Ok, let's start with this: According to the backstory of this game, Dante's parents were killed by Mundus, and Dante had to grow up in a demon-controlled orphanage. Now, the Demons in this continuity are smarter than usual, as seen in their Masquerade, and yet, why didn't they kill the young Dante while they still had the chance? I mean, he was too young to fight back, likely powerless and directly in their clutches! They had his parents killed, why did they let him live?!
Maybe because their ego was so large that they didn't think that young Dante would grow up into a demon-hunter and thought that he wasn't worth the time killing?
They had time to raise him, but not kill him?
The game explains (and shows) that at a young age, he was strong enough to kill the head nurse Lamia, a demon who was of the same race as her name. It was then said he was moved from orphanage to orphanage, foster home to foster home, which aren't all demon-controlled and he then fell off the grid.
It's probably because they never had a demon/angel hybrid before. Remember in the backstory, they were fascinated by Dante, as he was a "freak of nature" to them. So they probably wanted to study him to see what makes him tick; of course, they probably didn't expect him to be powerful enough to escape.
This is pretty much confirmed by the very first teaser where Dante's chained up, beaten, and getting analyzed by demons behind a camera. They didn't kill him right away because they wanted to study him.
Then another question would be why they left them their heirloom weapons…
In this case, it is because Osiris and Arbiter are sealed inside the magical portraits, and probably hidden to anyone but other Nephilim. As for Eryx and Aquila, you get them from bosses (Poison and Barbas). Which brings the question... why you obtain an angelic weapon from a demon?
it's not said he gets it from Bob, just that it manifests after he beats Bob, possibly meaning it's a natural weapon his body formed.
But it manifests as Angelic energy gathering around Bob's corpse before flowing to Dante.
Maybe it's because of the angel Assiel? I mean, if Barbas is the head of demon prison and Assiel's corpse rests down there, maybe he was the one who defeated her and took her weapons as trophies. Also, it fits with his whole "just doing God's work" theme.
Dante and Vergil were hidden by Sparda, not the forces of Mundus. Mundus was unaware that Dante had survived until he was an adult and able to defend himself. Vergil did an even better job of keeping himself hidden.
Another one (I'm not a ravid hater, I'm just curious): there's something that left me puzzled: according to the Take That, Audience! entry, there's a moment in the game where Dante dons a white wig by mistake... and then removes it, saying "Not in a million years", which is apparently a jab at the fans obsessed with the old white-haired Dante. And yet, this Dante becomes white-haired and red-coated himself during the Devil Trigger, and even permanently after the end of the game. So, doesn't this make the above mentioned wig-jab... dunno... odd? Like "Yeah, never gonna happe-oh, it actually did!".
That's called irony. Obviously the developers knew that they wanted to create a white-haired Dante by the end of the series and this was the prequel to such a thing. You're thinking too hard on this.
Maybe Dante just isn't one for long hair.
This is more likely it as it was always known Dant's Devil Trigger would give him white hair, but the specific style doesn't fit this Dante.
But you can still be "old" Dante with good ol' fashioned DLC!
I got this from watching someone else play the game, but... in one cutscene, Vergil mentions that the Virility affects humans, but not beings like Dante and Vergil. However, in the Virility Factory, you lose health by touching the Virility. How does that work? Is it Gameplay and Story Segregation at its finest, or...?
That stuff is unrefined and acidic, like the vomit Venom spews at you.
Not to mention it's caustic enough to harm the thing that spits it out in the first place. It's practically lava.
And it's not Virility that Dante's touching. It's just a component.
In the normal world it is harmless to Dante; in Limbo, everything changes. It's like another reality with different rules.
When Dante touches a blue rose or a keepsake of his family's, he's transported to a surreal landscape dominated by a massive statue moored by four equally massive chains. Each time Dante breaks the figures holding the chains, the statue's head turns to stare at him and its eyes glow yellow. Is that statue supposed to be Sparda?
It seems to represent Dante himself, or at least his dormant powers. Unshackling the statue awakened his own power, and breaking all the chains allowed him to use his devil trigger.
It may also be a nod to Sparda himself, as you break the chains holding the statue still with Arbiter, the weapon that you inherited from Sparda's portrait.
Is just me, or does it look odd that Mundus, a guy who claims to be a god among demons, is ruling only on Limbo City? If I'm not wrong, it is mentioned that other cities in the world are controlled by the demons... how does Vergil plans to "rule humanity" from a single (if gargantuan) city? I mean, by the end of the game, with Mundus gone, I guess that other "Demon Lords" from all over the world will turn their gaze on Limbo City.... so ruling the city itself or not doesn't seem a good idea on the long run.... I think that Vergil should have waited before declaring his real plans to Dante...
He doesn't rule only Limbo City. He rules essentially the country, maybe even the world. Remember in the beginning he was blackmailing the President? He probably just decided to use Limbo City as his headquarters.
"Rule the World" seems pretty exaggerated if you look at it: he has Virility, but only one demon who can produce it. He has a loyal supporter in Bob Barbas, but only one, and he's pretty much weakened after a single outburst of rage following Lilith's death. Overall, it doesn't really seem that he can completely control the whole human world with only a handful of loyal supporters and various mooks. It would make more sense if there were other demon-kings/queens like Mundus doing the same thing in other parts of the world (with Limbo City being likely in the U.S.A.).
For what reason Vergil can't beat a butcher? The fact that the Final Boss can't defeat a Mini-Boss is meaningless.
It's never shown he can't beat it. He was just busy using the barrier to protect himself while he was trying to to make sure no one could steal data on his plans. Remember how long it took him and Kat to do that while Dante fought the demons? Well, it would have taken even longer if Vergil didn't already start.
Vergil also can't use Yamato, since it'll reveal that he's a son of Sparda.
In the beginning, both Mundus and Kat refers to the "Hunter" as if there are more of them (Kat says "a Hunter demon". Considering that it was pretty tough to bring down (it was killable only because Kat used her wiccan voodoo spray potion to make it vulnerable), why didn't Mundus send more of them after Dante, rather than using his mooks? Btw yes, I know that wiccan and voodoo are two different things, so don't bother me on that point.
Mundus wasn't actively trying to kill Dante, not so hard at least. He only noticed that the Hunter didn't do its job when the Succubus died, and by the time Dante killed Bob, he was in another level of power. Maybe he thought a Hunter wouldn't be enough anymore, or maybe they're pretty rare and that particular one was his only one, but not the only one of its kind. Or something. Mundus doesn't really seem to plan things ahead.
Where were all the angels in this story? Given that they appear to be enemies to the demons, I'd expect them to be out there fighting beside Dante and Vergil or at least supporting them from behind the scenes. Were they too busy fighting Bayonetta?
Considering that Mundus has taken over the world, maybe they have already been wiped out (possibly by Bayonetta). Or they don't care about humanity and are too scared to fight Mundus.
Assuming that the Bayonetta of this setting isn't different from the other one. Anyway, considering that Mundus is in charge of at least a good chunk of the world and that he has a penchant for snacking on Angel's Hearts, one could assume that they were either killed or forced to hide away.
Does anyone find it implausible that, in Vergil's Downfall, he falls for the obvious illusions so readily? I know he's not at his best and they're saying what he wants to hear, but they're also talking with the Voice of the Legion/extruding black tentacles/in places they can't be/any combination of the above. Vergil has never seemed so gullible before!
Remember, this isn't DMC3 Vergil, this is DmC Vergil. At this point in time, he's probably feeling betrayed/tired/revengeful enough that he'll hear whatever gives him power and self-respect again.
I always thought it was more of a symbolic kinda thing. He knew they were just manifestations of his own heart, but killing them symbolically allowed him to "deal" with his own conflicting feelings.
So I guess Vergil was facing his demons?
Vergil murders the hell out of the source of those illusions, so he was in control of the situation. And considering said source was his doppelganger (with whom he tag teams in his Devil Trigger), I'd say he had a decent idea of what he was getting into, and there was only ever one path he would've chosen from the start.
Probably. It's not like it can happen without warning in the middle of a fight.
Could Dante be considered a Designated Hero? The games portrays him as being better than Vergil by the end, but to me, it seems the only thing that makes him 'better' is his love for Kat. Both brothers don't seem too worried that they left humanity in ruins. I could be wrong, but despite the desire to rule humans, Vergil at least wanted to help rebuild society, unlike Dante.
Well, Designated Hero happens when the story tries to tell you this character is heroic, but you notice he isn't. It's why the trope is YMMV. If you aren't convinced he's any real bit heroic, then it's a valid interpretation of the game's narrative failure.
Vergil does not respect humans as anything but tools — he's a racial supremacist who's much too willing to sacrifice human lives to forward his own plans. Dante outright says he will protect the world, and he's spent most of his life either being attacked and tortured by demons or running from them, so he can at least empathise with us (which is made clear in his friendship with Kat; they bond through their shared trauma). Dante is compassionate, Vergil is not. The story really ends too soon for us to see what form Dante's protection will take, but at least he won't be poisoning, mind-controlling, sacrificing, or attacking us. And Vergil, well, Vergil apparently stops loving his twin brother when the guy won't let him conquer the world. I know which one I find more heroic.