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** This is brought up in the Halo 2 Anniversary Terminals. 'Refumee tells Guilty Spark that Thel 'Vadamee (the Arbiter) is the only leader among his people he'd trust to be able to unite them against the Prophets... but he assumed that 'Vadamee is most likely dead. And further says that if 'Vadamee did become the Arbiter, he'd "be lost to us. He'd obey the Hierarchs without question. I doubt he'd even respond to his former name." So even if we assume that 'Refumee recognized the Arbiter, he thought it was a lost cause trying to convince him.
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** Why would they need to stop their genocide? They only need ''one'' Reclaimer to activate the Rings, the rest can go burn for all the Prophets care. Just grab one human (or a handful just to have spares) and keep them alive and imprisoned (which they did with Keyes, Johnson, and a number of Marines) until it comes time to activate the Rings. That's certainly much easier to hide from the rest of the Covenant than explaining why they would suddenly reverse course from killing all humans to letting their entire species suddenly join for no explainable reason, especially after the Prophets made a massive deal about how humanity was a blight on the cosmos and an affront to the Forerunners that needed to be purged completely.
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** That's a good point (also, my knowledge of Halo isn't what I would call "all-knowing", but I've done more than just play the games), but even ''still'', they should at least have had that thought as early as 2531, because in Halo Wars, Regret tries to activate a Forerunner control mechanism to activate the warship fleet, but can't, and he realizes that Anders did the same thing and could, which is why he tasked the Arbiter with capturing her so she could be forced to unlock the fleet, so there should by all rights have been at least some murmurs about, "Well, the humans are more useful to us than we anticipated after all...". Even if they only learned the definitive truth from Spark after he was captured early in Halo 2, it still doesn't explain why they would ''continue'' to try to eradicate the race that they depend upon to activate the Halos, because if they kill every single human before they can activate the rings, then there goes the point, the objective, of their entire religion. I know the likelihood of the UNSC accepting an alliance would be abysmally low after the genocide of billions, and that the Covenant leadership was horrifically incompetent and blinded by their faith when it came to making sensible decisions, but what they really should've done by that point was call for a ceasefire and promise to spare the humans under the condition that they join the Covenant, which would be par for the course regarding the Covenant's JoinOrDie policy (and would certainly appease the Elites), or at least fake a truce long enough for the humans to be used to activate the Halos and achieve godhood (aka killing themselves and every single lifeform in the galaxy under the assumption that they'll ascend to godhood, or whatever) before anyone learns the truth.
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** You're making the mistake in assuming that the Covenant always knew that only humans could activate the Rings when they first ordered their genocide. When the Human-Covenant war started, the Prophets who became Truth, Mercy and Regret only knew that humans were designated as Reclaimers, believing that meant that they were Forerunners who stayed behind. And that's all they knew, but seeing as the Covenant religion was based on the premise that all the Forerunners ascended as gods, humanity existing would mean their religion was a lie and thus they sought to wipe them out to hide that truth. However, by that point in time, they knew nothing about what that Reclaimer status actually meant, and since they hadn't found any of the Halos yet, they didn't know that the firing controls for the Halos were locked so that only Reclaimers could use it. It's heavily implied that they only definitively realized that only humans could light the Array in Halo 2, when Guilty Spark was captured and they interrogated him to learn how to activate the Rings. Or in short, the Covenant didn't ''know'' their goals were contradictory when they first started the war with humanity, they only found out much later.
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[[folder: The Covenant's plan for genocide against the Reclaimers]]
* The Covenant declared war on humankind and attempted to kill them all, ostensibly due to the humans being an affront to their gods (even though there were other, more selfish reasons behind that decision, as many people know). Yet, on the other hand, their main goal was to find and activate the Halo array, and if humans are Reclaimers and thus the only ones capable of activating Forerunner technology, ranging from the fleet of ships within the shield world in Halo Wars, to the Halos themselves, why would the Covenant be so gung-ho about killing them all, if that would prevent them from being able to activate the Halos and achieve godhood? The Covenant definitely knew that the humans are the only ones who can activate Forerunner tech, as we see in Halo 2 when Tartarus had to use Miranda Keyes to activate Delta Halo, rather than doing it himself. Their two objectives - killing all humans, and activating the Halo array - are completely contradictory.
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* The Covenant declared war on humankind and attempted to kill them all, ostensibly due to the humans being an affront to their gods (even though there were other, more selfish reasons behind that decision, as many people know). Yet, on the other hand, their main goal was to find and activate the Halo array, and if humans are Reclaimers and thus the only ones capable of activating Forerunner technology, ranging from the fleet of ships within the shield world in Halo Wars, to the Halos themselves, why would the Covenant be so gung-ho about killing them all, if that would prevent them from being able to activate the Halos and achieve godhood? The Covenant definitely knew that the humans are the only ones who can activate Forerunner tech, as we see in Halo 2 when Tartarus had to use Miranda Keyes to activate Delta Halo, rather than doing it himself. Their two objectives - killing all humans, and activating the Halo array - are completely contradictory.
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** Something crucial that's been forgotten about is that by this point, the Elites not only are beginning to develop more respect for the race they've been tasked with annihilating (something that isn't exactly on full display in the games, but is AllThereInTheManual in various places), but they're beginning to question things that they shouldn't. The role of Arbiter is even engineered as a means to remove certain Elites, typically politically powerful ones or more questioning ones, from the picture. The Brutes, meanwhile, are just dumb muscle that do what they're told, don't think for themselves, and don't question anything, making them perfect replacements for the Elites. Obviously, the Elites aren't going to react to that well, which is seen in the opening cutscene of Sacred Icon in Halo 2, and thus Truth decided to preemptively try and wipe them out before they could rally against him, either by force or by inspiring the other members of the Covenant to follow their example, both cases ofwhich would cause the Covenant to fall apart. Either way, it ''was'' a stupid idea, but as bad as the execution was, Truth at least had a very good reason to attempt it.
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** Truth seems to be trying to consolidate political power throughout Halo 2. He barely reacts to the deaths of the other High Prophets and even seems to be pleased by them. He betrayed the Sangheili because he wanted to remove their influence from the Covenant High Council (while the Prophets control most of the Covenant leadership, the Elites still have significant presence and influence as the co-founders of the Covenant).
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** Curent theories are that we will all speak English in the future or more accurately whatever English evolves into.
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** Curent Current theories are that we will all speak English in the future or more accurately whatever English evolves into.
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** Two things I'll add: 1) the point about why the Covenant is so determined to kill you from an in-universe perspective is solid (and also made me laugh my ass off from how it was phrased), though you also have to remember that in addition to mowing down countless Covenant troops since the war began and destroying Halo, you also killed one of the three Hierarchs just slightly over a month ago (again, in-universe), so the Covenant is probably still grieving and angry about the demise of one of their holy leaders at your hands (literally); and 2) as a Spartan, ''you yourself'' are a tank - you're heavily armored (not as much as an actual tank, but way more than a measly Marine) and heavily armed. Not to mention how unlike a regular tank, you're faster, you have recharging shields, and you can commandeer vehicles (basically meaning that a tank can drive a tank).
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Headscratchers for the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' series. New entries on the bottom.
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Asskicking Leads To Leadership is the new name of the trope.
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** They may have also been the least experienced Honor Guards. Remember? AsskickingEqualsAuthority? Even though they were Honor Guards they may have been fresh out of Honor Guard training.
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** They may have also been the least experienced Honor Guards. Remember? AsskickingEqualsAuthority? AsskickingLeadsToLeadership? Even though they were Honor Guards they may have been fresh out of Honor Guard training.
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** Alternatively, the barrier around the place acts like a giant drop shield: anything that isn't in-use weaponry can get through. (Alternatively, think like those shield generators the Gungans has in [[StarWars Phantom Menace]]) The plan seemed to be for the three groups to drop the shield, then for 'Vadum to fire a VCB on the Citadel, obliterating Truth, his guards, and any possible way to activate the Halo Array. The only flaws were A: Johnson's capture, which could've been used as a bartering chip by Truth, if not for B: High Charity crashing down and having a Flood Dispersal Pod slice right through the ''Shadow of Intent''.
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** Alternatively, the barrier around the place acts like a giant drop shield: anything that isn't in-use weaponry can get through. (Alternatively, think like those shield generators the Gungans has in [[StarWars Phantom Menace]]) ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'') The plan seemed to be for the three groups to drop the shield, then for 'Vadum to fire a VCB on the Citadel, obliterating Truth, his guards, and any possible way to activate the Halo Array. The only flaws were A: Johnson's capture, which could've been used as a bartering chip by Truth, if not for B: High Charity crashing down and having a Flood Dispersal Pod slice right through the ''Shadow of Intent''.
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--->"If we look at the mechanics of a Slipstreamspace jump in its most basic form, the exit and re-entry points into real-space could be represented as two panes of Plexiglas suspended parallel to one another. The pane representing the exit has a hole drilled in it - say, big enough to accommodate a ping-pong ball - and a sheet of latex attached to it opposite the re-entry pane. A "rupture" is created when the ping pong ball gets pushed through the hole, stretching the latex until it touches the re-entry pane. The mechanics of how the ball passes through the pane are much less interesting than what happens to the stretched latex after the ball is removed. Basically, it '''snaps back'''. And this is why traveling through Slipspace is so dangerous: if you do it haphazardly - if you don't have good math - there's a good chance somebody is gonna get smacked (see the citizens of New Mombasa in Halo2)".
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--->"If we look at the mechanics of a Slipstreamspace jump in its most basic form, the exit and re-entry points into real-space could be represented as two panes of Plexiglas suspended parallel to one another. The pane representing the exit has a hole drilled in it - say, big enough to accommodate a ping-pong ball - and a sheet of latex attached to it opposite the re-entry pane. A "rupture" is created when the ping pong ball gets pushed through the hole, stretching the latex until it touches the re-entry pane. The mechanics of how the ball passes through the pane are much less interesting than what happens to the stretched latex after the ball is removed. Basically, it '''snaps back'''. And this is why traveling through Slipspace is so dangerous: if you do it haphazardly - if you don't have good math - there's a good chance somebody is gonna get smacked (see the citizens of New Mombasa in Halo2)".''VideoGame/Halo2'')".
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** Seconded. Every camera phone or digital camera made nowadays makes a shutter noise. Even if the people were using digital radios, they might still make the noise for aesthetics. OOC: It's TheCocunutEffect, for the players' benefit. Many modern walkies just beep or something like it.
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** Seconded. Every camera phone or digital camera made nowadays makes a shutter noise. Even if the people were using digital radios, they might still make the noise for aesthetics. OOC: It's TheCocunutEffect, TheCoconutEffect, for the players' benefit. Many modern walkies just beep or something like it.
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[[folder: Truth still in range of the Halo arrays before the end of ''Halo 2'']]
* In ''Halo 2'', Truth sends Tartarus to activate the Halo arrays. However, at this point, Truth did not have access to the Forerunner ship that would take him to the Ark, and thus out of range of the arrays. In ''Halo 3'', we learn that he knew what firing the arrays actually did, so what was his plan to not get wiped out by the firing of the arrays?
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* In ''Halo 2'', Truth sends Tartarus to activate the Halo arrays. However, at this point, Truth did not have access to the Forerunner ship that would take him to the Ark, and thus out of range of the arrays. In ''Halo 3'', we learn that he knew what firing the arrays actually did, so what was his plan to not get wiped out by the firing of the arrays?
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** CriticalResearchFailure. The Covenant have FTL comms. Gravemind is in the middle of a Covenant holy city. Do the math. Also, its strange that one would consider a biological capacity to use FTL communications to be ridiculous, but at the same time you're perfectly willing to accept ''psychic powers'' as somehow being more plausible - in a universe that already has confirmed FTL comms.
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** CriticalResearchFailure.A mistake of the creators. The Covenant have FTL comms. Gravemind is in the middle of a Covenant holy city. Do the math. Also, its strange that one would consider a biological capacity to use FTL communications to be ridiculous, but at the same time you're perfectly willing to accept ''psychic powers'' as somehow being more plausible - in a universe that already has confirmed FTL comms.
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* In two of the games, namely ''[[VideoGame/HaloWars Halo Wars]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/HaloReach Halo Reach]]'' we see Human [[FasterThanLightTravel slipspace drives]] used as [[ImprovisedWeapon improvised]] WeaponsOfMassDestruction - to trigger a supernova and [[EarthShatteringKaboom blow up a Forerunner Shield World]] in the former and destroy the ''[[MileLongShip Long Night of Solace]]'', a Covernant supercarrier in the latter. It works well enough that it seems odd this tactic isn't used elsewhere by humanity, despite [[HotScientist Professor Anders]] and [[TheSmartGuy Kat]] both coming up with this idea having no knowledge of the other use - both women are undoubtedly very smart, but not more so than the (presumably) thousands of scientists working on weapons research considering humanity is in [[HopelessWar rather dire straits]].
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* In two of the games, namely ''[[VideoGame/HaloWars Halo Wars]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/HaloReach Halo Reach]]'' we see Human [[FasterThanLightTravel slipspace drives]] used as [[ImprovisedWeapon improvised]] WeaponsOfMassDestruction - to trigger a supernova and [[EarthShatteringKaboom blow up a Forerunner Shield World]] in the former and destroy the ''[[MileLongShip Long Night of Solace]]'', a Covernant supercarrier in the latter. It works well enough that it seems odd this tactic isn't used elsewhere by humanity, despite [[HotScientist Professor Anders]] Anders and [[TheSmartGuy Kat]] both coming up with this idea having no knowledge of the other use - both women are undoubtedly very smart, but not more so than the (presumably) thousands of scientists working on weapons research considering humanity is in [[HopelessWar rather dire straits]].
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** [[InternalizedCategorism Being a woman does NOT mean you can't be sexist against women]] [[RealityIsUnrealistic or men]]. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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** [[InternalizedCategorism Being a woman does NOT mean you can't be sexist against women]] [[RealityIsUnrealistic or men]].women]]. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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** [[InternalizedCategorism Being a woman does NOT mean you can't be sexist]]. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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** [[InternalizedCategorism Being a woman does NOT mean you can't be sexist]]. sexist against women]] [[RealityIsUnrealistic or men]]. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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** It is also sexist, against men, to insinuate that only men should shoulder the burden of fighting off an enemy bent on destroying humanity. The Covenant do not care what sort of human you are, they will kill you all the same.
** It is also sexist, against men, to insinuate that only men should shoulder the burden of fighting off an enemy bent on destroying humanity. The Covenant do not care what sort of human you are, they will kill you all the same.
