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Goodbye, Donald Duck
- Was there a particular reason for the writers to put Donald Duck on a bus as soon as possible?
- Probably because of Donald's popularity and seniority in the animation department. If he was a regular character he might have upstaged Scrooge.
- He's also The Unintelligible, a problem that doesn't exist in the comics. Note that some of the comic book stories were adapted into episodes, and instead of bringing him back for those (he did make occasional guest appearances) his role was filled by Launchpad or Fenton.
- Another possible reason is that Clarence Nash, the man who had provided the distinctive voice of Donald since his first animated short, had died in 1985. Ducktales was the first time Nash's successor, Tony Anselmo, voiced Donald. Maybe the people at Disney weren't yet sure whether Anselmo could carry the role when Ducktales went into production, and thus minimized Donald's part in case Anselmo sounded "wrong"?
- One explanation I've read says that licensing issues were at play. If Donald were the star/had a major role, then all Donald toys and merchandise would have had to have been branded Duck Tales for some length of time, even if the show turned out to be a flop. Disney, the story goes, didn't want to take that chance and so Launchpad was created to fill that part.
Duck Tales and the Disney Ducks Comics Universe
- Why does reading this site give me the image that Duck Tales is more well known than the comics that spawned it?
- Because that's probably the case?
- Then that bugs me. A lot.
- Not a unique case.
- I might as well explain why this amazes me so much: Here in Finland every kid from ages three to ten reads Duck comics. Everyone. I don't know anyone here who hasn't read them as a child. The idea of people seeing DuckTales as something else than an adaptation, especially in the country of origin of all those characters, is simply alien as hell to me.
- The Comics have been out of print in America for quite awhile.
- Not quite — bigger comic shops have new issues of Uncle Scrooge and Donald Duck and Friends that seem to contain brand-new stories.
- That spunky, upstart, up-and-comer, Television, has been really giving that financial juggernaut and media colossus, comic books, a run for its money lately eh? Also, don't confuse "the world" with "where insert this troper lives."
- Actually it is a lot more widespread than just "where insert this troper lives." Most of Europe, as well as several South American countries, has highly popular monthly or even weekly comics of the ducks. Reading duck comics is part of growing up for most children in these countries.
- There's actually a good, if convoluted reason for this. The original stories the episodes were based on were published in America decades before the show aired. When the show was a success, the holder of the rights to publish Disney comics, Gemstone, had, for some inscrutable reason, decided to try and corner the collector's market, resulting in higher prices making the books unavailable to kids. A few years ago, Gemstone lost the license, Boom!Studios picked it up, and began undoing some of the damage.
- Because that's probably the case?
- If they live in a city called Duckburg, why are most residents dogs? I mean you will only see another duck person if they are important.
- The founder was a duck, as seen in the comics...
- No. He was a fowl, but not a duck: he was an anthropomorphic coot.
- Maybe because they're immigrants, it's like asking why are Miami's most residents hispanics.
- In fact, "Duckburg" must not be taken as "Burg of ducks", but as "Burg of Duck"; it's not named after the species but after a person. What person you ask ? As it turns out, Donald Duck himself (see this story: http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=H+94122), who during a time travel adventure saved Duckburg's founder from certain death. Said founder was grateful to the duck and named his new city after him.
- The founder was a duck, as seen in the comics...
Home, Expensive Home
- If Scrooge hates spending money, then why does he live in a house that's got to be worth a few million dollars?
- Perhaps he's keeping it and maintaining it as a real estate investment?
- This is actually explained in Don Rosa's The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck (if it was mentioned in the Carl Barks comics, I can't remember). For most of Scrooge's life, even as he kept raking in the dough, he lived very, very frugally. Then Scrooge had a sort of mid(late?)life crisis when he got back home from all his treasure hunting and business building; he had grown old and bitter, had shut out his family, and had lapsed into a deep depression. At that point he chose to buy himself a fancy mansion because Scrooge felt that there was nothing left to do but wallow in his memories, sit in the dark, grow old, and die there. This is of course when Donald and the nephews enter his life and turn him completely around, making him interested in adventuring and being the world's biggest tightwad again. Scrooge still manages to avoid his mansion even with all the treasures inside - he spends a lot more time in his Money Bin which is considerably less furnished.
- After Barks' creation of the money bin, all Barks and Rosa comics show Scrooge living at the money bin, which is also an office building that contains a library and trophy room — in other words, plenty of room for all treasures besides his coins. This is confirmed at the 12th and final chapter of Life and Times, when Scrooge decides to sell the mansion and begin personally running his empire again from the money bin. Rosa's story "The Beagle Boys vs. the Money Bin" shows Scrooge's private living quarters as being on the top (12th) floor. DuckTales illogically (given his — somewhat understandable — obsession with security and guarding his money) shows him living in a mansion separate from the money bin.
- I suspect the difference is that in DuckTales Scrooge hired Duckworth to take care of the mansion, and as strained as their relationship is he was Scrooge's closest thing he had to friends or family for years and if he sold the mansion, he'd have to fire Duckworth.
Human = Duck?
- This show CONSTANTLY keeps referring to the main characters as being humans. You'd think that working on a show called DUCKtales, the writers would remember that their characters are ducks......
- It's not My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. They don't say "everyduck" and "someduck" because, firstly, people didn't really think about things like that in earlier cartoons, and secondly, not everyone in the setting is a duck. "Human" in their frame of reference probably refers to "any being that stands upright and talks (mostly) intelligibly", and thus encompasses all the various other species of animal-like people that populate the world.
Magica's Time Tangle
- In the episode "Duck to the Future", Scrooge ends up getting sent 40 years into the future by Magica DeSpell. Magica has taken over his company and his No. 1 Dime. He manages to confront Magica and, in a sequence that would make any Jerk Ass Genie proud, ends up jumping through time with her until they return to the present. The Fridge Logic here, if he came back from the future with Magica and his dime, wouldn't that mean that there are now two No. 1 Dimes and two Magicas (albeit, one 40 years older than the other)?
- In the alternate timeline, Scrooge was missing for the 40 years he skipped. His return to the past/present means he's erased that timeline — the timeline without him that created the Magica and and the dime he brought back with him. By undoing the alternate timeline, he erased their existence, which is why Magica disappears at the end, so the only Magica and only dime that still exist are their present versions.
Waste of a Good Treasure
- In the end of the treasure hunt of the first episodes, the ancient city with enormous gold deposits is buried underground, so the heroes just leave. Uhm, why? The insane El Capitan attempting to dig out the gold with his bare hands was played for laughs, but he only got the tools wrong, not the idea. The modern world offers some much more efficient means to excavate things, and certainly Scrooge can afford them, especially with such a payoff in the prospect. The end of the episode showed he wasn't rid of his avarice, so...?
- Perhaps Scrooge decided that an entire city's worth of gold was too much, even for him, and didn't want to wind up going as crazy as he'd seen what it did to El Capitan. He could still want treasure, just to not be obsessed with it... and maybe he decided that looking for new treasures would be more fun than spending years excavating that one.
Future Webby Loves...
- I have two problems with "Duck To The Future": 1.) How and why in the love of f*ck did Webby have to end up marrying Doofus? 2.) Isn't it really possible that the future could be changed so that Webby wouldn't end up marrying him? Both these inconsistencies beg an explanation.
- If you know your Time Travel (Back to the Future, Chrono Trigger, Sliders (though that's sideways in time, not forward and backward)), you'd know that that was only one of an infinite number of possible futures. In THAT future, events conspired in such a way that Webby ended up marrying Doofus. Keep in mind that individuals change, sometimes drastically, with age. Possibly, at some point, Doofus changed in a way that Webby became attracted to him. Another point, Webby is a female character and since the number one desire and destiny of all women both real and fictional is to marry someone and start a family, she got paired up with the only prominent male age-appropriate character that existed at the time who was both easily and quickly recognizable to the audience and not Huey, Dewey and/or Louie.
- ... What's so wrong with Webby marrying Doofus anyway that it becomes a headscratcher? And what's so wrong with Webby marrying... anyone... that it's apparently offensive to the entire female gender?
- Welcome to the Internet.
- What the person was intending is probably Stop Being Stereotypical — because stereotypically women have been portrayed as valuing family over professional success, some people might see it as offensive. Some people, on the other hand, would say that feminism is about giving women opportunity, not forcing them into professional success if they don't want it, and hence Webby's choice is valid.
Evil is Blind?
- And speaking of the future episode, how the heck did Future Huey, Dewey, and Louie utterly to fail to repeatedly recognize Scrooge anyway? Future Webby and Doofus recognized him immediately. Future Launchpad didn't initially, but that was because of being distracted thanks to Scrooge accidentally crashing Gyro's time tub/bird bath into his class, and he did recognize him almost immediately the second time they encountered each other. Future Gyro didn't recognize Scrooge, but his case was justified as he had apparently lost a few marbles in the intervening 40 years. Was it just a case of Evil Is Dumb for them?
- First reason: it is, sadly, common for kids who lose a loved one at a young age to eventually forget what their absent mother or sibling or great-uncle or whoever looked like. Second reason: even if the triplets remembered what their great-uncle looked like when they were kids, when he first returns, they have no idea time travel was involved in his disappearance — if they ever expected to see Scrooge again, they'd expect him to be 40 years older, so they wouldn't suspect a duck the same age Scrooge was when he disappeared would be Scrooge now (see also how Dorian Gray managed to convince James Vane that he can't be the man who jilted his sister years ago, as he's much too young!).
Duck Speech Defects...Or Not
- Why is Donald the only duck to have a type of speech that makes him The Unintelligible, yet Scrooge, The Nephews, Professor Ludwig Von Drake, Drake Mallard (despite being in the spin-off) Magica DeSpell, and Glomgold do not have this problem? What is up with that? Did something happen to Donald's vocal chords that make him sound like this and not like the other ducks?
- He's a sailor. He might've been wounded or caught a chronic case of cold.
- Some people have speech impediments. Most people don't. Same thing for humanoid ducks. What's confusing about that?
- This has always been the case. Donald's speech impediment is a speech impediment, and not a trait of being a duck. Other than the triplets, no other duck has ever been shown to have the same speech impediment, not even his sister (their mother).
Ducks, Go to the Top of the Class (System)
- Is there a reason why the richest people around (Scrooge, Flintheart) are always duck-people (not to mention that the city is named after them), while the servant class (Duckworth) and the criminal element (the Beagle Boys) are always dog-people? Is it Fantastic Racism? Have the Unfortunate Implications ever been explored?
- Some counterpoints:
- Most ducks in the show are not rich or powerful. Some examples just from the central characters: Mrs. Beakley is "servant class", Donald and his nephews are middle class, Launchpad and his family are working class / middle class, and Fenton lives in a trailer with his mother. Glomgold is rich, but he also represents the criminal element - he's just been more successful at it than the Beagle Boys.
- All rich or powerful characters are not ducks. We see several rich people and heads of a state who are dogs - just not so much in Duckburg, because Scrooge's exceptionally large financial empire totally dominates the market there.
- Duckburg got its name from its founder, who just happened to be a duck.
- The out-of-story reason for the "duck-centric perspective" is that all of these things originally evolved around Donald Duck. Donald is a duck, so of course(?) he would live in a place called Duckburg. The richest man around is a duck because he was created as a rich relative to Donald. Glomgold is a duck because he's supposed to be Scrooge's evil opposite.
- Some counterpoints:
Reboot, not Release
- Why does Disney think this series is popular enough to get a reboot but not popular enough to release all episodes on dvd?
- Perhaps they think the costs of remastering a hundred episodes for widescreen is higher than the expected sales the DVDs would make? Maybe the reboot will be used as a way to gauge potential buyers, old and new? Either way, a lot of people would happily save up to buy the entire series on DVD so it's anybody's guess why it's taking so long when the movie's already been released as a DVD and the NES game's been remastered.
Banana Republic from "Allowance Day"
Ignorant, Incompetent, Etc
- A Running Gag in the series is Launchpad's intelligence and piloting skills (or lack thereof). But the question, in universe, is why do the other characters purposefully keep Launchpad around if they genuinely think he's that hopeless? In "Treasure of the Golden Suns", Gyro seems to have built the Golden Condor with Launchpad in mind, despite saying he's stupid and a bad pilot. Furthermore, why does Scrooge keep hiring him back? With McDuck nearly suffering Death by Materialism a number of times during the series, it might be believable that he'd hire a pilot he thought was brainless and incompetent (but who would agree to work for an exceedingly low wage) to fly him around. However, hiring such a pilot to fly his cargo would seem to be an exceedingly bad business decision and out of character for a shrewd businessman like Scrooge, and letting him fly his kids around (as happens numerous times when the triplets come along on an adventure) blatantly contradicts the message given elsewhere in the series that Scrooge cares more about his nephews than even his money. Is there some way to reconcile this?