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** Probably she just wanted to finish the race in her own kart.
*** Which Felix would have fixed after they no longer had an apocalypse caused by a mass invasion of BigCreepyCrawlies to deal with.
** Actually, if you [[http://i0.wp.com/screencaps.us/201/2-wreck-it-ralph/full/wreck-it-ralph-disneyscreencaps.com-10243.jpg look]] [[http://turntherightcorner.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/wreck-it-ralph-sugar-rush-crumbelina-di-caramello.jpg closely]] it's Crumbelina Di Caramello's kart.
*** Which Felix would have fixed after they no longer had an apocalypse caused by a mass invasion of BigCreepyCrawlies to deal with.
** Actually, if you [[http://i0.wp.com/screencaps.us/201/2-wreck-it-ralph/full/wreck-it-ralph-disneyscreencaps.com-10243.jpg look]] [[http://turntherightcorner.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/wreck-it-ralph-sugar-rush-crumbelina-di-caramello.jpg closely]] it's Crumbelina Di Caramello's kart.
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** Probably If you look closely, it’s actually one of the other racers’ karts that she just wanted uses to finish save Ralph, specifically the race in her own kart.
*** Which Felix would have fixed after they no longer had an apocalypse caused by a mass invasion of BigCreepyCrawliesone that belongs to deal with.
** Actually, if you [[http://i0.wp.com/screencaps.us/201/2-wreck-it-ralph/full/wreck-it-ralph-disneyscreencaps.com-10243.jpg look]] [[http://turntherightcorner.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/wreck-it-ralph-sugar-rush-crumbelina-di-caramello.jpg closely]] it'sCrumbelina Di Caramello's kart.Caramello. She could have borrowed it from wherever it was left when the game was abandoned. The kart she’s driving on the side of the console is the one King Candy uses — because he stole it from her when he took over.
*** Which Felix would have fixed after they no longer had an apocalypse caused by a mass invasion of BigCreepyCrawlies
** Actually, if you [[http://i0.wp.com/screencaps.us/201/2-wreck-it-ralph/full/wreck-it-ralph-disneyscreencaps.com-10243.jpg look]] [[http://turntherightcorner.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/wreck-it-ralph-sugar-rush-crumbelina-di-caramello.jpg closely]] it's
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** Every character in Sugar Rush has some ability they can use when they collect sugar cubes - you can see in WIR's epilogue that Moppet Girl has collected 3 at the top of the screen and spends one to make Vanellope glitch across the finish line. They're not really item boxes in the Mario Kart sense, as they don't dispense items (in the movie anyway; the browser games make them item boxes for simplicity's sake). We only see Vanellope in the Random Roster Race before she's restored to being a regular character and she's still able to teleport/glitch without the sugar cubes, so it looks like she might have been overpowered/"broken" before being brought in line with normal game mechanics.
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*** To address both: Vanellope choosing to be a president instead of a princess neatly references a part of her personality that often gets overlooked: she's very forgiving, with Ralph and others. She finally had the opportunity to have absolute power over people who had bullied her for fifteen years, but instead she decides to rule a democratic government where her former bullies even get a say in how the game is run. And it's not exactly unusual for her to declare herself president (or first president, at least) because she was supposed to be the game's leader anyway, so nobody objected. It's not to pander/half-ass some government commentary in, it's just a bit of character elaboration. As for the situation in RBTI, it's not that she did a 180 turnaround and said "ooh I wanna be a princess instead of a president now", it's more that the higher-ups wanted an one-scene excuse for virtual avatars of the princesses to be inserted into the movie, so they played up the princess angle with Vanellope to justify her interacting with them (the crew has dropped hints that they had comparatively little creative freedom from Disney with RBTI and [[https://www.thewrap.com/ralph-breaks-the-internet-director-rich-moore-to-join-sony-pictures-animation/ weren't happy about it]]).
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* So yes, it's nice that they subverted the whole EverythingIsBetterWithPrincesses trope and showed that little girls can be happy and have dreams without wanting to be the pretty princess. That said... am I the only one that found the whole "I'll be President instead of Princess" to be so out-of-nowhere and hamfisted? Like, here's some things:
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* So yes, it's nice that they subverted the whole EverythingIsBetterWithPrincesses trope and showed that little girls can be happy and have dreams without wanting to be the pretty princess. That said...GratuitousPrincess trope.. am I the only one that found the whole "I'll be President instead of Princess" to be so out-of-nowhere and hamfisted? Like, here's some things:
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** ''Disney/RalphBreaksTheInternet'' shows that Vanellope apparently did a 180 in-between movies and decided to be a princess after all.
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** ''Disney/RalphBreaksTheInternet'' ''WesternAnimation/RalphBreaksTheInternet'' shows that Vanellope apparently did a 180 in-between movies and decided to be a princess after all.
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** ''Disney/RalphBreaksTheInternet'' shows that Vanellope apparently did a 180 in-between movies and decided to be a princess after all.
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** Look closer at the screen when the player uses the Glitch -- you can see three icons near the top of the screen, then only two when she uses the glitch power. So it's apparently treated as a limited special power that that character can use, similar to how Candlehead can set off the cherry bombs. So it's not some unlimited win button, but effectively a boost power with only a couple uses per race.
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* At the end of the film, isn't Vanellope's glitching giving her a bit of an unfair advantage? Because it turns out to not be something she was "born" with and had to learn to work with -- we find out that Turbo gave it to her, she and Ralph managed to fix it, and then she went back into the code and intentionally gave it to herself again. Wouldn't any of the Sugar Rush racers feel a bit bitter about her being able to create this unfair advantage and only using it on herself? Even if she can't rely on it all the time, the fact that it's there at all automatically gives her the upper hand, especially considering she's already one of the best racers in the game.
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** Vanellope is trying to win the race so that the other racers will accept her as one of them. If she steals a kart that won't exactly endear her to anyone, and her trying to enter the race might end with her being thrown in prison.
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** Over the years, why didn't Vanellope ever consider stealing someone else's kart to use in a race? It's shown that the racers leave their karts at the starting line while they pay their racing fees, so it wouldn't be too difficult to make off with one. Yeah, Vanellope is a nice person, but it's not like whoever she stole it from couldn't just make another one at the bakery.
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** Over the years, why didn't Vanellope ever consider stealing someone else's kart to use in a race? It's shown that the racers leave their karts at the starting line while they pay their racing fees, so it wouldn't be too difficult to make off with one. Yeah, Vanellope is a nice person, but it's not like whoever she stole it from couldn't just make another one at the bakery.
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** Presumably her code wouldn't have been there to sabotage if she weren't in the game, so the point is moot.
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*** If that were the case, then it would ruin the moral of Vanellope learning to use her disability to her advantage, since the "glitch" is actually something she had all along. Not to mention, she wouldn't be able to pass the effect onto other people if it wasn't a glitch. My guess is either her power-up was the "sweet seekers" thing we saw King Candy do, meaning he stole it from her, or it's something completely different.
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*** She might have chosen to be a president because it is equal to king, while Princess is a step down. King Candy is still technically above Princess Vanellope, but not President Vanellope.
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* If Vanellope was supposed to be a [[spoiler: [[BeautifulAllAlong Princess all along]], why is she in her track outfit on the side of the cabinet?]]
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** I'm not so sure Vanellope ditching her princess persona had as much to do with Turbo as it did with ''Ralph''. After she crosses the finish line and everyone apologizes to her, Ralph approaches her and says, "So this is the real you...a princess..." After 30 years of being without any friends and all of the "good guys" looking down on him for doing what he had to do, Ralph thought he had finally come across someone who understood what he was going through and had gone through something similar - naturally, he'd be upset upon finding out she was originally practically the ''hero'' of her game, and may have been afraid she'd be as stuck-up as a lot of the other "good guys" he'd met so far. So Vanellope decided to focus on racing instead of being an arrogant princess so the two of them could still be friends.
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** I'm not so sure Vanellope ditching her princess persona had as much to do with Turbo as it did with ''Ralph''. After she crosses the finish line and everyone apologizes to her, Ralph approaches her and says, "So this is the real you...a princess..." After 30 years of being without any friends and all of the "good guys" looking down on him for doing what he had to do, Ralph thought he had finally come across someone who understood what he was going through and had gone through something similar - naturally, he'd be upset upon finding out she was originally practically the ''hero'' of her game, and may have been afraid she'd be as stuck-up as a lot of the other "good guys" he'd met so far. So Vanellope decided to focus on racing instead of being an arrogant a princess so the two of them could still be friends.
**In the scenes where he is shown interacting with the source code, he is basically pulling strings and moving things around; hardly expert, finely skilled stuff. Even the LaserGuidedAmnesia is presented as him dragging a chest into the area and putting two things in it. From these scenes, it doesn't look like he can do anything more complicated.
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**She says that racing is "in my code". Translate that for a human and it becomes "this is my true calling". She wants to race so badly that she's willing to put up with hatred.
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**My guess is [[spoiler: AmnesiaMissedASpot. She remembers certain things from before the events of the movie.]] Either that, or she's making up some BadassBoast based on the knowledge that she is a character in an arcade game.
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* The fact that Vanellope references the game as being "west of the Whac-A-Mole" (also referenced by Ralph when he realizes where the shuttle ended up crashing) while showing off her first kart to the other racers seems to go against her inability to leave Sugar Rush. How would she have known about any other games if she couldn't leave, and none of the other Sugar Rush residents seem willing to talk to her? Not to mention King Candy's unwillingness to allow anyone from outside the game inside the game.
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*** It's not that he wouldn't be willing to, it's more that he'd be too ashamed to. He gave her a HopeSpot and than crushed her dreams. Even if he summoned the courage to go see her, she'd avoid him at all costs. Hence why when he broke into the Fungeon to save her, he brought her cart with her, so she'd know he was back on her side.
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*** There might be such a thing as too much analysis in play, here. Why is she a president? Because "president" has different connotations, a different feel and flavour, than "princess". She's a president because it's a joke that works in this context. She's a president because it fits her personality. Dissecting the concept of her being a president rather than a princess makes about as much sense as saying "she can't be a president because she's 9 years old". Or "cars made of candy can't drive". In this game world, candy-themed children race their cars and are ruled by a president after being saved from a glitched-out racer from another game. The fact that she's a perpetual president makes about as much sense as the fact that she's a perpetual 9-year-old. Which is to say - either it makes perfect sense, because it fits the story and the movie's world, or it makes no sense if you take too much of a magnifying glass to it. The concept of living video game characters can't possibly be 100% self-consistent and philosophically sound.
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* Why does Vanellope want to be a racer so badly? She doesn't know that everyone's been turned against her by King Candy and has no reason to believe just becoming a racer would change their opinions...From her perspective, everyone in Sugar Rush is just a jerk was who hates and picks on her for no reason. And even if she does win a race and the gamers end up liking her, it wouldn't change the fact that she's still a glitch, who can't leave the game and is stuck with people who hate her even more now that they're forced to share the track with her. Why would she want to be a part of a world like that?
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* Why does Vanellope want to be a racer so badly? She doesn't know that everyone's been turned against her by King Candy and has no reason to believe just becoming a racer would change their opinions...From her perspective, everyone in Sugar Rush is just a jerk was jerkwad who hates and picks on her for no reason. And even if she does win a race and the gamers end up liking her, it wouldn't change the fact that she's still a glitch, who can't leave the game and is stuck with people who hate her even more now that they're forced to share the track with her. Why would she want to be a part of a world like that?
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* Why does Vanellope want to be a racer so badly? She doesn't know that everyone's been turned against her by King Candy and has no reason to believe just becoming a racer would change their opinions...From her perspective, everyone in Sugar Rush is just a jerk was who hates and picks on her for no reason. And even if she does win a race and the gamers end up liking her, it wouldn't change the fact that she's still a glitch, who can't leave the game and is stuck with people who hate her even more now that they're forced to share the track with her. Why would she want to be a part of a world like that?
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*** I was under the impression, since she said this right after seeing he had the medal back, that he had "sold her out" by agreeing to stop her from racing in return for getting the medal back.
*** To "sell someone out" means to betray them.
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*** I was under the impression, since she said this right after seeing he had the medal back, that he had "sold her out" out," by agreeing to stop her from racing in return for getting the medal back.
***To "sell someone out" means to betray them.One of the definitions of the word "ratting" is "deserting one's party, side, or cause." Vanellope thought that Ralph had betrayed her, so calling him a "rat" would make sense.
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* If Vanellope had collected one of those sugar cubes during the Random Roster Race, would it have worked and given her an item? I was assuming that when King Candy stripped her code down, he took away her items or the ability to use them, but if Vanellope resets the game by finishing a race in order for her victory animation to be accessed, wouldn't it have done the same thing, required a reset, if she picked up an item she was supposed to be able to use but couldn't?
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*** King Candy said earlier in the film what would happen if he saw Wreck-it Ralph in "his" game ever again. He would lock Ralph in his fungeon. That probably still holds true later on.
