Remember not to ask things like "Why did <character> do <action> instead of <preferred action> in <time>?". In the second Q&A, Wizard specifically states the fights are not representative of who actually wins the Death Battle; the winner is decided well beforehand through research into the combatants. The fights are purely for entertainment purposes.
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Akuma vs Shang Tsung
Why was Shin Akuma and Oni not mentioned yet M. Bison had his Final Bison form?
I think Oni is considered a separate character with a different personality. Even though he used to be Akuma he isn't a transformation he can use anytime. As for Shin Akuma, it's not a transformation either, that's just him not holding back.
Rogue vs Wonder Woman
Why did Wiz and Boomstick match Wonder Woman to Rogue? Wonder Woman is an iconic character in the DC Universe and is part of their premier trio of superheroes (alongside Superman and Batman), while Rogue is nowhere near as iconic (even though she IS quite popular) and is tied more to the X-Men than the general Marvel Universe. Also, in terms of powers, Wonder Woman has Super Strength as one of her superpowers while Rogue's main power is absorbing other people's powers, which is why she even HAS Super Strength in the first place. And lastly, the trivia page mentioned that both of them wear oversexualized outfits, but Rogue's traditional costume, while skintight, is in no way revealing like Wonder Woman's. Considering all of these, wouldn't it have made more sense to match Wonder Woman to Ms. Marvel (or even She-Hulk) instead?
Most match ups are voted by fans, with the possible exception of Starscream and Rainbow Dash. Also judging how iconic a character is can be considered more opinion than fact, but they are still both quite popular characters.
Also as shown by The Most Common Super Power, you don't need to be revealing to have fanboys get involved in Rule34.
The Rogue they used and that many (I won't argue most as that would be hard to quantify) is the one from the 90's comics and cartoons. They very rarely mentioned Carol Danvers and a lot of people didn't know that she'd absorbed flight and super strength since every other power she absorbed went away naturally relatively quickly. Add on that Wonder Woman is rarely (and I mean by her parent company DC as much as fans) afforded the respect that she should rate as one of the Big Three. She's instead generally treated much like Green Lantern or Martian Manhunter as just a member of the team.
What is with Wizard's hate for Michelangelo?
Judging from what Wizard said, it could be because he uses Nunchaku, which aren't really weapons at all, that he's the least likely to actually be able to use such a complicated weapon, and Wizard doesn't think he really deserves the victories he has as a result of this.
Kratos vs Spawn
Kratos may have killed gods, but he can still die in very easy ways, especially during gameplay. In fact he once died from falling off a mountain, so this lack of immortality would have made him easily killed by Spawn's fatality move. This means that no matter how powerful Kratos is, Spawn survived and regenerated from all his injuries before the end of the match, while Kratos didn't recover from his injuries due to his mortality. Ultimately, Spawn could survive the fight longer than Kratos could. Also, Spawn can survive being impaled through the chest with a holy weapon; it happens multiple times in his canon. Because Spawn wasn't decapitated, he didn't die.
The assessment that Kratos does not know that Spawn needs to be decapitated. Maybe Kratos doesn't know that, but he beheads his enemies often enough, it seems reasonable he'd at least try it.
Even if he did try it, Spawn would never give him the chance to use the one and only weapon he has in a fatal manner. It's the only weapon that can physically harm him. Once he knows that he'll do his best to dispose of it and Kratos is thereby SOL
Digdug vs Bomberman
Digdug's secondary method of attack, crushing his enemies with underground rocks, isn't mentioned. Why not?
It's implied by the line about manipulating the environment to his advantage.
Why was Bomberman allowed to have a Rooey in the battle? Sure, it didn't help him much, but doesn't that go against the no-outside-help rule?
Rooey is considered more of a power-up. It was to show how Digdug would defeat superior enemies by his digging ability and ambushes. Also if it wasn't used, Bomberman fans would ask why Rooeys were not used. At the same time, Mario wasn't allowed to use Yoshi but then again Yoshi is not only a fully fleshed-out character but is able to fight without assistance. Also Batman wasn't allowed to use his Bat-Jet or Batmobile and Spider-Man does borrow Iron-Man's vehicles sometimes, but that would have been too awkward for a fist-fight.
Vegeta vs Shadow
Shadow's chaos control ability is described as not being useful in battle and shown only to teleport others. However in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (vs mode), Sonic Heroes (in team blast and as Metal Sonic's attack), and Shadow the Hedgehog (in boss battles)- Chaos Control can be used in combat by freezing or slowing down time, allowing Shadow to attack his enemy as they are frozen.
Why didn't Shadow win after he went super? he could have teleported Vegeta into the sun. Additionally, no dragon ball character has physically moved a heavenly body...
It's unknown how far away Chaos Control can send someone. Also Shadow didn't know Vegeta could survive on the moon or other planets, that's why Shadow sent Vegeta underwater or to the moon. By the time he had the chance to do it again, he was low on energy. Besides that's a cheap way to win, considering the fact that Shadow has never done that before.
Additionally, the hosts note that Vegeta has is capable of taking a prolonged beating from enemies that outclass him by a wide margin.
Mario vs Sonic
As the Mario vs Sonic match was focusing so much on the power-ups, some of Sonic's abilities were ignored. His Light Speed Attack and Homing Attack were not used and his wind attacks like the Tornado Jump (from Sonic Heroes) and Sonic Wind (from Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Battle) were not mentioned. His newest attack- Sonic Boost (which allows Sonic to charge into his opponents) also is ignored.
If fans are unsure of if a character deserved to win or if the rules of Death Battle are inconsistent among the episodes then it could upset some fans.
Why were Mario´s other powers ignored ? If we remove the power-ups he still is strong enough to lift a fortress, dodge cannonballs, endure being blasted into space, perform the same decapitating kick that Peach did, extensive pyrokinesis and the RPG badges. These powers would have been very decisive in the match´s outcome, so how come they were ignored ?
Sonic could not swim during the fight or the character analysis, despite more-or-less having learned how to in Sonic Colors and was able to survive off of air bubbles or recover with springs like in Sonic 1 or Sonic 2. Why wasn't this mentioned?
At some point in the battle, there's a Freeze-Frame Bonus in which Mario uses the Tanooki suit to turn into a statue. ...Why didn't Boomstick and Wizard mention the Tanooki suit if they were going to use it in the battle?
The Tanooki Suit only allows Mario to fly, tail-whip and turn invincible, but his other power-ups can do similar things. Wiz mentioned in some interviews that the research and status part of the video can be longer but the hosts don't want it to be too long, otherwise it would be a waste of time. They mentioned at the ending that because both fighters have power-ups that would negate each other- the outcome was determined by their basic skills. They also mentioned that using lesser known power-ups would yield a similar result as there are just too many used by both fighters to put in a single fight.
Rainbow Dash vs Starscream
For those who don't believe that Rainbow Dash can create explosions, there was such a move that debuted after the Death Battle episode. Fans dubbed it the Sonic-Rain-Nuke.
How was Rainbow Dash able to hurt Starscream? The Sonic Rainboom doesn't hit nearly hard enough to damage a giant robot.
The answer is provided in the battle: Rainbow Dash's bucking with her hind legs does nothing so she uses lightning bolts and his own missiles in addition the Sonic Rainboom which, in Friendship is Magic, can split rock with its shock-wave.
The methods used to calculate Rainbow Dash's speed are suspect. That graphic didn't act like a mach cone, and she wasn't producing a sonic boom at that point, or contrails, or other things that happen when one breaks the sound barrier. Technically, she doesn't make one while in the Sonic Rainboom state either, but that can be explained as a property of the Sonic Rainboom, which also allows her to basically ignore momentum and G-forces. However, even if the exact numbers used in the Death Battle are inaccurate, Rainbow's flying skills and agility will easily overwhelm someone as clumsy as Starscream.
The graphic may not have shown the mach cone, but the cartoon did.
Doomguy vs Master Chief
Although Doomguy's massive amount of weapons gives him superior firepower, Master Chief has Regenerating Health (because of his futuristic armor) and his plasma shield. This means that Doomguy's offense is countered by Master Chief's defenses. Doomguy, who rarely hides behind cover, is using a more primitive armor and so is more vulnerable.
Despite lacking in area of effect, the Spartan Laser had a near-instant travel time after being charged up, while the BFG 9000 needed to impact something first.
Although Doomguy (who can run 57mph) is technically faster than Master Chief (at least 50mph), it isn't fast enough to make a significant difference.
Doomguy might have had a somewhat unfair but canon-based advantage for his weapons as he brought more ammo to the fight. I.E, his rocket launcher has only 2-4 rockets available when first acquired, but Doomguy could find and carry up to 50 or even 100 rockets ingame. This means that in the fight, due to gameplay differences, Doomguy have maximum ammo while Master Chief needed to find and pick up weapons, being unable to stock up on their supply. This is why Doomguy was firing dozens of rockets while Master Chief ran out of ammo for his rifle. According to the experts, this is credited to Doomguy's experimental backpack.
Anybody wondering why the Unmaker was brought up if they were going to bring up that it couldn't The Master Chief because he's not a demon, it's because the fans would likely complain if it wasn't. The Death Battle hosts take into account any technicality, like how Kratos' weapons are technically not holy or unholy and so is not lethal to Spawn or how the Spirit Bomb cannot be used as a weapon against heroes like Superman.
Interestingly, however, the Doom Bible (where information about the Unmaker originates) says nothing about it feeding only on demonic energy, instead saying it feeds on human souls◊.
Eggman vs Wily
Many fans wanted to see Zero in Wily's army instead of Bass. Although both are Robot Masters and both have betrayed Wily multiple times, Bass is obviously more of a villain than Zero, who teams up with Megaman more frequently. Putting both of them in the match would have been unfair.
E-102 Gamma and E-123 Omega are not in Eggman's army obviously because they defected, even though Eggman created them. Infact, Omega is never seen under Eggman's control in the games.
The E-121 Phi robots are similar to the other Metal versions of the Sonic characters in terms of combat style (like Silver Sonic, Shadow Androids or Metal Knuckles). Also Phi and Gemerl's designs are from Emerl's design, not Eggman's original design. Beisdes, Gemerl's copy abilities are similar to Metal Sonic's anyways.
Tails Doll's combat abilities are unknown, despite being ABSOLUTELY EVIL.
Even if Scratch and Grounder were not used, Eggman has similar idiotic and useless robot duos (like Decoe and Bocoe from Sonic X and Orbot and Cubot from Sonic Colors). So even though Scratch and Grounder aren't from the main series, similar minions would have been used instead.
Only Eggman's ROBOTS that he created were allowed to fight, not his allies. This means some bosses like Chaos were not used.
Wily's Sheepman wasn't the only stupid-looking character that fans criticized (like Plantman or Springman). Like Sheepman, they are still dangerous despite their stupid nature.
In the games, E-101 Beta can automatically deflect or dodge projectiles and is only vulnerable after attacking. Magnetman's magnetshield does not disable robots, it only attracts them.
However, Beta's weakness was that he couldn't defend behind him as well, so Magnet Man destroying him made sense in that light.
Wily's army has been defeated by Megaman many times, mainly because of Megaman's copying abilities. Metal Sonic's copying abilities are more advanced than Megaman or Bass and even without the copying ability, Metal Sonic is still powerful offensively, defensively and is FASTER THAN SONIC.
Although Bass had copying abilities, he can only use it by taking the weapons of his enemies. Metal Sonic's superior speed would have allowed him to steal the weapons before Bass ever could (as seen with Napalmman and Silver Sonic's chaos emerald).
There are many reasons for the doctors' different armies.
Eggman uses more robots per level than Wily, but not all of the robots are as well equipped (like how not all of the Egg Pawns have guns).
The armies are to face their specific enemies. Eggman's army has more close combat robots because of Sonic's close combat fighting style. Wily's robots need to protect themselves from Megaman's blasters while still being able to fight back, which is why Wily has many defensive and long ranged units.
In some games like Sonic Adventure, some of Eggman's robots are used as PLATFORMS for Sonic's homing attacks. These 'platforms' don't attack.
Eggman's robots are infamous for being stupid, and their in-game AI is slow and ineffective.
Eggman is the boss at the end of most Sonic levels, while the Robot Masters are the bosses of Megaman's levels. This means Wily has more varieties of boss level robots, giving him better and more choices for a fight.
Many of Eggman's strongest Badniks are clones of other sonic characters (Silver Sonic, Metal Sonic, Mecha Sonic, Metal Knuckles, Egg Robo, Death Egg Robot). This means Eggman has less creativity and variety for his strongest warriors, and since they were designed to fight fast Sonic characters, they aren't designed to face a variety of skills.
Zelda vs Peach
Why did they treat Zelda like she's the same person in every game yet consider Link's in any incarnations throughout the series? The answer? Each Zelda he same powers in each game, except when she was Tetra or Sheik, so they stated that anything Zelda could do in those forms, she could do normally, so they combined them. Link was different throughout his games, at least in terms of abilities and powers, so they had more to combine.
Despite claiming that Zelda would still have Sheik's abilities, this didn't appear to impact the fight, as Zelda wasn't using ninja-like speed or martial arts. Also, Melee and Brawl (where Zelda's powers in this fight were taken from) show clearly that transforming into Shiek drastically changes Zelda's fighting style and abilities.
Why did they give Peach every ability she's had and handed Zelda exclusively Super Smash Bros attacks? If Peach gets non-canon abilities like Mega Empress Peach and they're going to refer to the Zelda in the cartoons, why was she not given anything from say... Wand Of Gamelon? As was stated in the post-battle, Peach has few lethal moves; she throws turnips, hits people with her parasol, but she needed a Finishing Move to make this a Death Battle. Secondly, Wiz wanted an excuse to geek out with force equations and this was his only opportunity to do this
Why does Peach get a move she only had in the sports games when Mario and Yoshi didn't? Were they trying to go against expectations by digging around and giving her extra stuff that they didn't give Mario and Yoshi. It comes down to availability and impressiveness. Peach... doesn't do all that much. She's given a lot less to work with, her most impressive stuff is from the sports games and there isn't enough main canon of her to prove her actions are out-of-continuity. Mario and Yoshi have enough canon appearances to make inclusion of the sports games unnecessary, have more impressive non-sports stuff, and have enough canon appearances to force the discarding of some sports games' abilities as not-canon due to lack of other appearance (much like they did Mario's Paper Mario limit-break stuff and innate Firehand). Finally for Peach Its MARIO-VERSE. There is no consistency of abilities, statistics, or armament, only Rule of Fun. Any attempt at nailing down anything resembling a definitive ability set is going to involve unreasonable amounts of finagling.
As for Zelda; she doesn't do much outside of Brawl or Melee. In Ocarina of Time we don't see her fight as ninja; the only fighting is the paralyzing beam she used on Ganon. In Winder Waker, we don't see her fight as a pirate; only with the light bow which does make an appearance in the fight. If they used non-canon sources for one character, they must for another. The difference is, the non-canon sources for Peach are significantly more canon than the non-canon sources for Zelda. The ones used for Peach were official Nintendo games and part of major a Mario series, with all the quality of production thereof, whereas the non-canon sources for Zelda are products of American cartoon writers and the Philips CD-i, with little official input and less formal approval. Both are non-canon, but one is canon minus 1, whereas the other is canon minus twelve. Comparing them is comparing apples and oranges- both are non-canon/fruit, but they are very different kinds of non-canon/fruit.
Why didn't Wiz or Boomstick bring up all the kickass stuff Peach does in the Nintendo Power comics. In that comic she actually saves Mario and unkidnaps herself. Why wasn't this mentioned? It could've given her victory a lot more credibility.
Thor vs Raiden
Why does Thor block Raiden's electric attacks with Mjlonir if electricity can't hurt him?
Likely because Thor is arrogant and wanted to show Raiden that he couldn't even touch him unless he allowed it.
Although immune to the damage, the electricity could make him flinch. Also both combatants are unaware of each other's powers, so Thor might not have known what kind of attacks Raiden was using.
Link vs Cloud
Why didn't Wiz and Boomstick have Cloud use his Fusion Swords? The same could be said for Link's Fierce Deity form or Biggoron Sword. These are not the weapons they use in Smash Bros/Dissidia, nor are they the weapons they're most commonly attributed to. The same thing happened with Mario vs Sonic, too. Once you started getting into the more obscure power-ups, it all sort of evened out with the power-levels going into absurd levels, to the point the fight stops being about skill and starts becoming more about the obscure over-powered techniques... That would rarely change a straight up fight in the end anyway. Bottom line, they went with the gear Cloud and Link are both most comfortable with. Cloud with the Buster Sword, Link with the Master Sword. Going into excruciating detail with swords they weren't going to use... Seems a bit overkill even for this show. The experts look at the entire canon as a whole and use abilities that are consistent throughout the canon.
Cloud's equipment in general was a bit of a headscratcher. How does "Cloud limits his materia" translate to "he only uses 2 low level types"? Why did they use Dissidia as a metric, but not give him any of his EX Mode benefits?
Link has fought against Ganondorf and Demise, who both are powerful in both strength and magical abilities. Link can block their attacks and survive a few slashes even when they wield their own legendary swords (and this is WITHOUT the Golden Gauntlets). Link's experience against superhuman swordsmen helped him defeat Cloud. If Cloud was allowed to use more abilities or weapons, so would Link. Even though Cloud is superhuman, Link's magical weapons would have countered it.
Neither of them have shown the amount of speed or reaction time on Clouds level. Sure Link has Z-targetting but it's still not fast enough for a bullet timer, and is mostly a gameplay gimmick. On the other hand, Cloud's games are turn-based Role Playing Games, meaning that just one attack from him takes an entire 'turn' to activate or rest from. This means that although Cloud appears fast, it's only because of the combos in his attack, but as the RPGs show- Cloud is vulnerable after attacking. Even the other superhuman combatants cannot spam their attacks because they don't have the stamina for it.
How was Cloud stunned by Link's boomerang when he had a ribbon, which protects from all status ailmentsnote "like burns and stuns", according to Boomstick? Indeed it nullified the freeze effect of the ice arrow.
It just threw him off balance since he didn't expect it. "Stuns" likely meant more paralysis than being taken by surprise. The boomerang is strong enough to kill giant skull spiders bigger than him. If you got hit in the back by something that strong, you'd be unconscious at best. Cloud's superhuman strength kept him up, but he was still disoriented enough to give Link time to retrieve his sword. Plus, Link has fast reflexes and the Clawshot is rather quick, so the sequence we saw might have been slower than how it would've really happened.
It's said that one reason Link won was that the Master Sword's anti-evil powers were effective against Cloud's Jenova cells. Now, I haven't played FFVII for a long time, but wasn't it a big twist in that game that Cloud was never actually a member of SOLDIER, and thus shouldn't have any Jenova cells?
He was not a member of SOLDIER, but he did have Jenova cells, because Hojo used the survivors of the Nibelheim massacre to try to "clone" Sephiroth. It is, however, a questionable interpretation that the Master Sword would be effective against Jenova cells. Revive doesn't kill Cloud, does it?
Why exactly is Cloud "not the brightest fighter"?
Batman vs Spider-Man
Batman fans believe that if Batman had prepared himself then he would have used better choices for gadgets against Spider-Man. However Spider-Man has faced this problem before- gadget villains Mysterio and The Chameleon tried to use weapons designed to defeat Spider-Man, yet Spider-Man won thanks to his spider-sense protecting him from the gadgets.
Also Spider-Man has been able to use a variety of gadgets facing his enemy's weakness (something that Batman does against supervillains and the Justice League). For instance, Spider-Man created an acid to burn through Rhino's armor or a rubber suit against Electro's electricity. This justifies the claim that if Spidey had prep time he could still win. Also it is unknown exactly how both fighters would prepare for each other and using weapons that canonically they never use would had made this fight confusing to fans.
Outside of the Avengers and Justice League universes, Spider-Man faces more powerful and superhuman villains (Doc Oct, Green Goblin, Rhino, Venom). Most of Batman's villains are ordinary street thugs with mental disorders (Penguin, Joker, Two-Face, Black Mask), and Batman has experience using the weaknesses of his enemies with superpowers (when fighting Bane, Batman always cuts the Venom tubes).
Spider-Man fights against Electro and Shocker, who use lethal amounts of electricity. Batman's taser is too weak to be lethal to a NORMAL human, so Spidey could easily shrug it off.
It should be noted that Shocker, despite the name, does not use electricity. He uses highly compressed air blasts, aka "shockwaves".
Like in the comics, Spider-Man is quick to adapt to a new enemy's fighting style. Batman began reusing weapons which Spider-Man could counter, like redirecting the explosive batarang at the end of the fight.
And as the experts mentioned, Spider-Man survived lethal explosives at point blank. Batman has mostly non-lethal explosives but for his lethal explosives, Spider-Man could survive them and still fight.
Batman's armor is lightweight, even his heaviest common armor has to be light and weak to allow him to be agile. The armor used is the Dark Knight style armor, which is much heavier than his armor in the 1990s tv series but still light enough to make him avoid gunmen. Actually, early Batman comics had him wear little to no armor at all. Even with heavy armor, Batman can be injured and potentially killed by superhumans (Killer Croc and Bane, both having strength similar to Spider-Man, could inflict lethal injuries to a fully armored Batman).
Spider-Man has defeated armored enemies before, like The Rhino or some depictions of The Green Goblin, Scorpion and Shocker. Spider-Man's strength allows him to hurt armored enemies.
Batman's martial art is more skilled than Spider-Man, who has no formal training. However Spider-Man's agility, strength and spidey-sense has allowed him to fight similar martial artists evenly (ex. Kraven the Hunter, Captain America and Wolverine).
Still many fans cannot accept the outcome due to Batman's status as a Memetic Badass. But when you consider the fact that Spider-Man has defeated the badasses Punisher and Wolverine, then defeating Batman is very possible.
Spider-Man is also an expert at using the environment around him as a weapon, throwing heavy objects like parts of buildings or boulders with his web. If this was used in the fight it would be devastating against the lightly armored Batman.
Despite having Spidey Sense, Batman could still hit Spider-Man with A FEW of his attacks. The Spidey-Sense doesn't always activate and sometimes it doesn't react fast enough to save Spidey. However as Spider-Man became more cautious later in the fight, he was able to dodge more effectively. It is Spider-Man's cocky personality that made him vulnerable at the beginning on the roof.
This can be easily explained. The spider sense was activating, but wasn't specific enough. It tells him what danger is and where it's coming from, doesn't always inform him what the danger IS. One comic it activated by a guy walking by him with a gun in his coat. He knew the guy somehow was dangerous, but not why. Batman's exploding Batarang may of still of triggered the sense, but Spider-Man assumed it's just a sharp object, not because it is a explosive.
Batman's feat of defeating the Justice League had little impact on this fight's outcome because Batman did not use his default gadgets to take out the Justice League. Batman researched his friends for several months and developed gadgets specifically designed for them. Since Batman was not allowed to research Spider-Man and had to use his basic weapons, Batman was vulnerable. As seen in the Justice League franchise, some villains like Parasite or Darkseid are so powerful that Batman alone has never been able to defeat him with his normal weapons, so a superhuman like Spider-Man would be similarly difficult.
While Batman has a versatile arsenal of tools in the Utility Belt, Spider-Man is able to be very creative with his webs. Spider-Man can produce sticky traps, parachutes, can throw large rocks and cars with his web and can create a bulletproof shield made only of web. He can also mix chemicals into his webbing like rubber to be electric resistant or acid to burn through armor, though he only does this when prepared to fight some enemies (i.e. Electro's electric attacks and Rhino's armor).
There is a common misconception that Spider-Man's web is fragile. The truth is multiple shots of web can tie down most opponents, even Hulk and Rhino. A single shot of web can be broken, but only by someone with superhuman strength or a sharp blade. But normal humans, even ones as strong as the obese Kingpin, cannot escape being entangled in one or two shots of web, so it is accurate that Batman would need more time to escape the webbing at the end (which is made of about a dozen web shots).
Could someone tell me in what issue Spider-Man was denied entry into the Justice League? I'm pretty sure that the cover we saw was just fanart.
Blanka vs Pikachu
According to the Death Battle, here are the predicted stats of Ash's Pikachu based on evidence from the canons and the EV training from early seasons.
HP 182 (Below Average for most Pokemon)
Attack 144 (Average)
Defense 108 (Below Average)
Special At. 123 (Average though high for a normal Pikachu)
Special Def. 80 (Below Average)
Speed 291 (Above Average, mostly from fighting Sparrows in the first episode)
Although Blanka was trained by Dan Hibiki, much of his fighting style is based on his survivalist lifestyle. Poor training had little effect on Blanka's skill in this sense, beside Dan might be a joke character but he still is a martial artist and even poor training can be helpful.
Since Pikachu is so light and small, he had to use his speed and electricity as his weapons. As Blanka is already agile and resistant to electric eel electricity, Pikachu could not defeat Blanka's power.
Why was Blanka treated as a Pokemon? He is very much a human who gained the power to give off electric charges. He really shouldn't have been given any resistance to electricity or especially not steel type moves. Along the same lines, why was voltage not mentioned? Pikachu gives off electric charges in the millions of volts and electric eels give one off more akin to 500. This wasn't even mentioned at all though.
Blanka is resistant to electricity, otherwise the electric eels that he EATS would have killed him. They didn't call Blanka a pokemon, but he is without a doubt an electric user, and as shown with Raiden and Thor, many characters who use electricity are resistant to voltage.
Why did Pikachu's Static ability never kick in? It works despite normal type matchups, including against other Electrics and the normally No Sell Ground type.
In the anime (which is where Ash's Pikachu is from) the Static ability happens by chance. It doesn't always work.
True, Static does indeed happen by chance, but that's a flimsy justification considering Death Battles tendency to factor-in things that only happen by chance as well (having all power-ups at the ready/appearing at the right time, being in a certain environment, learning of weaknesses during the fight, potential adaption to attacks, Peach pulling out certain items against Zelda, ANY time an ultimate move is brought into play, etc.)
I'm not 100% certain, but doesn't pikachus' iron tail have the ability to completely shatter solid rock? If so, why didn't it turn Blankas head into Chili the moment it made contact? I know the fight simulations aren't always totally accurate and usually Just for Fun but still.
Also, even if it doesn't liquify Blankas' head, why didn't it leave any lasting injuries on Blanka besides a momentary stun? A blow that big could probably cause some debilitating concussions if not worse.
I would think Blanka, who spent his life WRESTLING GATORS, can take a lot of damage.
One thing I found odd was that this was Ash's Pikachu ... a Pikachu that's known for "losing" Pokemon battles against bigger and fiercer Pokemon. Sure it's a valuable member of Ash's team, but this Pikachu wouldn't have stood a chance against Blanka to begin with.
How about if the "Pikachu" in question was actually Red's Pikachu ... I still think Blanka would've won but the Pikachu would've stood more of a chance.
Why did they not take into account information on the electricity itself? The Emerald Pokedex states that Pikachu electricity is equal to real lightning, and Blanka could at most withstand the electricity of the eels. I see no way that sort of resistance could hold up to Blanka being shocked twice even.
Superman vs Goku
What the hell was Vegeta up to when the fight started to get really intense? Was he just sitting there at the house (featured at the beginning of the video) watching TV with his thumb up his ass and saying, "My friend and fellow protector of the Earth is just absorbing a gigantic Spirit Bomb to fight the alien that he's worried will destroy the world. It's no big deal, and absolutely nothing I'm concerned with."
It was mentioned in the Vegeta vs Shadow fight that Vegeta can only reach super saiyan level 2. Perhaps Vegeta figured that if it got bad enough for Goku's to absorb the frickin' energy of the sun, there was really nothing his (comparatively) weak super saiyan 2 self could do to help.
Or maybe World's Dumbest was on and he really wanted to see the #1 video.
For something that he put off helping his friend in a fight to the death to watch, it better have been worth it.
It should be noted that pre-crisis Superman can escape black holes, go back in time by spinning the world backwards, be immune to any punch thrown by The Incredible Hulk and, as mentioned, DESTROY SOLAR SYSTEMS BY SNEEZING. Obviously this made Superman's limitations and abilities too random and illogical to measure, so they used the more definitive post-crisis Superman to keep the results and researching accurate, not because they feared Goku would lose but because the reasoning behind the battle would be impossible to explain. Furthermore, Crisis on Infinite Earths changes the DC Universe entirely in terms of canon. If pre-Crisis Superman is considered canon along with the evens from Crisis, then the universe of pre-Crisis Superman was changed, and so the logic that applies to Superman is the same logic used in modern post-Crisis depictions, NOT pre-Crisis.
Other moments of asspulling include Superman rebuilding the Great Wall of China with some type of heat vision variation, reviving a dead girl with "Super-Heart Massage", amnesia kissing and other superpowered kisses, MIND CONTROL, talking on the police radio frequency, ice breath that can rapidly age its target, can stop his heartbeat, the ability to eat endlessly without getting full (almost like Goku), and shapeshifting by pulling his body with his hands. [http://comiccoverage.typepad.com/comic_coverage/superpowers-that-time-forgot]
Why did Goku get preparation time and supplies and Superman didn't? He has a literal fortress full of things that could have helped him in a fight against Goku, according to the rules of Death Battle why did Goku get extra prep time and information?
I'm not sure what you mean by prep time (Goku flew off almost as soon as he heard about Supes), but "supplies" are only out if it's not iconic to the character. For example, Batman may have wielded a gun once or twice in his many incarnations spanning decades of entertainment and across several media, but it's not part of who he is as a character. The Batarangs, for example, are a very iconic weapon of his and thus were allowed in his fight against Spiderman. Weapons are an integral part of who Link and Cloud are, and thus they fought with their strongest weapons and most useful equipment when they faced off. The senzu beans and the Power Pole and may or may not be iconic (I'm not aware of DBZ fandom), but hey, what else could Wiz and Boomstick do to make the indisputable magnum opus of their web series not turn into a 5+ minute Pummel Duel? Give Goku some gear to spice up the action, of course. I suspect they also gave him extra supplies to soften the (in hindsight) enormous edge Superman had.
That wasn't an edge. Suerman wielded a wholly different kind of sword altogether.
Why are they using Dragonball GT? Even the die-hard versus fans don't like to use it but they said they'd use anything that doesn't contradict the original manga. For Goku, see the previous paragraph. Death Battle always use the latest depictions of the characters at their oldest age as an active, fit warrior, so it applies here with Goku.
Foreshadowing: On a meta level, even without the data, the outcome of Goku Vs Superman was seemingly decided before the match starts if you look at the aesops some Death Battles have stealthily snuck in:
The popular character will not always win. Spawn Vs Kratos was a clear example. Goku is more popular amongst nerd culturenote At the very least his feats are more well known.
Underestimating Badassery: Has happened numerous amounts of times in other battles such as Yoshi Vs Riptor and Peach Vs Zelda where the loser was thought to have won before either research was conducted or the match was released. The Man of Steel sometimes gets the short stick because he's always holding back and Goku has never blown up planets in canon.
Characters who exert a pre-emptive attack before the FIGHT! animation and sound tend to lose. Goku unleashed a ki blast on Superman before that happened.
Characters who are "waiting" for the other character to enter the battlefield tend to win. Superman was already there and Goku then showed up.
The win/loss trivia fact gives this conclusion as well: Vegeta won his battle, Wonder Woman and Batman lost both of theirs. Interestingly enough Superman has actually TRAINED with both of them before
Link's victory over Cloud, and Leonardo's over Zitz, shows that just attacking to the end will not always yield victory. Goku's simple mindedness cost him the match
Strangely Mike Haggar having a political agenda and therefore less trained than Zangief is the only aesop that does not apply here since Goku has trained more often to better himself. However, much unlike Haggar, Superman doesn't have to train, he's strong enough without doing so.
Despite many inconsistencies with the powers of Superman and Goku, many parts of the fight do have truth in canon.
DBZ characters allowing their foes to fight at full power is a common trope in the series, which normally ends up bad for the overconfident or honorable characters.
Freeza's destruction of Namek, Gero's bombs and Kid Buu's destruction of Earth almost killed Goku while Cell self destructing (with enough force to destroy the world) did kill Goku before, meaning Goku has never been able to survive a planet destroying explosion. Superman however, can survive supernova explosions, which can destroy multiple planets with a much larger blastforce and blastradius than a single planet explosion. Also even if he survived the explosion, Goku would have suffocated in space. This issue is mentioned near the end of the Freeza Saga when Freeza claims that Saiyans cannot survive prolonged in outer space.
As mentioned by the experts, Superman's character is based on the idea of having no limits while Goku's character is based on getting stronger while still showing limits.
Goku has defeated Cooler and Baby by sending them into the sun, so it is realistic that Goku would try to kill Superman the same way. As Death Battle rules point out, combatants cannot learn of each other's limits or powers before a fight, so Goku didn't know that Superman could be energized by the sun. Also Goku isn't very smart, so probably wouldn't have realized it anyways. Even if Goku didn't do this, Superman was flying towards the sun anyways so the result could still be the same.
Superman was 'killed' by Doomsday mainly because the battle took place at night, when Superman is weakest. However Superman can easily fly to the other side of the planet, when it is daytime.
Superman, even at normal levels, is significantly more powerful than normal Goku or Super Saiyan 1 Goku, meaning Goku suffered alot of damage early on in the fight compared to Superman.
A major reason to why Superman could keep up with Goku's transformations is that Superman intentionally limits his strength, even against his greatest foes, due to his pacifist nature and for fear that he will cause serious destruction if unrestrained. As the battle continued, Superman adapted to Goku's power levels. This is why Superman said "I haven't even begun to play".
The reason why Superman flew away after saying this was because the sun was setting, so he was flying to the DBZ arena when it was about noon or when the sun is highest during the day. It also got them away from the city. Superman was ensuring that his battle with Goku wouldn't harm anyone else (even if it didn't mean anything in the long run).
Goku's powerpole was barely used in DBZ or GT, meaning Goku didn't have much training with it and couldn't rely on it for the fight.
Instant Transmition requires concentration, meaning Goku would need to touch Superman during the fight and teleport him without Superman's speed attacking him first.
According to the Death Battle, here are the predicted stats of Goku at SSJ4 and Superman based on evidence from the canons.
Superman can lift 200 quintillion tons, compared to an estimated 160,000 tons from Goku. This is a difference of 1.25*10^15 or 1.25 quadrillion times the strength of Goku. This difference in strength can be visible in their fighting styles. Superman is more willing to throw or slam heavy buildings, mountains or planes onto his opponents while Goku has rarely done so.
Superman can fly 9.4billion km/hr or 5.9billion miles/hr (while fighting Wonder Woman) but may be able to fly with an estimated 17billion km/hr according to Batman (if this is true, Superman can fly 6.48 times lightspeed). Goku is calculated to fly at 2,574,000,000 km/hr or 1,600,000,000 mph or 2.3 times lightspeed. This makes Superman AT LEAST 3 times faster than SSJ4 Goku (as Superman's fastest recorded speed was while he was distracted in a fight).
Superman was recorded surviving 10 Octillion Megatons of blasting force, while Goku was calculated to survive 35 Sextillion megatons (his Ki Output is similar to his durability). This makes Superman survive 285714 times the blasting force that Goku can.
Many of the stats listed here for Superman are official while Goku's was calculated by the Death Battle hosts. Even if Goku's figures are off, even by 1000 times the actual amount, Superman would still dominate Goku in Defense and Obliterate him in physical strength. As shown in DBZ canon, characters increase in both ki and defenses at similar rates and a DBZ character can only be injured if their opponent is at a similar or stronger power level.
Saiyans are not as naturally superhuman as Kryptonians. Other than Super Saiyan (which was one so rare as to be a myth) and Great Ape (which requires training to avoid a feral mind), and the ability to get stronger after near-death experiences Saiyans lack many superpowers unless they train. Goku as a baby had the strength of an ordinary human baby. He needed a lifetime of supernatural training to make him powerful. Being a Saiyan didn't contribute to his powerlevel until he achieved Super Saiyan for the first time. This is why humans like Tien and Krillin were able to almost keep up with Goku's power until later in the DBZ series. Kryptonians on the other hand can lift cars effortlessly while a toddler. Goku needed training from Master Roshi before he could demonstrate similar strength, and Goku was much older than a toddler at that time. At younger ages, Superman could lift large buildings.
Why did they use Goku lifting 40 tons as a basis for his strength? Goku's base strength was shown here [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8SfpOj6vmU]. They clearly mention 40 tons as Goku's base limit. Even if theoretically Goku had became a million times stronger by the end of the GT series, he would not be a match for Superman's strength. Also, 40 tons is a reasonable amount of striking force needed to send someone into a mountain, especially if you combine the Ki of the characters with the flying speed of the attacker. He would still end up being far weaker than Superman. Goku (in Super Saiyan 4 form) struggles to lift up part of a city in this clip; that's child's play for Supes. He's has been shown to easily punch people into orbit, claiming that they are sent flying at mach 7. Goku's punches have never demonstrated that much force.
It is common knowledge that the energy in Goku's spirit bomb comes from all living thing and not his own ki pool, so in theory there really is no limit to how powerful a spirit bomb could get. If given enough time and energy it is possible for Goku to make a spirit bomb powerful enough to kill even superman. Even though the spirit bomb is effective against evil beings, that doesn't mean it wouldn't do any damage to a good being. The core issue is the long charging time, particularly when fighting somebody as fast as Superman. In canon, the only times Goku has used the Spirit Bomb have been when he's had allies to cover for him and keep the opponent busy, which is out of the question in a 1-on-1; if he used it, he'd be pummeled before he could get a full charge, and he knows it. There is also the issue that the Spirit Bomb can be deflected by beings with pure spirits Superman, having proven himself with feats like lifting Mjonir in a Marvel/DC crossover and generally being an All-Loving Hero, would be able to deflect the Spirit Bomb.
As for the Destructo Disk, the problem is twofold. One its extremely easy to dodge (even in the hands of an experienced user like Krillin using it in its intended situation of a surprise attack), and two, Goku isn't terribly familiar with it, having only used it once or twice. Goku isn't terribly experienced using it, he doesn't like surprise attacks and lacks a distraction, and Superman is fast enough to dodge it without appearing to move at all. There's a reason why, in DBZ, everybody prefers continuous beams to small projectiles, and that's likelihood of hitting. In the unlikely chance that it did hit, even the strongest non-magical or non-kryptonite blades could only at best lacerate his skin- this includes energy infused blades. I see no evidence that Superman can be killed by slicing attacks under normal conditions and the Destructo Disk has 'shattered' before- especially since Goku hasn't mastered or perfected this attack. It would be like if Batman defeated Spider-Man with knockout gas- yes its possible but a cheap way to win a fight.
It should be mentioned that Superman can't lift Mjolnir on his own. He fails to do so after the crisis and Thor tells him that the restriction had been lifted during the battle.
The speed calculation for Goku doesn't sound accurate with all the near death power ups and training he did later. This is where math comes in. Boomstick mentioned here-> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwN0O4iNnrM&feature=youtu.be&t=16m] <- that they did account for Goku's later training methods in his heavier gravity environments and used it in the calculation. They used the Snake Way calculations to determine how fast he was after becoming accustomed to 10x gravity. They then used that figure to find out his speed had he spent that time in standard Earth gravity (1x) instead, and then multiplied that figure by the highest equivalent weight measurement he's seen training under (40 tons, or 586x gravity, being his upper limit in base form). After that, Goku's training seemed to be focussed less on increasing his base power and more on achieving and perfecting his various techniques and transformations, such as the ability to go SSJ2 effectively effortlessly, meaning that his maximum stats would be covered by the Super Saiyan multipliers.
It should be noted that "they would have to be really far off for it to matter" is a logical fallacy. They could very well be off by trillions of times. They could also be off in the opposite direction; they do not seem to have accounted for the fact that it takes infinite energy to reach the speed of light. That the equations are unreliable means that NO reasonable conclusion either way can be drafted from them. Also, while ignoring this physical law, they invoked Newton's Laws to put a cap on Goku's Ki.
Power levels are even more irrelevant when you consider the fact that Superman's power levels were not measured by the DBZ's definition of what a power level is.
Instant Transmition being 'instant' instead of being light-speed is an important distinction considering Superman can easily fly faster than light-speed.
In the comic series [[Superman: Red Son]], Superman survives Braniac's self destructing spaceship, which detonated with the energy of 6 black holes. Since black holes are formed by supernova explosions and Lex Luthor hinted that the ship had similar explosive power to a supernova explosion, that means Superman survived about 60 Octillion Megatons of force and be 1,714,284 times more durable than Goku's predicted durability as SSJ4.
If Coldcast's claim is true, then Superman can easily survive 15 supernova explosions at point blank, which is 150 Octillion Megatons making Superman at least 4,285,710 times more durrable than Goku.
The makers of Superman The Animated Series confirmed in commentary that they gave Superman more limitations in the animated adaptation to make the show more entertaining by making it look like Superman could lose. This reflects Boomstick's notion that 'Superman is inconsistent because writers do whatever the hell they please.' http://youtu.be/Qdsm6U3YahQ
He-Man vs Lion-O
He-Man's use of Battle Cat is justified and countered by Lion-O's mind control powers. So what should have been an unfair advantage benefiting He-Man ended up hurting him.
Not even that! Battle Cat was launched into the sky before the fight even officially started and didn't land again until after it had ended.
It is possible that the Power of Grayskull could counter the Eye of Thundera long enough for He-Man to destroy the Eye considering BOTH magical forces use nearly unlimited power. This is how He-Man survived such a blast. Also consider the fact that He-Man have performed impossible feats in the past anyways.
Robocop vs Terminator
Where did Terminator's plasma rifle come from? The films explicitly state that non-organic (well, non-living) material can't be sent back in time.
Look's like it was stored inside the torso. Mind you, the plasma rifle shouldn't be collapsible like that, but sometimes details have to be excused to cover all the variables for the characters.
The hosts like using as many weapons as possible for a warrior so they don't appear to have overlooked anything. This is why SS 4 Goku is addressed despite many people considering it non-canon or Luke's short lightsaber despite it not being in the movies.
The fight is meant for entertainment and not what would actually happen, but why did Robocop have ordinance grenades in his right leg when the rundown specifically says they're in the left leg? Did the animator not know that and just not think to have Robo change out the weapon arm for the regular one first?
The fight had some obvious visual bugs, but I doubt this would be an issue for the outcome of a fight.
While the Terminator has a Coltan alloy, it is only derived from a half percentage of coltan and is only designed to give him resistance to heat. Remember that the T850 is a mass produced machine while Robocop was a well funded single project. The quality of the Terminator's metals would be inferior than Robocop's because the T850 are mass produced, meaning that the Skynet factories cut costs by limiting the quality of the metal. This also explains why Terminator is slightly heavier than Robocop yet has inferior armor. The thicknesses of the armor also were not addressed. Terminator's endoskeleton also has more gaps in its structural design, which explains why it would be vulnerable to point blank explosions like Kyle Reese's pipebomb.
It should be noted that Robocop's face is simply his old face over a metal skull, NOT his old skull or head. That means Terminator could not simply shoot Robocop in the face to kill him.
Any fully automatic weapon can jam pretty easily if the bullet rounds jam inside the barrel. The minigun is no exception. It is also possible that Robocop may have jammed the gun's rotatory mechanisms to prevent the barrels from spinning.
The answer is obviously Rule of Drama, but wouldn't it been a bit more practical if Robocop just threw Terminators soon-to-go-kaboom remains into the air for it to explode instead of spending several suspenseful seconds strapping the remain onto his jetpack? The guy can hurl a car with ease (which he did in the fight) so an estimated 200-250 pounds of Terminator remains shouldn't be difficult to send into high altitudes. Like I said, I'm well aware it's for drama purposes only but its just an observation.
Because what goes up comes down. It's possible if he threw him that he would just fall back on Robocop and kill him. With a jetpack you know he's not coming down.
Yes, that's one way of looking at it, but the jetpack was damaged from T-850s grenade launcher and when it was shown again, sparks were emanating from it, but luckily for Robo, it went as planned.
It's likely that most of the damage was to the jetpack's control systems. The engine still worked, he just couldn't steer the damn thing. He couldn't use it for it's intended purpose but it could still go in a straight line, which is just what he needed at that point.
There have been many misconceptions over what actually effects the abilities and fighting skill to make a warrior win a Death Battle.
Yoshi, Thor and Spider-Man proved that even though one character is from a more kid-friendly franchise (compared to their enemies Riptor, Raiden and Batman) doesn't mean they are weaker in battle. This misconception is more confusing when some kid-friendly series avoid death or murder, sometimes censoring close-combat entirely (this makes the audience less aware of the characters' abilities, especially when Death Battle demands all combatants to show no mercy and attempt to murder each other).
Another misconception is that a more beloved or popular character is a superior combatant. For example, Mario maybe more popular than Spawn or Kratos, but it doesn't automatically mean he could win against them.
It is also believed that the destruction a character can create relates to their battlefield performance. Although it is true that Kratos could kill gigantic Titans, the mythical creatures he faces are still similar to Spawn's demons. Even though Cloud can cut through skyscrapers, it doesn't mean he can penetrate the indestructible Hylian Shield.
Many fans have noticed if two fighters have a significant difference in intelligence, the more intelligent tactician would win. However Zelda, Dr. Eggman, Dr Wily and Raiden were defeated; Raiden being overwhelmed by Thor's strength and the Doctors being obliterated by the god-like Metal Sonic. (Spider-Man vs Batman doesn't really count because both warriors have similar intelligence, Taokaka and Felicia are both pretty stupid and Leonardo is a superior tactician to Donatello despite Donatello's enormous IQ).
Some characters like Spider-Man and Batman have a limited supply of ammo for their weapons while some superhumans like Taokaka and Spawn have a limited supply of their magic and powers. However the fights don't last long enough for depletion of ammo to be a problem for these warriors (exceptions being Super Sonic, Super Shadow and Mario's invincibility powerups). Taokaka and Spawn can technically get more power during the fight, Taokaka can find new locations to absorb seithr while Spawn can absorb the evil energies of his enemies. Also some depictions of Spider-Man have him carry spare web magazines for his web shooters if they ever run out.
He just cannot stand the character enough to do adequate research.
It should be noted that it is difficult to compare characters normally if there is no basis to compare them with under these circumstances the hosts calculate how powerful a character would be based on elements and feats shown in canon.
It is difficult to confirm how lethal Doomguy's and Master Chief's weapons are since they use different technology and face foes with different armor or durability.
It is also difficult to measure the lethality of a Kamehameha against someone like Superman as some DBZ villains like Broly showed no visible damage from a point blank Kamehameha yet was defeated by a full power one in the same film. Since it is hard to tell Broly's defenses from Superman's as both appear indestructible- they had to resort to calculations.
What would they do with characters that always fight with a partner? Like in Soul Eater where meisters wield other characters as weapons for their default form of fighting.
The show has made certain exceptions, and since Soul Eater characters function more as weapons than as separate characters it could be possible. At the same time Pikachu wasn't allowed to have Ash command him. Maybe if the fight is 2 on 2 it would be allowed.