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Headscratchers: Injustice: Gods Among Us
  • Ares is helping the heroes because the Regime is apparently so peaceful that there is no war. OK, fine. Except he doesn't seem to be paying attention. Regime!Superman has gone crazy, plans to burn Gotham to the ground and then declare war on the other universe. Plus, Alt!Raven just admitted that she was preparing for the return of Trigon. Ignoring the current conflict, a three-way-fight is brewing between the remaining heroes of the main universe, a crazy Superman and his army who are willing to destroy their own people for perceived slights, and an obscenely powerful demon lord. Sounds like a pretty good war to me. Ares seems kind of stupid.
    • Ares is a "big picture" kind of guy. All this conflict might fuel his magic in the short term, but Superman will bring down an ultimatum that will make it impossible for war to continue. On it's own, the Regime will eliminate war eventually. Without Ares' help, the original universe heroes will also be wiped out, so no lasting conflict there. Trigon is a one-time-deal as well, and presents only a single battle which evil Superman will probably win. Ares wants what the mainstream DC universe has—a ridiculous level of Status Quo Is God that ensures that no lasting peace will ever ensue. For that to happen, the unified front of the Regime needs to go.
      • He even outright says to Wonder Woman that the current situation is only of short term benefit to him.
  • During the final battle, Alt!Black Adam throws cars at Superman. These cars are clearly moving, so they have drivers. Superman is casually blowing up these cars with his heat vision. Superman-the good Superman-is murdering these people without a second thought.
    • Super Dickery.
      • That doesn't seem the best trope to use in a story that hinges on Superman's morality so much.
    • How about Plot Hole? Or simply that the cars have no drivers but they just appear to be moving.
    • If you want to stretch, one might suppose that the civilians escape out of the car or Black Adam shakes them out, which would be hard to see because Black Adam and the cars are so far away and hence not rendered at all due to the Law of Conservation of Detail . Often times, Black Adam is enough of an Anti-Villain to avoid killing innocent civilians, so it wouldn't be out of character for him to do so.
    • I think the developers were shit out of ideas for quicktime minigames at that point.
    • It's pretty obvious it was just a developers oversight and they didn't actually intend to have Superman killing innocent civilians.
    • A wizard teleported them out.
    • They're automated cars like in Dead Space 3 (which would also explain why none of the cars react to the fact that Gotham is being razed to the ground by Regime forces).
    • Flash used his super speed to get them out of the cars as Black Adam threw them at Superman. You can't see him do it, because he's too fast & Superman's not looking for him anyway. ...That's what I'm going with, anyway.
    • If it makes one feel better, one can always pretend that the people dying in the cars were actually evil people. For example, one was an arsonist, one a murderer, a jaywalker, etc.
  • Alt!Sinestro runs another planet. Doesn't he have better things to do then do Regime!Superman's bidding?
    • He said so himself that his home planet has a similar government to the one Regime!Supes ran. An alliance was 'logical'.
      • An alliance implies that they are equals. Sinestro seems perfectly content with being Superman's lackey. I'm reasonably certain he has better things to do then patrol Gotham.
      • I figure it thusly: Korugar and Sinestro's government are already well established and running relatively smoothly. This means that he can leave things in the hands of his subordinates for a while and spend his time aiding a potentially powerful ally in knocking down resistance and building up their control. No sense having an ally weakened by poor organisation and internal conflicts.
      • Alt!Superman probably won't stop at bringing "peace" to Earth. And being Superman probably means, and is shown in the last chapter of the game, that nothing short of another Superman can stop him. Sinestro's not a fool. Why not create an alliance with Superman, even if it means you answer to him. Sinestro keeps his rulership of his own planet and gains some influence on other worlds. It did seem rather odd at first that Sinestro would be involved at all, but it makes a lot of sense when you think about it on a galactic scale.
      • He has Alt!Hal Jordan as his lackey. He is probably having fun actively rubbing that in Green Lantern Corps's faces and thus is willing to stay around and do some Earth chores a bit just so he could abuse his old enemy.
  • According to Deathstroke, the Watchtower is the key to the Regime's power. Except it isn't. Or at least, the story never acts like it. Whenever we see the Regime working, they're operating out of the Fortress of Solitude, Stryker's or Ferris Aircraft. The latter of which has equipment that can detect space-time anomalies for some reason. Stuff that you would normally expect in the Watchtower. The Regime never seems to use the teleporters...in fact, they're not slowed down at all once the Watchtower is destroyed. So it just comes off as Deathstroke needlessly endangering their mission.
    • The Watchtower's teleporters greatly aided in the moving around the world. When it was gone it meant the Regime had to travel the old fashioned way, which gave Regime!Flash enough time to run to the Insurgency and warn them of what was happening.
  • In the main universe, Luthor gives Joker the nuke. This is clearly explained after Injustice-verse's nuke goes off. Except Insurgency!Luthor is a good guy. He wouldn't even have nuclear weapons. So, the question remains: where did Joker get the nuke from?
    • Likely hijacked it from somewhere. Same end, different means, suits his MO just as well.
    • Probably follows the comic, where he got it from the submarine Gunter(as named by Harley), and the rest follows from there.
  • Luthor's plan at the beginning. From the way he talks, he seems to be a Villain with Good Publicity in this version. So why does he openly attack the League and tell them of his plan? Why not just assemble the villains, set one of them up as a patsy leader (Bane, Ares, Sinestro and Black Adam...he's got options), and sip margaritas on a beach far away? Why risk himself like that?
    • Besting Superman and other meta-humans was too delicious a thing for his ego to pass up on, most likely. Once the nuke went off his attack on the Watchtower would have probably faded into the background.
    • Plus Catwoman's comment (the none of your damn business alarm) indicates that not all the villains were in on Luthor's plan to get the Joker to Nuke Metropolis. Attacking the watchtower personally gives him an excuse to not be there when the bomb goes off.
    • This could also depict the turning point where Luthor goes from Villain with Good Publicity into maniacal villain, such as if the League was able to out him as a bad guy hours before or something.
    • To be fair, he's done things like this in the comics even during his Villain with Good Publicity stage(s). Usually by engineering the situation so that after the fact the heroes have no proof (other than their word) that he was ever involved.
  • How can the Scarecrow appear in the Joker's Lair stage? He was the first person that the Joker killed in the Injustice universe, even before the start of the prequel comic. The Arkham Asylum stage makes sense to have him there, because that takes place in the Main universe, and Harley Quinn took over and turned it into the Joker's Lair as tribute to the Injustice Joker having been killed by Superman at the start of the game.
    • Scarecrow's cell likely has excess amounts of fear gas still lingering around. What we see as the Scarecrow could just be another lunatic ambushing the fighter who was unlucky enough to be knocked into the cell. Plus, there's always the possibility of someone else taking up the Scarecrow's mantle.
  • Ok, so before the events of both the comic and game, Regime Superman made a kryptonite weapon that only his five closest allies, together, could access, and it would be used in the event that Regime Superman went mad. Of course, when Regime Superman did go mad, three backed him up and two did not - and one of those got killed. And Supes' closest allies in the game are Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Hal Jordan, and ...Green Arrow? Wait a minute. Wouldn't it make more sense if the fifth one was Barry Allen - he was a founding JL member like the other four, and plus, Main Barry could've used a bigger role in the story.
    • It was Batman who made the weapon, as Regime Superman would have destroyed such a weapon if he knew about it and Regime Batman outright states it was a weapon of his own creation. From that perspective Green Arrow is the better choice because he's a regular human with a different viewpoint compared to the others, so he brings a fifth opinion to the table for this very important decision. Barry doesn't add as much (being a metahuman and a bit too jokey for Batman's tastes) and might not have it in him to kill someone even if the situation warranted it. As for main Barry getting a bigger role in the story, it wouldn't have worked thematically since it would have clashed with Regime Flash's Heel-Face Turn.
  • So which Raven is involved in the Classic Battle ending? Was it the main universe Raven, or the Regime Raven? The costume looks closer to main universe Raven, but we know she never entered the Regimeverse... And counting on that, she didn't look pleased as it's said 'it costed dearly for her', whereas Regime!Raven is more than willing to summon Trigon... Well?
    • It's main universe Raven, for the reasons mentioned above. Yes she never entered the Injustice Universe in the story but neither did main universe Lex Luthor and it's definately him in the Luthor Classic Battle ending. The Classic Battles have different continuity to the story.
  • Okay, so I wonder. I initially thought that since Scorpion was leaked as DLC, it would be, say, Jimmy Olsen who became Scorpion. But, the DLC trailer shows that the real MK Scorpion got dragged in the DC Universe as he was about to finish off Sub-Zero in front of Shao Kahn. Now, the question is: Who is too dumb enough to live (in the game, like Regime Superman or the Insurgency's Batman) to transfer Scorpion in a universe of superheroes?
    • It's possible that evil Superman had sent for him, but it went awry with Scorpion having a thing about serving someone else; the transgression of not having killed Sub-Zero withstanding.
      • I wonder if you noticed the purple smoke when he goes to the DC universe. I honestly think Raven summoned him there.
    • It's Trigon.
    • Makes sense. Trigon probably summoned him as he thought he was vile enough(in Trigon's. eyes) to lead his demonic army, not unlike the scenario in Teen Titans. Except it probably would have ended the same way.
  • How does Scorpion manage to send himself and his opponent to the Netherrealm, while he's stuck in the DC universe? I'm sure his teleporting skills can only go so far.
    • Magic.
    • What, the DC Universe doesn't have it's own Hell dimension?
      • Multiple of them but it's probably the Netherealm. DC's various Hells would not likely welcome the intrusion.
  • Doomsday's arcade ending. I mean, I could buy that he eventually developed flight at some point after beating Superman, since he went against the rest of the metahumans. But the ending specifically mentions that he "absorbed" Superman's power, which as far as I know it is not how the character works. Also he apparently learned to use the Fortress' Kryptonian tech to terraform (Kryptform?) Earth into what he recalled as home.
    • It's not hard to accept that, if he actually DID "absorb" Supes' power, he might have taken his intelligence along with it. Remember that he was at best portrayed as a (sort of) mindless Hulk Speak character, so this begins to make sense.
  • This is a serious Mind Rape for me when it comes to a Head Scratcher. In the story, after Slade rigs the Watchtower to blow up, Cyborg says that they have 90 minutes before it blows up. Ok, that's fine. However, there are facts that contradict this. When Batman's second chapter begins, Cyborg says they have 45 minutes. Fine. At the beginning of Lex Luthor's chapter however, the announcer states that Insurgency forces attacked 90 MINUTES AGO. That severely contradicts the 90 minute time limit if you consider the time it took for Slade to get the tech for Lex's Kryptonite Laser, not to mention the time taken fighting Regime!Wonder Woman and Regime! Killer Frost after he rigged the Tower. How does this make sense AT ALL? To me it seems as if the Watchtower would have gone kablooey in the midst of the battle, not after Cyborg saves both Batmen and Green Arrow by teleporting them.
  • If Scorpion is a skeleton, how can the Scarecrow's fear toxin affect him?
  • A Headscratcher that probably won't be implemented into the game, but in the context of the story, which side would the DLC characters(sans Batgirl) side with in the story? Regime or Insurgency? I had the idea that all of them would be Insurgents sans Zod. Lobo cause he hates Supes'(or expects pay like Slade) Batgirl's Insurgency allegiance is outright stated in her arcade ending, Scorpion might be Insurgent cause he sees Regime Superman as a greater force of evil, and Zod...maybe he would join the Regime since Supes' rule is what Zod wants(albeit in a Krypton environment, see his ending), or he would join the Insurgents simply to fight Superman. What do you guys think?
    • Lobo and Scorpion would be unaligned, I think. Lobo is always out for himself (and doesn't generally care for Superman much) so he wouldn't want to join the regime, but I can see Regime!Superman contracting him to hunt down members of the Insurgency. Judging by Scorpion's ending I don't think he would want to serve under Superman if he could rule Earth himself, but he couldn't join the Insurgents because Batman would never tolerate his presence. Batgirl would surely side with Batman, for obvious reasons. I can't see Zod ever siding with the Son of Jor-el under any circumstances. And I can't see Superman tolerating his presence anyway. For some reason the Martian Manhunter strikes me as the type who would probably join the Regime. Not sure why he gives me that impression, but he does.
    • Original editor here. MM's arcade ending states he joined the Insurgents after Regime Supes fell, so MM joining Reg Supes is jossed.
    • As well, the comics show that the Manhunter endured a similar situation to the people of Earth back on Mars, and would probably not want to see it happen again.
  • In Superman's ending it says that all the heroes got to take turns holding the remote control to his killswitch, except for Batman. Why?
    • Moreover, while it would make sense for Batman to refuse a turn (due to his obsessive Thou Shalt Not Kill beliefs), but the narration specifically says that he was denied a turn.
    • I figure that there are 2 options. The first is that Batman would be less lenient than, say, Flash or Green Lantern; so he could potentially pull the trigger only to find Superman was simply brainwashed & they could have freed him. The second, is that Batman wouldn't pull the trigger, no matter what; by denying Batman a turn with the remote, they don't run the risk of Superman turning evil whilst Batman has the switch & refuses to use it.
    • Batman refuses to kill, yes, but he has shown willingness in the past to use lethal force against opponents, like Superman, that he cannot stop any other way. He does keep Kryptonite in his belt just in case, remember.
    • That ending made be grouse quite a bit, for a couple reasons. In the comics Superman personally asks Batman to be the one to take him down if he ever went rogue, because Batman is by far the most intelligent of the Leaguers and is the least likely to let emotion cloud his actions. In other words, he won't press the button unless he's sure it must be done, but neither will his friendship with Superman make him hesitate to press the button. And he's by far the most paranoid of the Leaguers so he's the one most likely to see the problem coming and nip it in the bud. But the game seems to imply that Batman can't be trusted with the kill-switch because he's too trigger-happy and would apparently be willing to press the kill switch if Superman so much as looked at him cock-eyed.
    • The game itself shows that Batman wouldn't really need such a trigger for a couple or reasons: He refuses to kill, no matter what. Even if he doesn't have a kill switch against all powerful rogue metahumans, he's still smart enough to get his own devices, or make plans complex enough to bring down the villains. Hell, if he wanted that bad to use the trigger, he'd do so all the same, it's not like it would be too hard for him to get it. I thought of it more as a "We're sure you don't need this, so no turn for you".
  • Why is Zatanna on the villains side of the character select? Scorpion is a better fit, as he's usually depicted as a villain in the Mortal Kombat franchise, but like Lobo & Catwoman, falls more onto the side of Anti-Hero than villain, whereas Zatanna is always a hero.
    • She's on the hero side now. Move along.
    • Scorpion's always been an anti-hero too.
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