City would require 48 — more, yes, but still far more than the number shown.
And even then, why allow people to just go wandering off? Why not actually make them fight? You know, like an actual tournament. What use does setting them loose in the city serve apart from giving the writers an excuse to put Yugi in a deathtrap?
In Battle City, allowing participants to wander off is to give the rare hunters plenty of opportunities to enter the game by stealing the duel disks. Bakura's, Marik's, Ishizu's, and Odion's duel disks are definitely stolen from legitimate participants. The Rare Hunters most likely CANNOT participate legally with the restriction that Kaiba placed (you need to be at least 5 star duelist to get the duel disks required to participate) and most likely WOULD NOT participate if they could not cheat under watch of spectators/judges and whatnot. This would defeat the purpose of holding the tournament to begin with. It's also why the final is held in private. Otherwise, spectators would notice that half of the finalists were not original participants and that many of them were "screwing the rules."
But Odion, Marik and the Rare Hunters' duel disks weren't stolen — each was given to them after the man in charge of handing out Duel Disks edited the information, fabricating their accounts and giving them a spot in the tournament, just like he did for Joey.
Well, that wasn't exactly legal either, was it? From a legal standpoint, we'd have to know whether the guy was distributing the names as Kaiba's employee, or has just bought a bunch of disks to distribute, in which case he could do whatever he liked with them. However, given that Kaiba wanted to control the distribution of the disks, it can be assumed that the guy had a contractual obligation to only give out disks to people who are qualified. Changing information and giving disks to peoeple who shouldn't have gotten them does amount to stealing and reset in the cases of the Rare Hunters and Marik.
It's explained in the manga before Yugi's duel with the Player Killer of Darkness that there are 40 contestants in Duelist Kingdom, with a total of 80 Star Chips, and the goal of the Player Killers is to take 40 chips from the duelists, with the remaining 40 going to the tournament finalists.
In the manga, the actual number of contestants in battle city seems to be 48. At least, Kaiba says that there are 48 locator cards. In the anime, it's spoken of "hundreds of duelists" if I remember correctly, which makes no sense whatsoever. As for the Duelist Kingdom, maybe it was mostly about who first manages to get 10 starchips (and wasn't there also a time limit?), with the additional "playkillers" as adversaries? Yeah, it really doesn't make any sense.
Both tournaments have time limits.
Duel disks used in Battle City also have a duelist finder function, which Joey uses in the manga.
If Kaiba's whole plan was to get powerful cards, why would he ban any cards at all? And then, why is Hinotama considered bannable but Harpie's Feather Duster, the signature broken card, allowable?
In this case, I think Kaiba's pride played a big role. Maybe he thought that cards that can reduce lifepoints without any condition are a cheap way to win?
The field Magic card was invented by Pegasus for the Duelist Kingdom competition. Okay, two major problems. One: Yugi already has the Burning Land card, which is useful only for destroying Field cards. In fact, that's the entirety of what it does in the entire season it is shown. Why did it exist before that? Second major problem: Allister, Raphael, and Valon were all taking peoples souls long before that contest, using the Seal of Orichalcos. How would they even manage to play that card? There wouldn't exist a slot for it.
Funny how you ask a question about the Seal of Orichalcos right after the Field Spell question, which the Seal of Orichalcos happens to fall under. About Burning Land, the concepts of Field Spell cards and, as always, many cards like Burning Land, were different from the actual card game, since they were written beforehand. Pegasus' Duelist Kingdom field territory rules were entirely different, so evidently, Burning Land targeted designated areas.
I think this is anime only, but it still bugs me. It has been established that you need to have the actual fusion monster, which is consistent with real life rules, unless one of the mystical dragons in season 4 is involved. So, for what reason does Yugi carry a card he could ONLY every use in a 2 vs 2 duel with Kaiba? I'm talking about the fusion between Black Luster Soldier and the Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon. This card cannot be used in any other situation, and unlike other cards that only work under a certain condition, this is no in-game condition. The condition is Kaiba, who's not known for being a team player, to actually have a double duel with you. It just strains the Crazy-Prepared trope a bit too much.
BLS is a good card on its own (as good as any similar card can be in the anime), so Yugi keeps it around. It being able to fuse with Kaiba's most powerful mon is a bonus.
Yes, but why does he actually have a Dragon Master Knight in his deck?
Because he has a habit of dueling Kaiba, either with him or against him. A monster that only requires Kaiba's BEUD to die, then a Monster Reborn to use, and has THAT level of power, is well worth using.
At the time when the series came out (i.e., before the creation of Synchros) there was no limit to the number of cards you could have in your fusion deck. It would make sense to keep any fusion monster you get your hands on on the off-chance it may be useful — even if not against Kaiba, a person could use a fusion substitute monster.
I know Headscratchers and WMG insists on answering questions that normally are assumed to be hand waved, but come on. Fusion Monsters (and Synchros and Xyz) exist in a state of dimensional flux. When Polymerization is activated, the Fusion Monster crosses from the other dimension into this one. If it makes you feel better, just imagine the card creating itself like what happens in 5D's.
I'm totally ready to accept that you can just randomly fuse monsters just like that. I'm just not really happy about the fact that it turns out that you need to have a fusion monster card (just talking about the anime here, not the RL TCG). But I accepted the other tropers' reasons for Yugi carrying around that particular card, so I didn't argue further.
The power of friendship
Why are Yugi and co. so quick to befriend and/or help Kaiba? Following the manga, the majority of their early encounters with him involve kidnapping, theft, and/or attempted murder. Even if we assume that they were willing to start over after Yami Yugi "cleansed Kaiba's darkness" or whatever, that still doesn't explain why they're so comfortable with Mokuba. Have they completely forgotten that he tried to poison Jounouchi/Joey and Yugi? Or that he forced Yugi into a game as part of Death-T where the loser might be terrified into a heart attack?
Joey himself points this out in the manga when they arrive at the place where the Duel Tower was, thinking something along the lines of "Well, if you're such a nice guy, why'd you try to kill us with a giant theme park of death?!" I think it's because Yugi is quite a forgiving kid, and his friends just follow his example. Still sucks, though.
Also, recall that Mokuba saved Honda's life during Death-T, and called off his older brother's gun-wielding thugs.
In the original manga (and the duelist kingdom arc of the anime), Kaiba undergoes a lot of character development as he learns that winning isn't everything. He even saves Yugi in duelist kingdom! In battle city, it's revealed that Kaiba is such a jerk because of his abusive stepfather and after losing to Yugi again, he learns to let go of the past and that friendship is important. In the anime, Kaiba becomes a jerk after duelist kingdom, so it looks like Yugi has Stockholm's syndrome for trusting the guy.
The claim that Kaiba values Blue Eyes so much because it represents Kisara's reincarnation. Even if Takahashi said it himself, it contradicts Kaiba's love and modus operandi of having the rarest and most powerful cards, with his ownership of the only full playset of the card, which as of that point in the series is the most powerful monster with no adverse effects or summoning limitations, practically guarantees that no one else can hope to create a deck with as much built-in power. What's more is that some fangirls will use the Kisara connection as a humanizing trait, even though in practice he uses the dragons to knock the stuffing out of his opponents while acting superior towards them, especially if they're using weaker monsters, more often than not. The Kisara connection would mean something if it were to a weak card he wouldn't otherwise dream of using, like Happy Lover.
Pfft, power nothing. Blue Eyes is a two-tribute beatstick without an effect, and it dies to removal just like any other monster. If it wasn't for the whole Kisara thing, even subconsciously, Kaiba would probably favor a card with just as much power but with a far better effect, like XYZ or Chaos Emperor Dragon. A player of Kaiba's caliber would only stick with a monster so horribly outdated for the Rule of Cool.
Those cards came out much later. Effect cards, much less powerful ones, were few and far between in the early days. And lest we forget, he had a habit of deriding weak cards regardless. Need I remind you of his reaction to Kuriboh, prior to the rest of Yami's combo?
Though it's true that power plays the biggest role here, one can't deny that there is some kind of emotional connection, even without Word of God — especially if one considers how it represented a symbol of hope during one of the flashbacks in the virtual world (Mokuba's drawing), or how he relied on it despite having freakin' Obelisk on his side of the field. However, it doesn't change anything (or much) about Kaiba's characterization. If anything, it's more a kind of additional particular fondness, rather than "reunion with his one true love!!!"
Mokuba's drawing is non-canon, and the incident during the duel vs. Ishizu is about screwing destiny. If it were about going with love over power, it would be a Broken Aesop, because BEWD isn't much weaker than Obelisk. There are only basic parallels, in that whereas Priest Seto valued Kisara as a near and dear individual, Kaiba quite possibly values Blue-Eyes as a symbol of his rise to the top, and definitely one of his power.
Screw Destiny is how Kaiba justifies his actions, but in actuality he has a connection with the Blue-Eyes White Dragon (not necessarily emotional, but a connection nonetheless) Blue-Eyes calls out to him through the Millennium Rod, which he also has a connection to.
Why is Mokuba's drawing non-canon?
Because it's not in the manga, which is the source material.
Not in the manga =/= Non-canon. Not in the manga = Non-canon to the manga. It's canon to the anime. Separate continuities.
I think what inspired this view is probably Raphael's relationship to his Eatos card, but that's definitely not the case here.
Another non-canon case. Raphael was always a counterpart to Atemu, with Eatos being his answer to the latter's Dark Magician.
Can't Kaiba fusion 3 out of his hand and have Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon 4500 ATK, then if he has de-fusion that's three 3000 ATK monsters without sacrificing those 6 monsters?
Yes, he can. And he (well, his spirit counterpart anyway) did EXACTLY that in GX.
Yami beats him to it; that's how he beats Noah in the VR arc.
"The Kisara connection would mean something if it were to a weak card he wouldn't otherwise dream of using." But it kind of is. 99% of characters' "ace" cards are special (like Fusion or Synchro) or have useful/intimidating Special Effects. The BEWD has nothing directly special about it except being fusion material and the highest Attack Points for a Normal monster. Even fans of Power Decks like Jack Atlas know the value of Special Effects over Attack Points, and Kaiba couldn't have become such a dueling legend by holding the amateurish philosophy that Attack Points are everything. Kaiba was unaware of his connection with Kisara when his obsession with the BEWD began; its high attack points are a half-decent way for Kaiba to subconsciously compromise having such a boring, otherwise weak monster at the center of his deck with his obsession with Power, but logically, it doesn't make all that much sense.
Yes, which would make sense if Kaiba was a character in Zexal. He is, however, a character in the original series. Yugi's signature card was Dark Magician, Joey's was Red Eyes. Both of these with with the same limitations of effects and drawbacks as Blue Eyes, but without the 3000 attack. Also, yes, the metagame is different now, but back then, back when the series started and Kaiba's connection with his card was gone over, ATK was everything.
I'm probably the only one who isn't in on the joke but, why exactly does Kaiba hate Joey so much? Like, even more than anyone else in Yugi's gang? Almost immediately after they meet?
Dub-only. Kaiba is slightly condescending to everyone. Jonouchi just happens to have a hot enough temper to be bothered by it. Doesn't help that the dubbers take the liberty of adding insults to Kaiba's lines to make it look like he has some kind of vendetta against "Wheeler".
Perhaps they wanted to go with a "Slobs Versus Snobs" theme. Problem is, they pretty much made it one-sided in the "snob's" favor.
Japanese-only. The impression I get is that Kaiba is just a bully, and bullies pick on the people who give them the most amusing reaction. Among Yuugi's True Companions that would definitely be Jounouchi. This explains some of the times that Kaiba specifically singles him out, like when he captions Jounouchi's Battle City portrait "Nobody."
In the Japanese version, at least, the word Kaiba uses to describe Jonouchi most often is "mediocre." So, it's not that he actually hates him, per se. It's just that he doesn't respect him. In Kaiba's mind, Yugi is the best of the best, a worthy opponent, but Jonouchi is just a nameless nobody, another random face in the crowd, completely below his notice and completely unworthy of his time.
And now for the greatest battle in all Yugioh continuity: What would happen if ever there was a duel between the Heart of the Cards and the Power of Friendship?
Impossible! Trusting In The Heart Of The Cards is just invoking the Power Of Your Friendship With Your Monsters. They are one and the same!!
I don't know how to say this, but... Pegasus' plot makes no sense! He wants both the Items and Industrial Illusions/Kaibacorp to resurrect his dead lover. So he kidnaps the loved ones of Kaiba and Yugi to force them to play ball. Fair enough. But then, wouldn't it be in his interests to make sure Yugi gets to the finals? Instead, he makes everyone desperate to beat Yugi, sends mooks against him, and then (in the manga) says only one of Kaiba or Yugi may enter the castle, even though Yugi has ten star chips! It makes no sense in terms of Pegasus' goal to do that. Granted, Yugi would have been stranded on the island until the tournament ended, as is implied in the manga that the other boats back had already left, so Pegasus could have tried to steal the item then, but if he had intended to steal the item, there was no point him avidly humouring Yugi playing in his tournament (and there'd be no point to the tournament itself, come to think of it...)
In the flashback sequence where Pegasus tells the kid how to beat Bandit Keith... what was Pegasus trying to prove? The kid beat Keith in one move, meaning one of two things: one, that the implications of the mind reading were useless, as the victory was a simple matter of playing the right card after Bandit Keith's turn (and that the kid wouldn't have known what to do without Pegasus's note), or two, that Bandit Keith clearly wasn't beaten by the kid himself; he was just doing what Pegasus told him to do. Either way, part of that sequence becomes a little superfluous.
Even worse, this was an actual case of cheating. Not only did Pegasus replace himself with another player (which is outright against the rules in almost every single one-on-one match in tournaments), he also gave that player a note that told him exactly what to do. That right there is a blatant example of cheating in front of millions of people and was caught on camera. People get banned from tournament play for far less than that in Real Life.
Well, Pegasus was running the tournament and created the card game itself, so he makes the rules.
And it's not technically cheating: there's no rule against having a player take your physical place on the field and giving him commands. Odds are there weren't any traps or spells to stop the kid, Pegasus was just humiliating Keith by showing that he was so much better that he could tell someone exactly what to do (the child part being just for extra humiliation) and win that easily.
That would still be cheating if only because Keith himself pointed out that asking for help wasn't permitted in the tournament. Even ignoring the ludicrous idea that the audience would accept some kid being thrown into the last match when dozens or hundreds of them lost in early rounds, Keith still should have pointed out that Pegasus giving the kid instructions is a case of the kid cheating.
The point is not that he exchanged places with the kid, that is technically "substitution," but then he told the kid what to do and even wrote it down, which is "helping."
Remember, though, the match in question was an Exhibition Match. Bandit Keith had already won (and retained) the title of Intercontinental Champion, so the match between him and Pegasus was just Fanservice, there was actually nothing at stake. As such, yes, what Pegasus did was cheating by having a proxy take over, but he's the creator and owner of Duel Monsters, and since the match was superfluous anyway, probably no one really cared enough to lose their job over it.
And in the manga, it wasn't a tournament at all; Keith explicitly challenged Pegasus, and Pegasus accepted (he set all the other conditions: a million dollars were at stake, and the entire thing was broadcasted nationwide).
The manga explains that Pegasus did it to create publicity, basically turning the event into a commercial for duel monsters. The whole scene was a bit offensive, because it implied that all Americans care only about money. The anime toned it down a bit, taking away the million dollar wager and making Keith act rudely to Pegasus, so Pegasus humiliated keith out of revenge, not to advertise his product.
Well, apparently, Bandit Keith calls him a paedophile. ("So you like little boys.") That's more than just being a bit rude.
What bugged me about this scene is that they don't explain how a monster with only 1850 ATK can destroy Garnecia (2400 ATK) and take all of Keith's lifepoints.
To answer the original question: The point of the scene is to show how cheated and humiliated Bandit Keith feels (rightfully so), and give more evidence of Pegasus using the Millennium Eye to cheat. in the English dub, at least, the info on the note he gave the kid included what card Keith was going to play, so Pegasus had to have cheated somehow. I don't see what was superfluous about it. To answer the above question: The reason that monster won even with lower ATK points is because at that point the actual game had some Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors in it; Pegasus's monster is a Wind-element and Garnecia Elephantis is an Earth-element, so Pegasus's monster won the battle automatically. Why that takes out Keith's LP isn't explained.
During Yugi's 3rd duel with Kaiba (The one that introduces Blue Eyes Ultimate), why doesn't Kaiba just attack Yugi's Celtic Guardian after resurrecting his Blue-Eyes on the turn it was reborn? Instead, he waits a turn for some reason. He could win that duel legitimately if he would just do that, and we know it's possible to attack with a monster on the turn it's reborn because Yugi himself does it with that card all the time in the same season.
Rule of Drama. It puts Yugi in the realization that he's not the only person pulling the strings, which starts him communicating with Yami. If Kaiba ended it right there, Yugi wouldn't have secured the fact there was another presence.
No, I'm pretty sure in the first season of the Duelist Kingdom rules, there was a clause that monsters reborn from the graveyard couldn't attack until the next turn, just like monsters that were just created through a fusion. Probably a "special summons cannot attack on the turn they are special summoned" rule or something, worded in real life terms.
No, it was already stated that Yugi does almost the exact same move in an earlier duel by resurrecting a Blue-Eyes and attacking on the same turn (Yugi vs. Monster Clown), and later in the same season Yugi resurrects a Black Skull Dragon and attacks on the same turn.
Actually, it was all part of some bizarre unique in-canon ruling regarding Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon at the time. The monster can only be destroyed one head at a time. (Which is why Yami could only behead one of the monster's three heads.) On the flipside, a revived head would have to wait a turn in order to attack.
Then couldn't Kaiba just revive another monster, like Curse of Dragon or Swordstalker and attack for the win?
Yes, but he has a dragon fetish.
That doesn't explain why he couldn't have revived Curse of Dragon, though.
Probably because Kaiba knows that Yugi doesn't have what it would take to kill him to win. (Boy, would he be surprised if Yugi didn't intervene!) It's just Kaiba rubbing it in Yugi's face that he has the killer edge while Yugi doesn't.
The Duel Disks only have space for one card and four magic cards. At all times, there is only one monster in play — when Kuriboh is multiplying, Kuriboh acts as the sacrifice for Kuriboh Tokens, which don't require placing an actual card down at that point. Kaiba can't revive Curse of Dragon or Swordstalker cause he doesn't have space — his BEUD is still on the field.
Not exactly, it's more like one active "main" monster and 4 side cards (which can be monsters). You can attack with a non-active monster, you just can't use your other side cards to power it up if you do. So even if he couldn't switch the active Blue-Eyes with his revived monster, he could still attack with it. Another odd thing about the scene is that Kaiba seems to have Negate Attack as his fifth card, which means that once he draws Monster Reborn he doesn't need the suicide threat anymore. Now, it's possible he just did it to screw with Yugi's head, but everyone (including Kaiba) acts as if it's his only way to win...
The boots come from the same place as the extra hair, clothes, muscle and bone that appears whenever Yugi becomes Yami Yugi.
Also note the loss of his white undershirt. The anime gives Yami Yugi strange dimension-warping powers that include his clothing (a.k.a. taking their own little liberties with the character designs that don't make sense and giving Yami Yugi the ability to NOT GET BURNED BY FIRE during his duel with Panik). In the manga, Yami Yugi retains the same clothes, height, and muscle campacity as Yugi after the transformation. Even the boots and the white undershirt. The "extra hair" is just a few strands of Yugi's bangs flying up to make him look possessed. You can even compare their hairstyles in the pic shown on the main YGO page and notice that Yugi has more bangs than his alter ego.
In the Manga, Yugi and Yami Yugi are horrified by Kaiba saying that he "bets his life" on the card game, saying a life is something too precious to bet. But earlier, Yami Yugi bets his life on pretty much every one of his games, and he isn't wagering for someone he loved. Hell, he bet his life with Haga/Weevil the previous day.
Which brings up another absurdity - why would Haga/Weevil want to kill Yugi? At least the anime makes it more plausible by having Yugi wager his deck against Haga/Weevil's other star chip, considering his deck is something Haga would actually want.
Yami Yugi was still trying to get his head screwed on straight prior to Duelist Kingdom, though some of those games didn't quite give him a choice in what he would lose if he lostnote (e.g., Bakura's Monster World RPG, Kaiba's Death-T, and Imori's Dragon Cards). Also, Haga/Weevil is reluctant to wager both of his starchips at first when he sees that Yugi has only one chip of his own. Plus, Yugi and Yami Yugi are both still pissed at Haga/Weevil for getting rid of the Exodia cards at this point, and that anger is mixed with the drive to rescue Yugi's Grandpa's soul. In contrast, when they come up against Kaiba later, they don't know the full extent of Mokuba's current condition (if they know about it at all, I may be mixing up that detail with the anime since I haven't read that part of the manga in a while) so when they call Kaiba out on betting his life, they do so because they think he just wants to win at any cost. It's not like Kaiba told them all about his motives. Shame, considering Yugi and Yami Yugi would probably have tried to help rescue Mokuba if Kaiba had just taken a minute or two to explain his brother's situation.
In the Japanese dub and the manga, part of the prize for Duelist's Kingdom is majority shares in Industrial Illusions. What does Yuugi do with all of those shares? I mean, it effectively means that he owns the company. Does he trade them for new trading cards? Sell them so he can afford to redo his wardrobe entirely in leather? What happened??
Why does the anime version of Dark Bakura want to kidnap Mokuba during Duelist Kingdom and steal the key to Kaiba Corp.'s secret safe? What would be gain by doing that? Were the anime producers on some sort of crack when they wrote the adaptation of Duelist Kingdom? They probably were, seeing as Dark Bakura suddenly starts bringing cards to life to eat up Pegasus's guards and displays powers that are never seen again in the anime.
He probably wanted a bargain token with Pegasus in case he failed to take the Millenium Eye by force. In the anime, at least, Pegasus mentions he would lose because he is extremely tired from the battle against Yugi. For all we know, Bakura couldn't take on a full-power Pegasus. As for the random summoning, it isn't very different from the way ancient Egyptians summoned monsters in first place; maybe Bakura was using the same method, only using cards instead of hundred-ton stone tablets. As for why he never used it again, who knows?
The powers of the modern-day Millennium Items are limited to starting normal Shadow Games and wagers, along with other unique powers, though. That's a fact that's been ESTABLISHED. If they could still summon ka, there would be no need to play any game. At all. Especially with the Tomb Keepers, who knew about the ancient Shadow Game played 3,000 years ago which involved summoning monsters. Not to mention, the only way to bring the monsters on the CARDS to life is to start a Shadow Game of Duel Monsters. There aren't actually any Monster Spirits in the cards - the monsters that appear are merely illusions invoked by the magic of the items, except the God Cards.
Duelist Kingdom. One of the first things Yugi says about the competition is that he doesn't care about the money. Why the hell, after finding out that Joey desperately needs the money for Serenity's eye operation, does he not just go "Oh, hey, if I win I'll give you the money, seeing as I don't need or want it"? I find it hard to believe that, even worrying about his grandfather, Yugi wouldn't make that connection, especially when it's explicitly and repeatedly stated by Joey that he's duelling for Serenity's sake.
And, in the end, that's exactly what Yugi does. I suppose the argument could be made that the more duelists fighting on Serenity's behalf, the better. (With the real game, this would be true, thanks to Metagame considerations. If one player is vulnerable only to strategy X, they can get a friend to enter the tournament with a strategy-X-killer deck. But that's getting technical, and really doesn't apply here.)
Motivation. Joey wouldn't have learned nearly as much or played half as well if he hadn't had an important reason.
Another Duelist Kingdom headscratcher: why does the gang brand Weevil and Mai cheaters simply for taking advantage of the field advantages and (let's be honest) basically being better duelists? True, Mai also has her scent trick, although it's doubtful that's against any rules; all she can do is predict her next card, which is information she would find out by... playing the game normally. To be honest, it just comes across as petty whining because the gang can't be bothered to stick near a playing field that is advantageous to Yugi's and Joey's monsters, which would give them an advantage of their own and make much more strategic sense. Something you'd think they'd want, given how much is riding on the competition.
Mai's scent trick is flat-out using marked cards, and is against the rules in pretty much any card game ever. Being able to know what you'll draw on your next turn is an enormous advantage in planning your current one. In the Japanese version, Weevil is cheating because he has advanced information on the Duelist Kingdom field-effect rules, which players were supposed to find out the hard way during the tournament.
Actually, in the Japanese version Weevil was in fact given the info in advance by Pegasus himself as a prize for winning the Japanese championship. In the English dub, this was changed so that Weevil somehow "stole" the info. The former version exhibits an odd sort of... "legal" cheating whereas the latter is flat-out trickery.
Mai never used her scent trick to actually know her card in advance, she only ever used it to be able to know the cards in her hand without looking at them. It would still be illegal, but she only did it to play mind games with her opponent rather than for the usual purpose of marked cards.
The big problem with the various playing fields is that they encourage exactly that strategy: find a field that benefits you, then spend the entire tournament camped there. Of course, if everybody does that, no duels will take place. Someone has to be willing to play at a less-than-optimal field for the Duelist Kingdom tournament to work. Rule of Drama says it's the protagonists.
Pegasus needed to beat Yugi in an official duel to take control of Kaiba Corp. However, during his duel with Yugi he keeps gloating that he knows what cards Yugi is holding in his hand via the Millenium eye and the duel was going to be broadcasted to the whole world to restore Kaiba Corp.'s reputation. Surely someone would have pointed out that the duel was unfair assuming for example Pegasus has hidden cameras or something, which kind of ruins the whole plan.
He probably would have edited the recording before broadcasting.
Ok, so this might be manga-only, but at one point, Yami Yugi is telling Pegasus that Yugi is ten times the duelist he is because he actually trusts his instincts, is willing to take risks without being certain of the outcome, and doesn't resort to cheap tactics (mind reading). Pegasus says that he's a good duelist because he plans so that he can fight without needing to take risks, then his Toon World combo is promptly taken out in one turn. Pegasus then decides to bring up a Shadow Game and specifically thinks "This is a wizard's battle, no normal mortal can endure it. How long can you take the pressure, Yugi-boy?" Soo, Pegasus is trying to prove that he's the better duelist by... cheating so that Yami Yugi can no longer block out the mind-reading techniques because the other half of their Mind Shuffle is unconscious and dying. Really?
You answered your own question. Pegasus considers himself to be the better duelist because he doesn't take risks. Magically gaining an unfair advantage is perfectly in line with that statement.
Something that's been bugging me recently. In Yugi's duel with Panik, he uses Catapult Turtle to launch Gaia into Panik's castle, knocking its Floatation Ring off so that it'll collapse on his monsters when he ends his turn. Yugi ends his turn and the Swords of Revealing Light are extinguished, with the Chaos Shield leaving Panik's monsters trapped inside. My question is, why didn't Panik simply remove the card from the field? He was monologuing to himself just his previous turn that when the swords wore off he would remove the shield so he could attack Yugi's monsters and win the duel. Yugi ended his turn, so he was free to do so, so what was stopping him from removing the card and saving his monsters?
Alternatively, he could only remove the shield during his own Main Phase (or at least Turn), and it was technically Yugi's End Phase when the castle fell.
So, during Yugi's duel with Mai he acts as though the only way he can beat her is to get his hands on the Black Lustre Ritual. Except, he's got a Monster Reborn in his hand, a Dark Magician in the Graveyard, and three turns where Mai can't attack. Why doesn't he do the following—resurrect Dark Magician and take out a Harpy Lady. Mai has two more turns to wait. Take out another Harpy Lady. Mai still has another turn to wait. Take out Harpy's Pet Dragon, who now only has 2300 ATK. Mai can move, but only has one Harpy Lady on the field.
Swords of Revealing Light doesn't prevent the setting or activation of Trap Cards or Spell Cards. Mai could have used a Trap Card like Sakuretsu Armor or Mirror Force to destroy Yugi's Dark Magician, and then he'd basically be screwed. Besides, you're forgetting that Yugi actually found out earlier that Mai has Harpie's Feather Duster in her deck — what if she had used that to destroy Swords of Revealing Light prematurely? Yugi is very low on Life Points at the time and can't afford to take any risks.
Near the end of Yami/Yugi's duel with Pegasus, Yami uses Mystic Box to free his Dark Magician from being an equip on Relinquished (impossible in the real game, but I'll accept that it works here) by switching it with Jigen Bakudan. He then uses Brain Control to take control of Relinquished, then activates Dark Magic Ritual, Tributing his Dark Magician and the Jigen Bakudan to Ritual Summon Magician of Black Chaos. (Again, Tributing the Jigen Bakudan would be impossible in the real game, since Jigen Bakudan is being treated as an equip at this point, not a monster, but we'll let it slide here.) Since Pegasus has no monsters on the field at this point, and Duelist Kingdom rules don't allow direct attacks, Yami ends his turn, Relinquished returns to Pegasus's control, and on Pegasus's next turn, he makes it into Thousand-Eyes Restrict and Yami has to use the Kuriboh + Multiply combo to keep Thousand-Eyes Restrict from taking the Magician of Black Chaos. Except... why didn't Yami tribute Relinquished instead of Jigen Bakudan? It's not clear what would have happened to Jigen Bakudan in that case (in the real game, it would have ended up in the Graveyard, and its effect wouldn't have gone off), but letting Pegasus get Relinquished back, and with no Equip on it at that (meaning it's free to absorb a monster on Pegasus's next turn even if Pegasus hadn't done the Fusion), seems like a pretty bad idea. For that matter, why bother with the Brain Control at all? When Yami played Mystic Box, Pegasus lets out a Big "NO!" because with Dark Magician no longer attached to Relinquished, Jigen Bakudan would only destroy Relinquished. In other words, the coast was clear. All Yami had to do was wait, and let Jigen Bakudan take out Relinquished in a perfect case of Hoist by His Own Petard.
But then he'd have to wait for Pegasus to put something else in attack mode, which he probably would never do. Jigen Bakudan destroying Relinquished wouldn't do anything to his Life Points. With him still having Relinquished, Pegasus gets lured into trying to attack with it, leaving it in attack mode and thus letting Yami take out his Life Points when he attacks. Yami had a defense for when Pegasus would try to take the Magician of Black Chaos, so he's not worried about that. Pegasus could have switched Relinquished into defense mode when his plan didn't work, but he uses it to fusion-summon Thousand-Eyes Restrict, and because he just summoned it he can't change its position that turn. Yami couldn't know he would do that, but it's worth a shot to try to get him to attack and fail.
After Yami Yugi has summoned Osiris (Slifer) in order to win against Bakura, Marik decides to cheat by using Rishid/Odion, who is posing as him, to use the (fake) Millennium Rod to release Bakura's good half, who is confused and wincing in pain from the injury Marik gave him. Out of concern, Yami Yugi tries to go over to him instead of attacking, but Roland, the referee, tells him not to get closer to Bakura or to continue the duel, or he will be disqualified. Why? Why would you disqualify someone for attempting to assist an obviously injured opponent? And couldn't Kaiba or Mokuba let that slide? Especially since Kaiba clearly wants to duel Yugi later on? Even Joey (obviously) cries foul on this!
I just read the volume of the manga where they start the semi-finals of the battle city tournament, and a question came up: How the hell do they duel on top of a blimp? I know there's a guard rail just in case and that joeys cards get whipped around at one point, and that it's all part of the challenge but there are still quite a few problems with that:1) If they hit turbulence, everyone, especially the duelists and their cards, go flying. 2) It was established they were going at a pretty fast speed, and there are no foot grips or anything so how do the duelists stay standing when they could easily be knocked off. and finally, 3) It's established their high enough up to create a cold windy environment, which is brought up once. Just once. And at that altitude it would be freezing for the crowd too, it would be inhospitable and thus make it near impossible to concentrate. Seriously what was Kaiba on when he designed this, then again he did say he needed to lay off the drugs but still he designs a deathtrap of a theme park and yet he doesn't see all the flaws in this?
Sadly I have the answer to my own question: Rule of Cool meets Dramatic Convenience: As impractical as it is Takashi just did it because it looks badass, and similar problems are present with their previous skyscraper duel but it looks so badass, you don't really care. but it still bugs me a bit though.
Because it was the only place with a big enough space to hold Kaiba's ego?
During Joey's duel with Esper Roba why doesn't Mokuba stop the duel the moment he finds out they are cheating? It's nice and all to be supportive of brothers but it's Mokuba's job to stop that sort of cheating. What would he have done if Esper had won, go over to Joey and say "I'm sorry you lost while I refused to enforce the rules but at least some siblings are happy"?
Espa Roba's brothers count on him as a big brother. Mokuba has a big brother of his own whom he counts on. He feels their pain, so he had to let them off somehow. As he says, "Big brother stories get me every time."
So apparently the viewers are just supposed to accept nepotism and arbitrary rule enforcement?
You're already supposed to accept the fact that rich people can get away with kidnapping and attempted murder...
In the first volumes of the manga, the part where the series features more variety in games, there's always been something I can't figure out. There are at least two instances where the strap that the Millennium Puzzle is on gets broken. One happens when a street thug cuts it off of Yugi's neck to steal it, the other when Yugi grabs the Puzzle back from Imori. What bugs me is that in each of these cases, someone is wearing the Puzzle a few panels later (the thug and the Pharaoh respectively in each situation) and the strap is whole! There is no knot to indicate that the torn/cut ends have been tied together, there's no tape, no glue, or anything else that might be used to mend a broken strap. So how in the world did the strap get fixed so quickly?
I, who work with my hands far too much, wonder the same thing. Possible answer: the strap is not so much a strap and more of a rope/string. If it's as old as the puzzle and from ancient Egypt as well (and the manga seems to imply it is), then it's probably something highly fibrous such as goat hair or plant fibre (probably palm fibre). I know from experience that ropes/strings made out of this kind of thing will simply slide appart if they carry too much weight; a hefty tug will do the trick. But at the same time, a broken string can simply be matted or twisted back together by rolling the two ends in the palms of your hands. This only takes a few seconds and leaves no visible join, so it would be possible that Yugi fixed the Puzzle's cord like this. But it raises another question; if the cord is made of goat hair/plant fibre and is as old as the puzzle, how the hell did it survive 3000 years and near-constant handling without crumbling to dust?!
What purpose would having Odion pretend to be Marik serve for Marik? He wants to win Battle City, and in doing so beat Yugi and get the two god cards. So what purpose does pretending to be benign serve at that point? Considering his entire deck is based around summoning and resurrecting the Winged Dragon of Ra ad nauseum, wouldn't it become obvious to everyone as soon as he dueled? But even if his cover hadn't been blown, what exactly does it gain him?
When Yami Malik faced Yami Bakura and Good Malik, Yami Malik specifically mentioned changing almost all the cards in Malik's deck since taking control. We never get to see what Malik's deck was like before Yami Malik took over and made his alterations, so it's very likely that the good Malik's deck ran with a completely different shtick. The closest we may have come to seeing Malik's original deck is when Yami Malik dueled against Mai, and he didn't seem to opt for the summon and resurrect strategy in that duel at all.
No, that duel was based around using and abusing shadow magic. Which also might have tipped the others off. And even then Mai would have won easily if she didn't tried to summon Ra. His strategy as pretty pathetic, even by the standards of the first series.
You have a point regarding the shadow magic abuse, but I was referring to the fact that the duel between Yami Malik and Mai occurred very soon after Jonouchi's duel with Rishid. So it seems like Yami Malik wouldn't have had a lot of time available to completely restructure the Good Malik's deck to best suit his preferred strategy. Heck, maybe he resorted to abusing shadow magic because he didn't have a chance to rework the deck and it was his way of "compensating."
In the battle city finals duel between Yugi and Kaiba, what difference did the Red Eyes Black Dragon really make? He still would have blocked the first attack with Magician's Selection, lost his Magnet Warrior from the second Blue Eyes, and blocked the final Blue Eyes with Spellbinding Circle. The only thing that would have changed is Kaiba's third attack target (Dark Magician instead of Red Eyes), but the results would have still been the same. It's not like he used the Red Eyes the remainder of the duel anyway.
In the anime the Spellbinding Circle only lowers the attack of the attacking monster by 700, so that attack would have won the duel for Kaiba if the Red Eyes Black Dragon were not there to take the attack. Also, by standing on the field it gives a power bonus to the Dark Paladin.
When Kaiba defeats the Duel Robot in the Battle City arc, it explodes. Why aren't the 3 BEWD cards (& the BEUD) destroyed?
Maybe the cards are made of Unobtainium and therefore indestructible. In the manga, he is able to use a card to block the hammer of a gun to stop one of Pegasus' goons from shooting him point blank.
If that was when it blew up from Obelisk's attack, I thought those were virtual cards. I could be conflating that with the "Kaiba vs. three-god-cards-Yugi" battle simulation from The Movie.
During Battle City tournament, Yami Yugi has two sources of motivation; his first priority is to learn who he is. As the arc goes on he mostly just wants them all to get out alive so that he can keep his promise about dueling Jounouchi in the finals or after the tournament. Okay, so Battle city finally ends, Kaiba blows up Alcatraz, gang stands on top of the blimp and Jounouchi and Yami Yugi put their decks in duel disks. Back to Domino City we go and there's this double page featuring two of them all ready to duel, with the text "Our battle city isn't over!" Chapter ends. Next chapter: flashback to the time Yugi's grandpa found the Millennium Puzzle. Afterwards the memory world starts and no one ever mentions for the rest of the series that Jounouchi and Yami Yugi had a duel. Or that they were supposed to, which is really weird considering half of Yami Yugi's internal monologue that wasn't about card games was revolving around his friend and how he's looking forward to that duel. I've never really watched the second series of YGO seeing that it never aired where I live, so I don't know if this applies to anime or is it just a plothole the manga has. Maybe Kazuki Takahashi was just plain sick of drawing card games at this point that he didn't want to bother anymore, seeing that Jounouchi would have lost anyway. Who knows. It's still really odd how the whole thing was just skipped over like that.
It's the same in the anime. However, I did not think at all that the arc was incomplete, and I certainly wouldn't call it a plothole (maybe an anti-climax). Also, from Jonouchi's POV, it was not about the outcome of the duel, but rather about the duel itself. He didn't want to face Yugi until he became a real duelist. Them facing off at the end means that he accomplished his goal. It doesn't really matter who wins. Personally, I thought it was a great way to end the arc on a positive note.
Actually, the reasoning for the duel was that Jounouchi was going to win the REBD back, right? This troper's understanding was their duel was an ante-game just like in Battle City. In the Millennium arc Jounouchi has his REBD back ... so we can draw the conclusion this was a friendly duel that the Pharaoh actually lost.
Further to the above, despite Yami's almost perfect win record, this isn't impossible considering the roulette nature of Jounouchi's deck. Throw in heart of the cards, and the REBD being the ante and always being Jounouchi's card in spirit, and the Pharaoh losing so the card can be returned makes sense.
As anticlimactic as it is, it's at least consistent. They rarely bother showing the entirety of friendly duels unless something is going to happen (viz. Yami vs. Bakura in Duelist Kingdom). The only thing at stake here is the REBD ante, and they were only playing for that because Jounouchi wouldn't let Yuugi just give the card back to him.
Yugi's duel with Pandora/Arkana has the stipulation that the loser gets their shackled legs cut off by a rapidly spinning, gradually approaching buzzsaw (or gets sent to the Shadow Realm by a rapidly spinning, gradually approaching Dark Energy Disc, if you prefer). That said, how in the hell was either duelist able to hear themselves think, let alone hear their opponent, with one in each ear? The way I understand it, even the ordinary buzzsaw in your tool shed is an assault on your ears; I can't really imagine two giant saws spinning fast enough for a relatively clean slice would be any quieter.
It was probably meant to strain the victim; not let you think calmly as you can hear the buzz saw spinning closer and closer...
Do we ever find out why Dark Malik/Marik knows more about Ra than his normal self? Unlike the other spirits, he's only six and was actually created by Malik/Marik, only breaking out twice as far as we know. That, along with him suggesting that he might be the real Marik sounds like some WMG fodder. And was his normal self aware even of him all this time?
Dark Malik/Marik isn't a spirit invading Marik, he's a Split Personality of Marik. He'd logically share every memory with Marik, since they're still the same person for the most part. Granted, this only explains why he knows what Marik does, not why he knows more.
The reason that Dark Malik "knows" the effects of Ra is because he is able to read all of the text on the card, which is how Kaiba is able to find out all the abilities even before the duel with Jonouchi. As for a reason that Dark Malik could read all the Egyptian text and Normal Malik couldn't — possibly that was part of the Tombkeeper memories that Normal Malik repressed and transferred to his darker self?
Marik/Malik hated his tombkeeper legacy, and thus wouldn't have bothered to learn Ancient Sanskrit past a remedial level. Dark Marik/Malik/Melvin owes his existence to his abusive father, so he didn't neglect his studies.
In the Japanese version, there is English text on Obelisk and Slifer, which mentions needing to Tribute 3 monsters. But the cards were made before Tributes were introduced, and even then, Pegasus didn't make the Tribute mechanic? So what, did the cards update their text to the new rules by themselves?
Tributes existed, just not the concept of Tribute Summoning, so it's possible that if the cards were played before Battle City, tributing 3 monsters would just be considered a cost to summon them. And in any case, the premise is invalid, the actual card writing in the Japanese manga doesn't say anything about having to tribute monsters to summon them. (Obelisk just shows its effect of tributing two monsters to wipe the opponent's field, Slifer shows its effect of depowering opponent's summoned monsters and changing its attack points.)
In Battle City, Joey's last opponent before the finals is Mako. Joey wins and Mako gives up his Fortress Whale along with The Legendary Fisherman. Here's the thing, why did Mako give away his Fortress Whale card? One, he didn't have to, and two, Fortress Whale is a Ritual Monster and since Mako didn't give Joey the Ritual Magic card, there's no way Joey can summon Fortress Whale.
In the manga, it's not a Ritual Monster, just a two-tribute card, so it makes sense to give it to him. The anime changed it and added a Ritual Magic card, but kept Mako giving away only the monster, thus making him look pretty silly. As for why he gave it away in the first place, technically Fortress Whale was Mako's rare card ante of the match. The Legendary Fisherman was only given to Joey because of the meaning behind the card, not because of the tournament.
When Kaiba uses the 'Enemy Controller' Magic card, look at the controller: it has a D-Pad and 3 buttons labeled "A", "B", and "C". Kaiba usually inputs the code "Left Right A B" and Joey later inputs a different code "Up Down Left Right A". Why was a "C" button included if it was never used?
Probably to avoid it looking too similar to an NES controller and risking a copyright suit.
Why don't they ever take cards from defeated Rare Hunters' decks? I can understand not taking the marked cards, since that would potentially brand them as a cheater, but if their minds are trapped in the Shadow Realm (or whatever it is in the Japanese version), who's gonna miss them? They weren't even supposed to be in that tournament to begin with, so a defeated Rare Hunter whose mind is trapped in the Shadow Realm should equal a big cache of super-powered cards up for grabs. You could say it would be stealing, but how do you think the Rare Hunters got their cards to begin with?
In the Yugi vs. Kaiba duel, Yugi gets Slifer on the field, but is afraid to attack XYZ-Dragon Cannon because Kaiba's set card might be the Life Shaver trap. Why didn't Yugi play Pot of Greed before attacking if he was worried about that? If Kaiba's card had been Life Shaver, Slifer would have been reduced to 3000 ATK, which is still enough to destroy XYZ-Dragon Cannon.
In Yami Marik's duel with Yami Bakura, Yami Marik merges with the Winged Dragon of Ra because his body was the representation of his Life Points. However, when he finally duels the Pharaoh, physical manifestations of Yugi and Marik's souls are the representations for their Life Points, so how come Yami Marik is still the one merging with Ra when he gives it his Life Points instead of Marik? Played out logically, that duel is a decent Xanatos Gambit for Yami Marik, because if he loses that just means his good side is gone and now he's all Hyde and no Jekyll. Of course, without the Winged Dragon of Ra he has no chance of winning another duel for the Egyptian God cards, but the whole "destroy Ra with Yami Marik attached to it" plan has no basis.
Even if Yami Marik is the one merged with Ra, how the hell is "De-Fusion" going to separate them!? You don't de-fuse Life Points from a monster.
This drives me crazy. How is it possible that Kaiba never knew Noah existed until that arc? He explicitly mentions watching Gozaburo on TV a fair bit, you'd think the coma/eventual death of an extremely powerful CEO would make the news. And no one ever mentions this to him? Really?
Especially because this could have been easily handwaved. Something like "Okay Mokuba, I knew this guy existed all along but never mentioned him to you because he was dead and stuff and therefore not important." would have sufficed.
Noah died AFTER it was decided that Seto was going to live with them, but BEFORE he actually moved in. I can guess that it was reported on the news about Noah's death the day Seto moved in, and given his hellish life there, it's not unlikely he didn't have time to watch TV or read a newspaper. Either that or Gozuboro didn't want to be reminded of Noah's death and payed off every news company in the world to not report the death, because, let's face it, he really did have that much money.
Less fridge logic, just more a flat out mistake. In a flashback to when they were living in the orphanage, Seto tells Mokuba they would start their own themepark called Kaibaland. This was well before they were adopted.
He was obviously already planning to take over Kaibacorp somehow even in the orphanage.
Well, "Kaiba" can mean "seahorse" in Japanese (Or so I've heard), and in Japanese "seahorse" is somehow synonymous with "young dragon", and considering that Seto has a thing for dragon, it's not entirely impossible that the fact he wanted to name his theme park this was little more than coincidence.
In Noah's Arc, each card in their decks was chosen from the Kaiba Corp database. At this point, all three Egyptian God cards were in the database. Why did nobody pick them? They weren't limitted by rarity anymore, they could each have the triple set.
Highly impractical, since the Egyptian gods require triple sacrifices, and are handicapped in terms of revival from the grave. And even so, a duel finished with one of the gods would have diminished the significance.
Then why didn't only Yugi pick those? you know, having then around all the time and by the final battle, summon all then to the field and blowing the Big Bad.
It could also be that they wanted to avoid the wrath of the gods that would come from using a digital copy of the cards.
After all they all saw what happened to Odion, they probably didn't wanted to try to test it again.
Noah didn't want to allow access to them because they unbalanced the game. As can be seen with his interaction with the Big Five, Noah was real big on fairness. Also, he didn't want to hand Kaiba an enormous advantage when defeating him was the whole point of the exercise.
How does a company thats only worth, at most, less than $20 million with very small profit margins manage to get ahold of $100 million?
Either through illegal means, or because they're just that good.
I know this series is a poster child for the Screw The Rules tropes, but there's a particularly egrigious example that I felt needed to be mentioned. When Yami and Joey duel the Big Five, Lecter summons the Five-Headed Dragon using a ritual card, stating that he has to sacrifice five monsters, each one with a different attribute. He then proceeds to sacrifice all five of his deck masters. This seems to work at first, until you realize that Nightmare Penguin (Krump's deckmaster) and Deepsea Warrior (Gansley's Deckmaster) have the same attribute. In other words, Lecter not only broke the rules, he explicitly stated what they were before doing so. What the hell is up with that?
The dialogue in the Japanese version describes Nightmare Penguin as a Wind monster when the list of sacrificed Deck Masters is read off. Which, since Nightmare Penguin isn't a Wind monster, explains nothing.
But isn't it in the anime?
Seto's big test to prove his worthiness to lead Kaiba Corp. His mission was to turn $10 million into $100 million in one year. He did so by buying a majority stake in a company, then demanding to be bought out at ten times his purchase price, or else he would fire all the company's employees, whom the now minority owner cared deeply enough about to give in. How in the world did that scheme succeed? The idea that said super-protective owner, who apparently had so much surplus cash lying around that paying off Seto's outlandish demand was even possible, would even allow outside investors in his company at all, much less allow someone else to take over majority control, is hard enough to swallow. But why couldn't he have simply used a fraction of that buyout money to start a brand-new company and re-hire everyone Seto fired? It all makes LittleKuriboh's alternative narrative, wherein Seto simply pulled a gun on the company owner, much more plausible by comparison.
It's possible that the old owner owned several companies and had to take resources from all of them to save the one Kaiba took over. Furthermore starting a new company would not be as easy as all that, since the old one may already have control over the market and could continue to do so if Kaiba brought in his own people.
If the old owner owned other companies, why couldn't he have those companies absorb the fired employees? And the "control over the market" argument rather assumes customers would remain loyal to a company name, rather than the people who won their business in the first place.
Even if the company kept its own clients, it would lose the power of its brand name. A new startup would be perceived as new by those who weren't industry insiders even if it had the exact same lineup as a previous company. Not to mention, many of a company's decisions are made by its investors, who typically aren't insiders.
Why did the Big Five and Noah simply not take over the main characters bodies right away? They clearly could do it, and if I was stuck in a prison, I wouldn't set my freedom on winning a card game.
Noah ordered them to play the card game and win, and not cheat during it. It's because he wanted to prove to Gozaburo that he was worthy of being the CEO of Kaiba Corp by besting Kaiba and his friends.
And, at least in the Japanese version, Noah was lying anyway. He wanted to keep Kaiba's allies busy, and the Big Five were convenient dupes for that purpose.
How does beating them at a card game prove that Noah is better at running a buisness?
Logically it wouldn't, but then neither Noah nor Gozaburo is exactly logical (or sane). Noah probably just wants to "beat Kaiba at his own game."
During the Virtual World arc, why did Nesbitt want to duel Shizuka/Serenity besides being the only character who has zero dueling experience? It's also kind of creepy when you remember that the Big 5 members get to take over the bodies of any opponent they defeat.
You said it best- she had zero dueling experience, and she would be the easiest to take out. Alternatively, he could've been baiting Tristan or Duke (much more experienced duelists) to take the fall for her (which worked out in the end.)
Why, WHY is the Virtual World arc placed smack in the middle of the Battle City Finals? Granted, it's this troper's favorite arc but 20+ filler episodes (that roughly span a few hours in universe at most) in a middle of a very important "Save the World" plot? Also, this arc gives Kaiba a lot of really good Character Development culminating in him finally beating his abusive stepfather... only for him to start Wangsting about it again in the next arc after losing to Yugi. Anyone else think this arc would have fit better after Battle City completely?
The anime writers underestimated how long it would take Kazuki Takahashi to finish Battle City, and caught up to him unintentionally. They had to do something to give him time to finish.
In Japan, all shows have 1 new episode a week, all 52 weeks of the year (rather than taking a break for a few months like US television). It's entirely possible that the anime caught up to where the manga was at at the time, and they threw in a filler arc to pass the weeks until the manga could get ahead, and they could continue the main plot. That's exactly why filler arcs exist in any anime based on a manga or video game series.
What would have happened if any of the Characters would have played a Card that gives them pernament Control over an Opponents Deckmaster? Esspecially against a Member of the Big 5 who played as their own Deckmasters.
They would lose if the monster left the field without being replaced (as per Berserk Dragon replacing Five-Headed Dragon). Only Nezbitt summoned himself during a duel, probably for this reason. The rest of the Big Five only "summoned" themselves to summon Five-Headed Dragon. If they had summoned themselves and been controlled they would either be separated from their body (or be unable to duel) and lose, have to attack their own monster/themselves but duel normally.
Why didn't Noah make Marik or Ishizu leave the airship with the other duelists?
Would you want to drag Dark Marik into your tournament?
If I knew who he was, then probably not. But really, doesn't Noah have some sort of camera system that can detect that strange crazy-haired guy standing right on top of the blimp? For that matter, why didn't Ishizu leave? You'd think that with all the weird crap going on inside and outside the airship would tip her off and make her leave her bedroom, wouldn't you? Bakura and Mai were banished to the Shadow Realm and Odion was unconscious, so they have an excuse, but how did Noah miss the other two duelists on the blimp he captured?
How did any of the protagonists from the Nezbitt duel on (except Serenity) know what their Deck Master's ability was when Yugi, Tea and Joey didn't know until their Deck Masters told them?
Why did Yami play the Seal of Orichalcos against Rafael? If he hadn't, he would've lost the duel but nothing was at stake. If neither player uses the seal, the loser can just walk away, soul intact. For that matter, why didn't he just rip up the card to prevent it from being used on anyone?
That was the point Rafael was trying to make. Yami was so obsessed with winning (not to mention really pissed off) that he played the Seal even though he didn't have to.
Actually, didn't Rafael cut down the bridge and then say that the winner would get to leave on a helicopter, while the loser had to stay there (presumably to starve). Then again, my memory of those particular episodes isn't very clear.
It's heavily implied that the Seal takes a person's strongest emotion and uses that to manipulate them.
It's because Yami has never actually been in a no-stales duel before. The concept is alien to him. He MUST win, otherwise something terrible will happen. In Duelist Kingdom, his grandfather would be locked away for good. Battle City, he'd be unable to save the world from Marik/he'd get sent to the Shadow Realm. Virtual World, he'd be trapped there for good. It never occurred to him that he can lose a duel and be completely fine because that's never happened until then. If you compare that to the Ceremonial Battle, where he can lose and be okay, it shows just how far he has actually come. Him playing The Seal still doesn't work, but for a completely different reason.
I always thought the Seal was affecting his mind and forcing him to play it.
He also had that little bit of green stone - it seems to be required and bring out the darker emotions. Not knowing about it, Yami wouldn't have been on guard against that power influencing his emotions.
It's one of the reasons that setup is so obviously filler. They could have had Raphael mention giving him back one of his God cards, or capturing him for Dartz, or SOMETHING, but instead it comes across as an odd no stakes duel in order to lazily set up the conflict.
Yami playing the Seal of Orichalcos against Raphael. He plays Card of Sanctity to draw more cards, but laments that he got nothing... except he drew De-Fusion and Hand Control. De-Fusion would have let him split up Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight into DMG and his dragon, at which point he could just re-fuse them. Better yet, play hand control, make Raphael play Necromancy, tribute two monsters for Dark Magician, play De-Fusion, summon Amulet Dragon, and since you have 8 Spell Cards in your Graveyard, you get a 5300 ATK beatstick. And no Seal in sight. He's the King of Games, how'd he overlook that?
Mai's motivation in the Doma arc. She blamed Joey for letting Marik torture her. Quick question, WHAT ABOUT MARIK? She didn't feel anger towards, you know, the guy who actually tortured her?
Heel-Face Brainwashing, thanks to Dartz and the Seal of Orichalcos. Dartz used the fear inside of her from her earlier Mind Rape, leading her to believe that the nightmares of being abandoned and the possibility of dying should she lose another duel were true, so that she would accept the Seal and become his latest recruit. The Seal of course brings out the worst tendencies out of anyone, which was brutally lampshaded when Yami activated it.
That explains why she wanted revenge, but not against Joey instead of Marik.
Probably Marik never appeared because it was a filler arc with no connection to the series.
Also, the Marik that actually effed her up is already gone. Mai just plain can't get revenge on him for hurting her. Going after Joey/Jonouchi is the next best thing.
In the Fourth Season, after it turns out that Pegasus got his soul taken, Yugi and co. are stuck in America with no way back home. A big to do is raised over the fact that Kaiba is their only way back home. What bothers me is that Pegasus is the one that flew them out. Did he not have the foresight to ensure that their flight was round-trip? The very least he could have done was buy them all tickets back home in advance to give them after he explained everything. Hell, Yugi and his friends could have just explained their situation to Pegasus' staff and gotten back on the plane. Surely his staff wouldn't be that uptight to not fly them back without an explicit say so from a conscious Pegasus, especially if they were clued in to what was going on.
Pegasus probably didn't know how long it take them to finish, and thus, couldn't get tickets for the time they would be leaving. As for his staff, they're a game company, not workers at an airport. Lots of companies in real life wouldn't bother with such a thing, as they would see it as a waste of money. Why should we expect the staff of Industrial Illusions to be any different?
If Atem can control destiny with his will, why didn't he use it against Raphael? Could have saved a lot of angst.
Wasn't he only able to control that power after the Memory Arc? Also, he states that Rafael's bond with his monsters gives him the power to alter destiny as well.
He probably did control his destiny in that duel, as well as pretty much any other duel he's ever been in. (Exodia topdeck, anyone?) It's just that he didn't realize he could do that until after the Millennium World arc.
Why does the Seal of Orichalcos adhere to the rules at the time? Or any rules at all? The Shadow Games makes a certain kind of sense, as all object being sought had to be won semi-honourably. But why does the Seal adhere to a childrens card game instead of just taking their souls? The wielders are clearly cheating, why even bother playing the game? And why those rules? Why doesn't it follow Duelist Kingdom rules instead - i.e, the rules that are still standard for anyone outside the Battle City tournament.
As for the rules, that didn't bug me at all. In my opinion, the duelist kingdom rules were a complete mess. Most of the games were won by things like "Yugi attacked the moon". Not that that wasn't kind of interesting, but the Battle City rules are easier to follow in real life, and Monster Cards with a high attack are less of a Game Breaker.
The rules are superior for people watching, but they're still custom rules Kaiba thought up just for his tournament, that became standard rules in his duel academy. As far as anyone else is concerned, in-universe the Duelist Kingdom rules are the actual rules.
Maybe he programmed the rules into the Duel Disks so that you can't play by the other rules? Or maybe the rules were so well-received that people started playing by them. I'm at a loss, but as I said, I didn't mind.
Well, in the case of Kaiba's programming, in Battle City, Joey tried summoning a high-level monster without a sacrifice, but it didn't work because it didn't follow the rules (this was promptly pointed out to him). So it seems that, yes, Kaiba had programmed them to work under his rules only. As for the seal, it probably follows the rules that either it's user or (if said evil seal has standards) both players decide to use.
This makes no sense. First, Dartz's Duel Disks were custom, possibly arcane things. They would hardly be subject to Kaibas rules. Second, the Seal is so unbelievably unfairly broken, that saying its a fair game is just laughable - the user has such a giant advantage, that only one duelist was able to beat someone using Seal without using the similarly broken Legendary Dragons cards - both times against extremely low level players, and both times only with a card he pulled right out of his ass. If you're going to cheat like that, why even bother with the game?
It's possible the the magic which minds the monster spirits to the card also works on other forms of magic. Once they tried to bring Atlantean magic back into the world, it took the form of trading cards. Same goes for other unrelated forms of magic like the power of the Earthbound Immortals.
Why didn't Dartz and his men ambush Marik and the Rare Hunters to get the god cards without having to go through Yugi?
They might have had a harder time locating Marik, and by the time they did, he was already in the middle of the whole Battle City thing, and that would have made things too complicated. Or they could have been waiting for someone to have all three (Marik never got Obelisk).
If the Seal of Orichalcos isn't a real card, but a fake made by Dartz, why did it work in Yugi's duel disk?
Paradius Corporation had investments in practically every important technology and corporation.
It wouldn't be worth it to Doma. We're talking about tampering with the software and hardware of the pet project of Seto Kaiba, one of the greatest hackers in the world — not to mention the central piece of equipment in a big-money professional sport. And there's no need to do it — Dartz's men just use their own Duel Disks that would accept the card normally. Why would they bother to make the card work in anyone else's? Just so Rafael can prove a point to the Nameless Pharaoh?
So the soulless Weevil falls off a train. How'd he get to the hospital, much less the same one as Rex, much less right next to him?
People checking on a runaway train thats stopped in the middle of the desert follow the tracks until they find Rex and eventually Weevil. Both are taken to the same hospital and treated for what they assume is a coma brought on by dehydration.
Except that Rex wasn't a victim of the train crash; Joey and Tristan carried him along, and then Kaiba arranged for him to be brought to the hospital.
In the Japanese version, Ironheart flat-out states that he found Weevil and took him down to the village. The line may have been cut in the dub.
In the dub, Ironheart claims that only Yami and Tea were present when he investigated the crash. This leaves Yami to reflect that Weevil was incapable of leaving on his own, and Weevil's fate remains a mystery until the hospital scene.
What do Timaeus, Hermos, and Critius do, exactly? I thought they made these weird fusions, but they seem to be able to fuse into any monster (and without needing a fusion card to boot), and they even have fairly consistent effects (Timaeus always fuses with a monster, Critius always fuses with a trap, and Hermos always turns the monster it fuses with into an equip spell). And if this wasn't enough, their rules go and turn into total bullcrap when the three dragons turn into knights.
They are deus ex machinas to counter Dartz's henchmens Deus Ex Machina cards. If you want any kind of consistency, Hermos always fuses with a monster to become an equip card with effects vaguely related to the name of the card it fused with - not the effect - Timaeus fuses with a monster to create an effect monster with an effect completely unrelated to the monster fused to summon it, and the Critius always fuses with a trap card to produce a monster card with effects that somewhat resemble the trap used to summon it, except played out indefinitely and weirdly.
The way the YGO wiki explains it, their effects can be pulled off in a real life, provided you treat the monsters/equip cards they merge into as separate cards.
Who rides into Death Valley, the hottest place in North America, with no water? Yugi riding on a horse without provisions was reckless enough, but Rex and Weevil qualify as Too Dumb to Live for doing it on a bicycle.
In 10,000 years, no one finds it the slightest bit weird that Dartz is immortal?
Dartz could've discovered a way to alter his appearance. People then would've assumed that he was just one of a long lineage of apocalyptic prophets known as Dartz.
Kaiba creates a tournament? Nothing new. He's too busy to participate? Fair enough. But why is the grand prize a chance to duel Yugi? Kaiba went a little berserk when he heard Yugi lost a duel in the Oricalcos arc, so why would he go and give some of the top duelists in the world a chance to do just that?
Why did Kaiba invite Joey? It's clear that Kaiba has no respect for him, and thinks of him as a weak duelist, so why would he invite him to a tournament where he wanted to bring only the top duelists from around the world?
Answer to both questions; Kaiba wanted to use Yugi's image to promote the tournament, and he knew that Yugi couldn't be beat by anyone since even Kaiba himself couldn't beat Yugi.
He invited Joey because, for once, the tournament didn't have any stakes to it. If he chose not to invite Joey then Yugi wouldn't be happy.
The relationship between Yami Bakura/Zorc/Thief Bakura/Good Bakura is really confusing and inconsistent between adaptations. Are Thief Bakura and Yami Bakura the same guy? In the manga and anime, Yami Bakura identifies himself as having been a thief in ancient Egypt since his first appearance. However, it is eventually revealed that Yami Bakura was actually Zorc the whole time. So why did he take Thief Bakura's identity? The anime shows Bakura merging with Diabound to form zorc, but the manga just reveals that thief Bakura was a servant of zorc. And lastly, what does good Bakura have to do with all of this? Can anyone explain?
For better or worse, I think what has to be kept in mind is that what we see in the Millenium World arc is not a completely accurate reflection of what actually happened. Also, apparently, but maybe that was mostly about the Kisara/Seto part, the story was supposed to go a bit differently. As for what good Bakura has to do with all of this, no explanation is offered, but I suppose the fact that he's writing letters to his dead sister may have something to do with why he's a suitable carrier of a Millenium artifact. However, I'm not entirely sure if the "dead" part is fanon or canon or just something that appears in the Toei anime.
Honestly it depends if Bakura's habit of writing to his sister was a sign of craziness or simply a way of coping with his loneliness. I think you're right in saying that it was an RPG based loosely on the past. Perhaps the writers just changed thier minds about making Bakura a background villain to Zorc. Early video games show a guy named Darknite who has Ahknadin's face and Shadow Magus' armor as the main villain of the ancient Egypt arc.
From what I get, Yami Bakura was first a fragment of Zorc embedded onto the Millennium Ring. When Thief King Bakura stole it, the fragment decided to mimic his spirit-thus resulting in a new being who's soul was Zorc, and who's memories were Thief King Bakura. The soul later reincarnated as Ryo Bakura.
The manga explains that Dark Bakura is a combination of both the Thief King and a Zorc fragment. Their souls combined after being sealed in the Millennium Ring, and it's implied that the Thief King acted on his own free will the whole time. Where the normal Bakura fits in this, I have no idea.
Sorry if this is answered elsewhere obvious, but in the Millennium World story (the dub at least), how is Yami Bakura both Zorc and the Thief King? Was he a combination or what?
It's been a while since I've seen that, but if I remember right then Zorc and the Thief King were originally seperate entities when everything happened the first time around. (When the Pharaoh was actually alive, not when he was reliving it as a RPG.) I think, sometime near the end of the battle/events, the Thief King merged his soul/spirit with Zorc to gain more power to destroy the pharaoh. Or they just ended up getting stuck together when Atem sealed them both away.
I believe Thief King was a citizen of Kul Elna trying to avenge his people by summoning Zork, who bore the hatred of the people used to create the Millenium Items. Presumably the first time 'round, he succeeded in doing that on his own, without Yami Bakura causing a Diabolous Ex Machina. From there, Things probably went as the above poster said, and the resultant combination of Zorc and Thief King Bakura was Yami Bakura.
My theory is that Thief King summoned Zorc to avenge Kul Elna. They aren't the same person and never actually merged, Zork though possessed Thief King and actually repressed him. There's a part in the Millenium World story where Zork stops controlling him and he sounds and acts differently then he was. Furthermore the spirit of the ring is only Zorc, Thief King's soul is in the ring too, but like before, its repressed.
Remember that the manga and anime continuities are completely different. The original manga implies that Dark Bakura is a merge of the Thief King and Zorc (with Zorc being dominant - everyone who Zorc infects essentially becomes Zorc). The anime adaptation has him being just Zorc.
The fact that Ryou Bakura barely reacted to not being possessed any longer. Maybe I skipped the important blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment, but assuming that he was possessed 90% of the time, shouldn't this have been a big deal? Shouldn't this elicit any kind of reaction?
He spends the several days that it took to finally kill Zorc outside the illusion - he probably adjusted to it then, off camera.
Well actually, he's not outside the illusion: in the manga, he's still possessed during this time by Yami Bakura when they're playing the RPG, and in the anime, he's sort of... passed out on the floor, and he doesn't regain consciousness until the game ends. And then he passes out again due to starvation. Would you accept him finally getting to eat something as a reaction?
The manga has a one month Time Skip between the Shadow RPG and the Ceremonial Battle. Bakura had plenty of time to get used not being possessed anymore.
On the same vein as above, in the manga after Battle City is said and done, Yugi has the Millennium Ring, and hides it from Bakura (which is a VERY good thing). But then why does Bakura have to go out of his way to try and find it and then PUT IT BACK ON?! This has bugged me for a LONG time, since Bakura knows Yami Bakura is in there (he has at least two on-screen conversations with him), and so he has to know what's going to happen when he puts in on. I mean, does YB have the power to wipe the memory of himself from Bakura? Please, someone come up with a better explanation than that.
I assume you're going by the manga? Because in the anime, it appears that YB haunts him, and then there's this slightly creepy scene in the church... Anyway, back to the manga. As for the memories, I think it's less of a power to wipe memories, but rather that he doesn't allow him to be conscious at the same time. It was similar with Yami and Yugi, in the beginning. Yugi had no idea what was going on. During Death-T, he finally confesses to his friends that he loses his memories from time to time, and that there is "something" inside of him that scares the hell out of him. Also, Yami tells Anzu not to tell Yugi about their visiting the museum, which means that Yugi was probably somewhere "asleep" in his own spirit room, or something like that (voluntarily, in this case.) As for Ryou putting the Ring back on, it seems that it controls him even if he doesn't wear it. During Duelist Kingdom, he doesn't actually put it on (the others rightfully freak out when they realise that he brought it with him in the first place), but Yugi notices that he zones out when he holds the ring in his hands. I think it can kinda be assumed that the spirit somehow transferred a part of his soul to Ryou (just like he transferred a part of his soul into the puzzle) to make sure he can control him even when the ring is lost.
But you're right, it is quite problematic that Ryou KNOWS that the spirit is evil. Maybe that WMG about Ryou being the most evil character is right? My theory is that the spirit somehow (after kind of bonding with the gang in the manga) convinced him that he wasn't evil (anymore), and, just like Yami, he only wanted to regain his memories.
He only voluntarily takes it back in the manga (in the anime, he takes it back after being re-possessed). If I recall correctly, Ryou's conversations with Bakura in the post-Monster World manga generally consist of Bakura claiming he's 'changed' and 'wants to help'. If Ryou's as gullible as the rest of the cast (which is entirely possible), that's a plausible enough explanation for him taking back the ring; his normal form can't 'help' as much as Bakura can. I also think the theory about Bakura leaving a bit of his soul in Ryou could be true; considering how Crazy-Prepared Bakura tends to be, it seems like the kind of thing he'd do in case Ryou lost the ring.
My theory is that the Items have an effect on their users that makes them keep them. Yuugi is uncomfortable in the manga loaning the Puzzle to a museum for one day, and refuses to leave without it. This is even before he knows about his other self. He flatly refuses to leave the Puzzle in a fire even though it might have cost him his life (he even ended up in the hospital afterwards). It's not a stretch to think that the Ring - even without Yami Bakura's influence - could have a similar effect on Ryou.
What the heck were Thief King Bakura's followers, anyway? Where did they come from? Why are their eyes glowing? Why do they look like zombies? If they are zombies, how did he resurrect zombie henchmen?
My best guess is they're some of the souls of Kul Elna giving him a hand? How on earth he got them to be solid I have no idea (maybe they aren't, and they're just an illusion? I don't know, did any of them actually touch a character?), but them being the dead souls sounds good.
I like to think that they were some sort of ancient Egyptian ReDeads that Bakura managed to enslave or domesticate. Similarly, the mummy creatures from the Pyramid of Light movie were Gibdos.
When Yugi and his friends found the pharaoh's name, there was only one cartouche in the tomb. Egyptian queens only had one cartouche, but all Egyptian kings had two cartouches, kind of like how most people today have a first and last name. And also, Egyptians did not write down vowels. (The "ah" sound was combined with a guttural sound for which there is no English equivalent, but it was treated as a consonant, as was the "ee" sound.) So Yugi had no way of knowing if Atem's name was missing some letters. If they technically found only half of Atem's name shouldn't he have been unable to stop Zorc?
Yugi showed Atem the Hyeroglyphs and Atem was able to read it, because he's egyptian. I don't know why that's so hard to guess.
I think his point wasn't about him reading it but rather that part of it was literally not available to be read. But to answer, if it works like a first and last name like you said, then it's possible that only the first name was necessary.
Somewhat related to my above entry, if Atem was able to use his name to invoke forces powerful enough to stop Zorc, then why didn't he just destroy Zorc in the first place rather than sealing himself and Zorc away for thousands of years? It would have saved a lot of trouble, and by not destroying Zorc in the first fight it seems Atem took a huge and seemingly (to me at least) out of character gamble. Bakura/Zorc basically points out during the Memory World arc, "You idiot, you can't even remember how you beat me the first time!" And then the only thing that guaranteed that Yugi would find his name was rule of plot, not to mention Yugi couldn't even read Egyptian hieroglyphics on top of the fact that Egyptians had a nasty habit of not writing down the letters they considered to be vowels. And then he had to find the pharaoh in the mess and confusion of battle to actually give him the name.... There were so many little things that had to go exactly right in order for Atem to beat Zorc, otherwise all he did was delay the end of the world by not destroying Zorc 3000/5000 years ago.
His name probably only had that much power in the game world.
First, he didn't have enough power to summon Horakty the first time around. In the memory world, he had his friends with him. Also, it doesn't matter how many vovels a written language is missing, if you're a native speaker of that language, you can read it. Yugi didn't read the name from the cartouche, he showed Atem the picture of exactly what he saw, and Atem read it. Makes perfect sense to me.
While Atem may be a native speaker, he doesn't get his memories back the instant he goes into the memory world and it's been 3000 (or 5000 if you go by the dub) years since he's last needed to read his native language. If I recall correctly, in the Japanese version when Malik showed Atem his back after Battle City, Atem remarked in a voice over/thinking to himself "I have no idea what this says." Or something to that effect and he only figured it out because the placement of the Egyptian Gods was the same as the stone he'd seen at the museum. This kind of makes it seem like those years of boredom he spent stuck in the puzzle caused him to forget how to even read his own language.
In the manga, Horakty comments that his name is the 'spell to drive back the shadows' and it's heavily implied several times that the Pharaoh is some kind of demigod. Whether or not he knew the names of the Egyptian Gods originally is debatable, as (also in the manga) Bakura speaking to his past self implies that he was meant to defeat the Pharaoh during the battle between Slifer and Diabound in the city. In other words, the Pharaoh must have been able to summon the Gods in the past to survive the first Diabound battle in the palace. However, it takes Horakty, i.e. the union of the Gods, to defeat Zorc. In other words, the Pharaoh being godly wasn't enough- he needed the unity of the Gods. It makes sense that he needed his future friends to do this, as he only realised the Puzzle's true power was of unity when in the future (in Millennium World he still has his future memories). Perhaps originally he was too concerned with protecting his country to want to put his priests at risk to inspire this power. At the very least, Yugi is implied to be the personification of hope and goodness, the balance to the Pharaoh, if not the representation of the inner goodness within Atem. I.e. the potential was there, but as Horakty says, his friends were the keys to bringing it out.
Or, since the darkness is born of people's hearts, as Zorc says in the manga, it can never really be defeated. Atem had sealed the darkness using himself as the key in the past. He was then fighting just to prevent Bakura winning the game- and since his name technically defeated Zorc in the real world, he needed it to do it again. By winning the game he prevents Bakura resurrecting Zorc in the real world.
Why in the world were the priests wasting time trying to take out Diabound instead of just killing Bakura. I spotted at least a dozen instances in which Bakura could have been killed, sparing everyone so much trouble...
The first time Bakura showed up, the priests had never fought anyone powerful enough to stop them from just sealing the opponent's Ka. Also if they're not attacking Diabound then Diabound is free to blast them. And Diabound was shown several times to be faster than they are.
Why did Yami Bakura need to know the pharaoh's name? At first it seemed like he needed the name in order to free Zorc, but he freed Zorc before he found the name in the game, and if he'd won the game, than Zorc would be free, name or no name. It seems like the only one who needed the name was the pharaoh.
He didn't. He initially thought it was the key to releasing Zorc/himself (and the fragment of his soul presumably never learned otherwise), but the only thing he really needed was access to the Pharaoh's memories.
Have to disagree on that- he did need the name, so he could open the door to the afterlife in the real world using the items and free the 'shadow power' on the other side, as he said in the manga. Winning the game would keep the Pharaoh out of the wayso he could do that, and unleash the real Zorc.
After all that time he spent with them, why didn't Ryuji/Duke come with Yugi and co. to the museum/Egypt in the last arc? He even complained about not being invited in the anime.
In the Millennium World manga/anime, why doesn't anyone move their ka's around more, to try to dodge attacks, and the like? They may be dueling, but they're not playing a card game, and trying to dodge and block would make more sense then letting your monster just float there, waiting to get hit by an attack that you know is going to hurt.
For starters, none of them are exactly well trained in fighting with Ka - Thief King Bakura's first appearance is the first real fight involving Kas. Everything previous was a Curbstomp Battle either through the Millenium Items sealing away the opponent's Ka, or blasting Ka-less people. Secondly, presumably making your Ka move in a complicated manner requires more concentration than just having him stand there. Thirdly, they usually are protecting something or other which restricts their movements. (The Priests were protecting the Pharaoh, the Pharaoh was protecting his father's remains then the people, etc.)
If Blue Eyes White Dragon is Kisara, then what would that make the Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon?
The White Dragon God, like in Egypt?
As there isn't a Ceremonial Duel section, I'll ask this here: How did the Pharaoh lose? His hand still contained four cards. Best case scenario (for Yugi/Silent Magician LV 5), one of these were Kuriboh, a monster yet to appear in that Duel. Worst case scenario, it was BLS - Envoy of the Beginning, a monster the highly similar [[Anime/Yu-Gi-Oh GX GX Tour Deck]] shows him to have. Even if neither card were among those four, that still leaves four cards at the Pharaoh's disposal. How could none of them prove of any use?
So in Millennium World there was such a thing as magic- both good and bad people alike could summon ka, the reflection of their souls. So why is Atem, supposedly the most powerful character, unable to summon a creature without his Puzzle? Does this apply to the other priests? Mana is clearly able to summon Dark Magician Girl with no item. True, the Pharaoh gains Mahad as a protector but only because the latter sacrificed himself. Or is this also something to do with his name also? Is his real ka Horakty and he needed to remember his name to pull this one off?
Probably has something to do with the fact that he was also injured at the time he didn't have the Puzzle- summoning requires energy. Instead, his 'will to fight' calls Mahad.
In the manga (possibly not in the anime), it is revealed that Seto cheated to win the chess match against Gozaburo which led to his and Mokuba's adoption. Which begs the question: HOW DOES ONE CHEAT AT CHESS??? The only two ways I can think of (performing an illegal move and switching pieces around when one's opponent isn't looking) would never succeed against a player of world-class skill, which Gozaburo is clearly stated to possess. Did he read his mind?? HOW DID HE DO IT?? (The cheating was probably put in to illustrate Seto's desperation to get himself and Mokuba out of the Orphanage of Fear and his determination to win at all costs, as well as to provide the moral Cheating Is Bad ("Now remember kids, if you cheat, you will be subjected to years of constant and systematic child abuse..."), but STILL. Has Kazuki Takahashi ever played chess??)
That's why the dub pulls a Woolseyism on this scene: instead of being claimed to cheat at his chess game with Gozaburo, Seto instead won simply by studying Gozaburo's chess strategies, which is much more reasonable.
Even though I believe that Takahashi really wrote cheated (as it appears in the German version too, unless it's a translation of the American version), it's possible that he meant "tricked him", as in "tricked him into thinking that he was a weak opponent when he actually wasn't".
There are ways to cheat in chess. If Gozaburo underestimated Seto, the later could've pulled an illegal move (like intentionally put his own king in check) without Gozaburo noticing. It's all about psychology.
Also, Seto could have found a way to sneak some kind of assistance during the game, like having a hidden chess computer giving him moves.
Here's the big question: Why don't they just shoot Yugi and get over it?!?
Because of the Puzzle, basically.
Apparently the Puzzle can produce some sort of protective shield- in an early manga chapter, using its power caused a die thrown at his forehead to break in half, and there's also what happened in his duel against the Player Killer of Darkness in Duelist Kingdom.
That was fast. Then would the puzzle had protect Yugi from the spinning saws in the case he lost?
Atem was a bit of a Reality Warper back when the shield happened. It was probably either a temporary thing, or an illusion to fuck with his opponent's head. He loves doing that.
Actually in that manga chapter the die made a cracking noise, like it hit something solid, and once it fell away it was revealed that Atem had actually used the Millennium Puzzle to block the die. The die cracked because it hit the tip of the puzzle.
Because even if they did just shoot Yuugi and try to take the Puzzle, the Puzzle would not let them. It's shown (in the manga at least) that Atem is capable of creating illusions/hurting people/generally using magic even inside the Puzzle. For whatever reason, I don't think he'd be willing to go happily with someone who murdered Yuugi.
In the manga, there's at least two instances of Atem being able to take control of Yugi's body even if Yugi's soul has been trapped in something else. One instance was a soul eating jar, the other was Bakura's lead miniature. And in both the manga and the anime, Atem is perfectly able to stand up and continue the duel with Pegasus even after the strain of the Shadow Game caused Yuugi to collapse. So unless the gunshot physically crippled the body they share, shooting Yuugi would probably do nothing more than bring the wrath of the Pharaoh down upon your head. Even then I'm not sure how safe you'd be from a crippled and pissed off Atem...
Also, there's the one chapter with that "medium" who wanted to rape Anzu. He sends off Yugi to the library, where he has planned a trap for him. In the last second, Yugi deciphers the meaning of the "premonition" the guy told him earlier. The bookcases fall, but Yugi (or rather Yami Yugi) stands in the exact same spot, thinking that this was close, and if he had noticed only a little bit later... IMO, this implies that he can shield his body with his puzzle, but maybe only outside of games? Or when the plot demands it?
I was always under the impression that Yami just calmly sidestepped the bookshelves at the last possible moment, since Yugi was standing near the end of one of the falling ones. Although in the anime's version (sub and dub) of the duel with Panik, Yami DOES use the puzzle to shield himself from the flamethrowers.
I believe this is because the puzzle has to be 'won', not stolen. So if even if you get past the pharaoh and the magic of the puzzle and manage to kill Yuugi, you wouldn't be able to harness its power because it was not won in a proper battle (I think Marik explained this once), you stole it instead from the cold fingers of a dead boy.
This is canon according to (at the very least) the English Duelist Kingdom anime and Millenium World manga, as well as the Duelist Kingdom callback episode somewhere around the time of Battle City where Bandit Keith tries to kill Yugi only after he fails in winning the puzzle for his puppeteer.
This wasn't in the manga, but it was in the anime and it pissed me off: When Bakura stole the Millennium Eye, Shadi turns up, thinks Yugi did it and went in his mind. Thing I don't get is, when he realised it wasn't Yugi who did it, why didn't he stick around and keep looking for the culprit? If he'd have just followed Yugi for a bit, he'd have seen Bakura and realised that he was the only one who could have committed the crime. Instead, he just buggers off back to wherever the hell he came from, having achieved nothing. Also, if he's meant to be so creepily all-knowing (they showed earlier in that episode that he knew stuff about Pegasus that he shouldn't have been able to know), why didn't he know it was Bakura anyway? I know they were trying to fit a "season 0" plot into the series so we'd know who Shadi was, but it still irritates me.
I'm guessing that after Shadi went into Yugi's mind, he realised that it wasn't a simple matter of the Millennium Eye being stolen, but of destined events playing out. Similar to the Toei anime and manga where his initial reaction to Yugi having the Millennium Puzzle is to try and take it from him. When he realises that Yugi can use its power, he understands that it is meant to belong to him.
Same troper as above, and this is another adaptation of season 0 that annoys me. During the duel against Bakura in Duelist Kingdom, they make a big thing about one of the heroes having to be sacrificed to get rid of the Man Eater Bug. Incredibly sad, I'm sure. But then, it's Yugi's turn. Why doesn't he just summon another monster and sacrifice that?
Did we see his hand? Perhaps he didn't have another monster?
The actual text of Man-Eater Bug allows the owner to destroy any of their opponent's monster cards on the field when Man-Eater Bug is flipped. Even if Yugi had played a crap monster to attack Man-Eater Bug, Bakura would have chosen to take out any of the other monsters in play anyway. The effect doesn't apply to whatever monster attacks Man-Eater bug.
The sacrifice wasn't so much as too attack the Man-Eater Bug, as it was a sacrifice to activate the Horn of Heaven card, which in the real game at least requires a sacrifice in order to activate. Though that still leaves the question of whether or not Yugi had another monster card in his hand.
At that point, he had already put four of his friends into the game. He was probably worried that he might accidentally play himself if he played another monster.
He had a Magician of Faith face down. If any of his other friends were sent to the graveyard, he could revive them by using Magician of Faith's effect to bring Monster Reborn back from the graveyard and play it. However, if Magician of Faith were destroyed, there would be no way to get Anzu back. Whether he let the Man-Eater Bug activate its effect or played his Horn of Heaven, he'd lose a monster either way, but by playing the Horn of Heaven, he got to choose the monster instead of Bakura, insuring that it wouldn't be Magician of Faith.
Bakura's actions in that duel are also bizarre. In the last turn, immediately before he plays Change of Heart in order to (so he thinks) take control of Yugi/Dark Magician, he summons a normal monster in defense mode. This is pointless, because if he had just attacked with Dark Magician, he would have won without needing any other attacks (and his monster was in defense mode anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered). Because he did this, Ryou/Change of Heart note don't ask how Ryou could possess a Spell Card... takes control of his own monster, costing Bakura the duel. If he had just played Change of Heart and attacked, he would have won. The writers kind of wrote themselves into a corner with that one.
Regarding the same situation as mentioned above, I was always confused as to why Pegasus never forewarned Yugi and co. about Bakura. I know he dies in the manga, so there they have no way of knowing, but in the anime, he is very much alive and could have contacted Yugi privately at any given time to discuss the whole deal. I suppose it was all just really irresponsible writing on part of the anime, but hell, would it have been so hard to slip that in at some point? If they can go the whole fucking DOMA arc with directions and clues to defeating Dartz and Paradias and whatnot, then at some point Pegasus can say, "Oh yeah, Yugi-boy, by the way, your pale-skinned, sometimes-evil, antisocial friend tore my Millenium Eye out and then went on his merry way. Take care!" It wouldn't really make much sense, but at least there'd be consistence of some sort. I am forced to believe that either the writers of the anime wanted to imply that the shock of having an eye torn out of its socket for the second time in his life caused him enough trauma to forget what led to the event, or they thought we'd all be stupid and forget that little detail.
Bakura had demonstrated before the ability to erase people's minds using his Millennium Ring.
The timeline. Pegasus met Cecilia when he was 12, at 18 they were married, and she developed a terminal illness. Distraught, Pegasus roamed the earth, coming to Egypt, got his Millennium Eye and created Duel Monsters. 6 years later, when he's 24, the series begins. Okay, but 6 years before the series began, when Seto Kaiba was 12 (or 10 in the Japanese, but that just further complicates things), he was heavily into the game, with his cards being the only thing that got him through Gozaburo's torture. So that would put him being a huge fan of the game at the point when Cecilia was either dying or recently dead, and Pegasus had yet to create the game.
To give a very stupid answer, Kaiba is a Time Lord and he's played the game for his entire life. Course, even though it explains his extreme obsession with the game, it does cause many different plot holes....
Maybe Pegasus lost the ability to keep track of time properly after getting the Millennium Eye, or something.
If Kaiba despises his stepfather so much, why does he keep his name instead of just using his old name? He must have known it when he went to the orphanage. And why does he continue to glorify the name by keeping his company named Kaibacorp and building Kaibaland? Even if you don't despise the previous CEO, changing company name is just good sense when shifting focus.
Well, it's possible that by making the Kaiba name associated with him instead of his stepfather and the company name associated with games instead of weaponry, he's achieving a "victory" against his stepfather.
Exactly. Seto took the name of Kaiba away from him.
I was just chatting with a friend, and we realized there are multiple scenes in both the manga and anime where Yugi/Yami end up lying face down on the ground, with the Millennium Puzzle underneath them. I've had to lay on top of objects before, and it's not the most pleasant position in the world. But when it's seen in the manga/anime, Yugi looks as if he's laying flat on a bed without the slightest bit of discomfort of a chunky metal object being pressed into his chest/abdomen by the weight of his body on top of it. How is that possible?
In case you haven't noticed, the weight of his body isn't a terribly large amount.
Maybe not, but he certainly weighs more than a feather. I'm short and not that heavy either so I'm usually the one who has to crawl into tight places around the house, but if I end up having to lay down on top of something with an edge on it, I'm uncomfortably aware of it. And the puzzle definitely has distinct edges rather than rounded ones...
All the times I've seen it, the Millennium Puzzle miraculously swings very left or very right, so Yugi/Yami doesn't suffer pain to their bodies when the Puzzle ends up to his side and not under him.
The fact that Kaiba changed outfits before going to rescue Mokuba, who had been kidnapped by Bakura, doesn't really bug me, but I think it's just incredibly silly. Am I to assume that he has a secret wardrobe in his office where he stores his duel attire, just in case someone challenges him between important meetings? Does the outfit make him feel stronger? Seriously, what the hell. "Sorry, Mokuba, I'm too late and the bad guy almost killed you, but I really HAD to put on my lucky coat."
I always thought the purple coat was more of a housecoat than a going-outside coat. Also, the other coat has gadgets and possibly body armor in it.
He was wearing his white suit, not the purple coat. And even if, it was a dangerous situation for his brother; unless he was naked, he should have just stormed out. But I guess I can live with the "gadget and body armour" argument.
He has a Batman style elevator that lets him change clothing on the way. After all he needs to be ready to duel at the drop of a hat, and it wouldn't be the first time someone had decided that the fate of Kaiba Corp depended on a duel.
Why the HELL did Joey's parents have a Solomon Divorce? It was obvious that Joey loved his sister, and that it really hurt him to be separated from her. Adding to that, his dad was a drunk and a gambling addict (which I'm going to assume was the reason for the divorce). Why leave a child in that kind of environment? Did she have some kind of vendetta against her son or something? Why the hell would she leave her own son in such an obviously abusive environment?
Values Dissonance. As far as I know, in Japan, the elder child stays with the father, the younger with the mother. I don't know if that has a legal or traditional basis, but unless there's a very good reason for both children to stay with one parent, they don't. Yes, an alcoholic gambler could be considered a good reason, but we don't know if he was one before. Sadly, we don't find out nearly enough about his family. Or anyone's family (including Yugi's!)
Go to the comics. Take a close look at the players' hands, the way those hands handle the cards. Instead of putting the cards on the Duel Disk, they seem to be magically dropping the cards straight to the field. What?
Probably just drawing inconsistency.
In the Anime, is it ever explained why Yami didn't just Mindcrush Duke's Cheerleaders? They were insulting and physically assaulting Joey the entire time the duel was going on and the gang just let's them off without a word? What the Hell, Hero??
It probably helps if you learn how the magic in this series works. He didn't beat them in a game ("Mind Crush" is a Penalty Game - which, bar the anime's own Adaptation Induced Plotholes, you can only give Penalty Games to losers of games - particularly Shadow Games). And mind crushing would probably be Disproportionate Retribution anyway.
It still makes one wonder why Tristan or Tea didn't do anything about it. Deal or not, one of their best friends is being harassed and taunted by a bunch of obnoxious girls, and they're not even going to say one word of protest against it? Even if he wasn't allowed to do physically anything about it, Tristan could've at least said something like "Don't make me come over there!", just to shut them up.
Just read the manga version of this arc. It's actually completely different, and none of the characters let it get to that point. Jonouchi (Joey) keeps his dignity.
This might be explained in the manga, but I've only seen the anime and I have to wonder... okay, so at the very beginning of the series, Seto challenges Solomon Motou for his Blue-Eyes White Dragon card and, after getting it he tears it up so it can never be used against him. But... why bother? The fourth Blue-Eyes was in the care of an old man who was A) not a professional duelist anyway, and B) considered the card to have too much sentimental value to use it. If Seto had just left it alone Mr. Motou would have kept it in that little wooden box that no one was allowed to touch and Seto would never have had to worry about it being used against him!
Well, it's a matter of principle. Also, inevitably, eventually the card would have fallen in Yugi's possession (because Grandpa Mutou probably won't be living that much longer.) In the manga, Kaiba also acquired and destroyed all other copies of the card.
Basically, the first half and second half of Episode 1 are very far apart from each other in the manga. In the manga, Seto tried to get Solomon's card before he got the other three. Yami Yugi turned the Blue Eyes against him and made him envision his own death. So Seto set out to get revenge, and may have held a grudge against that particular copy of the card.