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* At what point do they consider organic life a lost cause and start the harvesting process? Because if we are supposed to believe this is all to preserve organic life because they'll lose against their own synthetic creation, then when do they start the invasion? This is asked because for this current cycle, that war is with the Geth. So, was it as soon as the Geth were made they started their plans for genocidal reproduction? (heh, [[IncrediblyLamePun Reaperoduction]]) or did they wait till the war with the Geth vs the Quarians to break out, or wait for the Quarians to get kicked off their home planet? Well, we know for a fact they didn't wait until the Geth actually started a war against all organic life to emerge the superior life forms, because the Geth DIDN'T START A WAR AND JUST STAYED IN GETH SPACE AND LEFT EVERYONE ALONE! The ONLY antagonist Geth in the series were controlled by the Reapers! Oh hello there, giant contradiction: the Reapers invade because synthetic life threatens organic life, and yet the only reason the Geth threatened organics was because the Reapers were starting their invasion. Whaaaaa?
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* At what point do they consider organic life a lost cause and start the harvesting process? Because if we are supposed to believe this is all to preserve organic life because they'll lose against their own synthetic creation, then when do they start the invasion? This is asked because for this current cycle, that war is with the Geth. So, was it as soon as the Geth were made they started their plans for genocidal reproduction? (heh, [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} Reaperoduction]]) or did they wait till the war with the Geth vs the Quarians to break out, or wait for the Quarians to get kicked off their home planet? Well, we know for a fact they didn't wait until the Geth actually started a war against all organic life to emerge the superior life forms, because the Geth DIDN'T START A WAR AND JUST STAYED IN GETH SPACE AND LEFT EVERYONE ALONE! The ONLY antagonist Geth in the series were controlled by the Reapers! Oh Oh, hello there, giant contradiction: the Reapers invade because synthetic life threatens organic life, and yet the only reason the Geth threatened organics was because the Reapers were starting their invasion. Whaaaaa?
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** The Leviathans are depicted as having been that hyper-evolved race that can actually disable a Reaper capital ship with enough of them working together, and they still lost back in the first cycle. While the Catalyst did apparently have the element of surprise on its side, if even they couldn't beat it back when it was just using an army of grunt pawns rather than Reapers to fight, the odds of any species evolving enough in such a limited time window of 50,000 years to beat them now is statistically impossible.
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*** The main thing is that now, organic and synthetic life can fully understand each other and cooperate. The machines aren't alien to us, nor us to them. Maybe they can link processes to allow rote precision like a machine, while freeing up organic imagination
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*** The main thing is that now, organic and synthetic life can fully understand each other and cooperate. The machines aren't alien to us, nor us to them. Maybe they can link processes to allow rote precision like a machine, while freeing up organic imagination
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*** In addition to the above, one of the montage slides in the Synthesis ending shows a highly futuristic spaceship whose sections aren't physically connected to each other, something that no other ending ever implies the galaxy was able to technologically progress to. Likely with organics and machines no longer experiencing active "boredom" by things such as the downtime that inevitably comes with advanced research and grunt work, they were able to make massive scientific leaps that they otherwise couldn't be bothered with.
*** In addition to the above, one of the montage slides in the Synthesis ending shows a highly futuristic spaceship whose sections aren't physically connected to each other, something that no other ending ever implies the galaxy was able to technologically progress to. Likely with organics and machines no longer experiencing active "boredom" by things such as the downtime that inevitably comes with advanced research and grunt work, they were able to make massive scientific leaps that they otherwise couldn't be bothered with.
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** It was most likely programmed to act in that manner during the course of the cycles in which it was refined. Remember that the Crucible is the end result of countless cycles of various species throughout millions of years improving upon and modifying the design. Likely at some point some species came along with BlueAndOrangeMorality who modified the code of the Crucible to make it act in that manner, and subsequent species either didn't change it or were too worried that changing the code would break something so it was left in. By the time we get the schematics in our timeline we don't know what a lot of its functions are, just that the Protheans knew it would work. Hackett himself says he has no idea what the Crucible will do when it is fired, and the Crucible project is just following the schematics they acquired from Mars in hopes it will work.
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* How can the Crucible be so precise that it can non-invasively cyber augment every sapient in the galaxy with no negative effects and yet still be so imprecise that it can’t tell the difference between a Reaper and something that obviously isn’t a Reaper. Before anyone says it, yes, the Crucible does destroy EDI and the Geth in this ending, and no it is not because they have Reaper code. The Crucible did destroy them because the Geth are nowhere to be found in the epilogue (in contrast to Control and Synthesis where we do see them) and during the memorial service we can see EDI’s name has been added to the wall. It also can’t be because they have Reaper code, because Shepard’s own cybernetics are affected as well.
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* How can the Crucible be so precise that it can non-invasively cyber augment every sapient in the galaxy with no negative effects and yet still be so imprecise that it can’t tell the difference between a Reaper and something that obviously isn’t a Reaper. Before anyone says it, yes, the Crucible does destroy EDI and the Geth in this ending, and no it is not because they have Reaper code. The Crucible did destroy them because the Geth are nowhere to be found in the epilogue (in contrast to Control and Synthesis where we do see them) and during the memorial service we can see EDI’s name has been added to the wall. It also can’t be because they have Reaper code, because Shepard’s own cybernetics are affected as well.well in all but the highest EMS scenarios.
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* How can the Crucible be so precise that it can non-invasively cyber augment every sapient in the galaxy with no negative effects and yet still be so imprecise that it can’t tell the difference between a Reaper and something that obviously isn’t a Reaper. Before anyone says it, yes, the Crucible does destroy EDI and the Geth in this ending, and no it is not because they have Reaper code. The Crucible did destroy them because the Geth are nowhere to be found in the epilogue (in contrast to Control and Synthesis where we do see them) and during the memorial service we can EDI’s name has been added to the wall. It also can’t be because they have Reaper code, because Shepard’s own cybernetics are affected as well.
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* How can the Crucible be so precise that it can non-invasively cyber augment every sapient in the galaxy with no negative effects and yet still be so imprecise that it can’t tell the difference between a Reaper and something that obviously isn’t a Reaper. Before anyone says it, yes, the Crucible does destroy EDI and the Geth in this ending, and no it is not because they have Reaper code. The Crucible did destroy them because the Geth are nowhere to be found in the epilogue (in contrast to Control and Synthesis where we do see them) and during the memorial service we can see EDI’s name has been added to the wall. It also can’t be because they have Reaper code, because Shepard’s own cybernetics are affected as well.
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*How can the Crucible be so precise that it can non-invasively cyber augment every sapient in the galaxy with no negative effects and yet still be so imprecise that it can’t tell the difference between a Reaper and something that obviously isn’t a Reaper. Before anyone says it, yes, the Crucible does destroy EDI and the Geth in this ending, and no it is not because they have Reaper code. The Crucible did destroy them because the Geth are nowhere to be found in the epilogue (in contrast to Control and Synthesis where we do see them) and during the memorial service we can EDI’s name has been added to the wall. It also can’t be because they have Reaper code, because Shepard’s own cybernetics are affected as well.
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*How can the Crucible be so precise that it can non-invasively cyber augment every sapient in the galaxy with no negative effects and yet still be so imprecise that it can’t tell the difference between a Reaper and something that obviously isn’t a Reaper. Before anyone says it, yes, the Crucible does destroy EDI and the Geth in this ending, and no it is not because they have Reaper code. The Crucible did destroy them because the Geth are nowhere to be found in the epilogue (in contrast to Control and Synthesis where we do see them) and during the memorial service we can EDI’s name has been added to the wall. It also can’t be because they have Reaper code, because Shepard’s own cybernetics are affected as well.
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** If you want to go super Doyalist, "This happened because the writers wrote it that way," that's not really the point of Headscratchers. Speaking from a Watsonian perspective, the Catalyst speaks in very offhand terms, comparing what it does to a fire clearing away overgrowth. I may control the Reapers, but from everything the Reapers have said, they seem to be more-or-less free to interpret those orders however they want. Sovereign's actions, for example, are distinct from what Harbinger or some random Destroyer would have done.
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** If you want to go super Doyalist, "This happened because the writers wrote it that way," that's not really the point of Headscratchers. Speaking from a Watsonian perspective, the Catalyst speaks in very offhand terms, comparing what it does to a fire clearing away overgrowth. I It may control the Reapers, but from everything the Reapers have said, they seem to be more-or-less free to interpret those orders however they want. Sovereign's actions, for example, are distinct from what Harbinger or some random Destroyer would have done.
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*** Having just finished this game and exhausting every dialogue option with the Catalyst, I could find nothing where it so mush as suggests that it takes a "...hands-off approach to harvesting." Indeed, it says just the opposite: "I control the Reapers." No, a more likely explanation is that Casey Hudson and Mac Walters (the only people who were involved in writing this games’ ending) forgot all these details mentioned above and so didn't realize they were contradicting the previous games. They forgot far more recent details in this trilogy, since in the original (i.e., pre–Extended Cut) ending they forgot that destroying a Mass Relay results in an explosion that can destroy an entire star system, and we the fans had to remind them. If they can forget details like this from DLC that came out a mere year before this game released, they can certainly forget details from a game that came out five years before.
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** If you want to go super Doyalist, "This happened because the writers wrote it that way," that's not really the point of Headscratchers. Speaking from a Watsonian perspective, the Catalyst speaks in very offhand terms, comparing what it does to a fire clearing away overgrowth. I may control the Reapers, but from everything the Reapers have said, they seem to be more-or-less free to interpret those orders however they want. Sovereign's actions, for example, are distinct from what Harbinger or some random Destroyer would have done.
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*** Having just finished this game and exhausting every dialogue option with the Catalyst, I could find nothing where it so mush as suggests that it takes a "...hands-off approach to harvesting." Indeed, it says just the opposite: "I control the Reapers." No, a more likely explanation is that Casey Hudson and Mac Walters (the only people who were involved in writing this games’ ending) forgot all these details and so didn't realize they were contradicting the previous games. They forgot far more recent details in this trilogy, since in the original (i.e., pre–Extended Cut) ending they forgot that destroying a Mass Relay results in an explosion that can destroy an entire star system, and we the fans had to remind them. If they can forget details like this from DLC that came out a mere year before this game released, they can certainly forget details from a game that came out five years before.
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*** Having just finished this game and exhausting every dialogue option with the Catalyst, I could find nothing where it so mush as suggests that it takes a "...hands-off approach to harvesting." Indeed, it says just the opposite: "I control the Reapers." No, a more likely explanation is that Casey Hudson and Mac Walters (the only people who were involved in writing this games’ ending) forgot all these details mentioned above and so didn't realize they were contradicting the previous games. They forgot far more recent details in this trilogy, since in the original (i.e., pre–Extended Cut) ending they forgot that destroying a Mass Relay results in an explosion that can destroy an entire star system, and we the fans had to remind them. If they can forget details like this from DLC that came out a mere year before this game released, they can certainly forget details from a game that came out five years before.
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***Having just finished this game and exhausting every dialogue option with the Catalyst, I could find nothing where it so mush as suggests that it takes a "...hands-off approach to harvesting." Indeed, it says just the opposite: "I control the Reapers." No, a more likely explanation is that Casey Hudson and Mac Walters (the only people who were involved in writing this games’ ending) forgot all these details and so didn't realize they were contradicting the previous games. They forgot far more recent details in this trilogy, since in the original (i.e., pre–Extended Cut) ending they forgot that destroying a Mass Relay results in an explosion that can destroy an entire star system, and we the fans had to remind them. If they can forget details like this from DLC that came out a mere year before this game released, they can certainly forget details from a game that came out five years before.
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** As explained in the above entries, the Catalyst isn't exactly interested in galactic genocide, nor does it seem to care how organics subvert its cycles. All it wants is to find an optimal method to preserving life. From how the Leviathans and itself describe its thought processes, it has a very hands-off approach to harvesting. It gives the Reapers the general order of "Harvest all sufficiently advanced life," then it sits back and watches how exactly the Reapers and the galactic civilizations react to it. It's been trying to find a better solution than the Reapers for a billion years, and it directed them to create the mass relays because it hoped the shorter time there was between cycles, the sooner a civilization would come along that would find that better solution. It also mentioned that it tried imposing Synthesis multiple times in the past, but this is the first cycle where it wouldn't be rejected by organics. To summarize, it doesn't solve all its problems itself because it doesn't see them as problems but new evolutionary variables that could help it find a solution to life preservation; only the Reapers themselves saw them as problems because they conflicted with the general Harvest Order the Catalyst gave them.
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** As explained in the above entries, the Catalyst isn't exactly interested in galactic genocide, nor does it seem to care how organics subvert its cycles. All it wants is to find an optimal method to preserving life. From how the Leviathans and itself describe its thought processes, it has a very hands-off approach to harvesting. It gives the Reapers the general order of "Harvest all sufficiently advanced life," then it sits back and watches how exactly the Reapers and the galactic civilizations react to it. It's been trying to find a better solution than the Reapers for a billion years, and it directed them to create the mass relays because it hoped the shorter time there was between cycles, the sooner a civilization would come along that would find that better solution. It also mentioned that it tried imposing Synthesis multiple times in the past, but this is the first cycle where it wouldn't be rejected by organics. To summarize, it doesn't solve all its problems itself because it doesn't see them as problems but new evolutionary variables that could help it find a solution to life preservation; only the Reapers themselves saw see them as problems because they conflicted conflict with the general Harvest Order the Catalyst gave them.
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why even have the whole system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? The Catalyst is essentially employing a multi-step process -- one that proves to be quite susceptible to outside interference -- for seemingly no reason, as a simple and obvious one-step solution not only appears available, but seems easy to implement. Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn't do this, then again why didn't it just open the relay itself? If it controls the Reapers, as it said at the end of Mass Effect 3, why did Sovereign say "We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness." Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why even have the whole system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? The Catalyst is essentially employing a multi-step process -- one that proves to be quite susceptible to outside interference -- for seemingly no reason, as a simple and obvious one-step solution not only appears available, but seems easy to implement. Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn't do this, then again why didn't it just open the relay itself? If it controls the Reapers, as it said at the end of Mass Effect 3, why did Sovereign say "We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness." Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why even have the whole system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? The Catalyst is essentially employing a multi-step process -- one that proves to be quite susceptible to outside interference -- for seemingly no reason, as a simple and obvious one-step solution not only appears available, but seems easy to implement. Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn't do this, then again why didn't it just open the relay itself? If it controls the Reapers, as it said at the end of Mass Effect 3, why did Sovereign say "We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness." Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
** As explained in the above entries, the Catalyst isn't exactly interested in galactic genocide, nor does it seem to care how organics subvert its cycles. All it wants is to find an optimal method to preserving life. From how the Leviathans and itself describe its thought processes, it has a very hands-off approach to harvesting. It gives the Reapers the general order of "Harvest all sufficiently advanced life," then it sits back and watches how exactly the Reapers and the galactic civilizations react to it. It's been trying to find a better solution than the Reapers for a billion years, and it directed them to create the mass relays because it hoped the shorter time there was between cycles, the sooner a civilization would come along that would find that better solution. It also mentioned that it tried imposing Synthesis multiple times in the past, but this is the first cycle where it wouldn't be rejected by organics. To summarize, it doesn't solve all its problems itself because it doesn't see them as problems but new evolutionary variables that could help it find a solution to life preservation; only the Reapers themselves saw them as problems because they conflicted with the general Harvest Order the Catalyst gave them.
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why even have the whole system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? The Catalyst is essentially employing a multi-step process -- one that proves to be quite susceptible to outside interference -- for seemingly no reason, as a simple and obvious one-step solution not only appears available, but seems easy to implement. Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn't do this, then again why didn't it just open the relay itself? If it controls the Reapers, as it said at the end of Mass Effect 3, why did Sovereign say "We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness." Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
** As explained in the above entries, the Catalyst isn't exactly interested in galactic genocide, nor does it seem to care how organics subvert its cycles. All it wants is to find an optimal method to preserving life. From how the Leviathans and itself describe its thought processes, it has a very hands-off approach to harvesting. It gives the Reapers the general order of "Harvest all sufficiently advanced life," then it sits back and watches how exactly the Reapers and the galactic civilizations react to it. It's been trying to find a better solution than the Reapers for a billion years, and it directed them to create the mass relays because it hoped the shorter time there was between cycles, the sooner a civilization would come along that would find that better solution. It also mentioned that it tried imposing Synthesis multiple times in the past, but this is the first cycle where it wouldn't be rejected by organics. To summarize, it doesn't solve all its problems itself because it doesn't see them as problems but new evolutionary variables that could help it find a solution to life preservation; only the Reapers themselves saw them as problems because they conflicted with the general Harvest Order the Catalyst gave them.
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why even have the whole system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? The Catalyst is essentially employing a multi-step process -- one that proves to be quite susceptible to outside interference -- for seemingly no reason, as a simple and obvious one-step solution not only appears available, but seems easy to implement. Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn't do this, then again why didn't it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why even have the whole system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? The Catalyst is essentially employing a multi-step process -- one that proves to be quite susceptible to outside interference -- for seemingly no reason, as a simple and obvious one-step solution not only appears available, but seems easy to implement. Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn't do this, then again why didn't it just open the relay itself? If it controls the Reapers, as it said at the end of Mass Effect 3, why did Sovereign say "We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness." Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why even have the system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn't do this, then again why didn't it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why even have the whole system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? The Catalyst is essentially employing a multi-step process -- one that proves to be quite susceptible to outside interference -- for seemingly no reason, as a simple and obvious one-step solution not only appears available, but seems easy to implement. Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn't do this, then again why didn't it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it’s able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why leave a Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can’t the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Why didn’t it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign’s signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn’t do this, then again why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn’t it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it’s it's able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why leave even have the system with leaving a vanguard Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy, galaxy in the first place, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can’t can't the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn’t didn't it just open the relay itself? Why didn’t didn't it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign’s Sovereign's signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn’t couldn't do this, then again why didn’t didn't it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn’t didn't it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it’s able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why leave a Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can’t the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Why didn’t it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign’s signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn’t do this, then again why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn’t it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it’s able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why leave a Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can’t the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Why didn’t it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign’s signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn’t do this, then again why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of Mass Effect 1, and why didn’t it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control of the Citadel from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it’s able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why leave a Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can’t the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Why didn’t it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign’s signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn’t do this, then again why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of ME1, and why didn’t it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
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* If the Catalyst is located on the Citadel, where it’s able to see everything organics are doing and has access to the controls for the Citadel relay, then nothing Sovereign did makes any sense. Why leave a Reaper behind between cycles to watch over the galaxy, if the Catalyst can do that itself (and better) from the Citadel? Why did Sovereign have to go to such lengths to get to the Citadel and activate the relay function when the Catalyst is on the Citadel and can do that itself as well? Why did Sovereign need Saren to get backdoor access to the Citadel through the Conduit? Why can’t the Catalyst just grant that access to Sovereign by itself? In fact, why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Why didn’t it do anything to stop the Prothean survivors who came from Ilos via the Conduit from reprogramming the Keepers so that they would disregard Sovereign’s signal? How is it after 50,000 years, an AI that is over 1,000,000,000 years old couldn’t undo some reprogramming that took the Prothean survivors mere decades to figure out? If it somehow couldn’t do this, then again why didn’t it just open the relay itself? Finally, where was it during the battle of the Citadel at the end of ME1, Mass Effect 1, and why didn’t it do anything to stop Shepard from taking control from Sovereign and letting the 5th fleet through?
