Headscratchers: My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Meta


  • Okay, why the — why, why would they leak Twilicorn? It's...it's only one of the biggest reveals in the entire series, let's just let everyone know it's coming with promotional material! Sure, a lot of people probably saw it coming anyway, but that's not the point! The first three seasons were all pretty much leading up to this, and they leaked it? ...what?
  • Will the Sea Ponies make an appearance?
    • Sirens (who are portrayed as hippocampi) are the villains in the Rainbow Rocks movie. The Sea Ponies are back and looking for blood!
    • If so, I hope they look more like hippocampi, as mentioned below, than those foul abominations.
    • SHOO BEE DOO SHOOP SHOOP BEE DOO!
    • The Flutter Ponies were alluded to in one recent episode (Rarity was turned into one), so it might not be that much of a stretch.
    • There are already pegasi, why not bring in another creature from Greek mythology?
    • There is a sea ponies playset, available in Toys'R'Us. If they need material for the next season...you never know.
    • I'm guessing they lost the rights. Still, there's no reason they can't introduce some kind of hippocampi.
    • Lauren says that while she actually planned to put them in a season two episode, since she left, it is unlikely they will appear.
      • She was involved with season 2 before she left, so it's a good chance. Here's hoping they sing.
      • There is no chance. They stated that Hasbro did a test with very stupid children who were freaked out by sea ponies because they didn't knew what sea horses were. Mermaid ponies are possible though.
      • Mermares have appeared in the (admittedly non-canon) comics, and they are quite pretty and not uncanny valley. There was even a romance between an earth pony pirate and a mermare.
      • ^ I am 20 years old and the Sea Ponies from the above video freaked me out. It's like they decided to see if they could put other animals besides humans in the Uncanny Valley.
      • Are you sure that's legitimate news? Even given how ridiculous the results of focus groups can be, it sounds implausible.
    • Perhaps Twilight Sparkle's next major magic spell will involve turning others into Sea Ponies? That's how we got a reference to the Flutter Ponies, so I wouldn't be surprised.
    • What about Kelpies?
      • If sea horses freak children out, how well do you think they'd accept horses whose sole purpose in life is to drown people?
      • It's not that bad, they're just monsters like the hydras, manticores, chimeras and cockatrices that we've seen.
      • In the map at the end of My Little Pony Issue 2, a location is named "Kelpie Cove", seeming to indicate kelpies actually ARE canon.
      • Or it's a Mythology Gag.
    • Now more or less answered: the picture book Under The Sparkling Sea is all about them. You might argue on whether the book is canon or not, but it is an official depiction of seaponies in G4 continuity.
  • This isn't a gripe, but I swear Rainbow Dash has the same voice as Spinelli from Recess. IMDB says otherwise, though.
    • Well, they both needed voice actresses that could sound tomboyish, so this is probably why their voices are so alike.
    • I personally think she sounds more like Cree Summer, especially when she voiced Numbah 5, wince they both have that odd, scratchy undertone.
  • Does anyone else have a feeling that they are slowly running out of Aesops? I mean, the formula for each episode is supposed to be that Twilight learns something new about the magic of friendship and reports her findings back to princess Celestia, but many Aesops in recent episodes didn't even have much to do with friendship (although they were still pretty good) and it looks like writers just tried to add something like "and your friends can help you with that" at the end of them just to be consistent. Heck, at the end of 17th episode Twilight didn't even mention friendship when writing to Celestia! I know that there is only so many lessons about friendship you can give without becoming repetitive ("never lose faith in your friends", "respect your friends' feelings" etc.) but wouldn't it be easier if non-friendship aesops ended not with "Dear princess Celestia, today I learned a valuable lesson about friendship..." but "Dear princess Celestia, today my friends helped me learn a valuable life lesson..."?
    • I'm guessing they're trying to down play it.
    • She has to graduate eventually and stand on her own.
    • The show's writers figured that out already. That's why now they're having other ponies write Celestia letters now instead of just Twilight. Actually, I think they're pretty close to hitting the limit on what they can do with her (they've already given her a mental breakdown twice).
    • I think they need another "No means No" aesop...because Some Anvils Need to Be Dropped and it seems to have missed its target.

  • Why the heck do they even need a singing voice for Pinkie Pie? This troper has a old Madeline CD (Hats Off To Madeline, published in 1995), and a few tracks in there features Andrea Libman's singing, and she is good at it. Yeah, this troper's a big fan of Madeline.
    • Not sure, but it may be the fact that Pinkie is definitely a character voice, and maybe some singers aren't that comfortable singing in a character voice?
    • Perhaps Libman just isn't enough of a Motor Mouth when she's singing.
    • She does her own singing for Fluttershy, so it's not an issue of not being a good singer. My guess is that she couldn't sound enough like Pinkie while singing, so they brought in Shannon Chan-Kent instead.
      • It seems to this troper that she sounds a lot more like Pinkie than Fluttershy when she's singing (as Fluttershy) in "Cutie Mark Chronicles" except for the beginning of the song and the last syllable.
      • Related to the above - it's probably just down to sounding enough like two different characters when singing, probably a bit of a feat.
    • I heard it was because they originally didn't have Libman doing Pinkie, but it was the one who does Pinkie's singing, then they got Libman doing Pinkie's voice instead, but they liked the original's singing so much they kept her on for Pinkie's singing but not speaking. And it fits in as seamlessly as Jasmine and Aladdin's. My question is... why didn't they have Apple Bloom be the one good at singing, since her actress does the singing for Sweetie Belle, and it's very obvious its her, due to the country twang her voice has.
      • Close, but not quite. Dan Ingram answered this one already. When he was trying to get hired for the show (before any of the VA's were hired), he asked his friend Shannon Chan-Kent to sing. Hasbro liked her singing as Pinkie so they cast her on the spot, apparently before Libman was hired. Shannon was never cast as Pinkie's speaking voice, and the only reason Libman gets to sing as Fluttershy is because Hasbro couldn't find anyone else able to do it better.

  • The use of the term "pony" instead of "body" is cute and all but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's not like bodies are something that's exclusive to humans. Ponies have bodies too!
    • Maybe it's specifying "ponies, as opposed to bovines, dragons, and other non-pony sentients." We know that cows, buffalo, griffons, and dragons, and probably other creatures, are sentient and capable of speech as well.
      • Well that's just discriminatory.
      • Not really, since they DO occasionally use every"one" depending on the situation. Usually when mentioning something that would effect more than just ponies, or, probably, if they were to refer to a group that had non-ponies as well—so if you were referring to the mane six and Spike, you'd use any/every"one", but if it was just the mane six it would be any/every"pony". Although, admittedly, that might just be the writers slipping. Besides, for all we know, other sentient species do it, too.
      • "Everypony" probably only replaces "everybody," so "everyone" fits, but isn't as natural (to ponies).
    • In the first episode of the second season, Rainbow Dash says "Nopony insults the princess!" but clearly means to say Discord shouldn't, even though he's not a pony. And Applejack says she was talking to "nopony" and is clearly lying, even though she wasn't talking to ponies. So much for that being so neat.
      • I thought it was supposed to represent that she was still in the early stages of the corruption, and was telling a half-truth rather than lying outright.
    • Actually Rainbow Dash saying "nopony" to Discord doesn't count as an error since it was mentioned that while Discord's body was made up of all different sorts of creatures, his head was still that of a pony. So he still qualifies as being at least related to the other ponies.
    • At the beginning of "Putting Your Hoof Down", Fluttershy says "Plenty for everypony" while feeding her pets, even though there's not a single pony present other than herself.
    • it seems like one of those things everybody does just because everybody else is doing it.

  • Why does Twilight Sparkle have a different actress for singing parts? Tara Strong has been shown in the past to be a very competent singer.
    • To this question and the other similar one above: a voice actress may be able to sing, but there is the chance that singing too much can put a strain on her voice, and then she probably won't be able to do the speaking role for a while. It's easier to hire someone else for a singing role while keeping the speaking role intact.
    • Also, as mentioned above, if the character's voice is far enough removed from the actress', she may not be able to maintain that voice while singing. Finding someone else who can sing and make it sound like the character is better than that character's voice completely shifting whenever she sings.
    • While this troper honestly thought that Twilight singing was Tara, what she finds odd about it is the fact that Tara usually does a phenomenal job of singing in-character, even if the voice is quite different from her natural voice. Take, for example, her work voicing Melody in The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea. Twilight's voice, pitchwise, is a bit similar, and Strong did both the speaking and singing voice for Melody. So, theoretically, Twilight shouldn't be to much of a stretch to do both voices for. But I digress.
    • Logistics. Strong lives & works in California. The rest of the cast is based (and records) in Canada. The songs tend to be ensemble efforts and work better with all the main voices in the same room. Guess they just figured it was easier to get a double that sounded close enough than to fly her out each time they needed to record a musical number.

  • Is it bad when you start using words like "somepony" or "anypony" in real life?
    • Depends. Are you talking to ponies?
      • Oh come on, I think it's cute.
    • It doesn't matter. You're a troper. You're doomed anyway.
    • Yes. Speaking as a non-brony here, we start to get creeped out when people start talking about ponies. Think of it this way - what do you do when you see a Star Trek fan speaking klingon? Yeah. It's kind of like that.
      • What's bad is that I don't see anything wrong with that, either.
      • It isn't so much THAT you like the show. It's HOW MUCH you like the show. What do you think of those people who insert random japanese into every day conversation? Crazy japanophiles? Yep...that's how we see you and those Klingons.
      • Well sometimes I use it when referencing the characters but I never used it to describe fans, because we are not ponies. It just doesn't make sense.
      • I can understand having a problem with people speaking Klingon IRL, but Japanese? Really?
      • Monomania - that's the bad thing. I find a disturbing number of Monomaniacs in this fandom. And that really really scares me.
      • If it makes you feel better it's pretty much the same thing you see at football/soccer matches, just with a somewhat more unusual origin. They're pretty much mostly sane human beings when you get down to it. I still hold to my belief that there are a lot less crazy people in this fandom than it appears and the ones that are are either just an extremely vocal minority (and it's not like it's unusual to get a little crazy on the internet.)
      • I find the stuff you're describing (Football matches) to be just as creepy as the My Little Pony monomania.

  • The creator of this show has said that she wants this to be popular not just with little girls but also with little boys and their parents. Now we already have many adult males watching it, but do we have any confirmed cases of little boys who are fans of My Little Pony? Is this show raising a generation of boys who will be more willing to watch shows like Hidamari Sketch? (Note: I mean ones that HAVEN'T hit puberty yet.)
    • My nephews seem to enjoy it, one is 4, the other 3. I'm tempted to introduce my older nephews (7 and 6) to it.
    • I babysit for a 9 year old and 4 year old, both boys. The former thinks that Pinkie Pie is the funniest thing ever, while the latter keeps trying to pull off a Sonic Rainboom. They both said it's their favorite show.
    • Pfft, Tagger was into ponies BEFORE they were mainstream.
    • Out of curiosity, where would they find shows like Hidamari Sketch assuming they don't watch anime?
    • My seven-year-old nephew enjoys this show, and his favorite character is Rarity.
    • My 12-year-old brother watches the show and although he doesn't have a favorite episode or character, he's trying to learn the songs and has drawn a piece of fanart. I find his interest a little more surprising, since he also watches Family Guy and South Park but can enjoy the friendlier MLP:FIM.
    • My 3 brothers; 11, 8 and 5 respectively. I introduced them to the show shortly after I got into it. They all think Bridle Gossip is best episode(Silly siblings, that's not how you spell Stare Master!), and last I checked, 11 likes Fluttershy most, 8 likes Applejack most and 5 likes Rainbow Dash most.
    • My godchildren love the show. The eldest is a nine year old boy who's automatically into anything generally considered boyish and utterly averse to anything that seems girlish. This show is the exception.
    • My nephews and nieces all hate the show, and when someone came to promote My Little Pony in the book fair, they were met with rampant booing. No, they're not high-school age...these are kids in between the ages of five and eleven.
    • My nephew (age 7) maybe isn't a HUGE fan of the show, but enjoys it enough to join his little sister if she's watching it.
    • My 12 year old cousin and I both enjoy the show more than either of our sisters.
    • My cousin who works at a daycare centre tried showing it and...well...the daycare centre had to ban future showings of My Little Pony episodes because a bunch of people hated it and tried to exile the ones who didn't. Note that I said Daycare..these are four year old kids.
    • Same situation with me (though it happened more than half a year before I became interested in this franchise myself). I went to a friend's house and his 12 year old sister was watching TV (though she wasn't watching it at the moment. I noticed MLP was on and asked her if she liked it. She said she hated it and was just waiting until Adventure Time would show. When I told her about the adult male fanbase both my friend and his sister laughed and thought it was just a joke, as did everyone else I was willing to put MLP in conversation with. And these friends are pretty big video game nerds too.
  • Doesn't really fit in with the tone of this page, but I'm curious as how Hasbro lost the rights to every character BUT Applejack and Spike. The new ponies are a lot better, but even so.

  • Regarding the toys... I know they made some changes to the toys (like making Princess Celestia pink) because they thought it would appeal more to girls. But, I don't really get it. If little girls are fans of the series and wanted to play Friendship is Magic with the characters, wouldn't they want the toys to actually look like the characters? I mean, if a cartoon series based on the X-Men became popular one year and a company decided to make some Wolverine Halloween costumes based on the show design, they wouldn't change the color of the uniform to "appeal more to kids". The reason kids want such things is because they resemble the ones in the show, wouldn't changing that just turn them off from it?
    • Your problem is that you're expecting the system to make sense. As Lauren said elsewhere, they were dealing with the irrational attitudes of toy store owners who might say, "I'll order 50, but I'll order 500 if you make it pink." The toy store owners don't care about the show, they have their own ideas about what little girls want to buy, don't bother them with the facts. (This is also why Applejack only comes with pink or blue hats, or none at all, not brown.)
    • The toy stores also have to consider selling to people who haven't seen the show - which might be most little girls as the show is on an obscure cable network.
      • Or can't afford the higher cable channels. Not sure why they don't bother going to YouTube like I have.
    • It's not just the toys. Pretty much everything Hasbro does outside of the show itself seems still to be stuck in the old mindset, judging by the overuse of certain pictures in magazines or printed on various merchandise. Speaking of the toys, one of the more (in)famous ones is Applejack with a **car**. And a cardboard cutout of Twilight Sparkle in the back, for some reason.
    • Also, if the purpose of the show is to sell the toys, shouldn't the characters in the show match their toys, even if that makes the show worse? And why did the toy store owners want Celestia to be pink, but not Rarity and Sweetie Belle, who are almost the same white? Finally, if they absolutely wanted pink ponies to sell, why didnt they just order lots and lots of Pinkie Pie?
      • Again, toy design is a completely different area from the development of a TV show. The TV show is the adaption of the toy line, even though Lauren Faust designed the characters, she worked on the TV show, not designing the toys. Who knows, maybe in her original development Celestia was going to be pink, and Hasbro designed the toys in that early development period. It could have been too late to change one toy's color, so they kept it. Either that or Executive Meddling, but Lauren refused to change Celestia in the TV show.
      • Indeed, there ARE lots and lots of Pinkie Pie. But yeah, the toy people and the show people work largely independently of each other, and if the toy people feel that some certain character would sell better with a different appearance, then they'll go with that.

  • Okay, this is a small thing, but it really bugs me. Let's take a look at Rainbow Dash's hair normally... Here, we can see that it's kept pretty short and kind of scruffy, which is fitting for a tomboy like her. But when she dressed up for the Gala, her hairstyle's different. Now, I don't mean Dash can't have a new hairstyle, but look at the green, blue, and purple portions! They look like they take up about three times the volume of her normal hairstyle. Now, I admit as a guy I'm not well versed in hair products, but I don't think anything can account for a change in volume like this.
    • Twilight gave Spike, Snips, and Snails moustaches. Rarity cut her tail and attached it to Steven Magnet's moustache, and it later grew back. The Great and Powerful Trixie turned Rarity's hair into some green, grassy thing. In short, magical hair care exists. A fairly small increase in the volume of Rainbow Dash's hair like that is well within the realm of possibility.
      • Not to mention that, lots of the time, when frizzy hair is straightened you can really see how much length it has. Personally, my own hair is curly and big, and seems short, but when I straighten it, you see it's actual length. Maybe Rainbow Dash straightened her mane?
      • It doesn't look that curly...
    • As an alternate theory, though a bit of WMG, Rainbow Dash may just use a lot of hair product like spray or gel to keep it up. When it's taken out, we see her actual hair length. Similar to Storm in her earlier X-Men comic appearances, where her hair will be very long when it's down. (of course, that may have just been to get by the censors in her shower scenes...)
    • Perhaps Rarity just gave her some extensions.

  • Just how did this show get so popular with men? Simple curiosity is my reason for asking, because I have this one friend who talks about only this almost any time he does something on DA now.
    • The same reason it's popular with women (and yes it is; a lot of the artists that get onto ponibooru are female, like Madmax). Because it's a girl's show with actual effort and interesting characters.
    • There are many reasons, but the main ones are likely to be related to how the show can appeal to everyone, and how quickly the online community is growing. It's much easier to admit liking the series when you're told 'Welcome to the herd!' instead of the usual 'Please grow up, you're an embarrassment', even more so when gender is taken into account. An older men can watch MLP, then point out he's not the only one by far once caught, how often does such an opportunity arise?
    • It may have to do with 'tough' guys embracing that 'girly' side they didn't know they had and not be shamed for it.
      • Straight male bronies (like myself) have internalized the belief that Real Men Wear Pink.
      • Once rainbows start making mushroom clouds, they're no longer "girly". At that point everyone has something to enjoy.

  • A meta-example, but is it me or do a lot of FiM fans do not realize the design differences between the generations? I've seen a lot of people look at Glory in the Generation 1 intro, and think it was Rarity. Rarity was a pink furred, rainbow maned character until recently; and she was introduced in generation 3.
    • Oh they recognize it, all right (why do you think every time they see anything Gen 3 they start screaming "kill it with fire"?). They just have the mistaken belief that G4 Rarity was based on Glory - to be fair, they do look a lot alike - instead of her actual inspiration, Sparkler. Honestly, I thought the same thing until I saw Lauren's drawings of the G1 ponies.

  • Why didn't Rarity and Fluttershy change from their concept looks? They look nothing like Rarity and Fluttershy. All the other Ponies had their designs changed. By that logic, they could have left the other two alone. Was it a copyright issue? I thought it was names only.
    • Hasbro lost all the G1 names and designs except for Applejack, but G3 names and designs could be used.
      • Those are G1 designs. They reused the G1 designs for Sparkler and Posey. All they did was change Sparkler to white and remove her highlight, and they changed Posey's Cutie Mark.
    • They did change. Fluttershy's Cutie Mark is different and Rarity's hair color changed from one similar to Twilight Sparkle's to just full on purple.

  • ...Wait. Lauren Faust left? Whut? I'M SO CONFUSED.
    • Yup. She did. She left right after the scripting phase of Season 2 was done. We'll probably never know the real reason, but she and Jayson Thiessen both implied that she burned herself out. We learned in November 2011 that story editor Rob Renzetti and a couple of the other writers left at the same time Lauren did. Cynical fans have speculated that maybe Hasbro tried to do what they've always done with this franchise. But Lauren has insisted that wasn't the case.
      • In various EQD interviews, it definitely seems like more fatigue as opposed to direct Executive Meddling (at least, of the bad type to alter her vision of the show). Someone between Hasbro and Studio B decided that it would best to start Season 2 immediately after "finishing" Season 1 to avoid animation employee turnover or reassignment to other projects to maintain the quality of the show. But this meant the writing staff had to script out those episodes pretty much immediately after finishing Season 1. Thiessen has stated that at one point, between Faust's writing team and his own studio, they were working simultaneously on 32 episodes of the show at various stages. That's definitely burnout that Faust has hinted at.

  • In the original idea, with the original G1 Ponies, was Spike supposed to be Purple like the G3 Spike or Pink like the original?
    • Seeing as how Hasbro made Faust use the names of G3 ponies rather than Suspiciously Similar Substitutes of the G1 characters, they probably also made her use Spike's G3 design so as to not confuse the kids who already had a Spike toy. Or maybe Lil' Lauren's TV had low-quality colors (this IS an '80s TV we're talking about here) and she had always seen Spike as purple.

  • So, according to Faust, Hasbro lost the rights to all of the G1 ponies except for Applejack. This brings up several questions:

  • Why is the toy line using characters like "Lily Blossom" or "Cupcake" (Brrr...) instead of other supporting characters from the show?
    • Don't know why, but it's not the only Hasbro property to do so, and in both directions.
    • Jayson Thiessen mentioned in an interview that Hasbro's toy division and media division rarely talk to each other, and the Executive Meddling usually only happens during scripting (which is when locations and character appearances are set). Everything else is pretty much left up to Studio B. Hasbro's toy people probably aren't even aware of most of the background characters, let alone their popularity with fans.

  • Why are there no male alicorns?
    • We've only seen 5, not counting animation errors.
      • There's Celestia, Luna, Cadence, and Twilight...Who's number 5?
      • Hearts and Hooves Day Love Poison victim.
    • At least not outside of fandom where nearly every single OC is a winged unicorn. (I refuse to refer to them as "Alicorn")
      • That is the in-universe term.
    • Not in the show, but a licensed French MLP book featured an alicorn colt, Léon.
  • Look I think it's great that a show can have a Periphery Fandom, and that people can look past a show being too fit for the opposite gender, but I just have to say as an outsider, just how on earth did this show get the massive Periphery Fandom it has? Most of my male friends on Deviant ART are in love with this show, and I haven't met a single girl who's admitted to watching it. I don't think it's bad, just confusing and I'd like an answer is all. On top of that, this show is relatively new, and it's already skyrocketing! And it has its own Ensemble Dark Horse page, which having so many kind of goes against the spirit of the trope (in which one or few characters are singled out as favorites).
    • There are plenty of adult female fans. They're just not usually as vocal (and remember the old outdated rule that There Are No Girls on the Internet). Examples off the top of my head: one of the three admins of Equestria Daily (Phoe) is a girl. Also, several of the fanartists (Madmax, most notably), the creator of Friendship is Witchcraft (Jenny Nicholson), and more than a few of random internet commenters and cosplayers. Plus, this troper has personally converted some girls to bronydom.
    • The show has so many Ensemble Darkhorses because a lot of background characters who get few or no lines end up getting fan followings, which is why they're considered darkhorses. As to why the show's fandom is so huge... There are a ton of factors that could be the reason, and it's likely a combination of them all. For one, nobody expected the show to be any good. So when it turned out to actually be good, people really took off with it. There's the matter of the Girl-Show Ghetto: Friendship is Magic is extremely rare in that it averts it. Some people also have the theory that a lot of bronies wanted to be into girly stuff like FIM when they were younger but were pushed away from it, and as a result they really latch onto the show, but I don't know if that theory holds much water. Another might be big potential for fan art, it's a hell of a lot of fun to draw different characters from other media (or even yourself!) as ponies. Mostly, though, the show is just really, really good, and internet communities love getting together over TV shows they love.

  • How do the toys work? With other generations it was Toys —> Cartoon. But with this gen it seems to be Cartoon —> Toys, since Lauren made the concept as a cartoon rather then they took a bunch of ponies from the toyline and put them into a carton.
    • Basically, the toys don't really have to do with the show, the toy designers just take a glance (very very short glance) at the early character designs and trust the popularity of the name is enough to sell it, even if the toys will not resemble the characters from the show.
  • Why do so many fanfic writers refer to Celestia and Luna as alicorns? An alicorn is the technical name for a unicorn's horn. And to top it off, in the show's pilot, the narrator refers to the two as unicorns.
    • Alicorn is both the word for the horn of the unicorn AND the name of the winged unicorns/horned pegasus. Source
    • The Other Wiki currently credits Piers Anthony with the first verifiable use of the term. (It also suggests the more straightforward derivation "alacorn" from Latin "ala", wing, and "cornus", horn, as a possible alternative among others for the more technical-minded among us.) In any case, language evolves; the fandom may for all we know establish "alicorn" as a proper term for winged unicorns in the public mind yet, if it isn't there already.
    • Alicorn is the material that makes up a unicorn's horn. An alicorn is either a winged unicorn (or unipeg, in previous MLP fandom parlance, or Pegasus Unicorn from some official FiM information) or nothing. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Alicorn was the third most commonly used term for winged unicorn outside of the MLP fandom before FiM (after winged unicorn and pegasus), though I'm not sure about how long it took after the Piers Anthony book was released to become that popular (weeks? years?).
    • The royals aren't just unicorns with wings; they also have Earth Pony powers.
  • Why do artists depict younger Celestia with pink hair instead of the multiple colors she usually has?
    • If you look at the pictures of Celestia in the Exposition at the beginning of the first episode, she has pinkish hair there. Most people assume that's how she looked in her "filly" form (like the one Luna has as of ep. 2), since her usual appearance looks more like on par with Nightmare Moon.

  • Why's Ditzy so often depicted as being... Eh... Mentally challenged, so to speak. Or at least having a speech problem. I'm fine with the depiction, especially in Dark Fic's, but it seems a bit odd. I've pictured her as being eccentric and The Ditz, but I don't get the speech thing. Where'd it originate from?
    • Muffiiiiiiiiins.....
    • Fans thinking of why her eyes go all wonky at times. Didn't help that it got slightly reinforced when she accidentally dropped a load of cargo on Twilight later in the series.
    • There isn't another Mentally challenged pony for the fanfic writers to play with, so Derpy (aka Ditzy) takes that role.
    • Her actions in "Winter Wrap Up", "Feeling Pinkie Keen", and "Luna Eclipsed" kinda reinforce it.
      • What actions in "Winter Wrap Up"? It's fanon that the name "Ditzy Doo" refers to her — we never see for certain who that pony is, and the most likely candidate in the episode (the Pegasus we see returning with the southern birds in the montage) is distinctly not Derpy.
      • Word of God says that the character fans called Derpy Hooves was originally named Ditzy Doo all along, even in the original The Last Roundup script. They changed it to "Derpy" for her speaking appearance at the last minute just for the bronies, but took it out because Urban Dictionary defined Derpy as "mentally retarded". So, yes, Ditzy Doo is Derpy Hooves.

  • In the Season theme song, about 9 seconds in, look on the train, in the cake car, there's Derpy, but underneath... is that... Madame Foster???
    • No, that's just an old, balding, white pony with pointy ears. In fact, it seems to be an elderly male pony, judging by what seems to be a full-body appearance in the Mare-Do-Well episode.

  • This is something that bugs me about the fanon and fan-work surrounding Derpy Hooves. A lot of it seems to assume that Derpy is mocked and teased and otherwise mistreated by other ponies. Now, don't get me wrong, some of this fan-work is very good, but it does strike me as odd, because the residents of Ponyville don't strike me as cruel or unkind. Far from it, in fact: think about how many residents of the town were willing to drop everything on short notice to attend a party to welcome Twilight Sparkle to their community (a party, lest we forget, to which Derpy was invited). So why the fanon assumption that Derpy is mocked and mistreated by other ponies?
    • The Ponyvillians have shown themselves capable of being prejudiced. Zecora is a prime example of this. Plus, there are jerks like Rainbow Dash's bullies, so, it's not unlikely she'd get crap from at least some ponies. How much crap she gets varies from work to work (ranging from a few jerks to constantly being taunted), because even in that second comic, the crowd scene is stated by the author to be more POV than reality.
    • True, but remember that by the time of "Luna Eclipsed," the mayor described Zecora as "our friend," and she was given charge of the town's children. And even the ponies that bullied Rainbow Dash seemed to have learned a lesson by the end of "Sonic Rainboom." So while they aren't perfect, the ponies of Equestria in general, and of Ponyville in specific, seem generally to be good-hearted equines who are able to learn their lesson when they do go wrong. Ponyville just doesn't strike me as the kind of place where somepony would throw a rock through another pony's window just because she looks odd.
    • A lot of fanart this troper's seen has 'Derpy' being a kind of teasing nickname, but just meant in fun, a little worse than 'Clumsy', and the ponies doing this don't view it as bad because Derpy just smiles and goes along with her day (like how Dash doesn't show her friends when she's worried about the flying competition, or depressed about Mare-Do-Well) so everypony assumes everything is fine and she's ok with the nickname. If it's the fillies teasing Dinky about her mom, it's probably Kids Are Cruel.

  • I'm just curious, how come when I looked this page up with your search feature the image next to it was a photo of some creepy man who judging by his shirt style might be from Star Trek?
    • I'm not sure how the image system works, but the (tenuous) connection seems to be that Q was played by John de Lancie, who went on to voice Discord.
      • So why is he the page thumbnail? He's not on the page.
      • *shrug* Probably just a glitch.
      • Obviously Discord did it specifically to make you ask that question!
      • Someone probably posted a link to that image in the page

  • Why does everyone keep depicting Pinkie Pie's hair as straightening out/poofing up so commonly? In the show it only happened when she was well past the Despair Event Horizon, but in fanfiction it happens whenever anything remotely serious.

  • Just what is the correct way to depict a pony's size when doing a crossover involving humans or human-sized beings in fanfiction? Do you depict ponies as small in such a way that Princess Celestia is only as tall as an ordinary horse (by considering the proportions)? Or is it like in the old cartoon, with this size proportion? Had a little discussion on the matter here.
    • The Hearth's Warming Eve episode has a quick...thing, in the cold open: Twilight suggests listing off interesting or eye-catching sights as they walk through Canterlot from the train station, and Twilight's is referred to as "an 8-foot candy cane", which Scootaloo is stuck to by her tongue. Long story short, adult-size ponies like Twilight and her friends are about 4-ish feet tall.
    • If you consider the size of an apple in Equestria the same as an apple on Earth, then the ponies are about 1.5 feet tall.
      • Personally, I assume them to be about the size of a mid-range real world pony: Roughly four and a half feet at the withers, or about five feet at the crown of the head.

  • This is about the toyline... Why does Cherilee get a lot of attention in the toyline? She isn't even a main character, shoot, she's not even related to a main character and has only had a couple appearances and speaking lines. I know that the producers of the show and the makers of the toys don't really talk to each other much, but it's just really out of place. Most of the toys are either based on main characters or are original designs, usually recolors of the main characters. So Cherilee having a toy is just really, really random. Did somebody in charge of the toyline really like her?
    • First of all, she's pink, a color that's known to market to girls, enough to actually change Celestia's color (If it really was a mistake, it would had been fixed, it wasn't), so she was likely seen as the character most likely to sell. Second, her role is still more developed than most characters, definitely more than background ponies. They have to appeal to customers that knows the show enough to ask for a specific character, and to customers that don't know anything about it. Cheerilee was seen as a combination of both, so she was chosen.
      • I guess that makes sense. Plus, on further inspection, Cherilee had a bigger role in the previous few generations. I guess they figured it was appropriate for her to appear in the FIM toyline since she was in the previous ones so much.
    • Per Faust, they were asked specificly to include a pony named Cheerilee in the show becuase Hasbro saw her as a popular holdover from older generations.

  • Another question about the toy line... I get that Celestia was made pink due to pressure from retailers who thought a pink toy would sell better. Okay, fine. But on the packages for the toys, there are pictures of the TV show versions of the character. And on the package for Celestia's toy, she's still white even though the toy is pink! What's with that?

  • What's up with Lily Blossom? All other non-character pony toys' designs are just recolors of the Mane 6... EXCEPT Lily Blossom. She has her own unique design, and now she has her own McDonald's toy. Is she going to appear in the show or something, or does Hasbro just like her?
    • There are other non-character pony toys with their own designs, like Rainbow Flash and Daisy Dreams. As for the McDonald's toy, they probably didn't want the second set of Happy Meal toys to be too similar to the first set. Lily Blossom may have been picked at random, though it is possible that someone with the show or the main toy line liked her.
    • From what I have noticed, if a non-main character shows up in a blind bag first, then he or she will be a Palette Swap. If a non-main character shows up in one of those three-figurine packages first, then he or she will have a unique character design. Lotus Blossom first appeared in the Spa Pony Set, a three-figurine package. Thus, she has a design more accurate to the show. Of course, I only started observing the merchandise well after the third season ended, so I could be wrong. (And for the record, the show-accurate Lotus Blossom has appeared in the neon-themed blind bag set which came out July 2013.)

  • How is Rainbow Dash mistaken for a guy? (And yes, I'm genuinely curious here.) She has pretty prominent eyelashes, is constantly referred to as "she," and doesn't really sound like a male. Sure, she's tomboyish enough that her behavior wouldn't be out of place for a typical shonen hero, but that's the only reason I can think of that'd make people think she's a stallion.
    • Most people who were confused seem to have only been confused for the first few episodes, before it became obvious what female ponies looked like and what male ponies looked like.
    • In addition to her obvious focus on such by default "masculine" interests as speed and stunt flying, her color probably has something to do with it as well.

  • Would they ever do an Art Shift episode, say giving it the animation style of (for example) Regular Show, Archer or The Pink Panther or would that fail to work with the show's target demographic? Mind you, it is Something Completely Different I suppose for the show..
    • I doubt they'd ever make an entire episode like that, but they have shown a willingness to do occasional shifts for the sake of a gag. See Pinkie's Felt thoughts in "A Friend In Deed" and the G3 Pinkie face from "Too Many Pinkie Pies". They could easily have a scene making some sort of reference.
  • What... just what... is the deal with the Gak? Just... what? Why? How?
    • If you're referring to all the fanart and memes and stuff, it's because during the livestream of the season 3 premiere, there were over a dozen commercial for GAK airing during the breaks, sometimes 2 or 3 times in a row. The fandom thought it was amusing and jumped on it.
    • Much like Magneighto.
  • Anyone else know people having a form of Continuity Lockout because the Fanon invented so many characters' personalities and reference lingo that the show never really mentions?
    • Not really. Then again, the fanon did say that Fluttershy, if she was a human, would have huge breasts and a sweater that contribute to her shyness. Come Equestria Girls, she's a total pettanko (don't know the spelling) in a sleeveless shirt. I guess sometimes the writers can see what we've made, but will often avoid those for reasons.
      • For legal reasons, creative personnel are required to ignore any fan-made material. It's to prevent potential lawsuits from fans accusing the people behind the TV show/movie/novel/music/whatever else of idea theft if a future work comes a bit too close to fan material. This way, if it ever happens, they can claim it as coincidential. (Apparently though, Faust is allowed to see fanart, which is unusual—most other cases I've heard forbid fanart as well because fanart can plant ideas much like fanfiction can.) I imagine it must be difficult for the people who work on Friendship Is Magic as there's so much fan-made stuff, and hanging around with fans will cause inadvertent overhearing of these fanworks.
      • Faust isn't directly involved with the show anymore, so she can look at fan works. As for why Fluttershy didn't match her fanon humanization, it's largely because they gave them all the same body type, likely to avoid flame wars involved in giving the ponies canon body types.

  • Why are the new Alicorn Twilight brushable toys a head taller than the regular pony toys? I know that's what they do for all Alicorns, but I think an exception could have been made for Twilight. Also, I believe an Alicorn mold was made for Luna that was the same size as the regular ponies. Why can't they just use that?
    • Alicorn!Twilight *is* slightly taller than the other ponies. Not a head taller, but it is noticeable... once you know she is.

  • [I'd have placed this in the season 4 page but I don't know where it'd go.] So... whatever happened to that chest they had to open in season 4? Seven episodes in, it was acknowledged once... but it seems to have been forgotten entirely.
    • Castle-Mania might not have directly mentioned it but what was be researched is fairly clear and they were there again in Power Ponies presumably doing more research. Still they have been strangely quiet especially since the commercials keep pushing that their quest will effect the very fate of Equestria.
    • I thought the implication was every time the rainbow sheen effect was used (Such as on Boneless at the end of Pinkie Pride), it was a signal that that item is the corresponding pony's 'key' and will have greater relevance in the season finale.
      • That's almost definitely the case. It just seems that a lot of emphasis is being put on an important quest that could decide the fate of the world and the girls don't seem to care in the least. It's almost like they know a weapon will literally fall in their laps when the threat arrives.
      • If I could write for the show, I'd have the girls called out on it... or if Celestia somehow knew but lied and didn't tell them (again), have Celestia called out on it.
      • In defense of the girls they (like most heroes) are reactive rather than proactive. Which means the idea that they would go looking for a weapon before they had a villain to use it on runs contrary to their personalities. Though the early concern displayed in Castlemania suggests they do intend to go looking for these keys. If the above theory is right that they've been obtaining them (even if Boneless is the only object I can remember off hand) all along it could tie back to the pilot. The didn't claim the Elements of Harmony, they are the rightful bearers and may very well be able to channel their energy with out touching the artifacts proper and just never knew. As for Celestia, for all of Celestia's trolling and mischief she has her reasons in many cases. Outside of sappy cartoons about pastel colored ponies nobody sets out deliberately to make friends and makes friends. They have to happen naturally. If Twilight had known in advance how the Elements worked it instead of "allowing" five crazy ponies to join her in Everfree she would have intentionally gathered together allies intending to FORCE friendship to activate the Elements.
    • re: the chest — Chekhov's Gun was finally fired in the season 4 finale, and how.

  • With the new Rainbow Power toys released, does anyone feel the the color green is almost completely missing from this generation? Each other color in the rainbow is represented nicely, (with Pinkie being close enough to red, and Rarity being white is added as an extra color after purple) except green. In fact, I can only think of two brushable toys that were green (Minty, only in an exclusive set, and Lyra), and they were pretty light green at that.

  • Am I the only one who finds it odd that the main characters, who've saved Equestria numerous times, still aren't known by characters in the town they live in? Does Equestria not have any kind of news system?
    • Well, we do know that newspapers exist in the setting, but given that gossip allowed a school paper to outsell's Ponyville's actual newspaper, I wouldn't trust their judgement.
    • This has been covered a couple of times in a couple of different ways. The Equestian news and history system is pretty terrible. However the girls do seem to be recognized around town, they were all prominent members of the Summer Sun Celebration, rewarded for stopping Discord, Bridesmaids at Cadences wedding and 'Twilight Time' in S4 hinges on the idea that Twilight is a local celebrity. Not that it makes much more sense but the fact that the girls aren't recognized on sight anywhere they go is odd. Unless Equestria is much larger than it looks. Perhaps just like Trixie suggests Ponyville really is the middle of nowhere despite being just down the street from Canterlot. If Equestria is closer to real life than we're generally lead to believe and Manehatten is "regular" with Phillydelphia and Trottingham being similar in size and scope it could be just that most people aren't really aware. Ask yourself how many world leaders (not counting your own) you would recognize walking down the street, how many Medal of Honor (or your country's equivalent honor) would be able to pick out.

  • This question is about the Gameloft game rather than the show. I understand why Derpy isn't referred to by name (The Last Round-Up is what caused the issue in the first place), but couldn't they just use one of her other fan nicknames? She was named "Ditzy Doo" in one episode. Granted she wasn't actually onscreen, but still.
    • The fandom is crazy. If they used a definitive name(either one) people would complain about it. Not naming her anything is basically playing it safe.

  • How is it that so many ponies manage to have a name that is connected to their Cutie Mark or Job description? Now I understand that some of them could be from families associated with a skill or profession (such as Applejack and possibly Octavia melody) or are referred to by their nicknames (Time Turner?) but just how do you explain Silver Spoon and Diamond Tiara? Are all Equestrian parents psychic or are their children really really predictable? Also, does this mean Applebloom will have to change her name if she doesn't get an apple-related cutie mark?

  • Hasbro will be ending its relationship with Discovery Communications and will be losing The Hub to them, which will be renamed the Discovery Family Channel. Hasbro will still have some control over the channel, but this question still needs to be asked: How will this new turn of events with the channel affect the show (especially since Transformers: Robots in Disguise will be moving over to Cartoon Network and premiere there instead)?