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Headscratchers: Super Mario Galaxy
  • How the hell did the Toad brigade get to the hungry Luma galaxies first when the Luma just transformed? And how were penguins supposdedly living in that galaxy for years when it was just created?
    • That was already discussed. Solution 1: It's a Mario game! Solution 2: The Luma galaxies or planets are all in the Luma's mind; it's just its imagination until it becomes reality the moment it transforms, at which point the NPCs on the planet have in fact been there for years from their point of view.
  • Why does Super Mario Galaxy always get the shaft in terms of representation in spin-offs? Aside from the galaxy-themed Rainbow Road, and Rosalina in Mario Kart Wii and the dream events in the Mario & Sonic games, there hasn't really been anything, not even the slightest reference. I can understand Brawl for not having a Galaxy themed stage, but what stopped Mario Super Sluggers, Mario Sports Mix, or Mario Party (though 9 could have some Galaxy themed stages). Logic doesn't really cut it, especially since a Goomba can play baseball despite not having any arms. Furthermore, why isn't Rosalina in any more spin-offs; I figured she'd be the one character that would be shoved in all the spin-offs, but so far she's only been in Mario Kart Wii.
    • SM Galaxy only came out, like, a couple years ago. Good game or not, it is simply not as recognizable as other games in the series.
    • Rosalina (and Queen Bee?) are both in Mario Kart 7, and in one of the stages, the first planet in Gateway Galaxy and the Comet Observatory appear in the background, if that helps. And what do you mean you can understand its absence in Brawl? It came out a year before Brawl, and Brawl got delayed three/four times. The only reference to the game is in the Chronicle. Not even a trophy or sticker. That's appalling!
    • (OP here). Well, I didn't expect much from Brawl, since like how SSB and SSBM focused most of its Mario representation on Mario 64, Brawl would focus most of its on Sunshine. Though now that you mention it, the fact that it had no trophy or stickers is a bit odd, especially since Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin had one in SSBM despite coming out rather recently. I also don't think it not being as well known shouldn't be an excuse. SMG is the only 3D Mario to get a sequel, so that surely must count for something. Even now, Sunshine still gets referenced a lot in most of the non-Mario Kart spin-offs, and I'm pretty sure most people would know more about the two Galaxy games than Sunshine.
    • Actually, there are Galaxy references in 9: Whittles can actually be seen in the backgrounds of some of the minigames. And Mario Tennis Open? Luma's now a playable character.
    • About Rosalina not being in many of the spin-offs, maybe it has something to do with her status as The High Queen and one of the few non-wacky characters of the franchise? Seeing a character like her playable in a place like Mario Party, Mario Strikers, or Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games would feel quite bizarre, even for Mario standards. That's not to say it couldn't happen, but there's a chance that thought causes some hesitation on the dev teams.
      • Rosalina recently became an unlockable playable character in Super Mario 3D World.
      • And she recently was revealed to be a new playable character in the next Super Smash Bros. (for Wii U/3DS)
  • In the Battlerock level, you feed star bits to a hungry Luma, who then transforms into a planet. Okay, standard fare. However, the planet has an NPC on it. Where did this guy come from? Did he pop into existence when the Luma transformed, and when you find him, he's only a minute or two old? Is he the Luma, just in a different form? Did he manage to somehow fly over to this planet really quickly before you get there? Furthermore, it is implied that the NPC has been working really hard on that planet for a long time. How is that possible, if the planet just then popped into existence?
  • Furthermore, consider the blue Lumas that sell you mushrooms. You can feed them star bits, and they'll give you a 1-Up or a life meter boost. The thing is, they don't simply give you the mushroom. No. They transform into the mushroom. Assuming that Mario eats the mushroom to get its powers, did Mario just eat an innocent Luma?
    • You should probably add 'Why are they on the bad guy's ship in the first place?' Or coincidentally a few feet away from a boss arena? Are they completely suicidal?
    • Lumas seem to be effectively immortal thanks to reincarnation; they're probably deliberately helping out Mario.
    • That, and their purpose is explicitly stated to be to eventually transform into something else, and if that helps save the universe, so much the better.

  • When a Hungry Luma turns into a galaxy or a planet, it's new, and Mario should always be the first one on it, so how the hell do people like the Toads get the power star before Mario? And how have penguins supposedly been living there for years when you just caused the galaxy to be formed?
    • Maybe the galaxies were born with built-in histories and organisms. We're part of OUR galaxy, after all. Not the best excuse, but it's better than nothing.
  • How did Bowser, after getting thrown into the hollow sun around the planetoid where he is last fought (which I assume to be the titular Galaxy reactor), end up on the smaller lava planet? And whether or not you can explain that, why did that world implode into the black hole when the hollow sun is so much larger, and had the Grand Star removed from it (which was being used for something)?
    • It's possible he got punched through it.
    • That may explain why he got there, but nothing else. And didn't he float there?
  • How the hell did Guppy get from Sea Slide to the bottom of the underground lake in Deep Dark Galaxy?
    • Perhaps he's actually a Space Whale?
    • Perhaps he has a twin who lives in Deep Dark Galaxy.
    • Maybe used a spaceship?
  • You're getting rid of the trash in the ammo depot by blowing it up. Because it's not like there would be debris or anything.
    • And if you don't destroy all the trash in 30 seconds, all of it magically re-appears!
    • Actually, when you think about it, it wouldn't leave debris, or at least nearly as much. It's ammo, so it'd probably explode with the bomb. However, the debris from ammunition would likely be shrapnel, which is infamous for being deadly. So blowing up an ammo dump just to clean it up would still be a HUGE mistake.
    • Another shining question: Why the hell is the mission timed in the first place? There's no real explanation for why there's a strict 30 second timer on the mission. In fact, all that's ever said about it is when you fail the mission, when the robot chastises you and says "No, no, no! You gotta do it faster!"
      • Not to mention that if you fail, it says "There's always more". If there's always more, then what does blowing it up in the first place do? And why on earth (or any other planet) does it think that a just reward for completing a ridiculous challenge in a ridiculous amount of time is some unidentifiable piece of junk it found lying around?
  • As mentioned on the main page, if you talk to a Gearmo after failing to get all the purple coins in the Battlerock and Dreadnought Galaxies, you instantly die. Why does that happen? Did the Gearmo kill you? And if so, why?
    • Because the game knows that the only way you're leaving the stage at that point is to die. You can't go back for the coins you missed, so the Gearmo acts as a way to put you out of your misery without having to jump into a pit.
  • And they never do explain where Peach gets so damn many 1-Up Mushrooms and how Bowser is stupid enough to let her send them to Mario. Or even how she knows where to send them.
  • In the storybook, how exactly did a little girl and a Luma build the Comet Observatory by themselves? It's mentioned that some furniture is buried within the comet of ice that they landed on, but how much, and how did they get it out?
    • It's the Mario universe. That kind of thing can happen.
    • Think of the storybook as a creation myth. These legends are usually filled with inconsistencies that get handwaved away because at the beginning of time things worked differently than they do now.
    • That requires it to have been the beginning of time, when clearly she came from another planet that was already there.
  • What I'm confused about is the location of the original comet of the Comet Observatory. Is it the tiny planet with the houses that's the first planet you land on, or is it the star at the center of the entire Observatory? That star is the right size and color, it's just that it's a star, not a comet made of ice.
    • I'm inclined to say the original comet turned into the tiny planet since that's where the house she built is. They appear to be connected in some bizarre way since she walks into the house and somehow shows up at the Gate dome of the observatory during the ending cutscene.
      • Then why is the Gateway Galaxy starting planet implied to be Rosalina's "every-100-years-visit" home? It looks and sounds nothing like the planet in the storybook, and it makes more sense for it to be the comet, rather than Rosa's home planet. I personally think the Earth-like planet visible in the background near it was where she came from. My only guess is she visits the small planet to look at the Earth-like planet to reflect and remember.
  • In Sea Slide Galaxy, everyone begs you to teach Guppy a lesson because he's hogging the sea all to himself. After you beat him, he suddenly has a change of heart, and helps you in future missions there, even being friendly towards the Toads and penguins. That's all fine and good, but when you go to Deep Dark Galaxy, suddenly the Toad Brigade is telling you to teach Guppy a lesson again! What happened between galaxies to make them hate Guppy?
    • As mentioned above, there could be two twin Guppys, the latter being a Jerk Ass.
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