Possibly it's the sensory equivalent of a Translation Convention: Marlin and Dory can't see anything inside the whale's pitch-black mouth, but they can feel their approximate surroundings with their lateral lines, so have roughly the same degree of perception about their surroundings as a human would have in very dim light.
Not that Nemo or Marlin would have known this, but the fishermen would have just thrown Dory back once they pulled up that net.
And they wanted to save all those other fish as well, y'know.
And, most importantly, they didn't know that she would be thrown back.
Maybe they wanted to save everyone later? Others were also fish.
By the time the fishermen found her, Dory might've been squashed to death underneath the pile of somewhat larger fish she'd been hauled up with. So it's not like her life was in no danger, just not as much as the others realized.
What does a vegetarian shark eat?
They weren't vegetarian. They're more than willing to eat dolphins. Also, nothing is said of non-fish aquatic animals, such as crabs and octopi. And lastly, they're apparently not very good at keeping their oath.
Although to be fair, that's only because one of them got the scent of blood — the others seemed okay.
They were supposed to bring a buddy, and one of the shark's 'buddies' ended up a skeleton between his teeth...
Plankton, that's what whale sharks eat.
Without gills that can strain plankton out of the water, they won't be able to do this.
Real Life sharks are usually content to scavenge as an alternative to hunting. Perhaps they could work part-time as "undertakers" when there aren't any dolphins handy?
Confirmed by the fact that the actress who voiced Destiny (Dory's childhood friend) is nearly 20 years younger than Ellen Degeneres.
Shouldn't that pufferfish, um, Bloat, right? Shouldn't he have popped that bag? I don't know if those spikes are actually sharp at all (but I think they are?) but pufferfish suck up water so they can inflate in the first place, so he would have pretty much inhaled the bag.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they sell non-lethal types of puffers for doctor's offices and households? Also, judging by how much water was in the bag, he might've suffocated himself in the attempt.
Pufferfish are only deadly if eaten, and their spines aren't very sharp or stiff enough to pop a plastic bag.
Bloat is a porcupine fish, not the poisonous puffer.
The holes would have been tiny, several orders of magnitude too small for him to swim through.
Also, the end credits imply them to have escaped those bags anyway.
They appear in the stinger of Finding Dory: they never escaped the bags and were taken into the Marine Life Institute.
Were Marlin and Dory meant to be just friends or is there some sort of text behind the subtext?
Hmm... I never really got the vibe that it was more than friendship.
I can never see those two as more than just friends.
Well, we do have this little exchange from one point where Marlin tries to (politely) tell Dory to leave, because her scatterbrained nature is causing him delays in his quest to find Nemo:
Dory: (Tearing) You... you mean you don't... like me? (Cries)
Marlin: No, of course I like you, it's because I like you I don't want to be with you... it's a... complicated emotion... Don't cry, I like you...
How come every aquatic animal from octopi to fish to pelicans to turtles speak the same language but whales apparently don't? A fish to mammal isn't any more different than a fish to a reptile, or a fish to a bird, or a fish to a cephalopod (ok, they're obviously not all the same, but you get the point).
They do. They just speak it veeeeerrrrrrry slooooooooowwwwwwly.
In Finding Dory, there's a beluga whale named Bailey who speaks the same language as the protagonists (and presumably also can speak whale, but doesn't appear to).
Quick point: Those fish bags at the end of the film wouldn't have floated above the water .... Being filled with H 2 Oc, gravity would have had the bags mostly or completely underwater. Obviously, this would have been less funny to humans (air breathing and claustrophobic and all), but it still drives me nuts.
There's still room for buoyancy with the air in the bag, though, so it wouldn't have sank. It'd just have floated at a slightly lower elevation.
Ever gotten a fish from the store, and let the bag float in the tank? (you're supposed btw, it lets the temp adjust and has less chance of putting the fish into shock) The bags do float.
Why would the dentist put a bag of water in the trash can?
In his defense, he didn't know any better. All he saw was a disabled fish in a very, very dangerous environment; it's no secret that in nature, the weak perish easily, so from his perspective, Nemo was living on borrowed time before a predator eventually got him. It's not like he saw Nemo safe and secured in coral and decided to get him out anyway.
This is what may have happened if Nigel didn't show up then and there: the dentist would place the bag containing the "dead" Nemo in the garbage, get Darla's checkup over with, then once she was out of the dentist's chair and back in the waiting room (to probably wait for her mom to pick her up), he'd take the bag out of the garbage can and to the bathroom, where Nemo would be flushed down the toilet. Hopefully the kid could play dead long enough to have this happen.
How come the sea turtles never seemed to have any concern about resurfacing to breathe? They can hold their breath for long, but not THAT long.
We don't know how long they've been down there. Maybe not too long after their scene is over, they resurface.
If Marlin can't read the writing on the back of the scuba mask, how come Nemo knew the tank fish were talking about Darla when they tried Censorship by Spelling?
They were spelling her name in fish language, the scuba mask's writing was in English.
Either that or they also knew how to read. These are the same fish that were familiar with the dentist's work, maybe they also inadvertently learned how to read from him also.
Oh, they know how to read. It's just that Nemo shouldn't be able to, thus he shouldn't know what they're spelling. Fish language was a possibility I hadn't considered, though.
Marlin couldn't read the mask because it was upside down, but he didn't realize it(as he says "What do these markings mean?!", we see it from his point of view and he's looking at it upside down). If he was looking at it right side up, he probably could have read it.
No, he couldn't. It's specifically noted as unusual that Dory can read, judging by Marlin's amazement at this fact, and the fact that he explicitly says "I can't read human", and thus asks her to read the mask even during a moment where he could've done it himself.
Maybe Nemo just guessed from context? That's what I always thought, while Dory and the Tank Fish actually can read.
Also 'Dar' and 'D-A-R' sound pretty similar.
But that asks the question if "Darla" is spoken the same in fish language. If a human were to listen very closely, would he hear "Bloop gloop Darla bloop glug gloop"?
Sure, but the audience is hearing the English (or whatever language they're watching in) equivalent of the fish spelling. Just like words are translated by Translation Convention, the letters and arrangement thereof would be translated.
How does Marlin know who Moby-Dick is? (Inside the whale, he yells "Do I taste good, Moby?") Is Sandy Plankton also a literature expert?
Maybe Moby existed in this universe and is something of a legend.
It's also possible that escaped or released pet fish would have taught ocean dwellers about it. The fish in the dentist office know a lot about dental care, so it's not unreasonable to assume that a librarian's fish could have listened to a reading of Moby Dick before leaving the tank and teaching it to other fish.
When the tank fish think Darla is coming, Gil hides Nemo inside a barrel prop thingy. Why didn't they just have him stay there until Darla left?
Well, the kid they were reacting to turned out to not be Darla, so they all thought he was safe. Additionally, they had just woken up and hadn't had much time to think of a plan. With a little more time they would have just kept him there until Darla arrived and then left.
Why did the dentist decide to give Darla another fish as a present if she already proved she can't take care of one?
She probably threw a fit.
The dentist was already proven to be pretty dumb. He wears an invisible Idiot Ball.
Yeah. I mean, she clearly shakes the bag violently and he does nothing to stop her. He's not kinda an idiot. He's really an idiot.
She's also a year older, he may have expected her to be more mature.
He probably thinks tropical pet fish are the coolest hobby anyone could ever have. He really takes pretty good care of his tank of fish, from his POV. Maybe he's just one of those uncles who is terrible at coming up with gift ideas so he always gets the same thing over and over.
Did anyone else view Marlin as more on the Properly Paranoid side since Nemo swimming out to the boat got him lost in the first place?
Although Nemo only swam out to the boat in the first place because Marlin's obsessive need to make sure he was safe was getting out of control. Had Marlin just relaxed a bit, it probably wouldn't have happened. He's not wrong that the ocean's dangerous; he's wrong in that he's stifling Nemo rather than protecting him.
Nemo had already declined his friends' requests that he try to swim out to the boat, showing that even though his father was overprotective of him, it still paid off to a reasonable degree. He didn't try to swim out there until Marlin went even further by suggesting that just going to school was too much for him, which would've come especially hard to Nemo considering how he'd just abided by what Marlin had been teaching him all those years.
During the one little montage scene thing where various aquatic creatures are talking about Marlin, and his quest to find his son, there's a flock of seagulls talking about it. But in every other instance when there's a seagull on the screen...
MINE. MINE. MINE. MINE.
They're speaking in translated seagull language? I also notice that they're female voices. Perhaps Women Are Wiser to the point that only female seagulls can say more than just "Mine!"?
This troper has noted that seagull calls can sound a lot like "Mine!"
I always thought those were albatrosses and not sea gulls (they're soaring rather than flapping their wings and appear to have rather large wings).
Given that it was sold in Australia, shouldn't the Aquascum 2003 have given the water temperature in Celsius instead of Fahrenheit?
Yes. Unless it was a cheap import.
The Aquascum 2003 scans the tank every five minutes. Every time it does, it announces the results with a computerized voice. Wouldn't that get really annoying really fast?
Maybe the scanning time can be adjusted and five minutes is just the default.
Maybe the voice is optional and Dr. Sherman hadn't finished reading through the manual.
Could somebody please explain something to me? On the main page, there's a Getting Crap Past the Radar entry regarding Deb introducing herself as, "Aunt Deb," then introducing her "sister" Flo (her reflection in the glass). Am I missing something here? How exactly is this a Getting Crap Past the Radar moment?
Aunt Flo is a common euphemism for menstruation.
Ah, okay. Yeah, being a dude, one of the only euphemisms I'm familiar with is, "On the rag." Now that it's been explained, I can't help but wonder if this was being looked into too deep; "Flo" is never actually referred to as Aunt Flo, not to mention Deb calls herself Aunt Deb, which is pretty common among people who assume responsibility of looking after a youngster, by usually saying, "Don't worry, Aunt/Uncle So-and-so will take care of you." Unless it's a Stealth Pun (which maybe it is, I dunno), I just think it's being looked into way too deep... as are a lot of things in animation.
i thought it was a Stealth Pun. You know Deb and Flo? (Ebb and flow?)
How do they find their way back to the anemone at the end? If nothing else, the trip in the whale after being so lost they're going in circles should have completely messed up their ability to backtrack.
By now Marlin's pretty famous, so it might not be hard to find some fans and ask for directions. And it's not as if they had much of a sense of how to get to their destination the first time.
If the sharks can speak fine, why the barracuda and anglerfish just roar, growl and screech?
Because there's no reason for them to say anything. They just want to eat.
When the Tank Gang use the "Ring of Fire" in order to rescue Nemo from Darla, they seem to aim it pretty well on their first try. Instead of jamming the filter or any of the other escape plans they'd tried before, couldn't they have just done the same thing and aimed for the little sink Gill sends Nemo through to get him back to the ocean?
They probably wouldn't fit in it.
Nemo was, clearly, the smallest one of the fish in the tank. The others wouldn't fit in. Also, Gill has tried a lot of (failed) escape attempts, one of them could have used the Ring of Fire
Why did the dentist go all the way out to the ocean for one fish? And continuing from that question, why did he get each fish in his aquarium from a different pet store? Of course, it's most likely that there were specific sea creatures he wanted in his aquarium, but why? Could there be another reason besides "he's got the Idiot Ball?"
The dentist was in the reef with another person (the one that took the photo that blinded Marlin). It's more likely that they were there just for the photos/scuba diving and found Nemo by chance.
Indeed, the dentist himself says he found Nemo "struggling for life" just off the reef and saved him, meaning he probably didn't plan on catching any fish.
I'm probably overquestioning here but who I'm a little curious who the dentist in the reef with. Probably just a friend, but it seems odd that they would put another person there. Having the dentist go alone wouldn't change much.
The friend took the picture of Marlin that made him too disoriented to go after Nemo right away. Their presence (and photographing) clarifies the academic/hobbyist nature of their diving, adds to the terrifying atmosphere of the scene, and makes it obvious that the dentist wasn't out in the open ocean all by himself.
When Dory lifts the crab above the water, how did she know that the seagulls were there?
She may not have known: as a water-breathing fish, Dory may have assumed that exposing the crab to air was a perfectly-good threat in itself.
Perhaps she did know. It's actually pretty simple; she just saw them from a safer distance before swimming closer and lifting the crab out.
A bit of Plot Hole: Gill says that Nemo's the only one who can fit in the filter—but Jacques the shrimp is smaller than Nemo. He could've gone up there too.
Gill's exact words were that Nemo was the only one who could get into and out of the filter. Yes, Jacques is smaller than Nemo, but that means that the blades of the filter could more easily shred him to pieces if he were to try and climb inside. Nemo was too large for the filter to do the same to him, but still small enough to fit past the blades and get inside.
So how did the Tank Gang get out of the plastic baggies? We later see them happily swimming in the open ocean with no explanation of how they got out of the baggies. How did they solve that one flaw of Gill's plan?
They may have gotten the attention of some other fish/crabs/friendly pelicans who were willing to help them open the bags and escape. They'd made it that close to freedom - they certainly weren't going to let something as simple as being trapped in a bag stop them.
Pufferfish have jaws strong enough to chew their way out of a shark's stomach. A bit of plastic would be no trouble for Bloat.
We may actually find out exactly how they did it, too, once Finding Dory comes out - I've heard that the Tank Gang are expected to appear.
They appear after the credits. They were in those bags for a year.
Chuckles, the fish that Dr. Sherman gave his niece the previous year, is a freshwater goldfish. The other fish live in a saltwater tank. Did it occur to anyone that maybe Chuckles was dead before Darla even had a chance to hold the bag?
Given the way the other Tank Gang talk fondly about their time with Chuckles, as well as how the art book mentions him doing things like hanging out in the pirate ship's crow's nest, Chuckles was apparently fine living in the tank. Chalk it up to the writers' not doing enough research, or Chuckles being a mutant goldfish who could breathe in saltwater.
That last bit was admittedly a bit of a joke - I was getting around to thinking maybe Chuckles was some pet-store goldfish that the Tank Gang felt sympathy for due to having to watch his grisly death, but...if there's an art book that mentions him spending time in the tank, that's certainly a different story... (Them writers must've been pretty dern lazy, though, not being able to realize that you can't put what is essentially the simplest, most common household pet into a tank with saltwater in it.)
In the scene where everything goes dark after Marlin's scuffle with the barracuda...Is it me, or does he seem a lot larger than he was before when he leaves the anemone?
How could Dory remember the boat but then forget meeting Marlin?
Is short-term memory loss really that specifically selective? It didn't look like Dory's was; she just seems to forget things and then remember them again on a whim, usually after being reminded about them by someone or something else.
Forgive me if I'm wrong - I don't happen to live anywhere near an ocean - but is it legal for someone to go diving near the Great Barrier Reef and just...capture the first flailing fish they see and take it home with them? It seems like there should be a lot more to the process than that, but maybe I'm wrong. Aren't reefs like that supposed to be protected? (I know that it's unlikely the dentist would get caught for doing this, BTW - I'm just wondering whether it was legal for him to do?)
When Dory forgets who Marlin is and says the "Will you quit it?" speech, isn't she a bit out of character? I get that she didn't know what Marlin's intentions were but she's generally more polite than to say things like "Do ya? Do ya? Ya want a piece of me?" and "Stop following me, OK?!" Why didn't she just ask him politely why he was following?
The first time they meet, he was a traumatized fish that needed help. At the second time he was just a stalker. Two different first impressions.