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***Saitama got his strength by repeatedly breaking his limits over and over again. Mumen Rider didn’t do that
** They likely died offscreen, it’s not like they’re immortal
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he claimed his reason for turning down Bang was that he wanted pure destructive power not self defense, but this is a martial arts style that the mastery of has allowed Bang, with an entirely ordinary(and in fact well past his prime) human body and no speical abilities, to become the worlds third ranked hero in the world, with Genos' cybernetic body he would likely far surpass Bang, especially once the Doctor could design new parts specifically to compliment the fighting style.
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he claimed his reason for turning down Bang was that he wanted pure destructive power not self defense, but this is a martial arts style that the mastery of has allowed Bang, with an entirely ordinary(and in fact well past his prime) human body and no speical special abilities, to become the worlds third ranked hero in the world, with Genos' cybernetic body he would likely far surpass Bang, especially once the Doctor could design new parts specifically to compliment the fighting style.style.
** Characters in OPM obtain superhuman stats simply from strength training, Bang would still be superhuman even without martial arts. Genos is a skilled fighter already, he wouldn’t need to learn a martial art that doesn’t fit his fighting style
** Characters in OPM obtain superhuman stats simply from strength training, Bang would still be superhuman even without martial arts. Genos is a skilled fighter already, he wouldn’t need to learn a martial art that doesn’t fit his fighting style
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*** Saitama holds back massively all the time. We only see him go full power a couple of times in the series and that’s normally accompanied by a “serious” whatever
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** He just wants to know if he gotten any stronger ''at all'' since he first began studying under Saitama. Sure, he knows that his progress could be measured in inches compared to his "mentor" but he at least wants to have moved '''one''' inch forward in his progress rather than none at all.
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* Genos becomes frustrated because he still didn't get near Saitama's strength and starts wondering if he's having any progress. How does this make any sense? He knows that Saitam blew away Jupiter with a sneeze, he should know that there's zero shame in being weaker than Saitama, and if he stops to think about it, maybe he never will come close to being able to sneeze away planets, and he did punched away the air just like Saitama did in season one, isn't that good progress? You can't explain that away with "it's just the comedy of the manga", the scene is played seriously, and I doubt anyone laughed at that. This isn't funny, it's just weird.
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* Genos becomes frustrated because he still didn't get near Saitama's strength and starts wondering if he's having any progress. How does this make any sense? He knows that Saitam Saitama blew away Jupiter with a sneeze, he should know that there's zero shame in being weaker than Saitama, and if he stops to think about it, maybe he never will come close to being able to sneeze away planets, and he did punched punch away the air just like Saitama did in season one, isn't that good progress? You can't explain that away with "it's just the comedy of the manga", the scene is played seriously, and I doubt anyone laughed at that. This isn't funny, it's just weird.
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* Genos becomes frustrated because he still didn't get near Saitama's strength and starts wondering if he's having any progress. How does this make any sense? He knows that Saitam blew away Jupiter with a sneeze, he should know that there's zero shame in being weaker than Saitama, and if he stops to think about it, maybe he never will come close to being able to sneeze away planets, and he did punched away the air just like Saitama did in season one, isn't that good progress? You can't explain that away with "it's just the comedy of the manga", the scene is played seriously, and I doubt anyone laughed at that. This isn't funny, it's just weird.
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* Genos becomes frustrated because he still didn't get near Saitama's strength and starts wondering if he's having any progress. How does this make any sense? He knows that Saitam blew away Jupiter with a sneeze, he should know that there's zero shame in being weaker than Saitama, and if he stops to think about it, maybe he never will come close to being able to sneeze away planets, and he did punched away the air just like Saitama did in season one, isn't that good progress? You can't explain that away with "it's just the comedy of the manga", the scene is played seriously, and I doubt anyone laughed at that. This isn't funny, it's just weird.
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*** Keep in mind, he didn't kill Froggy or Slugerus either, just buried them up in the ground, like Sneck. It was actually Jungle King that killed them with his wild attack. 2ndly Saitama flicked Genos with his other hand, the actual punch he aimed over genos's head which is what destroyed the mountain.
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*** Keep in mind, he didn't kill Froggy or Slugerus either, just buried them up in the ground, like Sneck. It was actually Jungle King that killed them with his wild attack. 2ndly Secondly, Saitama flicked Genos with his other hand, unlike the actual punch he aimed over genos's head Genos' head, which is what destroyed the mountain.
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*** So how comes Saitama complains about his enemies being too weak then? Why doesn't he use the minimum amount of power to enjoy a fight, while still being able to win? At the very least, it should be more enjoyable then 'one punch'.
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*** So So, how comes Saitama complains about his enemies being too weak weak, then? Why doesn't he use the minimum amount of power to enjoy a fight, while still being able to win? At the very least, it should be more enjoyable then than 'one punch'.
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** It's obviously meant to be inherently stupid, otherwise they wouldn't completely misclassify Saitama. The HA management is generally portrayed as inept and stupid, and most of their S-Class didn't even take the test- they got recognised for their power and requested to become a hero. Too bad Saitama's feats got assigned to King...
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** It's obviously meant to be inherently stupid, otherwise they wouldn't completely misclassify Saitama. The HA management is generally portrayed as inept and stupid, and most of their S-Class didn't even take the test- test -- they got recognised for their power and requested to become a hero. Too bad Saitama's feats got assigned to King...
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** In a word they don't, or at least not purposefully. Fubuki isn't the sort to go around and tell others of Saitama's strength. King just does not talk very much. Initially, Genos tries but it's possible that everyone else presumes he's biased or just being gracious towards a friendly lower-ranked hero. After the Sea King fight he just states he'll respect the path his master wants to take but will aid him if it ever backs him into a corner.
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** In a word word, they don't, or at least not purposefully. Fubuki isn't the sort to go around and tell others of Saitama's strength. King just does not talk very much. Initially, Genos tries but it's possible that everyone else presumes he's biased or just being gracious towards a friendly lower-ranked hero. After the Sea King fight fight, he just states he'll respect the path his master wants to take but will aid him if it ever backs him into a corner.
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** People being studip and easily swayed to irrational conclusions was the point.
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** People being studip stupid and easily swayed to irrational conclusions was the point.
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** It's stated in the manga that Genos gets so much money because he is an S rank hero, while Saitama gets very little because, at the time he was only a C rank hero.
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** It's stated in the manga that Genos gets so much money because he is an S rank S-Class hero, while Saitama gets very little because, at the time he was only a C rank C-Class hero.
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*** That one's easy - participation points. The Hero Organization will give rank ups just for showing up at the scene of an incident, and Mumen Rider shows up even when he really shouldn't.
** Mumen Rider also didn't start from the same place Saitama did - remember, as a bored, unemployed office drone, Saitama was still able to rip the guts out of a crab monster before doing any of his exercises. He was already something special even before he lost his hair from training.
** Mumen Rider also didn't start from the same place Saitama did - remember, as a bored, unemployed office drone, Saitama was still able to rip the guts out of a crab monster before doing any of his exercises. He was already something special even before he lost his hair from training.
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*** That one's easy - -- participation points. The Hero Organization will give rank ups just for showing up at the scene of an incident, and Mumen Rider shows up even when he really shouldn't.
** Mumen Rider also didn't start from the same place Saitama did- -- remember, as a bored, unemployed office drone, Saitama was still able to rip the guts out of a crab monster before doing any of his exercises. He was already something special even before he lost his hair from training.
** Mumen Rider also didn't start from the same place Saitama did
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* How can most other heroes remain clueless as to Saitama's true strength? This is most apparent on two occasions particularly: His fight against the Sea-king and his subsequent banter might've fooled the average citizen, but shouldn't professional heroes know better? The guy had taken down half a dozen A-class heroes and and an S-class and was still going strong until it met Saitama, so that should speak volumes as to his strength (Not to mention the atmospheric bomb punch). The second one, and the most blatant, is his fight against Boros: Just how do the other heroes not notice the FIGHT OF THE GODS happening on top of the airships with all the pyrotechnics, physics-bending and atmosphere-rending. Did they just chalk it up to alien weirdness?
** This is literally the series' punchline. I feel alot of these headscratchers pointing out such inherent series features are missing the point- the stupidity and exceptionally poor luck is the joke, overexplaining it stops it from being funny.
** This is literally the series' punchline. I feel alot of these headscratchers pointing out such inherent series features are missing the point- the stupidity and exceptionally poor luck is the joke, overexplaining it stops it from being funny.
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* How can most other heroes remain clueless as to Saitama's true strength? This is most apparent on two occasions particularly: His fight against the Sea-king Sea-King and his subsequent banter might've fooled the average citizen, but shouldn't professional heroes know better? The guy had taken down half a dozen A-class A-Class heroes and and an S-class S-Class and was still going strong until it met Saitama, so that should speak volumes as to his strength (Not to mention the atmospheric bomb punch). The second one, and the most blatant, is his fight against Boros: Just how do the other heroes not notice the FIGHT OF THE GODS happening on top of the airships with all the pyrotechnics, physics-bending and atmosphere-rending. Did they just chalk it up to alien weirdness?
** This is literally the series' punchline. I feelalot a lot of these headscratchers pointing out such inherent series features are missing the point- point -- the stupidity and exceptionally poor luck is the joke, overexplaining it stops it from being funny.
** This is literally the series' punchline. I feel
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** Because, on some level, he does realize that having someone around to talk to is better than having none. He is the lone inhabitant in a ghost town after all who has to leave the district just to get food. With Genos around, he gets something worth far more than mere money, actual companionship with another living being. Also, Genos does help him give his hobby a meaning in the long run, compared to how it was before that, where Saitama was just a "weirdo in an pajamas" earning no recognition whatsoever. After Genos came around, people at least stopped calling Saitama a "weirdo" for the time being.
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** Because, on some level, he does realize that having someone around to talk to is better than having none. He is the lone inhabitant in a ghost town after all who has to leave the district just to get food. With Genos around, he gets something worth far more than mere money, money: actual companionship with another living being. Also, Genos does help him give his hobby a meaning in the long run, compared to how it was before that, where Saitama was just a "weirdo in an pajamas" earning no recognition whatsoever. After Genos came around, people at least stopped calling Saitama a "weirdo" for the time being.
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* During his fight with Child Emperor, Phoenix Man resurrect several Subterrian Men to fight him as zombies. Except those creatures gave up after Saitama killed their king ( and he was the first Saitama hit ). So how did they die? [[SociopathicHero Did Saitama really chased and killed creatures who surrended]] [[FridgeHorror and were fleeing?]]
** Its possible they had a bit of a civil war trying to decide who would be the new king
** Its possible they had a bit of a civil war trying to decide who would be the new king
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* During his fight with Child Emperor, Phoenix Man resurrect resurrected several Subterrian Subterranean Men to fight him as zombies. Except those creatures gave up after Saitama killed their king ( and (and he was the first one Saitama hit ). So hit). So, how did they die? [[SociopathicHero Did Saitama really chased chase and killed kill creatures who surrended]] surrendered]] [[FridgeHorror and were fleeing?]]
**Its It's possible they had a bit of a civil war trying to decide who would be the new kingking.
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* why do they exist? the house of evolution is suppose to faciliate humans you know, evolution, not just make monsters, so surely they should only be focusing on genetics as you cant pass cybernetics down to the next generation, yet they clearly invested a lot of time into them for Armored Gorilla to be as strong as he is
** There are plenty of people who firmly believe that transhumanism is the next step in our evolution, using technology to go beyond the limits of the flesh. Dr. Genus while clearly a firm beliver of advancing evolution through gene splicing, also explored tech based transhumanism as an option or a supplement.
** There are plenty of people who firmly believe that transhumanism is the next step in our evolution, using technology to go beyond the limits of the flesh. Dr. Genus while clearly a firm beliver of advancing evolution through gene splicing, also explored tech based transhumanism as an option or a supplement.
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* why do they exist? the house of evolution is suppose to faciliate facilitate humans you know, evolution, not just make monsters, so surely they should only be focusing on genetics as you cant pass cybernetics down to the next generation, yet they clearly invested a lot of time into them for Armored Gorilla to be as strong as he is
** There are plenty of people who firmly believe that transhumanism is the next step in our evolution, using technology to go beyond the limits of the flesh. Dr. Genus while clearly a firmbeliver believer of advancing evolution through gene splicing, also explored tech based transhumanism as an option or a supplement.
** There are plenty of people who firmly believe that transhumanism is the next step in our evolution, using technology to go beyond the limits of the flesh. Dr. Genus while clearly a firm
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** Wouldn't doing it in sets imply that he's giving himself a break? If yes, then it would be the latter.
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* This is a legitimate question. He seems to be able to punch spirits, punch his way out of dimensions and well, tank anything his universe throws at him. At this point it seems like nullifying beings is his power, although that could be more WMG than a headscratcher. If this were the case then him being able to shrug off regeneration and stuff would make a lot more sense. Also, note: this is a question regarding if attack nullification is his part of his powerset, like the mc from Toaru.
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* This is a legitimate question. He seems to be able to punch spirits, punch his way out of dimensions and well, tank anything his universe throws at him. At this point it seems like nullifying beings is his power, although that could be more WMG than a headscratcher. If this were the case then him being able to shrug off regeneration and stuff would make a lot more sense. Also, note: this is a question regarding if attack nullification is his part of his powerset, like the mc from Toaru.
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* This is a legitimate question. He seems to be able to punch spirits, punch his way out of dimensions and well, tank anything his universe throws at him. At this point it seems like nullifying beings is his power, although that could be more WMG than a headacratcher. If this were the case then him being able to shrug off regeneration and stuff would make a lot more sense.
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* This is a legitimate question. He seems to be able to punch spirits, punch his way out of dimensions and well, tank anything his universe throws at him. At this point it seems like nullifying beings is his power, although that could be more WMG than a headacratcher.headscratcher. If this were the case then him being able to shrug off regeneration and stuff would make a lot more sense. Also, note: this is a question regarding if attack nullification is his part of his powerset, like the mc from Toaru.
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* This is a legitimate question. He seems to be able to punch spirits, punch his way out of dimensions and well, tank anything his universe throws at him. At this point it seems like nullifying beings is his power, although that could be more WMG than a headacratcher. If this were the case then him being able to shrug off regeneration and stuff would make a lot more sense.
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he claimed his reason for turning down Bang was that he wanted pure destructive power not self defense, but this is a martial arts style that the mastery of has allowed Bang, with an entirely ordinary(and in fact well past his prime) human body and no speical abilities, to become the worlds third ranked hero in the world, with genoses cybernetic body he would likely far surpass Bang, especially once the Doctor could design new parts specifically to compliment the fighting styl
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* why do they exist? the house of evolution is suppose to faciliate humans you know, evolution, not just make monsters, so surely they should only be focusing on genetics as you cant pass cybernetics down to the next generation, yet they clearly invested a lot of time into them for Armored Gorilla to be as strong as he is
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