Why did Princess Celestia assign Twilight Sparkle's living quarters to the library? More specifically, why did she assign Spike's quarters at the library? Still more specifically, why did she let the fire breathing dragon live inside a wooden tree and surrounded by flammable, paper books?
Said tree is specifically mentioned to have a magical lightning rod. I don't think magical sprinklers are out of the question.
Said dragon's flames merely teleport paper material to the princess, as evidenced by Spike's hiccup and the rain of scrolls on Princess Celestia. Lady knows what she's doing.
Said paper materials fall on Celestia's head. Lady hasn't thought her cunning plan all the way through.
The book's ashes didn't fly out the window to Celestia. It's the scrolls that are magical, not the fire.
The best explanation this troper has run across is that ponies (or at least unicorns) communicate via specially prepared scrolls which, when burned, reappear in the fireplace of the addressee. Because Twilight moves around frequently for field work or at the request of the princess but is almost always accompanied by Spike, he is registered as her "fireplace" for postal purposes. Spike's fire acts normally when used for cooking and burns other paper normally; those specially prepared postal scrolls are the only things teleported.
Said dragon's flames also destroy books, as evidenced by Spike's dragon flames destroying books.
Yes but the binding didn't burst into flames with the rest of the book, so the bindings on Equestrian books are probably fire proofed and water proofed given the number of unicorns that practice magic that exist.
Spike has good control over his fire. We see him burn a book on accident all of once, and he reacted like it had never happened before.
According to Ms. Faust Spike's sending ability is a learned skill taught to him by Princess Celestia. Since breathing fire is a natural part of a dragon's biology, his sending skill is probably like tensing a muscle, he can do it whenever he wants, but it can also happen accidentally.
As for assigning Twilight to live in the library, it's Twilight. She would've gone there everyday if she lived in a normal house anyway.
Isn't that just a little ironic that Ponyville's library, a place for those who obviously like to read, is marked with picture of a book?
It is indeed, but since nowhere else has text in its sign, it would be weirder if the library broke the pattern.
From a more meta perspective, the show is targeted at a young audience that pictures would be more easily understood. It also makes dubbing the show into other languages easier.
It is possible that the written language of Equestria is Pictographic, sort of like Chinese. If you look inside the book Twilight was reading in the first episode you'll notice that the words are all Pictograms. The sign outside the library could actually just be a stylized version of the character for "Library". It possible that it's a hybrid system with, like Japanese with an alphabet instead of a syllabary, since we see the ponies writing out Celestia's name in letters. It is also possible that it's the translation convention at work and Celestia spans multiple characters.
An interesting theory, but in "Party of One", the phrase "Happy Birthday Pinkie Pie" sort of appears to be written in English, although only the first word is really legible.
Again, like the sign that reads Welcome Princess Celestia. It could be translation convention at work. IE they wrote the characters for "Happy Birthday Pinky Pie", its just translated to english for our benifit. Or they use an alphabet for banners and other more formal displays, while using pictograms for everyday use.
Alternatively, it could be the opposite: the pictographic system is used for formal purposes, while the alphabet is used in more informal situations. Yes, the banner is welcoming a princess, but if not being able to fit all of her name in is considered acceptable (at least by the ones writing it), the use of the informal would probably not be a particular concern, especially if it is becoming more prevalent across all uses.
This strays into Reality Is Unrealistic and Aluminum Christmas Trees territory, as real world libraries in some countries are marked with some kind of pictogram that is much larger than any written signage, mainly because it conveys the intended meaning much faster. Maybe Equestria just has a similar information graphics culture to our own.
Write "library" largely and clearly enough to be read from a distance. Do the same with a drawing of a book. A drawing also simply fits the sign's aspect ratio better. Lastly, to young enough ponies and to foreigners, pictures would be more useful.
There is only one time in the show when clearly legible words are written: in "Swarm of the Century" (the sign that says "Welcome Princess Celest"). All the books have pictures instead of covers on the title, and all the signs are either pictures or illegible words that look like a mix between several different alphabets. This is obviously done so the animators don't have to do any extra work when the show is dubbed into other languages. You can even tell that, in "Swarm of the Century", the writing on the sign looks animated poorly, because it was put into the shot after everything else so it could more easily be changed.
The reason for the lack of written English is to make the show more easily adaptable to international markets. Any written English would either have to be digitally edited for that country's language or subtitles would have to be added. So if there's nothing written all that has to be changed is the dubbing. It's also possible there's little written language so that really young kids can follow the show, too.
If ponies and buffalo and cows are all sapient, are any animals of a given size? If so, what do the ones who are large carnivores eat?
The ursas, manticore, and hydra didn't seem to be sapient, so probably not. It seems more like it's just the ungulates (or at least the more equine ungulates, I don't think those pigs were sapient, were they?) and the draconians (though once again, that hydra didn't seem sapient). Though all of the animals do seem to have a higher level of intelligence than in the real world.
The hydra may be sapient. The heads couldn't communicate with the cast, but they seem intelligent. One expressed schadenfreude (the German word for "shameful joy") and later blew a raspberry at them.
After thinking about this further, I realized that Gilda demands some changes to the above theory. As a gryphon she is sapient, but she is not an ungulate, draconian, or anything similar. Because the manticore was not sapient, it's not the lion part of gryphons that make them sapient, so it may be the eagle part. So it may be that large birds and related creatures are also sapient. If you consider Philomena to also be sapient then she supports this theory. Though it's hard to say if she's any more sapient than Angel, or any other animal in Equestria for that matter.
In the Season 2 episode "May The Best Pet Win," the falcon, eagle, bat, owl and turtle appear to have sapience equal to Philomena; a falcon actually shakes hands with a turtle and expresses deference, but does not speak.
If friendship is magic, and Twilight didn't have friends before episode one, than why was she able to use magic so well? Or at all for that matter?
Friendship is magic, but magic is not necessarily friendship. Celestia assigns Twilight to study the magic of friendship, whereas she had been studying, for example, the magic of unicorns. (This is covered in the prequel series, My Little Pony: Unicorns is Magic.)
This is true, considering that Trixie is also a skilled magician, but doesn't seem to have any friends, even if she is incredibly arrogant.
How about this for an explanation? Magic can function without friendship. It works on the connection that resides within all ponies towards everypony else. Friendship increases the power that a pony can draw on exponentially, though.
Apparently, any of The Four Loves can become magic in Equestria. So far, we've seen that Storge and Eros (Family and romance, respectively) can have pretty much the same effect as Phileo (friendship). Agape (unconditional, self-sacrificing) has also cropped up, but mostly as the silent partner to the other three.
Keep in mind that she did have at least 3 close friends: Spike, Shining Armor, and Cadence.
What were Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon named before their cutie marks appeared?
If that's true, it's kinda sad that they were pretty much destined to be stuck-up little bitches.
Yeah, but if they're happy with it, then it's not too bad.
If its like the Apple family them maybe their parents named them after their family theme, like Diamond Tiara's are jewelers, and that being kids only see the bare surface of what there cutie mark means (wearing a tiara and being rich) and are lashing out at other with better cutie marks.
This is a good theory, the only problem is that to get the cutie mark they have to discover what they're good at. Find their purpose in life so to speak.
Diamond Tiara's father, Filthy Rich, and great-grandfather, Stinkin' Rich are businessman. Filthy Rich owns "Rich's Barnyard Bargains".
Diamond Tiara could have easily become a jeweler. Silver Spoon could be a door-to-door flatware salespony. Cutie marks and names can be interpreted pretty creatively.
What about that rainbow-maned pony named Rainbow Dash whose talent is flying so fast she makes rainbows appear?
Is the Grand Galloping Gala invitation-only? The Imagine Spot images that Pinkie, Applejack and Rainbow Dash envisage when thinking about the gala make it look like an agricultural fair with extra attractions (like the Royal Easter Show in Sydney). There looked to be hundreds, if not thousands of ponies in attendance, so it looked like a major tourist event. Even if the tickets to such an event aren't free (which they often are - food and attraction sales are what lets them run a profit), they can't be too expensive or they won't get the numbers they want. Now, none of the main cast seems particularly wealthy, but they don't seem poor either, so if the GGG really would be the highlight of their year, saving up for it shouldn't be too difficult. Indeed, Applejack's business strategy should require her to bring her produce to the gala. For the six characters, "two free tickets" could simply translate to "we only have to buy four tickets between us", no conflict required.
It probably is invitation-only. Once they finally get there in the season finale, the whole point is that it's not as they imagined.
It's either invitation-only or the tickets are incredibly expensive, which would explain all the upper-class ponies in attendance.
Now that I've seen the finale, this is indeed true. My mistake. Still, it seems odd that none of the mane cast even consider that there might be other ways to get a ticket to the Gala. And also odd that Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash and Applejack were not just unrealistic in their expectations of the event, but actually deluded as to the entire nature of it. I've never been to the Royal Garden Party, but I know it doesn't involve balloons and apple pies.
You know, I think I've figured out why it is that the girls felt so out of place at the Grand Galloping Gala. It was a High-Brow, Upper-Class Affair, and all of them are Working Class girls. [...] Lacking any working knowledge of the Gala, they imagine it using the fanciest event they've experienced or known about: Applejack imagines something like a fancy State Fair, Rainbow Dash pictures an Air Show, and Pinkie Pie just pictures a party and carnival bigger then any she's ever seen. Fluttershy, not caring about the Gala itself, just imagines the Castle's gardens to be a fancier, more exotic wildlife preserve then what she's seen. Only Rarity has an accurate concept of the Gala itself, and it's clear from her romantic fantasy, it's one based entirely from Romance Novels and Fashion Magazines. Twilight herself just imagines she'll be able to spend time with Princess Celestia, like she did before going to Ponyville.
Twilight seemed to want to go to the Great Galloping Gala to see Celestia. Why couldn't she have gone to Canterlot in her spare time? It's within cantering distance.
Celestia is implied to be pretty freaking busy most of the time, and given that Twilight's official assignment is to stay in Ponyville Twilight might have assumed that Celestia would frown on her pupil popping in all the time when she was supposed to be off doing other stuff. She wasn't just excited about seeing Celestia, but about spending some quality time with her, hence why she was so crushed when Celestia was basically forced to ignore her for a while. And there's also a bit of a difference between just hanging out, and attending a special, exclusive, once-a-year social function with someone.
Besides, Twilight arrived in Ponyville on a flying chariot. It's obviously not a trivial distance for anyone less than a Physical Goddess.
Not really fridge logic, but I have no idea where to put it. Am I the only one who, upon learning Celestia had power over the Sun, wondered if it could be weaponized?
It has, go read The Sun is Tired, Chapter 5, to be exact.
It would makes sense that Celestia would be able to use the Sun as a weapon if she needed to. It would essentially be Equestria's version of a nuclear deterrent and probably carry the same weight in the decision of whether or not to use it. Namely if Celestia uses it when it doesn't seem absolutely necessary, it would probably cause rumors to spread amongst the populous, wondering if the princess has lost her mind.
Because the orbital friendship cannon is more effective?
I've read one fic that has something similar. Canterlot is evacuated, and Luna basically casts Meteor Swarm on the city. At that point, you're in Godzilla Threshold territory.
If Applejack works an apple farm... why the herding skills?
She's a herd animal. Knowledge of herd animal mentality, and how to work with it, probably comes naturally to her. This would explain why she can steer a stampede of cows, but not gather a bunch of rabbits.
It's also shown that she keeps animals like pigs and cows at her farm as well as apples.
Another reason: she farms things other than apples to pad out Sweet Apple Acres' overall income. Apples are the chief export, but there's also profit to be made from milk, eggs, grains, etc.
It has not been made clear whether six ponies are required to use the Elements of Harmony (since Twilight Sparkle is a new Element wielder and may not have full knowledge of the Elements' use). If, as the mythology states, Celestia and Luna used the Elements of Harmony together to defeat Discord, did they split the elements three each? Was Celestia was able to use all the Elements by herself to banish Nightmare Moon? If Celestia was able to use the Elements alone, was it due to her being an alicorn? If so, Luna could also have used the Elements. Or did both of them independently possess fully-unified Harmony powers?
Backstory implies that, while Celestia and Luna where able to use the full power of the elements against Discord by working together, Celestia was unable to use the full power against Nightmare Moon. Perhaps each princess does embody all six elements, but accessing the elements' full potential requires at least two ponies working together.
Which, of course leads to this problem: Since all of Celestia's banishments and imprisonments have been weakened (Nightmare Moon and Discord as two examples) shouldn't Celestia send the Mane Six on a tour to check all the locks? After a thousand years, there probably are a few entities Celestia has frozen in carbonite for good reason.
Or there may not be, after all. By the time the Mane Six even discover the Elements of Harmony, they've evidently gone unused and left to fade into legend for quite some time, and whether Celestia is even capable of inflicting fates such as banishment to the moon or being turned into a statue on anyone without drawing upon the power of the Elements again remains dubious at best. So thus far what little evidence there is would point more towards no such gallery of imprisoned horrors actually existing in Equestria in the first place; for all we know, Discord and Nightmare Moon really were it. (Possibly Jossed as of "It's About Time" with the revelation and implications of the fact that Cerberus exists and usually guards the Gates of Tartarus. How much imprisonment there actually has in common with being hit with the Elements of Harmony remains a matter of speculation at this time, though.)
What's with the appearance of bridles? The Diamond Dogs having them could be justified but why would Rarity have dress forms with bridles on them?
That gives a new meaning to when Applejack hitches up Rainbow Dash.
Same thing that Twilight puts on a saddle in the beginning of Winter Wrap-Up (which she promptly ditches after opening credits). Along with human-like clothes, the ponies consider horse-clothing as viable clothes.
Isn't Mr. Cake explanation of Pound Cake's wings and Pumpkin Cake's horn a little fishy?
Not so much fishy as lucky. The scenario is a fairly simple example of recessive genes in action. It just means that the Cakes are heterozygous for multiple "species-determining genes." However, an earth pony giving birth to fraternal twins, one a pegasus and one a unicorn, would have been unlikely no matter who the father was.
Molestia was lonely.
The Cutie Mark Crusaders try increasingly ridiculous things in attempts to get their cutie marks. However, this may not be just a simple excuse for a continuous plot element. If you think about it, they all exhibited their special talent in "The Show Stoppers". It's likely that they're just trying to ignore their own talents so that they have an excuse to keep hanging out with each other. After all, their lack of cutie marks is what brought them together, and it's likely that it's one of the key things keeping them together. If they were to all get their cutie marks, they would practically have nothing keeping them together.
They would get their cutie marks together, or at least try to get them together. Even in childhood that's would be reason enough to keep in touch for some people. And that's not counting that they are already a defined group of friends.
What is Fluttershy's actual job? All the other ponies seem to have "regular" work to at least some extent, if you count Rainbow being mentioned to help out with weathermaking now and then and Twilight's job officially being "student". Fluttershy is not Ponyville's vet - that slot is taken - and she doesn't seem to keep enough chickens to sell the eggs. Is she Ponyville's Crazy Cat Lady?
Given how eager she seems to be to give animals away, it's likely she runs what's essentially an animal shelter.
I sort of thought of her as running something like a pet store, but a shelter is more likely, especially when you think of how she constantly tries to heal them as well, but uses more basic forms of medicine than a vet would. Much like a volunteer at a shelter would. She's also Ponyville's pet-trainer, local animal expert in caring, and dragon tamer
She probably sells animal products (the ones that don't involve killing them). She's the type who could get bees to make honey for her to sell just by asking nicely.
Considering the broad variety of animals displayed in "May the best pet win", she might even have a zoo in her house.
Jobs and money in general is really inconsistent in the FIM world. Some ponies have jobs and are clearly paid for them (Rarity, Applejack, the Cakes), some ponies have a job but don't seem to be paid for what they do (Rainbow Dash, Twilight), and some don't have any apparent job or source of income (Pinkie Pie, Fluttershy). It's possible Twilight's payment is being able to live in the library, but that doesn't explain where she gets the money for food and supplies.
Where I come from, many libraries are run in-part by the city, so it's possibly a low-key government job. I'm guessing the weather manager is also a government job. Pinkie specifically works for the Cakes but probably has most of her income eaten up by rent and constant parties. Fluttershy... I'm guessing living so close to the Everfree forest really lowers the property values. She might be an animal breeder given the number of pets she has access to though.
Pinkie is repeatedly implied to work for the Cakes, and Rainbow Dash is probably either on the city's payroll or gets paid by Cloudsdale for running the weather. Twilight probably gets some sort of a stipend for Celestia or gets paid for running the library.
She takes care of them. Remember, in Ponyville, nature elements can't take care of themselves.
Not only that, she likely sits or tends to the other pets. We've seen her take care of Opal for Rarity, and in a quick shot from "Spike At Your Service", she's walking Winona.
Why do ponies' names match their cutie mark at all if the cutie mark only appears a long time after their parents named them? Does this make the cutie mark a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy?
It's possible they have their names legally changed. But more likely is that a mark-related name is a nickname (which may or may not be legally binding). Carrot Top's birth name is Golden Harvest, but everyone calls her Carrot Top because of her mark. Diamond Tiara probably have a name ending with "Rich" from her family. Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash are named after traits they already had pre-mark. It's just easy for ponies to refer to each other by their marks, and it's evolved into a custom.
It could also be that the cutie marks themselves somehow consider the pony's name, so despite Sweetie Belle very likely having the same talent as quite a few other ponies, her cutie mark would likely involve a bell while another's might be a nightingale (though, if you get the reference, that is more tangentially related to her name).
Also, not all ponies' names actually match their cutie marks all that well. Pinkie Pie is Pinkie Pie, not "Balloonia", Derpy's name isn't "Bubbles"...
Not to mention the ones that only vaguely relate to their Cutie Marks. Nor do Cutie Marks necessarily relate to their profession. While jewels are rare in our world, there not so rare that Rarity would obviously be related to jewels, and her profession uses jewels in the same way that we use glitter. Similarly, while Twilight Sparkle has a sparkle for a Cutie Mark, but there's no relation to how powerful she is, magically, or to any of her main character traits.
Celestia and Luna's jobs are presented as being pretty much equal, only Luna raises not only the moon but presumably all the stars as well, while Celstia raises only one star. Shouldn't Luna's job be MASSIVELY more difficult than Celestia's?
That one star is a lot closer and quite a bit bigger than the moon, so it might well be as difficult to raise the sun. Alternatively, maybe Luna did have a harder job and felt she was getting the short end of the stick and wasn't appreciated, which contributed to the Nightmare Moon Face-Heel Turn. Yet another theory would be that Celestia has the easier physical task, but compensates by representing both sisters in public and being more actively involved in affairs.
It's also probable that the sun is much bigger than the stars (this isn't our human universe, after all).
In the first Episode, the intro only says that Luna brings out the moon at night. Maybe the stars are not under her control at all. That would make their jobs basically equal as Celestia manages a large, unchanging object while Luna mooves a smaller, changing object (the lunar phases).
Why doesn't Spike carry around scrolls and a quill at all times? In a world without cell phones, his magic power would make him extremely useful. Irreplaceable, even. In "A Dog and Pony Show," Spike could have sent for help, then gone after Rarity himself.
Because that's not how it works. He breathes on a scroll, it goes to Celestia; she does some magic to a scroll, it comes out of Spike's mouth. He can't just send a scroll anywhere.
Given how he hangs out with Twilight Sparkle, he might be getting in the habit of doing that anyway.
Maybe I'm just forgetting something, but when did the show ever explicitly say that Celestia or Luna were goddesses or immortal?
Well, for one Princess Celestia has been around for 1000 years (minimum) as established by the first episode. On top of that she controls the the rising and setting of the sun; something that would seem to imply a god-like level of power.
She's also been shown in two different points in the show's past; one set when the Mane Six were fillies, and one set at least a century ago (maybe more). She looked exactly like she does now both times. That's usually a pretty big indicator that a character is immortal.
Short answer: it doesn't. It's canon that they've been around for a long time, Luna at least throws some pretty impressive casual magic around in "Luna Eclipsed", and of course they're both royalty — but actual claims of full-fledged immortality, let alone divinity, haven't really been forthcoming and so far remain in the realm of fan speculation and fiction. (Really, they're winged unicorn princesses ruling a magical land of talking ponies. How much more special do you need to get before the fans are satisfied?)
It's very strange that Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon have only ever been showed bullying the Cutie Mark Crusaders. Apple Bloom and Sweetie Belle's older sisters helped save Equestria three times, and were publically honoured for doing so at least once (Equestria in general may not know the full truth of the Nightmare Moon incident, but the citizens of Ponyville certainly should), and this is on top of their individual achievements. The Mane Six are (or should be) celebrities. Diamond Tiara is a spoiled brat, but she was never shown even trying to suck up to the CMC for access to the Six.
It's even more stupid with the revelation that Diamond Tiara's parents get a fair amount of their money from reselling the Apple Family's Zap Apple Jam. Which Applebloom helps make. Which is probably one reason why Filthy Rich forces Diamond Tiara to behave when they visit Sweet Apple Acres.
That's probably why Diamond Tiara bullies the CMC. They actually have it better off than she does. Sweetie Belle and Applebloom are related to two of Equestria's national heroes, and they're close friends with Scootaloo. Their relationship with the Mane Six puts the CMC on casual terms with Equestrian royalty. Rarity is a prolific fashion designer with clients among Equestria's elite. The Apple family helped found Ponyville, which in turn has played a role in helping Equestria prosper. Filthy Rich...is rich and owns a market chain, and that's about it. So really, Tiara's behavior could be more out of jealousy toward the CMC.
The interactions between Diamond Tiara, Silver Spoon, Applebloom, and Twist in Call Of The Cute seem to indicate the former have been picking on the latter for some time. This seems more like it stems from some longstanding animosity between Applebloom and Diamond Tiara than mere jealousy.
It must also be pointed out that NO-ONE seems to remember the Mane Six's achievements. "Sweet and Elite" being a big example, where the Aesop revolves around Rarity's friends being a bunch of rustic noponies shunned by Canterlot's High Society, despite consisting of Celestia's personal protogé, Equestria's fastest flyer (who twice achieved speeds of mythical level), a former fashion model, and a prominent landowner whose family founded an entire town. And Pinkie Pie.
What is the obsession with making all of the main 6 characters perfect representations of their Elements of Harmony? It just comes off as an unusually high standard to expect anyone, especially young women in their teenaged years or early 20s, to have the emotional maturity necessary to never lie, or always be loyal, or always be kind, etc. I doubt even Celestia would be capable of that. What's wrong if they have moments of weakness? So what if Applejack doesn't always tell the truth? Even honest people lie sometimes. So what if Pinkie Pie isn't always happy? Even cheery people get sad.
Yeah, this is something viewers need to remember. Especially since Princess Luna is a former wielder of the Elements of Harmony, and in a depressive rage tried to bring about the apocalypse. Being an Element Bearer doesn't mean you're going to adhere to it 100% of the time, doesn't mean that every action you take is in furtherance of the idea your chosen Element, nor does it mean you will deserve to hold this position in perpetuity.
How do pegasi get clothes on? Their anatomy isn't what you would call conducive to getting garments over their wings, and every time they've been dressed their wings are on the outside of their garments.
I suspect they put their clothes on while their wings are in the folded position. They might have to stretch a bit, but its no harder than getting into a sleeveless shirt.
Why does Rainbow Dash take so many naps?
Well she is one of the lead weatherponies in Ponyville, which is probably several degrees more important than elsewhere in Equestria, Because of the everfree forest. Think about it, Rainbow has to deal with whatever utterly random weather patterns blow out of the forest and make sure it doesn't screw up the rest of Equestria's weather pattern. She's probably on call 24-7 to deal with it (and you thought Applejack was the hard working pony!). Add in her stunt practicing, mentoring Scootaloo, and hanging with her friends. Its no wonder she catches catnaps whenever she can!
Mare in the Moon & The Elements of Harmony
So... Why didn't Applejack just, I dunno, tell Twilight that if she let go, Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash would catch her?
For that matter, why didn't she just hang onto her until Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash could come get her, rather than let her fall so far before they could catch her? She's probably strong enough.
Given the choice between putting all your trust in the strong, sensible pony holding your hooves and looking at you, and putting it in a hyperactive pony who crashes into things and another who's terrified by the sight of you... Applejack was probably better off not mentioning it. And the pegasi might have had wing clearance issues getting that close to the cliff edge.
Yeah, I agree with this. Plus, every pony except Applejack had to demonstrate their element against adversity. Rainbow Dash and Rarity made sacrifices, Fluttershy risked a mauling, Pinkie Pie had to overcome fear, and Twilight had to recognize her newfound faith in her friends. But Applejack had no reason not to tell the truth. Unless... the test was that just crosses it into Idiot Ball territory.
What is Fluttershy's actual job? All the other ponies seem to have she didn't tell Twilight that Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy were waiting to catch her? She had to understand how to withhold information without compromising the truth, and did that by reassuring Twilight rather than ordering her to let go, and appealing to her trust instead of pointing out the pegasus ponies below. Huh, this looks a little like Fridge Brilliance...
...until you realise that Applejack (and the rest of the cast) had no idea that they were supposed to prove or learn anything, or that they embodied the elements. All they knew is that they were on a quest to find an ancient Mcguffin and defeat the Princess's evil sister.
Applejack didn't know (and didn't have to know) it had to be a test to know how to stay truthful while not frightening Twilight.
It's possible that Applejack was afraid of Twilight pulling HER down too, but along with the then-questionably-skilled pegasi point, maybe she didn't want to tell her.
Applejack comes from a huge family - she knows the difficulty and importance of real friendship firsthand, and she decided to hammer that bodily into Twilight. Because Honesty... is brutal.
That makes sense. The whole scene kind of reminds me of one in Finding Nemo, where a character's order for another to "let go (and fall)" was also a metaphor for letting go of your children. Twilight never had friends and was clearly afraid, fearing she might be let down or whatever. Maybe Applejack was savvier than anybody realised and knew that Twilight needed to take a really big step and trust them if they were going to get out of this. The first step to friendship is trust. And that was the first step Twilight faced in the forest.
It makes more sense that it was just a 'trust' exercise. We have a similar thing in real life, used to drive the point home: one person stands behind the other, and the second person is supposed to fall backwards without looking, counting on the first person to catch them or hold them up. Applejack, from her high view on what else was happening, probably saw the other two friends were open to catch her, and decided to use this as an opportunity to build up Twilight's trust in the others. It could have been keen foresight on her part, too; as far as they were concerned, this was just minutes before they'd all have to save the world from eternal night, which one troper pointed out would equal the fridge horror of death-for-everyone, since plants need sunlight and ponies primarily eat plants. Applejack was making use of this brief period of time before that uncertain point that would decided whether or not there'd be a tomorrow at all. She was basically saying 'We're going to have to trust in you in a few minutes to prevent the end of our lives as we know it, you might as well get familiar with this whole 'trust' thing.' It's a two way street, and if you were going into what could very well be the final struggle of your life, you'd better be able to say your comrades were dependable.
It still doesn't explain why she didn't just say that Twilight would be caught by the other two, which is where the "trust game" analogy breaks down. In an emergency situation, you absolutely must tell people why you are doing something and why you are telling them to do something, or you risk panicking them. The issue of trust still could have worked if Applejack had assured her that the two would have caught her and not e.g. dropped her. Moreover, Applejack wasn't supposed to prove her trustworthiness. She was supposed to prove her honesty. Discord was capable of being as technically honest as Applejack, but no one would trust him an inch.
Fridge Brilliance: Applejack did prove her honesty because she witnessed Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy save Pinkie Pie and Rarity. Furthermore, even if Applejack did point out that Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy would save Twilight before letting her go, it's quite likely that Twilight still could have panicked or shown a little doubt.
Tails have muscle and nerve endings in them. Rarity's is no exception, she can wave it and use it to pick things up. How then was she able to slice it off like it was just a piece of hair? (Perhaps this is just a headscratcher for some, but I got a little nauseous the first time I watched Episode 2; before it became clear she was fine)
Watch a real horse's tail move sometime; the part which is actually biologically the tail is actually kind of stumpy; the rest is just hair (and Rarity's shenanigans are just cartoon physics).
Either that, or Steven Magnet's fainting suddenly makes a lot more sense.
In the series opening mythology sequence, Twilight Sparkle reads that Nightmare Moon/Princess Luna has been trapped in the moon, and that "the stars will aid her escape." Specifically, four stars, as illustrated in the book she's reading and shown explicitly when the Mare in the Moon suddenly disappears from the lunar surface. We learn in Season Two that Princess Celestia and Princess Luna have used the Elements of Harmony before to defeat Discord. There are six Elements of Harmony, and no reason to expect that number to vary. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna are two (very powerful) ponies. The four stars who aid Night Mare Moon's escape... were they the four other Element-wielders? This concept also gains greater significance when you realize that the entire chain of events - Twilight Sparkle's re-discovery of the Elements and Celestia's pointed indifference to the return of her sister/Night Mare Moon, and her mysterious absence during the solstice - were not about defeating an imprisoned enemy ... the whole thing was a rescue mission to recover Luna from Night Mare Moon. Princess Celestia could not rescue her sister from Night Mare Moon herself, and had to wait a thousand years (possibly with the assistance of the remaining four original element wielders who had become stars in the night sky, acting as guardians over the imprisoned sister) for the next Element wielders to appear.
If Princess Celestia was the previous wielder of the Element of Magic, then Princess Luna was one of the other elements. If Twilight Sparkle is the new wielder of the Element of Magic, then who among the Mane Six will betray the rest and become the new Mare in the Moon? Or Discord's Disciple? Like Luna, Fluttershy went crazy after being rejected by the animals at the Grand Galloping Gala gardens: Night Mare Shy? Pinkie Pie has unusual powers of travel for an Earth pony, and the fourth-wall cannot seem to hold her: Discordie Pie? Perhaps unintended foreshadowing, but it took five of the Mane cast to take down Discorded Rainbow Dash (who fortunately but inexplicably did not use the all-powerful Sonic Rainboom against them). Could Rainbow Dash be the Sixth Ranger in the group, and next to be banished to the moon?
I honestly think that's more of a coincidence than anything. I think the reason for the four stars was Four Is Death. The rest of that stuff is a nice theory, but barely fits into possible canon. Definitely a good idea for a fanfic though. And as a side-note, Discorded Rainbow Dash didn't use the Sonic Rainboom because she was hanging onto a cloud for half the time, hindering her speed, and weighed down by Pinkie and Rarity the other half.
If Twilight Sparkle had mistranslated the thousand-year old prophecy, "the stars will aid her escape" could apply to Night Mare Moon escaping from the moon (as presented verbatim in the first episode), or (if interpreted differently) it could apply to Princess Luna escaping from Night Mare Moon/the Miasma, which characterizes the stars as a benevolent force, subverting Four Is Death.
The general idea of the rescue mission is supported by effective Word Of Godfrom Lauren Faust. Link to her actual dA comment page here, screenshot here◊. She does mention that her reasoning should not be taken as canon, as she no longer runs the show.
What makes you think it was Celestia that was the wielder of the Element of Magic? This makes even less sense when you look at how effortlessly Luna performs powerful magic in Luna Eclipsed, in spite of Word of Faust saying that she's not yet fully grown.
The Ticket Master
In "The Ticket Master", during Rarity's daydream, the prince gives her an engagement ring. This was cool looking, with it on his horn, until I realized that ponies don't have fingers to wear rings. Even if this is just a unicorn thing, we don't see any unicorns with wedding bands on their horns.
Maybe it's different in Equestria than on Earth. Wedding rings for unicorns might not be worn as often as for humans. Maybe they only wear them on special occasions or even just for the wedding.
Also in that episode, the first thing I thought was "why not just ask the Princess for more tickets?" Because Twilight can't think straight from hunger, is why.
She might have felt that asking for more tickets would be rude.
Agreed; when someone gives you free tickets to an exclusive event that presumably has a limited number of spots available, it's not exactly polite to use your connections in an attempt to get more tickets.
No doubt this was Twilight's reason, but it's worth noting that Celestia asks that very question in her reply.
Because it is obvious to Celestia, who knows she wouldn't be offended by the request. Twilight, however, may well think Princess Celestia would be offended at being asked for more tickets.
Applebuck Sason Griffon the Brush Off Boast Busters
If Trixie travelled in the wagon, then who pulled it in the first place? She's no Earth Pony.
She probably moved it magically, like how Twilight moved the snowplow in "Winter Wrap-Up".
No reason why she couldn't pull it herself. We saw Twilight and Rarity- both Unicorns -hauling heavy carts overflowing with gems in 'Dog and Pony Show'. Unicorns may be overall weaker than Earth ponies, but they can still do feats of strength or defy the stereotype.
Dragonshy Look Before You Sleep
In "Look Before You Sleep", Twilight acts like Pinkie Pie, which is quite the opposite to her character. And she doesn't even do anything when the tree comes crashing in, beside looking for help in a guidebook. Was she so afraid to stay alone at stormy night? Or maybe she saw Applejack and Rarity bickering and decided to bring them closer together?
I thought that too (that Twilight was acting more like Pinkie). One theory is that the writers did actually have Pinkie in mind when they wrote the first draft of the episode's script, but for any number of reasons, they gave the role to Twilight instead.
It's canon that she hasn't really had friends before, and it was her first sleepover. For all she knew, a tree crashing into the house was a part of the sleepover experience.
Twilight is concussed in that scene. (This also explains most of Feeling Pinkie Keen.)
A minor Fridge Logic bit. In 'Look Before You Sleep', Applejack's dared to 'play dress-up in a frou-frou glittery lacy outfit'. She then goes and gets a rather weird-looking Pimped-Out Dress..except they're in Twilight's home. Which means that the dress is Twilight's.
Knowing Rarity, she probably whipped it up MacGyver-style out of dental floss, paper doilies and old curtains.
I imagine there's a good chance Twilight recieved that dress from Rarity as a present.
Oddly, Rarity has it in Green Isn't Your Color, when she's picking an outfit for Fluttershy, and apparently brought it along for the photo shoot in the park, which means it's one of her originals.
I'd say it's not that outlandish for Twilight to have a Pimped-Out Dress like that. She did live in Canterlot after all, as the Princess' prized pupil no less. It's not impossible at all that she might have attended some social events wearing it.
Bridle Gossip Swarm of the Century
Both Applejack and Rainbow Dash's attempts to fix the problem look like they would have worked if it wasn't for Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie, yet we're supposed to think that Pinkie Pie had the only answer and the other ponies were at fault for not helping her. Granted finding instruments was the most reliable and would have been the fastest solution if everyone pitched in but still, they could have shown both Applejack and Rainbow Dash as only being able to gather most of the parasprites.
The message I took from this episode was that everyone should have been working together on one plan of action rather than each trying a separate method. Had the others helped Pinkie Pie, or at least gotten her to help with Rainbow Dash' or Applejack's method, the problem would have been solved. It was only because the different methods ended up interfering with each other that the problem persisted. Pinkie Pie's solution wasn't the best one, it was simply the one that ended up working.
Everyone seemed to be Completely Missing the Point in "Winter Wrap Up". As Twilight is repeatedly warned, she must not use her powerful magic to solve Ponyville's problems, because the wrapping up process is an ancient tradition from when the town contained only one species. Everything should be done "the Earth Pony way." So far so good... if you could all just turn around and ignore all the helpful pegasi flying by.
I got the impression the 'no magic' rule meant just that. The physical, if you like, talents of the earth ponies, unicorns and pegasi could be used to get the jobs done, just not the supernatural ones. If Ponyville was founded by Earth Ponies specifically and they were later joined by the other races, then it makes sense that the tradition was extended to suit each as far as possible. You see earth ponies and unicorns mixing together in teams, but some things, such as clearing the sky, can only be done by pegasi. Unfortunately Twilight's unique talents leaves her at a loose end until she gets a chance to show off the other skill she has; she knows how to organize.
So how did Ponyville handle the sky before the pegasi moved in?
Relatively minor one about "Winter Wrap-Up". The teaser shows Twilight explicitly getting dressed into various winter gear, albeit significantly earlier in the morning than she should be. So... why is she not wearing that gear immediately after the title sequence, or at any later point in the episode?
Another point - she got up incredibly early for the event. So why is it that when she arrives, it's not only full-blown daytime, but everypony else is already there before her?
She realized she woke up way too early, went back to bed and overslept.
It turned to be a warmer day than she thought.
Call of the Cutie Fall Weather Friends
In the Iron Pony contest, Applejack claims that Rainbow Dash using her wings is cheating. Yet, over half of the contests involve leg strength, where a pony who flies places instead of walking is obviously at a disadvantage. This is never addressed.
Rainbow Dash can walk/run, but Applejack and the other Earth ponies can't fly and (obviously) don't have wings to use to get ahead.
The physics aren't always consistant, but I would expect Rainbow Dash to be a lot lighter than Applejack. As such she could likely run faster with less muscle strength behind her.
She could also alter the pitch of her wings to increase or decrease her glide potential without technically "flying," which would give her an advantage over certain terrain.
If her muscles aren't as strong, then she doesn't deserve the title of "most athletic pony". Using her wings to hover over the mudpit in a tug-of-war is clearly cheating. She was pulled far enough to lose, she just didn't happen to touch the ground beyond that point.
You shouldn't really be able to compare them. For a pegasus to be as good at everything you can do without wings and an be excellent flier, she'll need to train much more than someone who does the same things minus flying. Without flying, she'll be at a disadvantage. But with flying, she'll have a huge advantage.
Think of it this way: had either pony been facing off against Twilight, she could have easily used magic to dominate every challenge, and that is certainly cheating. Rainbow using her wings is no different. The contestants should be limited to skills that apply to all ponies. Had any challenge involved growing plants or whatever earth pony magic does, Applejack would have been expected to play fair. If influence over animals is a quality of earth pony magic, she may have already passed up a chance to cheat!
Its been shown that earth ponies are slightly stronger than other ponies to make up for not having magic or the ability to fly.
This is common fanon, but it's never mentioned by Word of Faust or really shown in the show. However, Word of Faust has stated that Earth Ponies are magical. They have a magical connection to plants and animals that non-Earth Ponies can't match aside from rare examples like Fluttershy. And it's been shown in the show, too. How many unicorns and pegasi do you see with plant or animal related cutie marks that aren't obviously about something else (such as the unicorn teacher in Cutie Mark Chronicles having an apple, which is clearly indicative of a talent with teaching rather than raising apples).
In that case, if anyone is to blame, then it would be Twilight, in my humble opinion. She was recruited as a judge for the contest, yet she never calls out Rainbow Dash on her behavior. In those circumstances, you can't blame Rainbow Dash for doing something she considers natural for her and that the impartial judge of the contest seems to be authorizing. But this raises the question, how could someone as obsessed over rules and order as Twilight is have turned a blind eye to Dash's antics?
To be fair to Applejack, the instances were we saw her being bugged by Rainbow's wings were cheating: One was a jumping contest and the other was the tug of war, and applejack would have won both(fairly) if rainbow hadn't flying. It's more the equivalent of running in a race walking competition.
Suited For Success
Fluttershy suddenly pouring out a massive stream of criticsm with elaborate tradesreferences and french terms is awesome and all... except if you examine what she's actually saying, she's speaking nonsense. Many of the suggestions are bad (a blanket stitch on a gala dress would not look good), some critique suggest designs clearly not present in the dress they're working on, and she even finishes by calling the dress "off the rack", which is a blatant lie and just plain rude to Rarity since she's making it to Fluttershy's measurements as they speak.
And that matches up perfectly to what happens later in the episode, Fluttershy's dress is shown to be just as bad as the rest of them after she designed it.
Feeling Pinkie Keen Sonic Rainboom Stare Master The Show Stoppers A Dog and Pony Show Green Isn't Your Color Over a Barrel
When the buffalo attack the train, how did they know the tree was in the caboose, and not in an ordinary freight car? If they didn't know, then why did they detach only the caboose? For that matter, if they knew it was in the caboose, why did Little Strongheart run almost the entire length of the train to get back to it, instead of just jumping on at the rear?
Braeburn doesn't seem particularly surprised to hear Bloomberg's been tree-napped, so they may have done this before. In fact, this may be why he asked Applejack to accompany the tree this time. However, that doesn't explain why she was so shocked at it being stolen... unless he's familiar enough with her eccentricities to know how she'd react to her baby being stolen, and didn't want to stress her out too much...
She didn't tell them she was bringing the tree, it was a surprise gift. That's why Braeburn didn't show concern until after they told him, even though he already knew the buffalo were a problem.
And as for the train thing, which overlaps with Fridge Brilliance, The Buffalo Tribe enemies were the citizens of Applelossa and their relatives most of the time. If Little Strong Heart remained on the ground, there was a better chance of an earth pony catching her, getting on the train car prevents them from finding her and gives her time to find the tree, through scent most likely, she just has to travel fast because she's on top of a train, as shown by the fact she has to skid to a halt to stop. This is backed up by the fact she was so startled to see Rainbow Dash, she's not used to having someone able to make it to the top of the cars with her.
How did the Buffalo know a tree was being delivered to Appleloosa?
Where else was it supposed to go?
A Bird in the Hoof
It seems a bit odd that the teacups have handles on them, seeing as how the ponies have not digits with which to manipulate the cups, and the unicorns can simply levitate them.
Maybe the teacup design was thought up by an elitist unicorn and there was a time one it was considered proper to only levitate the teacup via the handle. Or the handle could have been added to aid servants serving the tea. Since ponies lack hands, any non-unicorn servants of aristocrats would have either use their mouths or sit down and use both front hooves to place the cup in front of the aristocrat. Sitting down and using their front hooves would be difficult to deal with the serving tray and would take longer to serve everyone if their master has guests. So the handles were add so servants could grab that with their mouths and set the cup in front of their master or their master's guest(s), who would then pick it up with telekinesis (if unicorn) or their front hooves (if not).
We've seen pegasi use their wings as hands, so maybe the teacups were invented by a pegasus, even if it sounds unstereotypical. It also could have been invented by another satient species that actually has hands, such as dragons.
Twilight seemed just as surprised as everypony else about the true nature of Philemena. But wasn't Twilight Celestia's long-time student in Canterlot for years? How is it that she's unaware of nature of her long-time mentor's treasured pet? Also, as fond as she is of books and studying, Twilight never came across any narratives and illustrations of phoenixes?
Given that their relationship was highly scholarly, it's likely Princess Celestia didn't mention her pet to Twilight. Most teachers and professors don't. As for illustrations, it may be that she simply didn't come across them in her studies, or, given that Phoenixes are rare creatures, the only pictures she saw were of when they are in good condition, and not about to burst into flames.
Plus she could have had one of her insane moments where she doesn't think properly. Remember the last time there was trouble that Twilight didn't want Celestia to know about?
Twilight: Alright everyone, we need to build an exact replica of Ponyville over there. We've got less than a minute!
Remember how Harry Potter reacted to Dumbledore's phoenix going up in flames? Who knows what weird pets your teacher has that you're not aware of.
The Cutie Mark Chronicles
In "Call of the Cutie", Applejack tells Apple Bloom that she was the last in her class to get her cutie mark. Yet in "The Cutie Mark Chronicles", she launches into her Flashback with the claim that she got her mark when she was even younger than the Crusaders. Was her class filled with early bloomers, or what?
Nah, just means the Crusaders are late bloomers.
She went off to Manehattan for an unspecified period of time. She might have left when she was younger than the Crusaders, but only gotten her mark after a few years - she does seem to grow older between the beginning and end of the flashback.
Also, Rainbow Dash says in "Call of the Cutie" that she was the first in her class to get her cutie mark, but one of the boys she races in "The Cutie Mark Chronicles" has his already.
Maybe he wasn't in her class? There may be more than one.
Same school, different class?
According to Fluttershy, they were at summer flight camp, so there's no reason to assume they were even from the same school.
In Giggle At The Ghosties, Pinkie Pie mentions Granny Pie telling her to laugh at her fears, but later Pinkie Pie explains to us that her early life was spent on a rock farm, where there was no smiling, or talking. How could this be explained?
An even better example would be in "Winter Wrap-Up", where she mentions she has been ice skating "since she was a little filly". Sure, you might say that the above one is just a minor detail, or even that she is a natural as she said, but c'mon. Ice skating is hard - even for Pinkie Pie, it's hard to believe she's just that good with little to no practice.
First: No talking? How could they even properly live without talking? Anyway, back to the subject, maybe during the part at the flashback, Pinkie Pie's granny had recently passed away and might be the reason Pinkie was so sad-looking at the time.
Pinkie is a little on the nutty side. Considering she ended her rock farm tale with "and that's how Equestria was made", it's probably not wholly accurate. Either that, or Granny Pie didn't tell her that tidbit that until later.
No talking doesn't have to mean no talk at all, just no talk beyond bare necessities, which to such a social creature as Pinkie might as well not be talking at all.
My theory is that you've got it backwards - the rock farmers are the black sheep of the Pie family, whilst Granny and Pinkie are the "normal" ones. The genes for a pink mane have to come from somewhere. And don't you find it strange that the Pies are the only ponies in Equestria with names that contradict their talent? Perhaps they forbade the extended family from ever visiting the farm after Granny taught Pinkamena to "Giggle at the Ghosties."
How about this: Pinkie doesn't mean "no talking, no smiling" as in, they were explicitly forbidden from doing those things; she means it as in, they're on a joyless depressing rock farm out in the middle of nowhere so no one even wants to. Granny Pie remembered a time when it wasn't all rock farms, so she could tell Pinkie to "giggle at the ghosties", but until Pinkie learned about the concepts of "color" and "happiness", she couldn't really comprehend what Granny was saying.
Granny Pie simply doesn't work on the rock farm. Being boring is part of living on (that particular) rock farm, not necessarily of being a pre-Pinkamena Pie-family-member.
This Troper always thought that Pinkie's family got frustrated with her after all she wanted to do was party, she was hindering the family business, so Granny Pie took her in and raised her from there, probably with weekend visits to the farm or something.
Here's one. Rainbow's Sonic Rainboom unlocks five other ponies' cutie marks. She has performed two or three others since then (it's disputed if the Sonic Rainnuke involves one). Have these done anything?
The Sonic Rainboom is not magical. The magical part of the story is that the Mane 6 were all connected by destiny, which made their cutie marks appear simultaneously. The SR just triggered it, and once it was triggered, that's the end of it. It shouldn't be expected that the SR would affect anyone else.
In the cold open, the CMC fall through a tree that is clearly NOT a pine tree. The leaves look totally different. Why do they end up with pine needles stuck on them?
Owl's Well That Ends Well
Quills and Sofas is a Severely Specialized Store that sells exactly two items: quills and sofas. At first glance, it seems to be a throwaway gag that revolves around the store selling two things that have absolutely nothing to do with each other. . .until you remember that feathers and down are occasionally used to stuff furniture. It's not unreasonable to assume he makes a little extra money selling the quill quality feathers that he separates from his furniture stuffing.
Party of One
Pinkie Pie wears Groucho Novelty glasses. You know, the one with the eyebrows, mustache, and... human nose?? Do humans exist in the Ponyverse, and if not, why didn't the animators replace the human nose with a pony nose?
In the same vein, Pinkie Pie's "You're #1" foam finger in Sonic Rainboom.
There are at least three sapient species with fingers in Equestria (dragons, griffons, and minotaurs).
Depending on her knowledge of what's beyond the fourth wall she often breaks, she may have been giving us a little nod. Or she was just being Pinkie.
One possibility is that humans and human culture are a thing of myth and legend in Equestria, just like magical talking ponies, gryphons, and dragons are in our world. As such, the groucho glasses and the foam finger could be memorabilia from a popular play (or whatever the ponies watch for entertainment). That would explain not only why Pinkie Pie has said items, but also why the others didn't really react to them (even if they lumped it with Pinkie, being Pinkie, there should be some sort of reaction).
Or they're the skulls of an ape or other primate.
The Best Night Ever
It's obvious that Twilight has never been to the Grand Galloping Gala before, what with her joy at having been invited and not knowing what to have expected. And yet she's appreciably the Princess's most treasured student, personal apprentice, and closest friend. Yet more evidence towards Trollestia?
It's on a school night.
This is the first year she's had friends she wanted to go with. She may have had the opportunity before, but didn't see the point of it any more than she saw the point of anything else beyond her studies.
Not to mention the only reason she wanted to go was to spend more time Celestia. Before the Gala, she's spent who knows how long away from her teacher with only periodic visits for business, so Twilight presumably wanted to make up for lost time. Compare that to what life was probably like while she lived in Canterlot, where the Princess was never more than a short trot away, and there was no real reason to waste valuable study time on a stuffy high class party. Especially considering she never bothered with a mundane, low class party either.
Does Rainbow Dash realize that her boast to Soarin' is impossible? She asks him if he has ever soared past lightning, which is a feat she considers fun. The only thing is that lightning can move at speeds hundreds of times faster than sound, when it hits the ground it hits instantly. I doubt very seriously that even with the Sonic Rainboom that Rainbow Dash is capable of flying that fast, maybe faster than a fighter jet at most. Is lightning somehow slower in their universe?
Two possible answers: one is that Rainbow is talking about flying really close to a cloud when it issues a lightning strike, hence "flying past lightning"; two is that Rainbow would have spouted anything so long as the Wonderbolts actually said something in reply, which would give her an advantage over certain terrain.
If her muscles aren't as strong, then she doesn't deserve the title of since she was getting frustrated at being drowned out.
Season 2 ( 1 of 2 )
The Return of Harmony, Parts 1 & 2
Why didn't Twilight Sparkle just use her spell to walk on clouds to get the ponies high enough to catch Discorded!Rainbow Dash?
They were in a terrible hurry to stop Discord.
If they lost Rainbow Dash now, they might not find her again.
The spell took some prep time and, like other more difficult spells, was draining on Twilight.
Not to mention that Twilight had just cast four de-brainwashing spells in rapid succession, and needed to conserve enough energy to lay the fifth one on Rainbow Dash once they caught her.
There weren't enough clouds around for them to use to chase Rainbow Dash.
Rainbow Dash could just dissipate the clouds and Fluttershy would be too busy trying to catch the falling ponies allowing Rainbow Dash to escape.
Why was there an Alicorn in pony kindergarten?
Two possible answers: Animation error. If you think that's a copout, Twilight was in the middle of a mental breakdown. Things don't have to make perfect sense.
In Luna Eclipsed, we see that tales of Nightmare Moon are the basis of a well-established holiday tradition. Why, then, did no one recognize her way back in Episode 1?
They might have recognized her if they had a minute to think about it. It's one thing to hear a fairy tale of a shadowy, villainous figure that eats children and completely another for said figure to appear in front of you as real as ever. Most ponies would probably think "Is this even real?" if NMM weren't so terrifying.
Does anyone else find it odd that the mane six would be scared of Nightmare Moon knowing full well they defeated her and freed Luna?
It seems that they were scared of her loud voice and mannerisms(It sounded like she was angry). Twilight was the first to approach her. Applejack took a little convincing to accept her. Pinkie Pie was pretending. Rainbow Dash didn't care. Fluttershy is scared of anyone who raises her voice (as we saw with Gilda) and Rarity was not in the episode. It seemed that most ponies were scared of her being angry, or of her portrayal as Nightmare Moon, but NOT of her still being Nightmare Moon.
But Fluttershy was scared the minute she saw Luna, and even called her Nightmare Moon. She actually seemed to be afraid of Nightmare Moon.
Fluttershy was already a terrified nervous wreck just on account of it being Nightmare Night, so it wouldn't take much to make her even more frightened.
Ok, grasping at straws here: Last time the mane characters saw Luna (That we know of) she was timid, smaller and had "normal" hair. In Nightmare night, it was at night(duh) so her coat looked darker, and her hair resembled more Nightmare Moon, plus, she has grew some, and was showing WAY more confidence, resembling more the Nightmare Moon they knew than the Luna that they briefly glimpsed. Add to that the TRADITIONAL CANTERLOT ROYAL VOICE. Twilight, being studious and learning under Princess Celestia herself, probably knew about the voice, either from a book, or from the princess (Hell, there is nothing to say that Celestia doesn't use the voice every now and then). Fluttershy, and everypony else assumed that Luna had been repossessed due to her exterior changes.
Celestia used on Twilight one episode beforehand, at the end of Lesson Zero.
Celestia: TWILIGHT SPARKLE!!!
Perhaps it's all for fun but why is Nightmare Night even happening anymore? It's based on an old legend that was brought full circle by the appearance of Nightmare Moon herself and her subsequent defeat, which I'm sure everypony is already well aware of. To This Troper, that suggests that Nightmare Night no longer has meaning (she CAN'T come back and haunt your family because...well...she's vanquished, though Luna can turn into her form at will).
You get to dress up, get candy, play games and have fun. Why would anyone stop that just because the one central character of the event supposedly doesn't exist anymore? (How many people who party during halloween actually believe in witches and ghosts?)
Luna was shown able to transform back into her Nightmare Moon form easily, and had the same powers to boot without it. Does this suggest that 'Knightmare Moon' was just a form that Luna already had achieved at some point, and whatever evil force or possession took control of her, just coerced her into using permanently because the aesthetic simply 'worked out better?' And considering her 'original' form from her first appearance,whose to say Luna isn't altering herself now to come off prestigious? Or that Celestia isn't either for that matter. (Her younger form shown being of pink shorter hair)
I don't know about the powers, but it seemed that Luna had to possess the Nightmare Moon statue in order to take that form again.
It's probably easy for her to change her appearance with an illusion or transformation spell.
She still needed fake teeth though :)
Of course. Nightmare Moon had normal teeth.
You're assuming Luna was possessed to begin with. Why can't it just have been that Luna was so angry, so jealous, that she did everything she did of her own free will?
Word Of God. While Luna had the feelings, she was being 'assisted' in expressing them.
In "Luna Eclipsed", Princess Luna is shown to be behind the times by a thousand years, unable to speak to her subjects in a way they would expect, the way Princess Celestia would. If we remember that the episodes are out of order, and if we assume that Nightmare Night falls on a similar date to Halloween, then by that episode Luna should have been around for a little over three months (since she came back on what is really the summer solstice). After all that time, Celestia never bothered to tell her how things have changed? Luna never noticed that Celestia never used THE TRADITIONAL ROYAL CANTERLOT VOICE? It makes sense that Luna wouldn't appear to the public for a while, but only if Celestia is HELPING her to be the princess she should be. It seems like Celestia just said, "Okay you're back to normal. You can be princess again. Run along now!" and left Luna to embarrass herself.
Luna's clearly put a fair bit of effort into making a suitably spooky grand entrance, so she can't have been wholly ignorant of this whole "Nightmare Night" business. And interestingly enough, the "Halloween" episode where everypony dresses up and at least mock-pretends not to be the pony they usually are is actually the only one in which we see her use "the voice", or Flowery Elizabethan English for that matter... Food for thought, perhaps.
Remember that colorful egg Pinkie 'laid' as a sight gag? Well, who have we seen chasing candy all Nightmare Night, again?
Sisterhooves Social The Cutie Pox
In "The Cutie Pox", why was Applejack the only one who went with Apple Bloom to Twilight's? I can understand Granny Smith not being there because they didn't want to worry her, but what about Big Macintosh? Did Applejack just whisk Apple Bloom away without telling her older brother? Can you imagine how it would have went if they hadn't of found a cure and he had to find out later? He probably would have kicked their house down in such a fit.
Applejack: Big Macintosh, I'm taking Apple Bloom to Twilight so we can find a cure! Can you stay here and look after Granny Smith and the farm?
Big Macintosh: A-yup.
May the Best Pet Win!
Bullets and tanks are mentioned in "May the Best Pet Win". However we've never seen anypony using modern weaponry in Equestria. Including elite Royal Guards, and you'd think those would be carrying the best weaponry available.
Bullets are not just gun ammo. The term can also apply to the ammunition used in mundane slingshots or other sling-type weapons. That sort of weaponry is much more common in medieval settings, even pseudo-medieval settings like this one.
And "tank" might refer to water tank. Perhaps in Equestria, all water tanks are built to last.
I prefer to think of it as tanks (like the water one). Bullets were a bit tougher until I remember that Hasbro owns the rights to the Dungeons & Dragons monster manual, and the show has used hydras and dragons and manticores, so why not bulettes (Land Sharks)?
She doesn't say he's built like a tank. She says he's unstoppable like one. Water tanks aren't really known for being unstoppable.
There are two possibilities here. First is that tank refers to the kind of tank they'd actually have (but likely never use), which was essentially like a moveable miniature fortress. The second is that tank, in Equestria, means the same thing as it does in RPGs: Heavily armored warriors that are difficult to take down.
Equestria may have had wars in the past, particularily when the three tribes were separate. The unicorns may have employed covered and armored wagons to protect battle-oriented spellcasters. And who's to say Equestria doesn't maintain a standing army just to deter other, more hostile nations (the gryphons come to mind, as do the dragons) from trying to invade? "If you seek peace, prepare for war".
Aren't tanks from RPGs named after the big treaded shooty boomy things? Which, in turn, are named after ... water tanks? (War vehicles? Naw, just some water tanks. Mind the cannon.) Wow, recursive.
Although Rainbow's pet competition includes him, an owl in the lineup was the obvious "not gonna make it" choice because this show, despite how cleverly written is still Merchandise-Driven, and Twilight Sparkle already has an owl for a pet. No way Rainbow Dash would've chosen an owl. It's not cool to have the same pet as somepony else.
The Mysterious Mare-Do-Well
So how come the one Mare-Do-Well with Pinkie Sense became the one pony Rainbow Dash got the drop on successfully?
Same reason she wasn't all twitching in the Everfree Forest: she didn't sense danger or other Pinkie-sense related premonitions. Or maybe the Mare-Do-Well just decided to let Dash get the drop on her and end the whole thing.
The second of these. They all led her to the alley and were all present at that location (even Fluttershy, Rarity and Spike), suggesting that they planned to stage their reveal there. So, most likely Pinkie let Rainbow Dash get the drop on her.
Although Pinkie still looked a little shocked, so it's likely they were planning to pull the reveal, just not quite at that exact moment. I like to think they were planning to lead her straight into a "soften the blow" surprise party.
Probably she just doesn't have/doesn't recognize a specific signal for "a friend you've been playing an elaborate trick on is about to pin you down and rip off your disguise".
I thought she looked more sheepish than shocked. As in "Yeah, it's me. Surprise?" She was reacting to Rainbow's utter loss of words with an apologetic smile.
Now that Rainbow has learned her lesson, will Twilight, Pinkie and AJ stop helping the citizens of Ponyville? It's been proven that the three of them working in tandem are more effective at superheroing than Rainbow Dash alone. Will they suffer guilty consciences now whenever they hear of accidents that they could have prevented?
They all seem happy to help whenever they're around anyway. Hopefully the mysterious wave of freak accidents will just peter out on its own.
Although they may stop playing Mare Do Well, that doesn't mean they won't help out where they can anymore. They just won't do it in costume.
There is still a difference between "looking for problems to fix" and "helping out when you can." Most of the mane six have full-time jobs, so they definitely won't be helping as much as they can. Obviously this is a Sugar Bowl so they won't be delving into the ethics of ignoring the call to heroism, but it's going to bother me a little bit.
Plus, Dash's hubris was clearly getting in the way of her hero work; if she weren't distracted by signing autographs and shouting catchphrases, she might have been able to save all of those ponies on her own. Now that she's learned her lesson about priorities, maybe Ponyville won't need Mare Do Well anymore.
On a slightly different topic, no one mentions which Mare Do Well was the one that rescued the pony in the falling balloon, though we know it isn't Twilight since she's in the crowd immediately after the rescue.
When Rainbow's trying to unmask Mare-Do-Well, she acts like she's expecting her to be someone she'll recognize. But—considering that she didn't seem to expect Mare-Do-Well to be multiple people—she must have thought she was an alicorn, or a hybrid like Cadance, with both wings and a horn. Since both of those seem to be vanishingly rare, with none living in Ponyville, who exactly did Rainbow think Mare-Do-Well might be?
Sweet and Elite
Why is Spike absent from the proceedings? It's Twilight's birthday, and he gets a chance to see Rarity again. In another episode, he even has a photo of the Mane Six with him stuck into the corner. He wouldn't even be out of place here, given that most of the Mane Six aren't being focused on as individuals here. Yet he's not even given an explanation.
Rarity is staying in a suite in a very tall tower. The bellhop pony carried all of her luggage up here. Talk about a workout.
Shouldn't Rarity's friends have learned their lesson after "The Best Night Ever" on how to conduct themselves at formal events?
A fanon theory is that they all had some alcoholic beverages (or the Equestrian version thereof) at Twilight's party, so that explains their lapse of judgement (and the lack of Spike). Alternatively, last time they went to a formal even (i.e. the Grand Galloping Gala), Celestia more or less gave them the tick of approval for causing all of that chaos. So it makes sense that they think that it'd be okay to lighten things up a bit.
Also, even if Twilight spent most of her life in Canterlot, and under Celestia's tutelage, no less, she was so dedicated to studying that she had practically no social life; even hanging around with her classmates was out of question, and Spike was her only friend, and even he had a social life when not assisting Twilight; even if he had invited her to hang around and enjoy an occasional time out, Twilight probably just politely refused and got back to studying , so Spike stopped insisting. Because of this, she never got to attend formal parties and probably didn't even see a valid reason to ever attend them. She just started going to parties after moving to Ponyville and making friends, so she only knows the 'informal party etiquette', that basically consists on just having good fun with friends.
Would it been easier for the bellhop to use his magic to carry Rarity's luggage?
For that matter, why does Rarity even need him? She seems to be able to carry quite a lot of stuff with her magic without much effort later in the episode.
That assumes that he is that powerful, which we don't know. Magic varies in strength from unicorn to unicorn, and he seems to be rather young, a teenage colt at best. Young ponies who aren't Twilight "Jean Grey" Sparkle seems to be rather weak.
When trying to impress the upper crust ponies, why doesn't Rarity mention she and her friends are national heroes?
This. It would not even have destroyed the plot, since they could have found reason to look down on her anyway, but it feels rather fitting behavior for vain and status-conscious Rarity.
Because while Rarity does a bit of bragging during her song, she's clearly only singing it to herself. You'll notice she doesn't do much direct bragging of "I'm so great, I'm so marvelous, I make such wonderful things" to the others... in fact she generally tries to be modest to some extent. "Hey guys, I saved your ass from a possessed night-goddess and a chaos demon.", though true, would put her squarely in the braggart column. Not only does it not fit for Rarity too well, blatant bragging often doesn't go over too well at winning affection.
I wonder, why didn't she at least mention that one of her friends is a princess Celestia's student? Rarity did feel the need to "upgrade" Rainbow Dash to Wonderbolts' coach to up her own status, but she wouldn't even need to lie about Twilight.
Secret of My Excess
It seems weird that Twilight has no knowledge of dragon anatomy or history despite being a pony who loves to learn and read books and for someone who has a dragon for an assistant.
Maybe she thought she didn't have to, given that Spike never showed any concerning signs of turning into a monster before.
A simpler explanation is that Twilight has researched dragon life cycles in the past, but her books had no information about overnight growth spurts driven by excessive greed because it's not part of normal dragon development. So when Twilight sees Spike has suddenly tripled in size, she realizes it's something not covered by her earlier research and has to seek advice from others.
Dragons are very anti-social, and can potentially grow to adult size as soon as they can get grabby. That makes researching them tricky, to say the least. Twilight probably doesn't have any good resources on dragon behavior or life cycles, which was why she tried all the doctors in Ponyville. Might or might be used by the current show runners, but Faust said that Celestia was raising Spike because ponies don't know much about dragons, and had never seen a baby dragon before.
If Ponyville/Equestria is threatened by a physical monster too powerful for their combined efforts to stop, would Spike or the Mane Cast allow for him to become greedy and grow huge again to defeat the monster?
Well, it's a standard procedure in many Godzilla movies; use a monster to defeat another. At least with Spike they already have somepony (Rarity) who can return him to normal once the emergency is over.
This is only Fridge Logic if combined with what Lauren Faust said about Spike being raised by Celestia, which may not be canon with the current crew, but if he was, why did he get just one present a year (obviously from Twilight) and not two? It feels a little weird that Celestia, the Trollestia meme aside, would raise a kid and not give him a single birthday present in all his life. You could say she somehow knew and wanted to avoid this scenario, but then you wonder why she never instructed Twilight to never feed him birthday cake after midnight, so to speak.
Maybe his present from Celestia was a big dinner with lots of rare gems to eat; it would satisfy the obligation for a gift while not indulging his inherent greed (since he effectively eats his gift) and since he gets to eat it he might not consider it a "gift" in the traditional sense.
Spike got that fire ruby from somewhere. Maybe Celestia gives him a flashy bonus sometime before his birthday? Not at actual gift, but still a sign of her appreciation.
Family Appreciation Day
Just what did they call Granny Smith as a filly? It wouldn't make sense to call her "Granny" as a kid but it would ruin the pun if they didn't.
Granny Smith is a type of apple. Just like Applejack Applebloom and Big Macintosh, it's following a naming pattern in the family.
She's a grandmother so it would make sense that she was married at one point and changed her last name. Maybe she had another apple-related name first but there was a Smith family that she married into and it's just a coincidence that she ended up with an apple related pun-name again when she became a grandmother. Alternately it's entirely possible that in this universe, Granny Smith apples were named after HER. She seems to be an expert in the field and has been around for quite some time.
In her flashback, Granny Smith refers to her family as the Smith Family, not the Apple Family. It seems more likely that the apple pun was intentional on her part and why it started in the first place. Could be another part of the Zap Apple ritual.
In Winter Wrap Up, Twilight says that the tradition has been in place for (if I recall correctly) something like centuries. Since it was started after the founding of Ponyville, which we now know Granny Smith was a part of, this suggests that ponies have a ridiculously long lifespan (contradicting Lauren Faust's statement that they have lifespans comparable to real horses). Since we don't see a whole lot of younger ponies (the only school in Ponyville is a small one-house affair), perhaps this is typical; they live long and rarely reproduce.
If I'm not mistaken Lauren Faust's statement was more of a Shrug of God to explain their Manchild behavior at times.
It's more likely that Winter Wrap Up predates Ponyville's founding and that it is celebrated across Equestria as opposed to just Ponyville.
Twilight's exact words: "Ponyville was started by Earth Ponies so for hundreds of years they've never used magic to clean up winter."
She might just be overestimating the time that has passed since Ponyville's founding.
Consider how many Earth Ponies were in line for filly Granny to buy the Zap Apple Jam. If we consider how the American settler expansion went, small towns would be developed after families settled in around areas. The analogy to Equestria: for hundreds of years, Earth Ponies all had their own farms to tend the land and celebrating Winter Wrap Up as part of their farming ritual without magical help; Celestia gave the Apples their own plot of land; as a result of the Zap Apples and Stinkin' Rich's foresight, the area because a town, still celebrating WWU and as Unicorns and Pegasi moved into the area, they too participated without performing any of their own special magic to keep the same tradition alive but expanding to the weather, snow-clearing and animal duties that we see. In other words, Earth Ponies did found both WWU and Ponyville but WWU was already in place before Ponyville was founded.
But in Winter Wrap Up, Spike asks why the ponies of Ponyville don't just change the seasons with magic like they do in Canterlot.
My impression is that Winter Wrap Up is only done without magic in Ponyville (and possibly other Earth Pony settlements). Unicorn-dominated settlements like Canterlot simply perform WWU using magic.
Another consideration: Recall the fallout of Hearth's Warming Eve where (hopefully) each species of pony learned not to gloat their special talents and resent the special talents of other species. Keeping this in mind, it can be easy to see WWU created where everyone would use more physical labor together to complete the task of changing seasons simply to avoid repeating the past.
Doesn't it seem rather trollish of Celestia to give a family in such poverty a homestead next to one of the most dangerous regions in Equestria?
No; it's giving them a challenge. The Earth Ponies are the hardest workers and giving them the toughest place to live makes sense that way.
If Pegasus ponies have been controlling the weather around Ponyville for years, how do the weather signs that come around Zap Apple season get through? Are the pegasus aware not to mess with magical weather?
Given the magical nature of the trees and the fact that the trees came from the Everfree Forest (which has been stated to have its own naturally occurring weather), it's likely that the trees themselves are actually the source of the Zap Apple weather signs.
Actually, Pegasi can't mess with magical weather. Otherwise, the problem of the Windigos would have been solved in about five seconds.
I forget ... weren't the signs generally from the Everfree? You know, the forest that lies outside of pony control?
How, exactly, can the Apple family in Granny Smith's flashback starve? They're ponies living in the middle of a great big field of grass. The equines in this show have explicitly been referred to as hay-eaters, so obviously they can eat grass, too.
Just because you can eat something doesn't mean it's filling and will give you all the nutrients you need, and "starving" is easier to say that "underfed and malnourished" on a show that's ultimately aimed at children.
Why didn't Diamond Tiara knew about her familys connection with the Apple Family? Her family visits them every year when the Zap Apples are appearing and her father probably mentioned them in his story.
Was it just me, or was there a serious Broken Aesop at the end of "Baby Cakes"? Pinkie wrote a letter to Princess Celestia about babysitting isn't just about playing with children, and that a babysitter has to be responsible. But Pinkie was responsible! Her problem was that the babies she was caring for suddenly manifested extremely powerful and unpredictable magical and avionic abilities, and she was one earth pony handling them by herself. If she made a mistake, maybe it was not accepting Twilight's help, regardless of how condescendingly it was offered. It seems to me that a better Aesop would have been that sometimes you need to swallow your pride, or even your proper self-respect, and accept help you need even if it is offered condescendingly and insultingly. That might be something of a Family-Unfriendly Aesop for a kids' show, though.
Another good alternative: Be careful how you take offense. Twilight didn't realize she was being condescending, which happens a lot to socially-awkward individuals. From Twilight's perspective, she was thrown out of her best friend's house for offering to help her babysit. Which, given her sensitivity toward her friendships, would have sent Twilight crying back to the library...
...which probably would have resulted in a letter being sent to Princess Celestia, in the hope that she wasn't too busy to lend some comfort. And who could theoretically activate a pony's full power potential at one month old. Suddenly that third act sounds more like a case of divine interference.
...Or maybe just an answering letter back of the Princess gently explaining to Twilight how what she said was insensitive.
...assuming Twilight Sparkle even noticed she'd been thrown out. She didn't even seem realize Pinkie Pie was angry at her, let alone was throwing her out. Twilight just assumed Pinkie Pie was more confident than she'd initially expected.
Twilight already understands her mistake. She'd be upset because of her mistake. She would be writing to the Princess in hopes of getting some comfort, and maybe some guidance on making up for her mistake. Trying to explain it to her at that point would only piss her off and complicate things further. By activating the Cake twins' powers early, Celestia bumps the task of babysitting them up a few notches to break Pinkie as well, placing both ponies on equal terms for when they make up later.
Guys, Celestia doesn't need to involve herself in everything.
Pinkie Pie's lesson was more in accepting that being responsible was hard and that she couldn't always be the fun person. She wanted to be responsible and she acted it, but she didn't know how hard it would be.
Rarity and Twilight are quick to point out that baby Unicorns can have spurts of magic. This raises questions about Sweetie Belle's proficiency in magic which so far hasn't been demonstrated even in for example, places where Rarity would use telekinetic magic frequently.
Also at only a month old, Pound Cake is capable of flying like a pro while the older Scootaloo can barely fly with her wings.
Pegasi have their own magic that lets them stand on cloud and helps them fly so a baby Pegasus might be able to fly, but as they grow older they lose their bursts of magic and learn how to fly properly. Either that, or Pegasus wings don't grow to keep proportion with foals until puberty.
Baby venomous snakes have a habit of being more dangerous than older ones because they're too young to conserve their venom when they bite, so they inject their entire load on the first chomp. As they grow older though they get more of a handle on things. One can assume the various pony breeds work sort of the same way. Kinda. Maybe.
Extend this to why filly Fluttershy wasn't great at flying when she was at flight school; during her teenage growth spurt, her wings likely trailed her heavier body, while the other ponies (just starting their growth) has light body masses their young wings could easily support.
However this leads to the question of whether or not this is true of all pegasi or not. Canonically, we know Fluttershy is a year older than Pinkie. But we don't know how old the others in the mane cast are. If they're only a year apart in age, or if Pinkie is the youngest in the group, this means that Pound's flight capabilities may be unnatural. Pinkie certainly seemed shocked to see him already flight capable, implying that he shouldn't have been capable of this at that age. This may also invalidate the idea that Scoots is just unwilling to take the time to learn how. She's basically a younger version of Dash with a near identical tomboy attitude. Scootaloo is shown looking to be about the same age as Dash was when we see her as a filly in Cutie Mark Chronicles. Dash was already flying at that age and her attitude, as said, is almost a dead ringer for Scootaloo's even years later, and she seemed MORESO at Scoots's age, even when standing up for Fluttershy. Scoots hasn't actually flown at all yet. Instead she's only made wing assisted jumps. Pound can not only fly, he does so in a way that makes him capable of imitating Spider-Man by walking along the ceiling while flapping his wings to defy gravity. There was never any indication that Pound would be able to do this kind of stunt flying until he was older, but he's doing it at a month old. Either Pound is a prodigy, his ability is unnatural, or there may be something seriously wrong with Scootaloo.
Newborn human babies can swim by instinct. Once past a certain age, they lose that ability.
It's more likely that Pound is simply a prodigy of sorts. Just look at the Mane Cast. Twilight had a burst of magic so powerful that the ponies testing her- who were probably very experienced in magic themselves, being officials of a school for gifted unicorns- were awestruck at her power. Rainbow Dash performed a Sonic Rainboom as a filly, while there has been no other mention of even an adult pony doing the same. These two could fall into the same category of 'child prodigies'. That's two separate ponies within a group of six! Perhaps brilliant children are a common thing in Equestria. With odds like that, Pound could very well be one himself already- or maybe just a keen combination between prodigy and luck, coupled with the aforementioned newborn ability to be absolutely zany despite the laws of adult pony physics.
In the same line of thought, maybe there's nothing wrong with Scootaloo. Rainbow Dash was shown at flight camp, in Cloudsdale, where a pegasus her age probably belongs if they want to get a head start on flying. Scootaloo, on the other hand, is a pegasus living on the ground, around earthbound ponies. She's not surrounded with pegasi, and likely doesn't have a tenth of the pressure or influence on her to fly as Dash did- Scootaloo would be accepted by her society of mixed ponies, because flight isn't an absolute requirement at that age. Up in the sky would have been completely different for Dash, whose society would not have been as accepting of a flightless pegasi at her age because they are IN THE SKY. They would have to make sure that everyone is flying by a certain age, or else some poor filly could suffer a fate similar to Fluttershy, without being as lucky.
On another note, Scootaloo could just be slacking off to a crippling degree. She is shown traveling with a miniature scooter, a land-based vehicle, so she has even less reason to really worry about flying right now, as wings aren't necessary to operate a scooter. For someone that is such a big fan of Rainbow Dash, she doesn't seem to be placing a lot of priority on actually flying yet.
Guys one month old babies are very light and if you noticed pound cake was using the same motions with his wings as scootaloo does, when a baby pegasus is that old, simply flapping their wings that fast is enough to let them fly due to the lack of weight, when a pegasus grows older they get heavier and therefore have to learn how to fly differently, like using thermals, or the magic that pegasi seem to have.
Carrot Cake's great-great-great-great grandfather was a Unicorn and Cup Cake's great aunt's second cousin twice removed was a Pegasus. Both these facts raise questions about how the genetics of the three pony breeds would work.
The show doesn't necessarily have to use real life genetics. This would only be Fridge Logic if it went against already established rules of how genetics work in the show. We already have a possible previous occurrence in Rarity' and Sweetie Belle's father, assuming his hat conceals lack of a horn.
If the genes for Pegasus and Unicorns are recessive it can make sense. But for this to work the babies would have had to inherit Pegasus (for Pound Cake) or Unicorn (Pumpkin Cake) genes from both parents. But seeing as recessive genes can stay hidden for many many generations it might not show up on their family tree at all. The chances of the twins being one of each race is unlikely but not impossible.
Plus, this raises the issue of just how old Ponyville is. If Granny Smith saw the founding of Ponyville when she was around Twi's age, would there be enough years for Carrot Cake's great-great-great-great grandfather to exist? Granted, ponies existed way before Ponyville was founded, so the Cakes may be an extremely old lineage.
Who says they all lived in Ponyville?
Too many people are applying high-school level Mendelian genetics to the problem. Most real-world physical traits are a result of many genes working together, with some genes' expression being conditional on other genes, and some genes acting to suppress others. Then you have dominant, recessive, semi-dominant, and co-dominant alleles, and that's not even getting into sex-linked inheritance. The whole thing can be summed up as: "It's complicated."
At first it seems rather convenient that the Mane Six are all present at the maternity ward. It seems likely that Pinkie was initially invited but she couldn't couldn't keep the news quiet and ended up squealing to everypony on the way to the hospital and that her closest friends heard and tagged along for moral support for Pinkie as much as the Cakes.
Hearth's Warming Eve
In "Hearth's Warming Eve", the play ends with the flag of Equestria being put up - it's suppoed to be set in the time before Celestia, yet the flag shows Celestia and Luna, straight from the storybook in the series premiere. Surely they could have tracked down the correct flag design with Twilight Sparkle on hand?
Look closer at the two flags. On the Hearth's Warming Eve one the alicorns are generically colored, while the one from the pilot they are colored as Celestia and Luna.
OTOH the depictions of Celestia and Luna in the stained glass window where they're shown defeating Discord in The Return of Harmony Part 1 look exactly the same as the alicorns seen in the Hearth's Warming Eve flag.
Two Alternative Explanations:
Reality Is Unrealistic. The original Equestrian flag is known mostly to historians and scholars, but not to the average lay pony. Trying to use it during the play would've gotten calls that the flag was wrong.
The original design truly was lost to history. Be it because of Discord's chaotic reign in between Equestria's founding and Celestia Luna's rise to power, or just simply being forgotten over time, modern Equestrians don't know what the original flag looked like so use the current one in the play.
It's possible that the story of how Equestria was made was slightly warped. When it's stated that Celestia and Luna defeated Discord and saved Equestria, they may have saved what eventually became Equestria, and the disagreements between the pony tribes was a result of Discord's rule that wasn't instantaneously fixed because of how severe the problem was.
This one's countered by the narration. The play takes place before the reign of Celestia and Luna (which also forces it to pre-Discord).
Not necessarily Pre-Discord. Discord's rule came before Luna' and Celestia's reign, which means it could come before Equestria's founding, as well.
This makes me wonder, and it's hard to imagine since I'm an American, but ... how often do nations change their flag designs? Ours has been pretty consistent, aside from that blue bit, for about a century or two.
Seems that the US flag would be a pretty good example of one changing over time itself, what with the occasional star being added every now and then over the course of history. But the fact is, yes, flag designs do change (not always drastically, but still) over sufficient timespans in real life, and it's also not at all uncommon for the same nation to have several quite contemporary variants on the same general design theme as well, each to be flown under its own appropriate circumstances.
So where were the Alicorns; did they exist prior to these events?
Considering Equestria isn't ruled by Discord when the ponies find it, it's possible the Princesses had already dealt with Discord and simply hadn't established their rule over what would become Equestria yet meaning the play is set between Discord's downfall and the establishment of Celestia and Luna's rule.
That creates a different problem however; the Pegasi, Unicorns and Earth Ponies founded Equestria on their own without the help of Alicorns; then Alicorns came out of nowhere and are now the rulers.
However if Celestia and Luna are really goddesses, then it's possible they started out as symbols of pony unity and then became Physical Gods due to the ponies' belief in them.
OR Alicorns are an odd interbreeding. Faust has claimed that Alicorns are a mix of all three. (LEGO Genetics may be to blame.)
OR Discord turned two ponies into alicorns because he though the ideal of him enslaving the ponies' sybloms of unity was funny.
Alternatively Discord appeared after they founded Equestria. Still no explanation of the Alicorn race.
It's possible that there is no such thing as an "Alicorn race." Possibly Celestia and Luna are just very special ponies.
It is stated by Spike at the beginning of the play that it took place long before the Rule of Celestia.
Which gives a bit of Fridge Horror as it means after all this, Discord just showed up and conquered Equestria.
Just because the three races of ponies worked together to found Equestria doesn't mean years of disdain for each other suddenly evaporates. Makes perfect sense that Discord would be able to take advantage of that later.
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see the problem here. The Alicorns are clearly considered deities in Equestria. The three tribes formed Equestria and their harmonious nature attracted Discord. He conquered the land and ruled over it until the Alicorns appeared (possibly from the heavens) and defeated him with the Elements of Harmony. Out of gratitude, the three pony tribes made the Alicorns their leaders. What's the issue?
"Clearly," nothing. There is nothing whatsoever in the show to support the alicorns being gods, except MAYBE a few rare oaths taken in Celestia's name (which could easily be seen as oath's taken in royalty's name).
If the Unicorns were dealing with the whole day/night thing before Celestia and Luna came along, where did they even get the idea?
It's possible that it's been forgotten among the Unicorns since Princess Celestia and Luna have been doing it themselves for over 1000 years.
From the opening scene of Friendship is Magic's very first episode, Princess Celestia uses "Unicorn powers to raise the sun at dawn." The Hearth's Warming Eve play implies that the pre-Princess Unicorns split the effort of the task amongst themselves.
The Unicorn's sun-raising magic might have been "divine magic" as they say in roleplaying games; they were a priest-class as well as a mage-class (social class...not character class) who invoked the Princesses to move the sun and moon. Priests, warriors and farmers also happen to be an old stereotypical division of society…Later, when Discord turned up, Luna and Celestia took physical form, descended to Dirtville and defeated him.
This troper has the theory that before there was no interbreeding between the pony tribes (they did not get along). But once they started working together, mixing of the lines likely happened, and lo and behold, the first alicorn was born.
Considering that Luna knew Star Swirl the Bearded, Clover's mentor, it's possible that day/night powers originated with the princesses and passed to the historical Unicorns through Luna and Star Swirl's friendship.
Luna Eclipsed showed Luna knew of Star Swirl...not necessarily that she knew him. There is nothing to conclusively demonstrate that she knew him personally let alone they were friends.
Luna did tell Twilight that she had "even got the bells right". That implies firsthand knowledge.
Knowledge of Star Swirl's iconic apparel but not necessarily the pony himself.
There are not really that many conflicting elements in what we know about Equestria. It was founded by the three races when the lands were discovered. Then Discord came along and started his reign of chaos. THEN Celestia and Luna fought against him and became the rulers. There's elements missing (how the Alicorns came to be being the most important one) but the larger parts of the story can coexist.
Still doesn't explain where Celestia and Luna come from however.
Well...it's not like we had any idea before this episode either. We know they exist and that they are literally the union of all three races thus deities. That's all.
The unified Equestria banner seen at the end indicates that they already existed at that time and were at least known of by the ponies even if they didn't live among them then. It's possible that they date back to before pony history began.
The flag itself might just be a modern prop for use in the play (i.e. a modern Equestrian flag to make it clear to the audience that Equestria was founded) rather than a historically accurate version of the flag that was actually planted. Note that in that scene, the backdrop is clearly painted. That whole scene is a part of the play...not a part of the history.
Luna and Celestia could have been there for this and similarly, Discord could have already been in charge of Equestria. Not knowing the time frame doesn't help, but it should be pointed out that the ponies seemed to be saved by unicorn magic acting out of order.
About 95% of the above can pretty much be explained by the fact it's a play and thus some details of the actual events were likely left out for times sake. Everypony knows Celestia and Luna are the ruler, so that'd be a logical part to skip in the play if a part had to be skipped.
Wait one cotton-pickin' minute. Wendigos feed on hostility and hatred, right? Then what good is a frozen pony to them? Why would they neutralize their only source of food? Further this just teaches the ponies to avoid hostility in future which is counterproductive for the Wendigos!
The Wendigos seem to be a force of nature. They don't plan for the future; they just freeze everything because that is what their instincts tell them to do. Even if it would end up harming them in the end, they are either not sentient enough to care or don't have enough free will to stop.
Alternatively the Wendigos could simply move on to other ponies once they've "finished" this meal. They might not expect to feed on the same one group's hatred forever any more than we expect to feed on the same one chicken forever.
The difference is that we literally can't feed on the same chicken forever while the Wendigos have the choice. Why wouldn't they just take the easiest path? Surely it's much easier to feed off the same group of ponies than to move around looking for fresh meat all the time.
See point 1 and 2.
In the intro, Twilight points out an "8 foot tall candy cane" which is the first real measurement (outside of time) on the show and of course this has sent a few fans to figure out the heights of the various ponies now that we have this measurement. But a larger question to ask is: where did they get this word/measurement? Historically we had "foot" based on the measure of that part of a human body but of course ponies lack this. (Of course one has to recognize that it makes no sense for the writers to introduce a fact measurement term and try to force the young audience to understand that; "8 foot" is a easy measurement to understand.)
They know what feet are despite not having them; I mean, in "Owl's Well That Ends Well", Twilight explicitly mentions "[Spike's] ketchup-covered feet" as to how Owlowiscious and she were able to find Spike after he ran away. So possibly they used another creature's feet as reference for their measurements?
Horses have feet. They've got one big toe which we call a hoof. Their definition of a foot (the measurement of length) would probably be different to ours though.
A common Fan Fiction trope is to refer to 'hooves' or 'trots'. Or just junk it all and go with 'metres'.
Princess Platinum seems to be wearing an ermine cape. Wonder what it is actually made of…
Magic-made synthetics? Course they might've not been so nice to animals back then…
Or they are pragmatic enough to for instance skin ermine that have died of natural causes, take whatever else is of utility to ponies from the body and feed the rest to the buzzing buzzards and other scavengers.
Or being a ruler, an elitist enough to ride one of her subjects (and thus willing to have lots of magic wasted on her appearance) and an Unicorn, the cape may be made of living ermine in much the same way as Luna wore a cloak made out of bats.
May also be simple the prop that has it (and made by modern pony day synthetic fur) and thus that's how we see it in the "historical" parts.
Considering the play depicts the events more than a thousand years before Twilight and her friends were born you'd expect the characters in it to speak a bit differently, using words like "thou" and "thee". It has already been established in Luna Eclipsed that the language ponies use wasn't always like modern English.
Could be true for the pony audience who just watch the actors playing on stage. However for us most of the play appears in some form of flashback meaning that using at least some of Old/Middle English words would seem logical.
The fan chronology suggests that Discord will rule sometime after the founding of Equestria followed by Celestia and Luna defeating him. The Royal Canterlot Voice-style may not have actually existed until the point that the sisters take over and formalize a monarchy-like system.
While it's true that The Royal Canterlot Voice may not have existed during the time of events depicted in play, the language could still be (and most likely was) very different. By logic it should have even more old words than the language Luna was speaking with in Luna Eclipsed.
By logic the language should be completely incomprehensible to anyone who isn't an English major. Both the show's writers and the Mane Six probably decided to use modern English to make it easier to follow for their respective audiences.
Exactly. In fact, one could also argue that three separate pony tribes would each have their own language...yet what language is used in Jesus Christ Superstar? 'Israel 4 BC had no mass communication ... '
Hang on; Pinkie Pie openly calls attention to the fact that the world is round. So...how do the Unicorns (and later the Princesses) make the sun and moon "rise" and "set"?
She says it's round. That doesn't mean it orbits the Sun.
It's not the Earth orbiting the Sun that creates day and night. It's the spinning of the Earth.
Perhaps they raise the sun by rotating the planet.
So when Princess Platinum (Rarity) rides Clover the Clever (Twilight Sparkle) across the stream, why the hell was Clover wearing a bridle?
Good point. Bridles are pretty modern (Applejack hitches one up on Rainbow in 'Bridle Gossip'). Call it a little anachronism in the play that a modern bridle would be shown in ancient times.
Although possible, it seems odd that all three of the leaders at the time and all three of their assistants would be female. Might there have been some Cross Casting going on? 'Princess' Platinum is the only character who's explicitly female; the others are all variously gender-neutral. Commander Hurricane in particular seems mighty militaristic and aggressive, although perhaps no more so than Rainbow herself. And some of the interactions between Platinum and Clover take on a slightly different tone if you suppose Star Swirl the Bearded's apprentice may have been male.
Private pansy refers to Commander Hurricane as "her".
Fans have speculated that Equestria is a matriarchy by tradition. If that's true, then it would make sense for all the significant historical figures to be mares. If there was a real-world historical story with three political leaders and their immediate assistants and all of them were men, you wouldn't question it too much, would you? That's just how things were. Though I don't disagree that any of them could also be crossplaying, but there's no reason to assume.
As pointed out above, it could also be that the characters in the play didn't represent just one person, but rather groups within the tribes. "Princess Platinum" could be short hand for the unicorn nobility, "Commander Hurricane" for the Pegasus Military Brass, and "Chancelor Puddinghead" as the Earth Pony Government, while Clever Clover, Smart Cookie, and Private Pansy were stand ins for the scholars, farmers, and soldiers respectively. Since they're just ideas, even if they're named after real people(as Clever Clover probably was), it doesn't exactly matter who was cast as them. The play wouldn't have been largely affected if Princess Platinum had been Prince Platinum.
I think it varies throughout the play, actually. I don't doubt that when the ponies first meet up to try to solve the problem, the characters are representing individual ponies, but when they set out to Equestria? I highly doubt 6 ponies are the ancestors of every single pony in Equestria. ( for one thing, assuming Starswirl was still around, I doubt Clover the Clever would have left him behind)
Season 2 ( 2 of 2 )
The Last Roundup
Why didn't Applejack's friends and family join her in Canterlot to watch the rodeo?
Probably the family couldn't afford it. We known from her wish to make money at the Gala that the family doesn't always have enough money. This might also be part of why she was ashamed to have not won a money prize.
Okay, but what about her friends? Not only did they have enough to go to Canterlot, but they also had enough to go to Dodge as well.
Considering that it was an emergency matter, well, Applejack disappeared and they probably pulled out their savings for their friend.
It could also be that the show tickets were a lot more expensive than the train tickets.
It may have been harvest season; AJ knew that this event was coming up and the town needed her prize winnings, so arranged to have her cousins to help harvest apples while she couldn't be there.
If AJ had enough money to offer the stage coach ponies double to outrun her friends, then quadruple to counter Twilight's offer of triple, then why was she worried about returning home empty-hoofed? It seems like Miss Jubilee must pay her cherry orchard workers really well for one week of work!.
AJ wasn't acting rationally. Clearly, at that point she'd rather spend more money than she has than letting the others find out why she didn't want to come back home.
We don't know how expensive the carriage fare was. it could have just been a couple bits.
The entire chase sequence. How is a horse-drawn carriage faster than a regular, unburdened horse? Rainbow Dash can fly faster than she can run, yet she stays on the ground. A properly motivated Pinkie Pie can run faster than Rainbow Dash can fly, yet she sits in the cart. Why didn't Twilight just magic one of the wheels off AJ's cart, or make hers go faster like in Winter Wrap Up? Heck, Rarity could have even used her "Oh boooys!" line on the carriage ponies.
RD can't carry the cart and fly at the same time, and neither can Fluttershy, for that matter, for all that her speed is comparable to Rainbow Dash's. They couldn't even jump the train using their wings until they lost the weight of Rarity and Pinkie Pie. Team Friendship all wanted to catch up to AJ, not just one of them. Knocking the wheels off the other carriage risks Applejack and the horses pulling it, and they already tried bribing the horses to stop.
I'd say Rule of Funny. As we have seen several times, a pegasus can fly while pulling a loaded vehicle, even stopping it in mid air (Feeling Pinkie Keen provides two good examples).
The reason for Applejack's carriage is simple: as soon as she tries to run on her own, it takes Rainbow Dash only a couple seconds to pin her down. She couldn't do that while Applejack was in a vehicle pulled by four other ponies.
Applejack jumps the gun by trying to cross the tracks before the train gets there. There aren't many repercussions for her taking this great risk, never mind endangering four other pony lives into the bargain, so I've got two fridge logic moments:
Call me a Moral Guardian, but isn't this a bit of a bad thing to show on kid's TV? Crossing a train track is within their everyday experience, or at least will be when they learn to drive, and AJ is certainly the sort of character they could look at as a role model. It seems to be mitigated by the carriage ponies chewing her out for it, but still, a semi-comedic line doesn't seem like much of a punishment.
If you are old enough to learn to drive, and you still think that it's a good idea to race trains because of something you saw on a kid's show, you should not be driving. Also, where are today's teens supposed to get a horse-drawn carriage?
Presuming that last comment was an attempt at Comically Missing the Point, the fact is that people have tried crossing train tracks while the barrier is down, and some of them have been killed doing it. While it's not likely they'd be inspired to do it by watching one scene from a kid's TV show about fantasy ponies, and I'm not saying remove the scene, that action deserves a bit more than a "Lady, you're trouble," and something more like "What the hay, lady?"
Oooooor, the point could have been 'acting irrationally causes more problems'. We already know Applejack wasn't being rational at this point- she thought leaving EVERYTHING she knew behind to go earn money would somehow be better than a simple 'I didn't make the cut' admission. She was already panicking beyond reason, and acting even further past that. It wouldn't be hard to imagine that the point of this scene was to show that acting irrationally won't solve your problems (much less running away from them, metaphorically or physically), and can possibly endanger people around you- even complete strangers. Lesson Zero, anyone?
Why didn't the four carriage ponies just dig in their hooves and stop? It's just as much their fault as AJ's, and they seemed to have plenty of time to slow down.
They figured they could make it. And they did.
They looked pretty nervous about it (unlike AJ, who looked gleeful at the thought of getting across in time), and chewed out AJ for making them do it. If they were that bothered, they could have stopped. Yet they didn't.
They were part of a high speed chase. Higher speed = longer stopping distance, meaning they might not have been able to stop before hitting/getting hit by the train anyway, so in this stressful situation they decided to go with what AJ said. Was it unwise? Yes, but so are most decisions made during stress.
The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000
The story is focused on apple cider. ....... this would be the AMERICAN version of cider, because in the United Kingdom, apple cider is alcoholic! On wonders how the subtext of this episode would be received over there, especially if it results in hilarious bonuses!
Maybe, but cider needs time to ferment and the Apples and the Flim-Flam brothers were selling their cider the same day it was made, so it really couldn't have been hard cider (which, incidentally, certainly does exist in the United States).
Except that Berry Punch (Who, in fanon, is an alcoholic and in the actual show just likes to drink things) is the one who the camera focuses on when Flam says that "It's the same in every town. Thirsty throats, dry tongues, and not a drop of cider to be found." Her face is one of complete shock (about 5:10) to realize that there not just no cider in Ponyville, but since other towns are in cantering distance, maybe no cider ANYWHERE. There is nowhere for her to get her drink on, and she needs it... whether it's hard cider or not. Besides, we don't know if they add anything between the giant grindstone and the tap when they're making it in the competition, it'd be hidden behind the wheel, or within the Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000. If you look at Cheerilee's face after she drinks, she's definitely got a "I'm having a wonderful time with this cider" face at about 3:00.
Unlikely. Alcohol is never going to make an appearance in a kids' show. What magic substance would they be adding to the cider to transform it into hard cider, anyway? You can't just mix fresh cider and grain alcohol and call it hard cider.
Equestrian apples could conceivably have some natural alcohol content once ripe. That's straying into WMG territory, though; more likely we're just looking at an example of Frothy Mugs of Water.
For the record, unfiltered, unfermented apple juice would be called "apple must" in Europe.
Alright, Granny Smith makes a foolish bet because she got called a chicken. If the Apple family lose their cider-selling rights they won't have the money to keep the farm during the winter. That's fine. That's a series of logical events. But by the time the contest has been lost literally everypony involved has made the bizarre mental leap that the bet was actually for ownership of the farm! The FlimFlam brothers talk about renaming Sweet Apple Acres, Applejack talks about packing up and getting out, and none of the Mane Six seem to realise the error. Yes, you might have to sell the farm eventually, but you don't have instantly hand it over to the FlimFlam brothers! That was never part of the deal!
Everypony also missed another important point in their eagerness to escalate the episode's conflict: the bet only involved the right to sell cider. The only source of apples in the region is Sweet Apple Acres. You might not be able to sell your own cider while the FlimFlam brothers are around, but you can just refuse to sell them the apples they need to make it until they go out of business and move on instead!
That wouldn't work. The brothers said that they could simply get their apples from elsewhere. They only needed the south field for the competition, because you can't have a race within one hour if one of the contestants is rushing off to the next county for apples.
Or do what any smart enterprise with a monopoly over resources would do: jack up the prices for their competitors. If the brothers keep buying Sweet Apple Acres' wares, then there's no need for the Apple family do produce the cider anymore to sustain themselves during the winter, and if they don't then they leave town and the Apples get back to making cider. Of course, this isn't strictly an "honest" way to do business, but it could've happened...
Flim: Why are your apples so expensive to us?
Applejack: Oh, you know. Export taxes, certified quality, moral damage fee... You're free to buy apples elsewhere, sir. Ain't it right, Big Mac?
Big Macintosh: Aayup.
They can't afford to keep the farm without selling cider. Applejack would've had to sell it to the brothers. Maybe it was a deleted scene.
Applejack mentioned that cider sales is what keeps them afloat through winter. They lose the cider business, they essentially go bankrupt and have to end up losing the farm anyway. Perhaps they decided it would be best to cut their losses, take what they have, and use it to start up business elsewhere rather than have their funds slowly deplete until they can't even move somewhere else.
They didn't have rights to the farmhouses or any further apples, or even would have known that the Apples probably would sell them apples in the future — they were just being cruel and rubbing their victory in, and misjudging the crowd terribly when doing so.
Maybe the part where Granny Smith said (paraphrased), "If we win, I never wanna see either of you in Ponyville again!" it extended to if the Apples lost as well?
Apple supplies. TLDR version: Where did the brothers get the apples for the cider batch on their second visit to Ponyville?
Expanded version: On their second visit to Ponyville, the brothers have a barrel taken off them by Applejack. Applejack insists that they can't sell the cider because it's made from Apple family apples (main four members, or all the apple family?). The brothers then say that they can simply get more apples elsewhere in Equestria and come back with more cider. If there's another orchard they can get to outside of Ponyville, how could Applejack know that the cider was produced from Apple family apples (i.e. from Sweet Apple Acres)? If Applejack means all Apple family members rather than just the four, how can she speak on behalf of absent family members with their own orchards, and if she can then doesn't that make it awkward for the brothers? They'd have no supplier, so they couldn't stay in Ponyville and their promise to bring more cider is an empty bluff. I am assuming that the Apple family are the only suppliers of apples, but given how extensive the family is and how no other suppliers have been shown to exist I see that as a fair assumption. Even if it wasn't, I still see some logical problems in this dialogue however I interpret it.
The most likely answer is that the initial barrel was made from the main four members' apples, and the brothers' claim to be able to get their own supply *was* an empty bluff. All part of their ploy to pressure the Apple Family into taking their bet.
What the hell were the Flim Flam Brothers thinking treating potential suppliers like horseapples? I can genuinely see them taking a cut in Quality Control for more barrels if they were panicked and gunning for numbers, but you never make the product about ego. It's on par with Dick Dastardly Stops to Cheat levels of ineptitude.
Seems to be the point. They were Con Artists first, business ponies second. All they cared about was making a quick buck and their actual business sense was zero to none. Even if they'd actually kept Sweet Apple Acres, they'd probably have had zero idea how to run the thing.
They'd probably just pick all the apples clean then sell the valuable farmland to someone else and head off with all the profits.
Applejack, I know Sweet Apple Acres is family owned, but please hire some help if you can't meet demands year after year, or at least impose some simple rationing like "One mug to a customer."
Considering how big the Apple family is, they could very well bring more of them to the farm to keep it family owned!
The Apples could probably make more cider per day if they wanted to, as pulled off in the competition, and it's not an issue of the apples selling better than cider as raw material and labor saved, so maybe they're specifically trying not to meet demand and stagger out supply in order to keep cider a commodity? That's valid, right?
Applejack said they were trying their best, so probably not. They only managed to make so much cider by literally working themselves to exhaustion and more than doubling their labor force.
When it comes down to it, the Apples seem to have a VERY poor hand in customer relations and business sense. Even if hiring extra hands is out of the question, there are a number of solutions that wouldn't cost them any extra money to implement, nor impact profts. They could impose product-per-customer limits, put a delay on sales to make sure they have enough to satisfy all of their customers, or at the very least impose a "waiting list" for the ponies in line who didn't get to buy cider on any given day.
Or they could just raise the price. It's simple supply and demand. If there is more demand then supply raise the price until the demand willing to pay equals the supply. Welcome to economics.
Why didn't Dash just camp out for the second day? Okay, I know she's pretty impatient but given how bad she wanted some cider, you'd think even she could wait. Or hell, maybe even ask Applejack if she could spend the night at her place if she didn't want to sleep out side.
When she came to the campout in the evening, she found a bunch of ponies already set up in front of her. If the Flim Flam brothers hadn't showed up, she'd have started camping out again at noon.
Or ask Applejack to keep a mug reserved for her.
An orchard owner giving special treatment to the weather team manager? No way that could have any nasty effects on both of their reputations. Especially not from the hundreds of other ponies who have to wait in line for hours without getting a drop.
If she REALLY wanted a mug of cider, she shouldn't have wasted time waking Fluttershy up, or should have used the Sonic Rainboom. Even if she wasn't first in line, a Mach 10 shockwave doesn't leave much evidence...
Well, she is one of the weather ponies for Ponyville. So maybe she had to work the next morning to make sure there were no clouds for the lines of people who would be waiting in line.
The brothers seem to think there's not more to an apple orchard than harvesting and selling. They would have come back and begged the Apple family to take care of Sweet Apple Acres eventually.
Considering their characters, they'd probably be more likely to ditch the farm when they used up all the crop and move onto the next town.
If the Flim Flam Brothers are, as described in their song, "world famous", what are they world famous for if their reputation as con artists does not precede them?
Given the rural nature of Ponyville and all, they may be playing on the fact that its citizens wouldn't have any way to confirm if the brothers were world-famous and all, to boast more about themselves.
Perhaps it's a spin on the truth. They're world-famous, but what they really mean is that they're known widely for being slimey businessmen.
People seem to be labelling the Flim Flam Bros, and they seem to be portrayed, as con artists. But watch the episode again - what makes them con artists? They never cheated during the competition. They never sabotaged the Apple family's efforts. When offering the business partnership, they never tried to intimidate or strongarm the Apples - when their offer was declined, they simply decided to take them on as business competitors. They played everything fairly and by the rules, both during the actual competition and otherwise. And as far as the "selling an inferior product" style of con artistry goes, they only started doing that when the pressure of the competition forced them to forego quality control in order to make up numbers - before then, there was no indication that their cider was any worse than the Apples', or even that it was bad at all. So what exactly is it that makes Flim and Flam con artists?
This is a fan thing rather than an in-universe thing: they're never referred to as such in the actual episode.
They're more accurately slimy businessmen, given that they tried to foist a crappy deal on the Apples, tried to run a longstanding family business out of town, and they were willing to let quality control slip to meet the demand of the contest (something the Apples refused to do). But between their song parody of The Music Man (which depicts a pair of con men) and the fact that very few people noticed Granny Smith drinking (let alone liking) their cider making people think the even the quality stuff was crap, and the fact that "con artist" roll off the tongue easier, I think the term was originally misused and it more or less stuck.
If anything, they suit the "artist" part of "con artist" to a tee - they've got their act down pat, know exactly how to work the crowd, and the like. One can argue that they knew watch strings to pull to make the Apples agree to the contest as well. The only difference is that, before abandoning quality control, they actually had a product to sell as opposed to snake oil as most cons do.
Well, they razzle dazzled the crowd. Their names are Flim-Flam, and they wanted 75% of the Apple Orchard profits with the Apples doing 99% of the work and the brothers only doing the magic for the machine. There's a certain amount of con involved in turning an entire town's positive feeling for their beloved farmers into negative.
Unless they invented, built or financed their machine themselves. If they did that then they'll have done a fair share of the work, just as upfront investment rather than continuing labor. It would still be a really unfair deal but because the profit spit is unfair not the division of labor.
Interesting: perhaps they didn't invent, build or finance the machine at all. Maybe they won it in a game of cards (by cheating, of course).
They don't have to lie or cheat to be con artists: many of the most effective cons involve telling the exact truth, but simply preying on the pride or greed of the mark. That's what happens here (and it's coincidentally why Applejack, who's learned to swallow her pride before, is obviously unhappy about Granny Smith jumping on the bet). They're con artists because they tricked the Apple Family into a deal where the Flim Flam Brothers couldn't lose and the Apples had to give them something. In fact, the con is very elegantly tuned toward such a thing. Even if the Brothers had lost at normal speed, they'd have still have made a boatload of cider from free apple stock, all tucked away in a high-speed vehicle. And it's not like the Ponyville sales market was important to them, as you can see from how fast they leave. The only reason they lost in this particular case is their confidence and greed got ahead of them: they underestimated the townsponies' like of the Apple Clan (and presumably of the Apple Clan's influence outside of Ponyville), and when they thought they were only going to lose by a little, they weren't willing to let the Apples win.
This troper is on the fence about it. They didn't do anything dishonest throughout the whole episode, and there comeuppance comes from making a very understandable mistake (panicking under pressure and deciding to get the job done as quickly as possible). For me, they stop being sympathetic when they express a haughty attitude about the whole thing, and while I certainly don't consider them villains or even really that bad from what were shown of them, the fact is their hearts just weren't in the right place, and they let their egos get the better of them.
There is one bit of dishonesty in it, the Flim Flam Brothers can only make Cider faster than the Apple Family, since they don't have their own apple supply, in the end, they can't make more, even if that's what they seem to promise.
Why does Rainbow Dash tear up the last time the cider runs out on her? The barrel is empty, but the next shot shows it wasn't the last barrel.
I didn't notice until just now. Maybe she didn't either and just assumed that the world was about to screw her over once again?
At the end of the contest, Twilight collapses sweating and panting into the dirt next to Applejack (Get your mind out of the gutter). But....why? For the duration of the contest, she pulled a "You work, I'll supervise" and spent the whole forty-five minutes watching the barrels and keeping track of ratios. What, exactly, got her so exhausted? Did she forget to warm up her eye muscles?
She was moving the barrels.
She was doing that too, yes, but she didn't seem to be paying them much attention. Or any attention at all, actually. She had to dig her hooves into the dirt and grit her teeth to lift the water tower in Boast Busters, but here she just puts on a "whatever" face and absorbs herself in her checklist.
She had been holding her breath in the last tense minute of the competition. Stress could account for any sweat.
The brothers didn't pay the Apple Family for the apples they used and the trees they destroyed with their machine, escaping after committing property damage. They could have been arrested.
This is just a quip but Applejack says they won't stoop to cheating in order to win but says this in response to Rainbow Dash wanting to cut out the QC process. I wouldn't call lowering the quality of your product 'cheating', exactly. Maybe it's cheating yourself and your standards but it doesn't really have any bearing on the rules of the contest. Just seemed like the wrong thing to say or imply to me.
It's cheating because the implied terms of the contest were to make as much of your cider as you can; ditching the quality means it's not the cider they promised to make. The brothers' breaking that implied rule is one of the things that turns Ponyville against them, whether the citizens realized that's what the brothers had done or not.
Why hasn't Pinkie Pie heard the word "nonpareil" before? Since she works in a bakery, she should know that nonpareils are a type of cake decoration. Possible explanations:
She's only ever heard the cake decoration called "sprinkles" rather than "nonpareils".
She's only ever heard of nonpareils as a cake decoration, and was confused by the Flim-Flam Brothers using it with the original meaning of "unparalleled". However, if this was the case, she would have been more likely to make a Sidetracked by the Analogy joke about it.
Who's to say she hasn't? She's enough of a cloudcuckoolander that even if she'd heard the word used a time or two before (and I agree that even pony bakers might well be content to call them "sprinkles" unless they want to be really technical about it and/or sound fancy), it could have simply slipped her mind.
Read It and Weep
How is it that Twilight, the most organized pony in Ponyville has all the Daring Do books, and the copy she loans Rainbow Dash is the third book on her shelf devoted to Daring Do? It seems odd that that somepony as OCD as Twilight wouldn't want to start her friend on the first book in the series. Perhaps two prequels were written and "Sapphire Stone" is the first published book in the series.
Or the entire bookcase is devoted to adventure stories and the first two books on the shelf are by a different author.
Or "Sapphire Stone" is the third in the series, but the first two aren't on the hospital's library cart.
Twilight says that it's the first book of the series.
Or the other two books are prequels and Twilight had them in the order that they happened.
The real reason, of course, is that it's more compositionally interesting to have the book be sandwiched between others than be at the very end when Twilight pulls it out.
We've seen Spike as being the one who reorganizes the shelves... maybe he got lazy?
They are awful, awful prequels, on the level of Star Wars or even (shudder) Dune. Twilight wants to spare Rainbow the horror.
Perhaps she chose the book where Daring Do had a wing injury, specifically to help Rainbow Dash identify with the character.
Again, Twilight tells Rainbow that "this is the first story in the series."
Maybe the library has multiple copies of the book.
This. It's quite common for a library to have more than one copy of a popular book.
There is actually real-world precedent for this in the Chronicles of Narnia series. While the book Lion Witch And The Wardrobe was the first one written, and The Magician's Nephew was the second-to-last book written in the series, many collections of the books will put The Magician's Nephew first in the series, because it deals with the founding of Narnia, and the origins of the wardrobe in Wardrobe, as well as other characters and events in the series. So depending on which collection you have, Wardrobe, could be the first released, but second in the order.
"With the Sapphire Statue secured, the world was safe once again." Uh, from what? The book never mentioned any danger about Ahuizotl having the statue. Does it have some sort of mystical power that we're never told about? Judging by the title of the next book, it looks like we'll never find out.
Apparently, Dash read the entire book up to the last chapter in one setting, it's very likely we didn't see the entire book because there wasn't time.
Or she started in halfway intending to half-ass a read, since she seemed confused as to where Ahuizotl came from initially.
My theory is that those two books before are prequels, but they were filled with spoilers for the later books and would have spoiled future stories for Rainbow Dash. That or the first two books didn't have much in them that would be interesting to Rainbow, so Twilight picked a more action-filled one.
The impression I got is that the Statue is irrelevant. Ahuizotl says "With Daring Do out of the way, the world will suffer mightily at my hands." It's the fact that he thinks he's gotten rid of Daring Do that he is celebrating, not the fact that he has the Statue. The narration: "...with Ahuizotl defeated, and the Sapphire Statue secured..." also implies that his defeat is what has made the world safe. If the Statue was the more prominent concern, it should have been mentioned first.
Which all leads to one conclusion: Hasbro needs to hire people to actually write the books and settle these debates.
Why would a mental patient pony be in the same hospital as ponies with injuries?
It's a small town hospital, they might not have a separate mental institution. Besides they can have different wards.
Also, do hospitals usually employ security guards? Then again, seeing how they seem to have a mental ward which is, as seen above, Fridge Logic in its own right...
As at least one episode from any medical drama will teach you there is stuff worth stealing in a hospital, add the rather public nature of any hospital building, the possibility of children about and the need for security guards arises.
This Brony works as a security guard and I can assure you that we do have officers who work at the hospitals.
Doesn't Pinkie Pie live at Sugarcube Corner? The house she was sleeping in during Dash's chase scene doesn't look anything like it. Does that mean this episode takes place shortly after Spike's rampage?
It's never stated where she lives before, and it's more been said she WORKS for the Cakes and they see her like a daughter. Otherwise why would they ask her to be a permanent babysitter in Baby Cakes if she was living with them?
Party of One explicitly shows she lives above Sugarcube Corners. The Cakes don't want her to be their permanent babysitter because they don't trust her, which is what the friendship report in Baby Cakes was about.
Word Of God says that Pinkie does live at Sugarcube Corner, so either A) she's staying with a random pony (Derpy, maybe?) while her home gets rebuilt, B) She moved out so the Cakes could use her old room for the foals, or C) The animators forgot or for whatever reason couldn't fit the Sugarcube Corner model into the scene.
She may have been at a sleepover or late night party there, as well.
The whole "looks like a giant dessert" thing Sugar Cube Corner has could be a facade, or a "False Front." Such a technique was commonly used in more olden times to make a store look bigger and more impressive. It's still used today, but to a much lesser degree. It's easy to see this used when watching a western, and the stores and buildings have those large fronts, but small backsides.
A bedridden pony wouldn't be able to easily take a bath if their coat got dirty (for example, from a mishap with the hospital food), so the hospital gowns are a cheap and easily-replaced cover to block dirt and such.
All for the sake of Rarity's line about the gowns matching the curtains.
Why did Rainbow Dash have to stay in the hospital to begin with? I mean, she had to go there to have her wing dressed, but if all she needed after that was bed rest, couldn't she do that at home?
She lives in the clouds. Transportation would likely be difficult.
Then couldn't she have gone to a friend's house?
If she stays at the hospital, she's more likely to receive better care, and they may want to keep her there for further observation.
She seems to spend her entire stay lying/sitting on her back. Wouldn't walking around with her four intact limbs be better than putting weight on the broken wing?
I agree here. Are pegasi wings sensitive to the point where there would be increased pain when a pony walks? Her legs are all fine, so I can't see why they can't just put medication on it inside a cast and let her walk freely.
She seemed pretty beat up in other respects too. Might have been some sprains and bruises that needed to heal up.
But then again, sprains and bruises can easily heal at home. And again, this troper just asked his mother about that part. Normally when you have broken something, you would spend the rest at home, because it would cost too much money. But then again, perhaps Equestria has a good health care system.
This Troper figured that they didn't want to give Dash the temptation of flying and messing up the healing of her wing. With such a stubborn mare, it's probably better to keep a closer eye on her than other injured ponies.
How could Rainbow Dash 'never lose' in what is basically Battleship? You can only strategize so much in that game, and luck of the draw would dictate she would lose a game eventually.
Not giving away hints as to the locations of your ships and being able to see them in others would also accounts. Rainbow has show several times to be able to pick up on traits in the others, something that would certainly help in such a game. That and she might just be very lucky at it.
Either that, or she cheats.
Given that Fluttershy's entire reason for bringing the game was that she knows how much Rainbow Dash likes to win, maybe her friends always throw the game for her sake.
Or, she's surprised at how easily Rainbow Dash hates to lose, and knows that under normal circumstances, she would be far more aggressive and demand a rematch.
Rainbow frets that enjoying reading makes her an 'egghead' — but she was reading a light-hearted adventure story, nothing that requires serious scholarship. Is the point of the story "Reading is for everyone, but the cool kids stick to fun stuff that isn't too far from what they already know and like"?
Which is more likely, trying to convince someone who doesn't read to read the works of Shakespeare, or convincing them that reading can actually be fun by convincing them to read an easy to read adventure story? The point is more likely "The right book for the right person."
Besides, who is to say that Dash can't one day consider more challenging literature? At least she is reading now and that's a start.
Rainbow's problem was that she thought any kind of reading was for eggheads. She probably still thinks the kinds of books Twilight reads are for eggheads. But at least she can enjoy the kinds of books that appeal to her.
My theory out here is this; I think that Rainbow Dash is Dyslectic. Given the reason why she reads her stories out loud. I think that she had tried to read when she was in school, back in Cloudsdale, but she didn't catch on. Fast forward to the date of the episode, she had enough of reading, plus the terrors of the bullying that endured still ring in her mind.
Jossed. Rainbow is capable of reading without having to speak it aloud, as shown in *A Friend In Need* when she's at the library, and again in *Wonderbolts Academy* when she reads a letter sent to her without uttering a word.
Rainbow is released from the hospital with the strict warning that she shouldn't use her wing for a week thereafter. In fact, she accidentally uses it during the break-in, complete with a sickening "snap" noise. And yet, the next morning, she's shown in her house - which is in the clouds, implying it was well enough to let her fly up there? If anything, that snap would imply it'd be worse than it was before.
She borrowed one of Pinkie's flying machines, or got a lift else-wise.
Emergency Pegasus Ladder.
It's logical to assume that there is some standard way to let earthbound ponies access a flying pegasus city if they have some business in there. One can surmise Rainbow Dash simply used that method, whatever that was.
The twinkle balloon, maybe? It's what they used to get to Cloudsdale earlier.
This might just be one of mine, but I would have thought that Rainbow would have been more worried about Twilight being smug about her coming back and admitting "well, yeah, reading is okay," as opposed being terrified by the very idea of liking it. Seems more in character for the both of them, but maybe I'm just reading in-between lines that aren't there.
No, that's pretty much on the mark, and the first interpretation I made of events. After all, her immediate response to the egghead realisation wasn't to try to surpress her urge to read (presumably through jock-ish activities and saying "not an egghead" over and over); it was a harebrained attempt to regain the book so she could read it without having to go to Twilight.
Why do all the hospital nurses have the same Cutie Mark?
Because all their special talent is nursing.
So the patient in the hospital thought Rainbow Dash wanted to steal his slippers. But why would any pony have slippers in the first place? They are never shown wearing shoes, except as accessories. How would they even put a slipper on a hoof?
The slippers are standard, in case there's a wound in their hoof that gets exacerbated. You'd put them on the same way you would the standard type of slipper (like these ones◊), by sliding one's hoof into it.
Yeah, "sliding one's hoof into it" is where I see the problem. Hoof's anatomy makes it impossible for human-style slippers not to immediately fall off. They'd need to be strapped to the leg, or otherwise clasping tightly around the hoof, kinda defeating the whole idea of a slipper.
Maybe they were slippers for dragons or gryphons or some other species with actual feet. He's keeping them at his side because he's very paranoid that someone will steal his rare heirloom slippers while he's at the hospital.
Hearts and Hooves Day
So a holiday centered around love a romance is a celebration of a prince effectively tricking a princess into loving him and the chaos that ensued because of the over-effectiveness of the potion.
Oddly appropriate, in a way. Check Fridge Brilliance for the origin of St. Valentine's day.
Not to mention that almost every other holiday seems to celebrate a time the world was almost destroyed. Seems like "We're still alive!" is a great reason to throw a party, and if its a good one throw it again next year!
For that matter, the fact that love potion recipes are readily available to the public, despite the large amount of damage one such potion caused in the above spoilered event.
They probably expect people to read the whole story and included the recipe so that people know what to avoid doing by experimentation.
also, socially speaking, if something is readily available then it's generally either far less harmful than imagined or far more easily counteracted. By this point in their history they probably have thousands of love potions (of varying effectiveness) and thousands of kitchen-sink cures.
Plus, the damage caused in the past was probably just a little bit overstated for dramatic effect. Not that having the country's leaders out of commission even for a few days or weeks wouldn't cause a lot of havoc... but again, the CMC are little kids, freaking out about how they did something wrong, and dramatically over-exaggerating the consequences themselves. For the show's adult ponies, keeping the two victims separated for an hour would have been a lot simpler.
And Twilight was excited about the story from a purely academic standpoint because she's an academic. It probably never even entered her head that the CM3 would try to actually make the love potion, let alone without reading the whole story to find out the outcome of using it.
Let's also remember that the three components of the Love Poison (rainbow, cloud, and pegasus feather) are a combination that could easily come together by accident (think the Cloudsdale weather factory). It's probably more beneficial to make it widely known that the combination is potentially dangerous than it is to try to suppress the information.
Between that and Twilight's "Want It Need It" spell, it seems that Love and Tolerance plus Up to Eleven equals Potent Weapons for the Disruption of Harmony.
It's not really liquid rainbow, it's just the rainbow's glow. Perhaps what makes it spicy is...whatever that greyscale stuff left over is.
Why would the prince need to consume the love potion if he was already in love with the princess in the first place? Judging by the content of the book, he was clearly under the influence of the same love poison that he gave to the princess and too distracted to take care of his kingdom. All he needed to do was give the love potion to just her.
Maybe that's the only way it can be used? Or he wanted to be as devoted to her as she was to him?
Well the lesson would be lost if the kingdom didn't fall to ruin, not to mention the Unfortunate Implications of the royal relationship itself if only the princess was fed the drug. The Cutie Mark Crusaders reading something like that...
A Friend in Deed
Pinkie claims that Cranky Doodle Donkey is the first person to refuse her friendship. Apparently, she forgot about Nightmare Moon, Gilda, Discord, the Flim Flam Brothers, etc...
She probably means out of ponies that she wanted to be friends with; bullying her friends, driving the local branch of the Apple family out of business or trying to take over the world probably get you disqualified from her friend list (and Gilda turned out not to be worth the effort anyway).
Alternatively, she's referring to residents of Ponyville (Cranky was settling in), while passers-through and non-Ponyvillians are left out of the calculation (I would imagine the Canterlot elite hate her for her involvement in destroying at least two major social events).
Why didn't Cranky look for a note? For that matter, why did Matilda leave a note instead of telling him in person?
Daisy Jo, the cow, mentions drinking milk. Is it her own milk? Coconut milk? Is she trading excess milk with Mrs Cake? She just foaled and plenty of Real Life cultures swear by mares' milk.
Putting Your Hoof Down
In "Putting your hoof down", New!Fluttershy gives a very unsettling "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Pinkie Pie and Rarity, saying that both of them were wasting their lives of pointless pursuits that nopony cares about. Their pursuits, parties and fashion naturally, are the things that got them their cutie marks. And as we all know; a ponies' mark determines what they're secret talent and passion that they'll do for the rest of their lives. How could they be wasting their lives on pursuits that they were destined to do/be anyway?
You're assuming 'Shy was acting logically, instead of just tearing a strip off them because of the rush from being assertive. And remember, Rarity's a seamstress and Pinkie Pie's a baker. Twilight is a librarian. Their jobs are related to their cutie marks, but don't revolve around them. There's no reason anypony has to accept their CM.
PYHD has yet another; The Stare. Nice of it to appear as a call-back to "Stare Master" at the end of the episode, but really the question is, why did Fluttershy not use it in the first place!? Yeah, yeah Forgot I Could Fly and all of that, but it was used in another situation where Angel was being a picky eater. I know she even says that she doesn't have control over it, but in situations where it's most appropriate she's used it without hesitation. Instead she decided to give into her picky hare's demand, and in turn she got kicked out of her own cottage as a result. What the hay?
It isn't just that she can't use the Stare, it's that she doesn't like to use it. If her friends are in danger, or if it's for the good of her own animals, then she has no trouble doing everything in her power to help, but if it only impacts her, then Fluttershy prefers to dance around issues that the Stare could solve, rather than actually work through them. By the time she actually had the willpower to use it, she didn't need to-nopony would put up with her by then. Long story short, not using the Stare was part of the problem, not a potential solution.
Plus the previous times we've see The Stare in action, it's in situations where she ponies up. It seems like an unconscious side-effect of her making a stand. Deliberately using a lite version of the Stare on Angel in the final scene could be taken as an indication the assertiveness training stuck, even if the jerky side-effects was removed..
All the previous uses of the Stare have been on creatures of less intelligence than ponies (chickens, cocktrice, and Angel). The dragon is a bit more of a question, but given that the dragon's intelligent enough to talk - but otherwise acting as a wild creature - the Stare had to be enunciated with vocal threats as well. What this all means: it may not be possible for the Stare to work on fully intelligent creatures like ponies.
I don't think that was so much her using The Stare at the end of the episode and more her showing Angel she wasn't going to give in so easily this time around.
At the beginning of "Stare Master" Fluttershy tells Rarity that she can't really control the Stare; it just happens sometimes. The fact that she is able to use it at will at the end of this episode shows that she has gained (at least some) control over it, probably due to being more willing to stand up to a challenge.
Another point about the business with Angel and Fluttershy: She makes him a salad without the cherry on top. He kicks her out of her own goddamn home. Domestic Abuse, much? I honestly don't know if playing it for laughs makes it better or worse...
Yet another option is that the events of the episode gave her The Stare. This episode could have happened before Twilight came to Ponyville. Because of the training, Fluttershy gained The Stare. So that was the first time it has ever been used. Fluttershy's frendship report was written months after the events as a response to Celestia letting anypony write the reports.
Uh, Fluttershy, why didn't you just fly over those ponies with the carts instead of plowing into them? Fridge Brilliance: Flying over them would be the same as walking around them. She wanted to be assertive and make them move out of the way, not take the easy option.
How did she board her house up from the outside? She could board the last door up from the inside or "think inside the chimney" to get back in or tell Angel to do it.
I don't think that was time travel with Discord. Rather he took Twilight in an out-of-body experience in her memory, or that it was a Discord recreation. OTOH, those may be just rationalizations to dismiss what Discord did.
If you've got an assistant, then shouldn't he be the one to manage your schedule? Panicking over the fact you haven't planned your next month's itinerary should fall to Spike, not Twilight herself.
Spike is only a baby dragon, though, and Twilight is probably the type to constantly make several changes or add things to the schedule, so maybe he can't keep up with it? After all, Twilight's workload is part of the reason she has Owloysius as well.
Spike, if told to organize a schedule, would likely do it the way normal people do: listing out tasks that have to be done sometime during that day. Twilight wanted that schedule down to the minute, something Spike would likely eschew and Twilight basically has been doing for herself since.
Twilight spends all night scouring books for a lead on dragons, yet she doesn't send a letter to Princess Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns and ask them where they got Spike's egg from?
Most likely she was tired from spending all night looking and then going through the whole Spike finding himself that she hadn't thought of that.
Celestia does send a letter addressed to Spike, but we never get to hear what it says. Maybe it was about where his egg came from?
It's also possible that Twilight just didn't want to send a letter in the middle of the night, and was waiting for the moment, but Spike decides to set out as soon as morning comes. It's odd that she didn't at least mention it, though.
Why is it that being in correspondence with the leader of a powerful, sovereign nation, despite his immaturity and youth, not considered cool for the dragon teenagers? I understand that "She's a pony, and thus, uncool," but... Well, I'm not a Celestia fan, but she's still pretty important.
Do you really think juvenile delinquents would really care?
Yeah, they're trashy, rebellious teens. They're not going to respect Spike being an almost=literal teacher's pet to some frilly pony princess...thingy.
He himself honestly doesn't see the Princess as a big deal since he's grown up around her presence;the dragons on the other hand have grown up completely independent of her power, and therefor have no reason to respect her...the sun aside.
Does Celestia even have that power outside of Equestria?
Are you suggesting there is more than one sun?
Given that the sun has to be lifted by an outside force (Unicorns/Celestia), there is definitely something weird going on.
Why would the teen dragons care about the sun if they can survive wallowing around in Lava? Granted, something like eternal night would have screwed everypony over, but Dragons should be okay so long as they have gems and a heat source.
Dragonkind as a whole probably would care if something serious happened to the sun. Those three in particular, though? Not necessarily so much until they actually saw it happen — and they might simply be ignorant of exactly which namby-pamby pony princess (of however many there are exactly) is in charge of that job, to boot.
Why does Spike sweat? There is no environment on the planet that would make his body need to cool down...
"Teenage" dragons? As in, dragons between 13 and 19 years old? Sure, we don't know much about the draconic life cycle, but given their long lifespans, one might expect Garble and his gang to be a little older than that. It may have just been Translation Convention for a more nebulous term for "adolescent dragons", though.
Spike doesn't hang out with Dragons, so he's probably just using that term since they're equivalent to teenage ponies (Yeah, I know, Vague Age abounds but still). The Dragons probably have their own term for this stage in their development.
In "Dragon Quest", it's established that very little is known about dragons since they are too dangerous to study up close. If that's the case, then why would hatching a dragon's egg and subsequently raising him be part of Celelstia's entrance exam for her academy? Does this mean there are multiple companion dragons in Equestria for all of Celestia's students? And if THAT'S the case, wouldn't there be more information on dragons?
According to Word of Faust Princess Celestia didn't give the other foals that test. She suspected Twilight as an Element Bearer and substituted the regular entrance exam with the dragon egg test to confirm.
Also in "Dragon Quest" we get to see a phoenix nest with half a dozen of eggs. And since it is targeted by a dragon raid, thay must be pretty common. A phoenix is powerful enough to fend off all regular predators, it doesn't die of old age... why would they need a breeding rate of regular birds?
A group of juvenile delinquents don't count as regular predators. Also, there was no real indication that phoenixes are common. How many times have bird species been wiped out because of poaching?
In "Dragon Quest", why the he—ck were the teenage dragons making fun of Spike when he's obviously a very young dragon? That's like a group of high-schoolers mocking an eight-year old for not being able to keep up. It makes no sense! They must have known that he was decidedly not in their age group, and most teenage guys would be more likely to adopt "the kid" as their mascot than make him "prove" himself.
Not all teenagers are nice. Some, like the ones spike met, can be very rude, immature, and jerky. Spike was just unfortunate enough to meet them. And besides, considering the fact that the other adult dragons aren't even monitoring what they're kids are doing, they probably felt that they could have a little fun with poor Spike, and knew that they'd get away with it. The jerks...
For that matter, why didn't Spike just find some dragons his own age rather than trying to be like ones who were clearly older than him?
Spike is a teenage dragon. He's stayed small and wingless because of his environment, but he has the intelligence and yearnings of a teenager.
Spike went to the smallest dragons he could see, which were the teenage dragons. Baby dragons, like him, would most likely be with their parents. And dragons are known to be very protective of their stuff, so if any stranger, even another baby dragon, went up to their kid, they'd most likely try and chase him away.
Technically, Spike already reached adulthood and has voluntarily age regressed himself. He might actually be chronologically older, given how quickly dragons can grow. He's certainly more mature emotionally. Even if he's actually younger, dragons don't seem to give other dragons special treatment for youth or lack of size. The adult dragons in the migration made no move to help, and the green adult that Spike dealt with previously was fully willing to kill him.
Pheonixes are immortal. Could harming the eggs do any damage?
They might only reincarnate after dying of old age. Getting killed in other ways might just end them.
Why didn't Spitfire participate in creating the tornado? As a high speed champion, she surely would've been helpful in making it.
She's only there to oversee the tornado and record it's wind speed. The tornado itself was the job of the Ponyville pegasi.
That explains the first time, but when it was clear they weren't making the record, why not help when they were just doing it to prevent a drought?
With Rainbow Dash inspiring all the pegasi that they can do it, why jump in? They really wanted to prove that they can do it so she probably let them have that chance. If they really couldn't pull it off on their own, Spitfire would probably report it back to Cloudsdale and either join in and maybe call in some of the other Wonderbolts or get another town to do it.
Providing water from the various towns' reservoir seems like part of a social duty across Equestria to assure the weather system is maintained. As such, Spitfire here would be acting as a government employee — assuring the process is completed but unable to get involved.
Remember, this is a competition. With I Dye Grass being part of the natural cycle of things, they can make the tornado with any reservoir at any point, so there's no pressing need for the country as a whole to be worried. The only thing on the line is town pride, whether it's to make the record, or just get the task done. Failing that, they can go to any other place, or bring in extra pegasi, and they will only offset things by a day at most, and Equestria can survive not having their cloud production at maximum capacity for a day. But if they don't complete the task right then, and right there, then Ponyville will bear the stigma of not being up to the task, and that's why they couldn't have Spitfire join in, because her involvement would invalidate the town's actions, because it means they needed help. The existence of a time limit is for the competition only, not because Equestria is desperate. At most, Ponyville's failure would lead to a short work disruption as they bring in pegasi from other areas to fill in the gap.
How would 8 pegasi missing lead to a drop of over 200 wingpower?
It could be that some of the remaining pegasi were weakened, though not sick enough to drop out completely.
It could also be that Dash was overconfident in her excitement and came up with a high estimate.
Or, there's some multiplication of wingpower from all the pegasi joining in rather than just straight-up addition of each individual's wingpower.
The wingpower readings are done while sprinting a short distance, creating the tornado relies just as much on endurance. Rainbow Dash in her eagerness to set a new record probably didn't think about this and simply added the readings together. When Twilight did her calculations she would take endurance into consideration and came to a lower number than Rainbow, but decided not to tell her (maybe they'd have enough to have a stab at the record and she wouldn't want to risk rattling her confidence). When the 8 pegasi have to drop out, Twilight suddenly realizes they'll not have enough power to get the job done and fills Rainbow in on the bad news.
Actually, the jump from 10 wingpower to 25 is pretty easy to figure out once you look at Fluttershy's numbers. To hit the minimum to work, Fluttershy's wingpower would have to increase by 218%. This can actually be explained through a perpetual slipstream, in which the leader of the group is in the slipstream of the last person in the line. Without the air resistance, the group can go faster, netting a potential increase by 2.5 wingpower. This would also mean that there are approximately 40 eligible pegasi living in Ponyville.
Given Rainbow Dash's own problems with performance anxiety in the past one would think she would have been better able to give be of more use when it came to training Fluttershy not to worry about crowds…
Except that Rainbow got over her performance anxiety only when an emergency situation came up. Which Fluttershy has proven capable of doing already. There's not much advice she can give to Fluttershy since in this respect they are ironically similar.
Fair enough, but it would have been a nice call back if Rainbow had at least brought up the fact that she knew what Fluttershy was going through having experienced it herself.
While it would be a nice Call Back, Rainbow Dash isn't really the type of pony who could openly admit her own weaknesses, like suffering from performance anxiety.
Aside from the obviousreasons, why would Fluttershy try to avoid having to go to a meeting in the library by hiding in a tree right outside the library?
Maybe she decided to go, then changed her mind while she was near meeting place, didn't want to be seen fleeing, so she hid in the closest tree she could find.
She'd at least be within earshot and know why Rainbow called the meeting. What if it was a meeting to help all the birds in area?
Why doesn't Rainbow Dash give it HER all? This is well after she figured out that she can do the Sonic Rainboom on demand-even accelerating up to face-bending speed but not allowing the shockwave to occur would have added massive amounts of power. Indeed, during the tornado generation, she's not even generating her trademark contrail.
Her contrail would probably be invisible among the others in the funnel, and she does have a supervisory job, as shown when she breaks off to check the water's funnelling through. The boom is really at the very limit of her ability: even without it, she packs more wingpower than the others by a hefty margin. Not to mention it's not clear how much control Rainbow has over the boom at this point. Mistime it, and the whole twister gets blown apart either by an unplanned boom or by the recoil.
um, assuming by contrail you mean the rainbow that follows RD at high speed, I would imagine that it would be a distraction, and one they can't afford- it's heavily implied that Pegasi can get hurt doing this. RD was probably deliberately not leaving a contrail. Also, note how close they got- they were, IIRC, about 10 wing power short before Fluttershy finally joined in. For all we know, RD was giving her all.
Also, generating the tornado requires performing a constant banking turn, in tight formation with other pegasi who are not as good flyers. High speed in open air and plenty of straightaway is one thing. High speed formation flying with a crowded sky full of rookies is something else entirely.
How the bloody hell did the Cutie Mark Crusaders - or at least Featherweight - manage to get a story on Princess Celestia?!
"Document everything." Not just "everything in Ponyville"; "everything". (Who knows, maybe his talent is to be wherever the wind blows or something.)
Celestia tends to eat out in very non-royal places—including Ponyville. She had a tea party at the Sugarcube Corner in "A Bird in the Hoof", there's no reason to assume she doesn't visit the town every so often to unwind.
They had an interview with Spike, who does know Celestia quite well.
Building nests is part of the Winter Wrap-Up chores - yet we have birds who only need a bit of help to do the same in "Ponyville Confidential". Wat.
In the latter episode, they aren't helping to build the nest, but to repair and reinforce an older one.
The Ponies' nest-building in "Winter Wrap-Up" doesn't mean the birds can't make their own Nests. It's likely due to the Ponies thinking that the birds, after a long migration, deserve to have a place to sleep upon arrival rather then having extra work making a nest afterwards.
MMMystery on the Friendship Express
Why would Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, and Rarity eat the cake? It would at least make some sense if the elements of Laughter, Magic, and Honesty decided to eat the cake (though AJ would have confessed). But the elements of Kindness, Generosity, and Loyalty would never do that! It wasn't kind for Fluttershy to eat the cake without asking first. It wouldn't be generous to the Cakes and Pinkie Pie to eat their cake and disqualify them from the competition. It's not loyal to Pinkie Pie if you eat their cake and disqualify them. Why would they do this?
Because those are their redeeming qualities, not their only ones. If they always acted in accordance with their Element, we wouldn't have much conflict and there wouldn't be much of a show.
Eh, I've kinda agreed with that Friendship is Witchcraft joke, at least the part about Applejack being more deserving of the Element of Loyalty than Rainbow Dash is.
I don't have much of a sense for Rarity's motivation, but... Rainbow Dash doesn't have a lot of impulse control. And perhaps, after being denied cider year after year, she's developed a habit of snagging whatever sweet thing she feels like. As for Fluttershy, she strikes me as quite impressionable - hearing the cake talked up like that, and then hearing that somepony else was getting some of it (or at least attempting to), may well have induced her to a little nibble. Which then turned into considerably more, of course.
Plenty of previous episodes have shown Rarity having trouble keeping her greed and other vices in check. That was just another occasion where she failed.
I agree, Rarity has been shown a few times that while she's the Element of Generosity, she has slips ups and sometimes her greed gets the better of her, like in Dragon Quest. Discord even used this to his advantage. As for Rainbow Dash, that cake was being guarded by Pinkie Pie and quite a bit deal was made of it...maybe (along with her impulsiveness, as mentioned above), she just couldn't resist the challenge of getting a bite of the super-important cake. As for Fluttershy, she is the Element of Kindness, but there are plenty of times when she's either Innocently Insensitive or is straight-up insensitive, like in "Suited For Success."
Rule of Funny aside, wouldn't it been better for the girls and Big Mac's back if they use a carriage to take the cake to the train station?
It was explicitly said in that episode that Twilight didn't teleport on purpose. When she teleported in Dragon Quest, she teleported herself, Spike, Rarity, and Rainbow Dash and nopony got scorched. As long as she'd INTENDED to teleport the cake, it should have been fine.
This Troper imagines that teleportation over such a large distance would be very difficult, probably impossible due to the mass of the cake, how unstable it seemed to be, the distance it would have to travel, and not being able to see or visualize where she's going. And if she doesn't know where exactly the dessert judging is taking place, she'll have to teleport everypony who needs to help move it, as well.
Isn't Canterlot only a few hours walk from Ponyville? How would a train ride take all night?
The bakers seemed to be the only passengers on the train. If it was being chartered specifically for contest entries it may have been traveling slower than usual to avoid jostling and turbulence.
Ponyville to Canterlot is a short trip by Pegasus carriage, not by train or by hoof. In Hearth's Warming Eve, we don't know when the trip started, so that doesn't say anything. In It's About Time, they left while the sun was still up, and arrived maybe an hour before dawn. If the Mane Six left late afternoon and arrived early morning, that would be consist with the only other time shown.
My calculations were based on the episode The Best Night Ever, where they left by hoof in the day and arrived by evening.
Also, remember the two-parter The Return of Harmony, in which the mane six simply walk to Canterlot and back in a matter of minutes.
This was during Discord's reign, only Faust knows what he did to the space-time continuum.
Maybe in an emergency situation Twilight can teleport all of them between Ponyville and Canterlot, but she doesn't do it at other times because transporting that many ponies over such a distance is tiring?
Canterlot is also sticking out of a mountain. The Friendship Express probably has to spiral around quite a few times to make it up there, and seeing how it's a coal-driven steam locomotive and probably doesn't have modern braking technology, it's not going up there very fast.
In Hearts And Hooves Day, Big Macintosh was pulling an entire house without breaking a sweat, and now he’s almost collapsing under the weight of a cake. Just how heavy is that cake?
I think you'll find it's a lot harder to carry something heavy that's putting a great deal of pressure on your spine than it is to drag something heavy along. It's like some people being strong enough to pull a loaded car with a rope, but they wouldn't be able to carry even half that weight on their backs.
Still, it’s a frikkin’ cake, and the house didn’t even have wheels. Also, this raises further questions: Why didn’t they simply put the cake on a trolley?
Have you ever tried lifting a cake that big by yourself? Cakes can weigh a ton, especially if they have multiple tiers and you have to make sure it doesn't topple over.
Aside from being a different type of movement, Big Mac wasn't just holding a cake, he was balancing it by himself. After getting Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy to help balance it, you can tell he's under significantly less strain, given that it doesn't seem either of them was really lending any muscle to the task.
I've kinda assumed that ponies had magical weight reduction abilities that can make their apparent strength go all over the place.
It could just be a very heavy cake.
The MMMM's main ingredient is a neutron star.
A tasty, tasty neutron star.
The time he pulled a house he was crazy with magically induced love. I don't think Cheerilee is normally able to punch through walls either, enhanced earth pony strength or not.
If Fluttershy was imitating the engineer operating the locomotive after taking a bite off the cake at night, where was the actual engineer?
Driving the train? Technically one person (the fireman) shovels the coal into the boiler and a second person operates the engine controls.
Taking a break. Fluttershy was nice enough to take over for him, after all.
A Canterlot Wedding, Parts 1 & 2
Where do non-unicorn mares and stallions wear their wedding rings?
Well, Pegasus ponies their wings, but the questions stand for Earth ponies...
Bigger rings. Happier mares.
Earth ponies could just put the ring on a necklace and wear it that way.
It's possible that they use something else to signify their married status; many human cultures have done the same thing. Unicorns use rings on their horns because it's easy to show them off.
Hearts and Hooves Day confirms that the grooms buy jewellery for the brides. Big Mac was taken to the jeweller's to find a diamond in preparation for the "wedding" he and Cheerilee were about to have.
Both Twilight's and Rarity's parents (or at least her mother) are unicorns, but they don't have visible wedding rings on their horns, as with Shining Armor and Princess Cadence. Are wedding rings a temporary formality in Equestrian weddings, are they just for royals, or have the other couples never been married?
Considering traditions such as Handfasting do exist in our world, it most likely is a temporary ritual for the duration of the ceremony. I would imagine sizing rings for a horn to say where they are full-time would be difficult to pull off... No clue on Earth Pony/Pegasus wedding rituals, though.
We know the Cakes are married. They're referred to explicitly as Mr. and Mrs. We've seen ponies wear necklaces. Maybe the wedding rings are necklaces. Or maybe they're tiny and braided into their manes in a way we can't see without looking very close.
We see Big Mac shopping for a diamond for Cheerilee in Hearts and Hooves Day. While this was more like an engagement present than a wedding one, it does suggest a few alternatives, since they were intended for an Earth Pony. We see a couple of oversized rings that look like they could be worn like bracelets, a necklace, and a couple that are harder to identify (brooch, maybe?). So perhaps any sort of nice jewelry will do.
My best guess is that most ponies just don't wear the rings all the time the way humans do. I can't imagine that a ring would stay on the horn if they ever lowered their head, and having a ring on your wing or a giant bracelet on your leg would probably be uncomfortable or annoying after a while, so most married couples just don't wear the rings 24/7. As specifically regards the Cakes, it's pretty standard practice to remove all jewelery when working with dough, and given that they run a bakery it makes sense that they wouldn't wear the rings all the time.
As later shown in Season 3's The Crystal Empire, neither Cadance or Shining Armor continue to wear the rings, making them more a formality of ceremony.
Twilight became convinced that the Cadence in the caves is real, when she did the little dance they used to do when Twilight was a filly. But the impostor knew the dance as well! Twilight showed it to her, when they first met, and was implying that it's very important to her. If the changeling queen wanted to pretend she's real Cadence now, the dance would be a perfect thing to do.
Except she'd have no reason to, and the mean "Cadence" wouldn't even think of it. She's powerful enough to defeat Twilight straight-up. As someone theorized above, she may have been trying to get Cadence killed by Twilight, which may well have happened if Cadence hadn't thought fast. Chrysalis knows the dance means something, but not precisely what, or how important. It could just be a minor injoke, AFASK.
The imposter saw Twilight's part of the dance. That doesn't mean that she knew the correct response.
Immediately after the dance Cadence said that Twilight was the filly she loved to foal-sit the most. The imposter knew that Twilight was Shining Armor's sister, but probably didn't know that the real Cadence was her foal-sitter or that she was the favorite.
If Canterlot didn't know who was making the threat against it, how did they know there was a threat in the first place? Did you see a large army of ambiguous origin in the distance? Did "Cadence" leak the matter for... some inexplicable reason? Did Princess Luna discover something during the nighttime hours? Did the Princesses just get a really bad feeling?
Making Shining Armor maintain the shield, and thus distracting him, was a key part of Chrysalis' plan. She probably made the 'threat' herself.
It appeared obvious to me that Chrysalis set off some alarms when she replaced Candace. Not enough to identify who or what exactly happened, but enough to know that there was an outside intrusion. That would qualify as a threat.
In "Return of Harmony" Pt.1 It's explicitly stated that only Celestia can release the lock on the door to the tower of Canterlot (where the elements are stored). Celestia seemed fully drained after her battle with Chrysalis, in no state to be doing anything with her magic, and she had to insert her horn in the door to unlock it anyway. What were the Mane 6 gonna do when they got there, if they weren't captured by the changelings? It seems their plan was doomed from the start.
Yes, but Twilight Sparkle saw the spell Celestia cast to open the door last time. And part of Twilight's special talent is being able to copy other spells.
Another possibility: The spell is supposed to work as a "dead mare" switch. If Celestia ever loses the ability to use her magic, the spell deactivates. Because if that ever does happen, the Mane Six won't have time to wait for Celestia to regain her power to unlock the vault for them.
Perhaps she just doesn't keep the elements locked anymore. After all, the last time they needed the elements, they found out that lock doesn't work for anything- not only were they abducted from their chamber, but they wound up in Twilight's book. That's not very good security, really. Seeing as how this lock can be broken, maybe they just keep the elements there under guard. It's implied that even Celestia is surprised at the empty box where the elements were supposed to be. Having guards keep watch over them, on the other hand, would mean that she be absent in case the Mane Cast absolutely needed them (like in this episode, where she's beaten down by the baddie). Also, if someone attempted to steal them again, even if the guards were defeated, at least they could tell her what took them and possibly where- that's already more warning and help than the group got when they went into the chamber last time.
Am I the only one who found it INCREDIBLY ironic that the Changeling Queen underestimated the power of Cadence and Shining Armor's love? Because the love between those two is the whole reason she was able to take down Celestia and the shield that was protecting ponyville from AN ENTIRE ARMY. I mean, I guess I can understand if she didn't believe that the two can't use it the way she can, since THEY aren't changelings, but I gotta say, if the irony of that were and odor, we'd be able to smell it from Mars... XP
My fault. I'll be more careful with my pronouns next time <:-)
Consider that the Queen sees love as a food source for her minions, while the ponies see it as a type of power. Thus, seeing the love between Shining Armor and Princess Cadance only gave her something to salivate over and not to believe it as a threat (as she has no evidence to this before).
I really think that the Queen should have sent Twilight somewhere else entirely. The caves may have been forgotten, but they're still RIGHT UNDER THE CASTLE. Not to mention the Queen saw for herself that Twilight can break the crystals with her lasers. And the real Cadence (i.e. Twilight's only way to prove that there's something wrong with this wedding at all) is there. And really? Hypnotizing the original bridesmaids so that they would be lured off by a BOUQUET OF FLOWERS?? >__>. If she had sent Twilight anywhere else, I think she would have succeeded. Or, maybe she might'nt needed to send Twilight anywhere at all. Twilight WAS getting rather remorseful about her behavior, and even if she wasn't, she would have just gotten into more trouble if she kept trying to bust the queen without the real Cadence there, doncha think?
Oh, this one's easy.
Queen Chrysalis did not know Twilight Sparkle well enough to know better. The show established that right up front in their initial interactions. If she had, she would've just murdered Twilight and smuggled in another changeling to replace her if necessary.
She was trying to lure Twilight into attacking and/or killing the real Cadance in her blind rage. As pointed out, Cadance was Twilight's key to escaping and clearing her name. Chrysalis was willing to take the loss to secure her victory. The plan backfired because (See previous point).
The hypnosis spell Chrysalis used did not completely reprogram the bridesmaids. Apparently, Studio B did enough research on this subject to know that you cannot just rewrite someone's core personality through hypnosis. Given the proper stimuli, the subject's true personality can and will still override the hypnosis, no matter how much magic is involved. In that scene, the bridesmaids saw the bride throw a bouquet. That was enough to break their hypnosis long enough for them to remember the wedding tradition and dive after the bouquet on their own volition.
Well okay. I guess I can understand if she wanted to trick Twilight into beating down the real Cadence and about the hypnosis thing. But still. That was a big gamble she made there given the circumastances. She might not have known Twilight very well but I can imagine that Chrysalis knew Twilight knew Cadence somehow. What with the little dance Twilight did when they met. I'm just saying, sending Twilight somehwere else sounds like a much better plan.
Chrysalis was being groomed for a wedding set to occur in the next few hours. Canterlot was still under lockdown during a national security alert. Ponies had already noticed their peers had started to disappear without a trace after opposing "Princess Cadance" in some way. Chryssy didn't have anywhere else to send Twilight, and wasn't in any position to find a place without blowing her cover.
Also, the episode pretty heavily indicates that Queen Chrysalis is working on very limited intel, and really doesn't know a whole lot about Equestrian ponies in general. Power of Love, Power of Friendship, all that be damned. They're all just prey to her.
Most likely Chrysalis can't just send ponies to places she doesn't know herself, and the spell likely has a range limit as well. In other words, Twilight ended up next to Cadence simply because that was the one "safe" place Chrysalis knew where to leave her — neither simply dropping her off anywhere in Canterlot proper nor sending her beyond the city limits were options.
About the the final episode of the season. If I'm wrong, I apologize, but aren't bachelor parties supposed to come before the actual marriages? Because it's implied by Spike that they haven't actually gone through with it before the end of that episode. I mean, I know Spike didn't really know what a bachelor party was but shouldn't Celestia or someone explained it to him?
The marriage ceremony was officiated by Princess Celestia, who is not only the ruler of Equestria, but the closest thing to a (benevolent) deity in the series. So, was that a civil ceremony or a religious ceremony?
In a theocracy is there a difference? note Yeah, yeah. Technically a theocracy is rule by a priesthood, rather than the deity itself.
As stated, Celestia is both ruler of Equestria and its chief deity figure. That answers the question right off the bat; it's both.
That sounds like cheating. Pick one. And now I'm wondering if Celestia uses a religious exemption to avoid paying taxes on her income.note Her legal status has got to be all kinds of weird.
She's the head of the kingdom. Taxes are her income!
As noted earlier, theocracies tend to make state matters religious matters, and vice versa. Therefore, yes, 'both' is a valid answer. While the US Constitution is a fine example, it's hard to separate church and state when the head of government has an entry in the God Emperor article. And how often on Earth have we had a provable literal deity in charge? (Yes, provable.) And who said that religious exemptions exist in Equestria? Remember how she felt when Rarity kissed her hooves in gratitude: pony was squicked. Houses of worship might end up paying the special Stop Worshipping Me Tax.
Wait. Does this imply that in Equestria, the closest thing to churches are Celestia/Luna fanclubs?
What are churches in the real world but God Fanclubs?
Technically we don't know that ponies even have a religion; the topic has never come up on the show. They have a magical and long-lived princess with a hundred percent adoration rating, to be sure, but it's not clear that they literally consider her divine — Celestia raising and lowering the sun is impressive, yes, but then every pony has his or her own special talent and that may well simply be hers.
Where do non-unicorn mares and stallions wear their wedding rings?
Well, Pegasus ponies their wings, but the questions stand for Earth ponies...
Earth ponies could just put the ring on a necklace and wear it that way.
Both Twilight's and Rarity's parents (or at least her mother) are unicorns, but they don't have visible wedding rings on their horns, as with Shining Armor and Princess Cadance. Are wedding rings a temporary formality in Equestrian weddings, are they just for royals, or have the other couples never been married?
Considering traditions such as Handfasting do exist in our world, it most likely is a temporary ritual for the duration of the ceremony. I would imagine sizing rings for a horn to say where they are full-time would be difficult to pull off... No clue on Earth Pony/Pegasus wedding rituals, though.
We know the Cakes are married. They're referred to explicitly as Mr. and Mrs. We've seen ponies wear necklaces. Maybe the wedding rings are necklaces. Or maybe they're tiny and braided into their manes in a way we can't see without looking very close.
We see Big Mac shopping for a diamond for Cheerilee in Hearts and Hooves Day. While this was more like an engagement present than a wedding one, it does suggest a few alternatives, since they were intended for an Earth Pony. We see a couple of oversized rings that look like they could be worn like bracelets, a necklace, and a couple that are harder to identify (brooch, maybe?). So perhaps any sort of nice jewelry will do.
Twilight became convinced that the Cadance in the caves is real, when she did the little dance they used to do when Twilight was a filly. But the impostor knew the dance as well! Twilight showed it to her, when they first met, and was implying that it's very important to her. If the changeling queen wanted to pretend she's real Cadance now, the dance would be a perfect thing to do.
Except she'd have no reason to, and the mean "Cadance" wouldn't even think of it. She's powerful enough to defeat Twilight straight-up. As someone theorized above, she may have been trying to get Cadance killed by Twilight, which may well have happened if Cadance hadn't thought fast. Chrysalis knows the dance means something, but not precisely what, or how important. It could just be a minor injoke, AFASK.
Also, people rarely remember things well when they have only happened once, as opposed to when they happen frequently. And Chrysalis was blatantly confused at the time, so it's unlikely she'd remember the details as well as the real Cadance.
The problem is, that Twilight didn't know that Fake!Cadance was an imposter. She may suspected it, but for all she knew Cadance could've just changed through years, or just been brainwashed. So that mare she met in a cave could still be the same one who taunted her before. Or maybe imposter learned (torture, mindreading, brainwash, whaterver) this dance from real Cadanse after seen it from Twilight in order to decieve her too. I mean, that's what Twilight could have logically suspected. On the other hand this is just her mistake, not plothole. Plotwise Twilight was just Right for the Wrong Reasons as the mare she believed to be Cadance happened to be real Cadance. Lucky Twilight.
It probably wasn't just the dance- it's the way Cadence acts. Cadence was acting far more like you would expect for the real Cadence. The dance only meant that Twilight stopped trying to kill Cadence, she proved she was the real Cadence by how she acted.
How would Chrysalis, an outsider, know of a chamber inside/below the castle that Princess Celestia herself didn't know about? Then again, The Legend of Dragoon did something similar in Disc 2...
There's nothing to suggest Princess Celestia doesn't know about it. There's also no reason for her to mention the caves or enter them, so it doesn't come up.
It's mentioned that they're forgotten. And you're assuming Chrysalis is an outsider when she may have very well been there longer than Celestia.
The actual words Chrysalis uses are, "Most ponies have forgotten these caves even exist." That means Celestia probably does know about them.
Does anyone else think Chrysalis, powerful as she had become, was doomed from the start? After all, the silly not-a-pony forgot to account for Luna, whose first act once she found out they were being invaded would likely be to free her sister. Could Chrysalis have taken both alicorns at once?
The Queen's original plan was derailed when the real Cadance arrived. We don't get to see her original plan in its entirety, but she didn't want to face Celestia until after the wedding, at the earliest. Assuming that she had been able to pick and choose her confrontations, she could have abducted one sister, then taken her form and led the other into a trap.
The Queen expected Twilight to take out the real Cadance, but didn't count on The Power of Friendship stopping Twilight in the nick of time.
How does having Twilight take out Cadance help fight Celestia? Especially since having to dispose of Twilight didn't seem to be part of her original plan. Actually, it's more likely that she wanted Cadance, and later Twilight, alive, since she would be able to use them as hostages to ensure Celestia's compliance for long enough to neutralize her. Tossing Twilight down there just mucked things up, and if she wanted Twilight to off Cadance, you'd think she'd have someone or something in place to check if that happened, not to mention that she could have killed either of them herself.
Of course the Changeling Queen would kidnap Cadance. Changelings feed on love, and Cadance spreads it. She's a food synthesizer.
Why are the Cutie Mark Crusaders the flower girls at the wedding? They are never brought up, and it's not like they know Shining Armor or Cadance.
The reason isn't obvious? CUTIE MARK CRUSADER FLOWER GIRLS!
Celestia got letters about and from the CMC. She may have wanted to meet them in person. Since neither Shining Armor or Cadence knew any fillies the right age, they were offered the positions.
Twilight can perform the same spell Shining Armor used to protect Canterlot. Why didn't she ever try using it at all, even if she could only do it on a smaller scale?
Shining Armor seems to be able to calibrate it to leave ponies non-affected, while her version(shown in "ponyville confidential" might not have that feature.
Using the spell on a small scale would have only protected a small amount of ponies, and attracted the attention of the changeling hordes, who would just break it down like they did with Shining's barrier. It would probably even draw the attention of the Queen, who had just beaten Celestia, and she would probably decide put Twilight into one of those containment dealies, rendering her incapable of further action.
Just where exactly did Cadance find that boquet to distract the bridesmaids? It's not exactly something you'd find lying in a cave, or even something you'd be carrying around with you. And there is no sign of it during the song.
It's possible that one of the bridesmaids was transported into the cave while she was arranging the bouquet, and then dropped it after her arrival.
On reviewing the scene, Cadance and Twilight are both backing up worriedly and looking around for something to use, and then as Cadance turns her head her expression goes 'a-ha!'. Then she pulls the bouquet into frame. It does very much look like one of the bridesmaids had just absent-mindedly kicked it into a corner.
Is it just me, or the fact the Applejack was the only one who apologized and her apology sounds half-assed at best?
Twilight herself said Chrysalis had fooled everypony very well; she was mature and knew her friends had good reason to not believe her. Plus, the more pressing issue of defeating Chrysalis was at hoof, so it wasn't the time for apologies.
The Crystal Empire, Parts 1 and 2
How is Candence's cutie mark the Crystal Heart? Is it because she was destined to rule the Crystal Empire? Wouldn't Celestia have known that the Empire was coming back as soon as a pony with a cutie mark like that appeared? Is it possible to have a cutie mark and not know what it means? None of the outside ponies knew the Crystal Heart existed until one of the crystal ponies remembered and mentioned it...
Who said it was specifically a picture of the Crystal Heart, rather just a heart made of crystal? And cutie marks do repeat, so there's probably been other ponies that gained that mark over the centuries.
The Crystal Heart was just a focus for the love of the crystal ponies. Cadence's power is to foster love. To me this means that in Equestria, a heart made of crystal is a symbol of strong love, possibly because of the Crystal Heart and its origin forgotten.
It could also be the universe's way of saying that THIS is Cadence's destiny, similar to how Twilight's cutie mark it the Element of Magic.
... ? Twilight's mark isn't the Element of Magic, the Element took the form of her cutie mark. Celestia saw potential in Twilight before she got her mark.
Actually, I think it is the Element. If you look closely, the element appears in the basic stone sphere form above her head before transforming into the crown and it has the six-pointed star on it. Twilight's cutie mark is the six-pointed star of magic, surrounded by five smaller stars representing the other elements.
Not to mention that the opening of the first episode showed that the Element of Magic tiara was always like that, in a Freeze-Frame Bonus.
That is decidedly odd. Cutie Marks are supposed to be reflection of what is inside, not precognitive, and Twilight's mark is one of those marks that repeats. Shining Armor's uncle's harness design also implies that it runs in the family, which raises a lot of questions and possibilities.
Probably the six-pointed star is a generic symbol for magic in Equestrian culture. Thus a family of unicorns with strong magic would tend to have six-pointed stars in their cutie marks and powerful magic artifacts would be likely to have it as a motif.
If the Crystal Ponies recognized Cadence as the Crystal Princess, and Cadence knew how to activate the Crystal Heart, then why didn't she tell Twilight what she needs to help save the Crystal Empire?
The Crystal Ponies didn't recognize Cadance as the princess until after she got the heart. All Cadance did was put the real heart where the fake was. The process seemed either automated or controlled by the Crystal Ponies.
Since the outside ponies became crystaly when the heart activated and went back to normal when they got far away, would the crystal ponies become normal ponies outside of the Empire's/Heart's range?
They kept their crystal hair even when depressed, so they would probably keep that even outside of the Empire.
Why was there a train station in the middle of the frozen North? Was Celestia planning ahead that much?
It didn't seem to specifically go to the Crystal Empire... Maybe Equestria has other outposts or research stations up there? That would explain how someone spotted it in the first place.
Why weren't the Elements of Harmony used to deal with King Sombra? Unlike against Nightmare Moon, Discord, or Chrysalis, they weren't lost, stolen, nor were their wielders intercepted or rendered ineffective, and it's not like they're limited to purely apocalyptic threats, since Chrysalis was more a mortal threat working of some sort of empowerment. Hell, why seal him away, a lot of pain might have been saved if the Princesses just destroyed him.
Remember that Celestia and Luna were the original users of the Elements. Who's to say that the Elements weren't used and the result was Sombra's imprisonment?
Compare the appearance of the magic used on Sombra to that of the Elements first use against Nightmare Moon. They're nearly identical, supporting the possibility that the Elements were used against Sombra.
No they're not. The Elements always have a rainbow aura when used, even when Celestia soloed Nightmare Moon. Against Sombra, it was just their standard magic auras.
It's more the fact that they didn't say they used them, unlike with Discord.
Because the Elements of Harmony had become a crutch, and Equestria was almost destroyed twice because of it. The Elements were no longer a practical solution. The Mane Six needed to find ways to deal with villains without them.
Well they could have mentioned that in the episode. As it stands, the mane six are sent to deal with an evil power that broke out of a thousand-year-old seal, a city under the curse of dark magic, and a population of ponies brainwashed by evil - all problems that the elements have been shown to rectify. But no-one even bothers to try.
We fundamentally know very little about what the Elements can and, perhaps even more importantly, cannot do. Given that the Mane Six basically never seem to just take them along "just in case", even when facing obvious problems to much or all of Equestria as in "Dragonshy", it stands to reason that they probably do have some limits. (If nothing else, they're basically irreplacable national treasures, so only taking them out of storage once a deserving threat actually unambiguously shows itself makes a degree of sense even without invoking arcane restraints on their function in and of itself.)
That, and the Elements seem to never be able to permanently end a threat, only delay dealing with it by a thousand years.
All crystal ponies are earth ponies. Where did RD and Fluttershy find barding with wing holes?
They might have belonged to the former pegasus residents, but they may have been forced out during Lord Sombra's reign, either they were exiled or they made an exodus. There are statues that depict both pegasi and griffons, so they were certainly aware of winged, quadrupedal sentients. As for why King Sombra didn't get rid of it all, he seemed to run a one-pony dictatorship. He might simply not have been able to round up all the remaining pegasus armor between oppressing the masses and booby-trapping his fortress. Or kept them as trophies.
Or Rarity modified some for them.
Discord was shown to have the power to turn Pegasi and Unicorns into Earth Ponies. Perhaps Sombra simply did the same to ensure nopony could escape his realm, and to further add to their sense of hopelessness. Since Discord is the only confirmed instance of such magic, we don't know if it was temporary, or he just gave them back their horns/wings out of sadistic pleasure once he thought they were harmless. Sombra, on the other hand, may not have wanted the ponies to ever regain their original forms.
Or Sombra might have removed their extra body parts without magic.
To be fair, we don't know what the Crystal Empire's pre-Sombra demographics actually looked like, but we've certainly seen pony settlements favoring one tribe or another before. So it's quite possible that pegasi were always rare at least in the Empire's capital and that what few were present when Sombra took over simply managed to escape (or got killed trying to fight him). That armor? Could have easily been something left for or even by earlier pegasus visitors who only dropped by to attend the Crystal Fair.
Why didn't Rainbow Dash or Fluttershy just take the statue away somewhere safe, like the balcony for "polishing". Why keep it in the center of town?
No doubt because they needed to keep up the illusion that the Crystal Heart was found to keep the Crystal Ponies from losing it. If the one thing that was needed to restore your kingdom was moved from its spot, wouldn't you think something's up?
Dark magic crystals can be destroyed with significant effort. Why didn't anyone try to free Shining Armor? He is already know to be an expert on defensive magic. He could at least sleep while his spells went on.
The only times that dark crystals were destroyed were when Celestia destroyed the ones she used for a demonstration and when the Crystal Heart was used. The magic needed to undo Sombra's dark magic is probably out of Twilight and Shining Armor's range.
Also, they might not have wanted to tamper with it, given the lack of time, and not knowing if they would make it worse, which would have had a negative effect on Cadance.
Princess Celestia destroyed the crystals by shooting them. Using that solution would require shooting Shining's horn. Which is attached to his head. A different solution might have been preferable.
Too Many Pinkie Pies
Wouldn't having a magic pool that could replicate a pony at will be an incredibly useful thing to have? It backfired horribly with Pinkie Pie because she's got no self-control, but wouldn't having the ability to replicate an extra Twilight Sparkle or Shining Armor be useful when a major disaster is coming up?
Thing is, the clones didn't fail because it was Pinkie. The real Pinkie did have self control; she was willing to quiet down to let RD relax, for example, whereas the clones didn't seem to care about anything other than having fun. It seems that the pool didn't clone her perfectly, it created copies that imitated her surface personality (her desire to have lots of fun), but not her care and consideration for her friends. The clones just wanted to enjoy themselves, whereas Pinkie wanted to have fun and for her friends to also have fun. If the ponies picked up on that, it's not hard to see how they might come to the conclusion that the pool would do more harm than good. Like if the pool copied Twilight, it's entirely possible you'd get a pony with comparable magical ability and drive to study, but none of the motivation to use that ability for the sake of her friends, the end result being that the library would be packed with a bunch of powerful magic unicorns that would react very badly to being removed.
More importantly, the dupes would lack the knowledge of the original. Aside from the question of personality, you'd have a Twilight Sparkle without a magical education and a Shining Armor without military training. Not useful.
How come neither Twilight nor Spike noticed the suspicious-looking horseshoe at the back of the shelf before, and just what book was it hiding?
And why did Pinkie's grandma know about the pool that was mentioned in it? Or should we be wondering why the book knew about the pool that Grandma Pie had found? And was that the only secret compartment in the library? Many subtle questions were raised this episode.
There is a simple explanation: somepony had used the pool before to clone herself, to pretty much the same result. The librarian at the time hid the book once the clones had been dispelled to prevent anypony else from stumbling across it. As for how Grandma Pie got ahold of this information, she was probably there to witness it, if not the one that cloned herself the last time.
Another question: why didn't the book mention that the duplicates don't have the memories of the original? That was one of the most noticeable things about the dupes.
Instead of suggesting a difficult task, why didn't Pinkie Pie suggest a test of knowledge? It's made clear that the clones don't have Pinkie's memories and don't know anything about her friends, while Pinkie has been shown to have an extraordinary memory for details of their lives.
Before the clones split up, she tested them to remember the names of her friends.
They would know the names yes, but only the real Pinkie would know their birthdays and favorite colors and what song they danced to at their last party, and all that sort of thing.
Also, Pinkie has been shown several times to have an almost supernatural memory. The real Pinkie Pie would recall those events with detail that would be impossible for anybody who didn't experience them first hand.
To expand on the above, Pinkie's/the clones' photographic memory means that in order to properly give them a memory test, they would either have to quiz each Pinkie one at a time in a sound-proof room, or just line the Pinkies up and fire off random questions down the line until only one Pinkie remains. These are both much safer, but exhausting and time-consuming. It's not impossible to administer this test, but WAAY too boring for a comedy television show and with no dramatic payoff.
Assuming Twilight is just as trigger happy, it would be a step up from watching paint dry..
One Bad Apple
The moral of the episode is that you can solve a bullying problem by just telling an adult. But if Babs is troubled by bullies, and Applejack knows this, she must have already told her parents and it didn't solve anything.
Not necessarily, as we didn't see anything from Manehattan. If the bullying was recent(solved or not) her parents probably just wanted to give her some time to relax and have fun.
So... Is Babs going to stay in contact with Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon? The two of them seemed to actually like her, so as far as they know, she decided to turn on them for no reason. Kind of a terrible way to end a relationship.
Because she ditched two bullying Spoiled Brat twits? Babs is better off without them.
They didn't liked her for who she was, but only for how she wa treating Apple Bloom(and the others)
In the beginning of the episode Fluttershy was biting her nails. Except she doesn't have any nails. So what the heck was she biting and what were those clippings that were scatter on the ground? Was she biting her hooves? Because if so then ...ouch.
Why 'ouch'? Hooves, at least the outer layer, are nails/claws.
Really? I always figured they were a part of the leg. Plus, considering how hard hooves are biting them can't really be good for one's teeth.
Hooves are essentially a big finger or toenail. That's why you see ponies in the show using nail files on them, and why equines can have nails driven into them without suffering horrible injuries. Might not be good for her teeth,note I have no idea how equine teeth work, but I'm pretty sure that it isn't the same as how human teeth work. but Fluttershy doesn't do it often.
There's actually a possible bit of fridge logic in that. Horses kept in domestication often have problematic teeth that require regular dental care. Their teeth continue to grow throughout their lives, and uneven wear on them can actually lead to a number of very serious health problems. It's very possible that chewing on one's hooves is actually fairly healthy, as it would wear down the ridges that tend to grow on their teeth and make chewing food uncomfortable. Veterinarians actually use metal files for this purpose in real life.
There's a spell that lets a pony modify their own age, or that of others. Since it can only be used by the most powerful of unicorns, does that mean that Princess Celestia and Princess Luna have been using magic to keep themselves young?
Well, you see, Celestia and Luna aren't just powerful unicorns, they're alicorns, which appear to be god-level ponies. They probably look permanently young naturally.
Cadance being grabbed by Chrysalis and unable to escape on her own despite lax security measures indicates that most winged unicorns aren't supremely powerful. She also seems to age normally. Winged unicorns get their magic from the unicorn part, and use the same magic as unicorns without wings. Since Celestia and Luna are more powerful than other unicorns and winged unicorns, using a spell would explain why they don't seem to age when Cadance does.
Twilight was unaware that Celestia was over a thousand years old in the second episode, which implies that she doesn't know how Celestia's aging process works. That would imply that it isn't standard for whatever she is.
Family Appreciation Day would seem to suggest otherwise. Nobody reacted with any shock or confusion when Granny Smith told the class that Celestia had personally granted the Apple family their homestead, which the class knew predated the Ponyville's founding; meaning that her long life is common knowledge. It also seems unlikely that Twilight—who is a bookworm who, in the very first episode, was seen to be researching Equestrian history—would not know that Celestia had been present at (or at least alive during) major historical events.
Princess being several centuries old is common knowledge. Princess Celestia being over a thousand years old it not. The events of a thousand years ago shrouded in mystery, and not even someone as studious as Twilight Sparkle knows what happened then. The knowledge of when Princess Celestia began her rule has seemingly been lost, with most ponies assuming it has been considerably less then a thousand years. Whether anyone knows how Princess Celestia has lasted so long is unknown. It could very well be common knowledge that Princess Celestia has been age regressing herself on a regular basis.
Why didn't Spike just contact Princess Celestia himself?
Because the barrier apparently sealed off Equestria entirely, presumably including his magical fire.
That seems unlikely. Spike has received messages through Shining Armor's shield, which was even larger.
Shining Armor's shield was selective in its targeting, capable of affecting Changelings without affecting buildings, trains, ponies or dragons (which is why only the Changelings got sent flying, instead of flattening Canterlot into a love shield-induced crater). Trixie's wasn't, most likely because she didn't want it to be.
Outside of his sudden blast, Shining's shield has to have holes opened to let people through. Spike's letters went through it while it was in that state. Spike's letters also don't seem to travel across all the intervening space, as he receives them almost instantly and through his mouth rather than the air.
How much help could Celestia have dispensed from Saddle Arabia? She still would have had to get back to Ponyville from what is implied to be the other side of the world. And since only Spike and her seem to be able to use that form of communication, she probably wouldn't be able to send help from within Equestria, either.
Trixie's attack only took place in the span of either one or two days, if that. Trixie's clouds made it hard to judge time of day. Maybe help just didn't have enough time to arrive?
Where did Trixie get all that money to buy the Alicorn Amulet when she had to take menial jobs just to make a living?
She could have saved all the money and over the span of a year or two gotten enough. Or sold her trailer and other possessions, depending on just how long has passed since Boast Busters.
Rock farming is actually a very lucrative business.
Or that was her secret bit stash, and she just had to raise the bits to travel to its hiding place.
How did Fluttershy get back into the dome so easily?
Presumably she got back in when Twilight did. We're not shown the second duel happened DIRECTLY after Twilight returned. She may have simply said that she wanted time to prepare or something like that. Or Fluttershy just got back in the same way she got out.
Getting into the dome isn’t really the problem. Trixie was probably only too happy to let her in.
She might have just had the beavers take another tree back in.
The Alicorn Amulet doesn't give Trixie wings, but it does increase her unicorn powers. So does the alicorn part of the name refer to winged unicorns or the material that unicorn horns are made of?
"Alicorn" in this context refers to the power level of the Alicorn i.e. "godly might", not the Winged Unicorns themselves.
Except the amulet made Trixie much more powerful than Princess Cadance. Vast power seems to be unique to Celestia and Luna, not common to all winged unicorns. And until Luna's recent return, Celestia was the only pony known to have that kind of power.
But we don't know if alicorns in general are super-powerful, or if that is a unique property of Celestia and Luna (since we don't exactly see Cadance laying the smackdown when the need arose, and Hearts and Hooves princess succumbed to a love drug). Meanwhile, we do have an artifact that looks like an alicorn, so Occam's Razor seems to be in play here.
The Alicorn Amulet increases the power of the wearer's alicorn. What's simpler than that? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with winged unicorns.
The design seems to be a unicorn surrounded by a pair of wings.
But the function doesn't have anything to do with wings. It would be odd to be named after a winged unicorn if it doesn't do anything relating to winged unicorns.
Why must it be named after its function? Why can't it be named for what it looks like?
There's no proof that Winged Unicorns are called alicorns in setting, and alicorn as in horn explains what it does well enough to justify the name. Heck, since winged unicorns are called unicorns in setting, alicorn as in a unicorn's horn refers to both what it does and the the unicorn design.
This is true. That said, the producers of the show do have their ear to the ground with the fandom, and I believe have used the term to describe them in assorted Word Of God, and the term "alicorn" on this website has been used to describe winged unicorns far more often than the horn. Hence why we can have this argument. Since this is the first time the word has ever come up, we'll just have to wait and see whether or not they'll use the term in the future to describe one thing or another.
In the season finale, Rarity tells a certain newly-minted winged unicorn that the latter has "become an alicorn". Seems the word has finally become canon after all.
Why didn't Spike just dig a hole to get out of the dome?
Why would he? Aside from the question of whether or not the dome extended under ground, he was busy in the library and can't cover ground as fast as a pony. And if he could send messages out,note Which seems likely, as his messages went through Shining Armor's shield he was needed to send messages to from Ponyville to Celestia.
Sleepless in Ponyville
How much time does Luna spend patrolling dreams? Does she have enough time left over to actually hold court, or is the bureaucracy entirely Celestia's purview?
Celestia seemed to be doing perfectly well before Luna returned, so I doubt it would take her that long. It's also possible that she does some of the patrolling while she's asleep.
Did Celestia patrol dreams? Scootaloo's reaction implies that Celestia either didn't, or that it was so rare as to be unknown.
Even the bureaucrats and other ponies at court have to sleep sometime, so it's not implausible that Luna would in fact have more time to herself at night than Celestia ever seems to during the day. Besides, even as co-ruler Luna isn't just Younger!Night!Celestia — it's not so inconceivable that the two might actually have somewhat different duties on their respective shifts.
As pointed out by CR: If Luna has the ability to dream-walk and help children all over Equestria fight nightmares, how come she felt lonely and isolated a thousand years ago? Why would it bother her so much that nopony comes out to play in her night, if she can just visit anypony in their dreams?
Perhaps it was something Luna had only developed recently, possibly as a realization that "you know, maybe I should do something more constructive about this 'I'm lonely in the night' thing other than turning to the dark side." The ability to dream walk probably would have been helpful in uncovering Queen Chrysalis.
Are we sure that Luna was actually there? Scootaloo was dreaming, after all.
Unless Scootaloo was still dreaming while confessing to Rainbow Dash, Occam's Razor suggests that Luna being actually there makes more sense than "meh, it was all just Scoots's imagination". Because that's when we get the vision of her in the moon telling Scootaloo it's time to face her fears...
I agree, but if the choices are between 'Scootaloo was dreaming/hallucinating/imagining it,' and 'Luna's giant silhouette on the moon was speaking to Scootaloo to remind her of what she had told her in the dream she had infiltrated,' I think Occam's razor demands we accept that Scootaloo was still dreaming.
Not in Equestria, where the night actually has a magical talking pony princess. Essentially, it may come down to this: the episode showed us Luna, and there was no indication whatsoever that she was supposed to be somehow less real than in any of her other appearances. So what's more likely — that she was, in fact, there, or that the show was blatantly and for no good reason lying to the audience about what actually happened?
She may have had the exact same ability back then and still eventually decided that it just wasn't enough for her. We simply don't know how much time actually passed between her first trace of resentment and her going all-out Nightmare Moon — she's immortal, it could easily have taken centuries or more. (Incidentally, if she could dream-walk back then already, that would add a whole new dimension to the name "Nightmare Moon"...)
I kinda theorized that Luna was like the Absol of the MLP universe. Let me explain, according its Pokedex entry Absol has the ability to foresee disaster and it often tries to forewarn people of these disasters. But, because it's always there when bad things happen it is always blamed by those it was trying to warn as the cause of the disaster. What I'm thinking is that whenever Luna tried to help someone out with a nightmare but failed she often ended up becoming associated with the nightmare in the process.
Luna didn't go to the dark side because she was lonely, she went because no-one CARED about the night - everyone loves the day, but then dark comes and they close their eyes and go to an entirely made-up world of their own. And what she probably finds when she Dreamwalks there is that most people are having wonderful dreams full of SUNSHINE... and the few that are having nightmares are dreaming up scary and foreboding places where, among other things, it's night. Because the night is nothing but a dark and scary place.
Or you know it's just a power she has, but one she only uses occasionally when the opportunity arises. Really nothing up to that point implied even a hint of the sort omniscience and multitasking monitoring even a tiny pittance of the population would demand. To suppose that she can suddenly nets her several god like Required Secondary Powers. Thus the simple explanation is that having little else to do she may often wander the land during the night and on coming across the obviously troubled child decided to try and help. This maybe how it always goes, that she only does it on occasion when she happens upon an obvious case.
If Luna can look into everypony's dreams, how come she was so out of touch with present pony culture in "Luna Eclipsed"?
She (hopefully) couldn't do this when sealed into the moon, and it may have taken some time for her abilities to recover when she returned. Dreams also tend to reflect reality, rather than mirror it: Scoot's dreams are shaped by recent stories and by her surroundings, but using them to make a map for the campsite would be counterproductive. Especially given how ponies are incredibly respective of Princess Celestia, dreams probably show Princesses speaking with massive presence and incredible showmareship just because ponies feel Celestia is a Big Deal even when she's coming by for tea. Other enjoyable things take on not-logic, such as where throwing plushy spiders and commanding animated live spiders are fundamentally similar. She may also consider it rude (or squicky) to interact or directly observe when not needed, or may not even observe most dreamers unless there's signs of panic or nightmare, or may even need to be invited such as when Scoot is asking for help.
Also consider: when "Luna Eclipsed" took place, Luna was still working off the bad image that other ponies had of her for being NMM. If she didn't take the steps that were started in "Eclipsed", to show she, as Luna and not as NMM, was a caring princess, her sudden appearances in everypony's dreams would have likely caused mass panic. Getting the population to accept her as a kind pony was a needed step before she could patrol dreams.
How could Rainbow Dash's cloud-cushion save everyone from the fall? Only Pegasi can interact with clouds.
Twilight probably already cast the cloudwalking spell on all of them. This is a wise move when visiting any pegasus settlement, even if most of the Academy is on a mountaintop. This is a bit of a Voodoo Shark though — how did Rainbow Dash know that the spell was cast?
Because she knows Twilight Sparkle and how Twilight dearly loves her checklists.
Rainbow Dash seemed to put unusual effort into packing the cloud in, rather than simply moving the cloud under them. Maybe all ponies can walk on compacted clouds, but they aren't used for making Pegasus structures like Cloudsdale because they are unstable, aren't buoyant in air, or something else along those lines.
Pegasus magic. For all we know any pegasus could make a cloud dense enough for others to walk on, they just don't bother very often because it's extra work for which there isn't much demand — and of course few could match a properly motivated Rainbow Dash for sheer speed in putting one together.
This is almost certain to be true, consider Cloudsdale. It's easy to just gloss over without thinking, but even cursory glances of scenes set their show numerous solid objects simply sitting on clouds. Rainbow Dash's briefly seen bedroom is another example featuring tables supporting books, and a blanket laid over a cloud bed. Although this does then somewhat raise questions about why at least certain sections of both aren't made that solid to allow visitors.
There's probably a weight limit. Even a small pony must be heavier than the average table, and a compact/solid cloud might not have the resistance or stability to hold an Earth or Unicorn Pony for long. Anyway, Rainbow Dash didn't need the clouds to hold her friends' weight for long, just to be compact enough to soften the fall and bounce them up, and this only took a few seconds; she only needed to make the clouds moderately solid for a brief rescue. Still very impressive since she had to make them capable of working as a safety net for five ponies around her same weight each.
How did the entire training staff miss the fact that Lightning Dust is putting her fellow cadets in danger? It is an academy that is teaching a bunch of amateur ponies how to perform dangerous flight maneuvers, you think that the staff would have better quality control and more eyes to monitor the cadets to prevent accidents.
At the time of the tornado incident, there was at least one officer on duty, counting the clouds the cadets took out. It's also implied that Rainbow and Lightning are unusually skilled, so they might simply have been unprepared for them. In any case, the Academy doesn't seem to be as stringent as military bases would be expected to be.
Just For Sidekicks
The photos from the cold open show Spike trying to feed Peewee ice cream, and Peewee doesn't like it. Makes sense, since phoenixes are creatures of fire.
Wait... how did Spike find Peewee's parents, considering the rather long journey he had to take, the fact that the family scattered after the dragon attack, and any other problems with that? Or did Spike find Peewee a foster family because of the above difficulties?
Perhaps Philomena, Princess Celestia's pet Phoenix, helped locate Peewee's original parents.
They may not be the original parents, but a pair that were willing to take in Peewee, and that Peewee was happy to stay with.
The lack of the other phoenix chicks adds to this theory
How do ponies valuate jewels? The tiniest of Spike's gems was worthy enough to pay for a huge, expensive hairdryer while the largest gems were barely enough to pay for train tickets and a tray of donuts.
The smallest jewel was probably the most expensive because, whatever type it was, it was the rarest of them all... and who gave Spike this particular jewel but Rarity?
Other than the tiny jewel being used to pay for something, the others were given as bribes, so it's probable that Spike got shortchanged by the train ponies. That or the dryer was cheaper.
The Schizo Tech industrial-strength hair dryer may have been a good visual gag, but in a land where the bulk of the population lacks fingers to grip towels easily, and have fur coats, a hair dryer of that size may actually be practical. It's not the pampering one would get at a spa but it would certainly get a pony dry.
The thing is that during Ponyville Confidential the main characters all go the spa together and they can be seen wearing robes and towels. They must have some capacity to grip on to things with their hooves.
So there's apparently a group of fillies that work towards earning a small iconograph of an activity through their deeds in that activity? The CMC may want to look into joining the Filly Scouts...
Spike has a friend who is a gem expert and another who is a Supreme Chef. Why didn't he ask one of them for help with his cake?
Part of the fun of making a cake is snacking on the batter. Having someone else involved, especially those who can't physically eat the cake, would result in them stopping you from doing that. Spike's only issue with making the cake is his own lack of self-control, so if he doesn't have that, then he doesn't have the self-control to ask someone else for help with his cake.
Apple Family Reunion
Just how long is a moon? They had a reunion in the first episode, but they state that they have them every hundred moons.
Well, in real life a "moon" is one lunar cycle, or about a month. Although given that in Equestria the moon is manually controlled, who knows?
The reunion in the pilot could have been for the Summer Sun Celebration rather than part of the normal reunion cycle. The Summer Sun Celebration usually isn't held in town where the family founder lives, so they could have decided to hold a out of cycle gathering to celebrate the occasion as well as helping set up the festival.
Family Appreciation Day shows Granny Smith as being roughly the age of the mane cast when her family first moved to Ponyville, but the earliest family reunion photo shows her standing in front of what is clearly the same barn as a filly. Is there some way of reconciling that, or did the writers just lose track of the timeline?
If the barn got wrecked and rebuilt as often back in the day as it seems to be in modern times on the show (including the time right in this episode), it's probably not actually the same barn after all.
An Apple family reunion and zero appearance or mention of Applejack, Apple Bloom, and Big Mac's parents?
Word of God has it that the two shooting stars we see in the sky from time to time are meant to stand in for them. Which is probably as close to an actual confirmation that they're no longer with us as we're going to get.
Speaking of parents, if Babs Seed was there, and "everypony" from the Apple family still alive was there, where was Babs' parents?
There is one possible answer, that being that Babs would be the child of Aunt and Uncle Orange (who are both present at the reunion). Where she got her Bronx accent from, nopony may know, but its a workable theory.
Spike At Your Service
Just where did Spike get this noble dragon code anyway? In "Dragon Quest" Spike knows little to nothing about his background, history or species, and begged Twilight for even a tiny bit of information. Twilight's library doesn't have much on dragon lore either; they looked through the whole thing. So either Spike made it up himself to make himself feel better after hanging out with those jerky teen dragons, or he's encountered somepony somewhere who knows some dragon lore (possibly Canterlot's library has some, or perhaps Zecora). The song he sang about dragons may also indicate he composed that himself or heard somepony (or griffin...buffalo...mule...) sing it.
He referred to it as "his" dragon code. He probably made it up, but when he made it is unknown.
However, when AJ goes to talk to Twilight, Twilight is apparently well-versed on this Dragon Code and more that just pandering to Spike. Unless there's some Noodle Incident where Twilight saved Spike and learned of this made-up code from him at that time.
Or Spike told her about it when he made it. The two of them do live together.
Considering none of the other dragons featured were particularly noble, including Adult Spike from Secret of My Excess and that Spike's worst nightmare is not being Twilight'a assistant anymore, this episode raises a lot more questions about the veracity of the "Dragon's Code".
It's possible that the code never came up with the other dragons, having had no one save their life at any point in time. It's also possible that the "code" is something that Spike set for himself only, to distance himself from the brutish, animalistic dragons.
Living in a library and being raised by Twilight and (according to Word Of God) Princess Celestia herself, Spike's ideas of nobleness and heroism probably come from knights' stories. Therefore, his own 'code of honor' would be based on those commonly associated with knighthood, including the 'life debt' part.
Practically confirmed by the fact Spike shows a card he obviously did himself as proof of this code's existence.
What was the point of cleaning the pig if it was going to get dirty all over again? That is like the most pointless thing ever!
Actually, farmers bath their pigs when they're taking them to a contest so the judges can examine them in detail. Maybe Applejack was taking the pig to a contest.
Another option is that AJ gave that job to Apple Bloom just to give her little sister something to do and make the little girl feel she's collaborating with the farm's chores; doing a job that isn't beyond the little one's capacities and has no serious consequences if done wrong. It's something parents and older siblings often do to teach responsibility to children and to make them feel useful.
Everything gets dirty again eventually after you clean it, so let's just stop wasting time on cleaning anything altogether...oh, wait. — More seriously, if you wanted to give the pig even the most cursory check to see whether or not it looks healthy (no unusual skin conditions or the like, say), cleaning it off first would only make sense.
I know everything gets dirty eventually, but this is different. The pig rolled around in mud literally less than an minute after it was cleaned. I can understand cleaning it if you were gonna do something important with the pig... but just letting it get dirty so soon? That would be like if someone cleaned their dog and it ran off to go roll around in mud immediately after giving them a bath, that would be very frustrating.
It makes perfect sense for the pig to roll in mud. Pigs lack sweat glands and need to roll in mud to keep themselves cool, or they could very well die. The most likely reason for cleaning it was to check on its health. So after the pig was found healthy they let it roll in mud so it can stay healthy.
It's called a joke, as in "Hey, they went to all that trouble to clean the pig and now it's dirty again, ha ha ha."
The timber wolves are made out of wood, an extremely flammable substance. Why doesn't Spike set them on fire?
Because "extremely" flammable is an exaggeration (most wood actually doesn't instantly burst into flame the moment you hold a match or the like to it), and because his fire breath has a pretty short range and so using it would have meant getting closer to the monsters, not away from them.
The above is correct. Only chemicals fall in the category of "extremely flammable", which is why you typically see people use chemicals like gasoline when they burn a house down because that makes the process faster. A fire is itself a chemical process and it needs fuel to consume in order to continue burning. You could burn a large structure of wood if you struck at the right spot but this would require you to get close, and unlike a house a giant wolf made of wood isn't going to allow you to get close without attacking you. Still, Spike should have at least tried as it would have been more substantial than throwing a rock at it.
But the reasons above explain why setting wood on fire is impractical, and we see well enough in the episode that throwing rocks at them breaks them into pieces. Also, the wolves are animated by some kind of living magic, so perhaps intuitively obvious methods like setting them on fire don't work on them at all.
Why did they need to make a Timberwolf marionette which Twilight was going to animate via its strings/handles, when she could have just animated it herself with the same magic?
Because her magic would have made the puppet glow. However, as evidenced by Discord's similar use of puppetry when he 'discorded' applejack, peripheral vision doesn't exist when it's plot convenient.
Though arguably, the show has not outright asserted that the other ponies see the magic glow when an object is being manipulated (see "Winter Wrap Up", where despite the entire plow glowing, AJ can't tell Twilight is using magic.)
The show has been very consistent about ponies being unable to see spell auras. There isn't any evidence that they can see them, and Mystery explicitly shows that unicorn levitation is invisible from the perspective of the other characters. Stronger spells effects might sometimes be visible, but the standard glow isn't.
Keep Calm and Flutter On
During the episode the Mane 6 are served at a dinner party by Discord. During the Dinner Pinkie Pie requests gravy with her food, now seeing that ponies in nature are herbivores it seems a bit odd.
You can find recipes for vegetarian gravy online. There's onion gravy, for instance.
You can also make it with mushroom soup. Just needs a little thickening, so add a tablespoon of corn starch. Stir, and add more until it's the way you want it. (Fantastic on potatoes.) However, that gravy was just plain brown, which can be made without ingredients that will offend a herbivorous animal. Heck, my cat eats it!
Your cat is a pure herbivore, like a horse? Better check on that. Cats are definitely carnivorous.
I think he's talking about the gravy. And the cat is unlikely to be on a pure gravy diet.
If the only thing keeping Discord in check is his desire to have a friend, what happens when he makes friends that share his interests?
I don't think we'll need to worry. The DC universe and Equestria do not share a continuity so Discord and The Joker will never meet. On a more serious note, friendship is more than just having similar interests. Even if Discord were to find someone with a love for chaos he wouldn't want to hurt his newly made friends, especially Fluttershy. (Well, he truly has reformed that is.)
After seeing Angel's behavior in "Just for Sidekicks" and considering everything else about the bunny, it's not too hard to imagine that Fluttershy's idea for reforming Discord - by sticking to being his friend no matter what - was probably based on her own experience of having to "tame" Angel with the same ploy and why she continues to let herself be a doormat at times to his actions.
Games Ponies Play
Wait, how does Cloudsdale intend to hold the Equestria Games if only a third of the population can actually walk in the city without magical aid? Or do they have/intended to build a ground-based section?
Why do you think it wasn't chosen?
In Sonic Rainboom, it was shown that there are spells to allow non-Pegasus ponies to walk on clouds temporarily.
Yes, but that would be incredibly inconvenient. It's one thing to do it for 4 people, it's another to do it for several hundred.
Not to mention all the walkways that would have to be added to a city where the local population is used to flying from place to place in order to accommodate the non-pegasi, even with cloudwalking spells.
But it was considered as a location, even if it was rejected, so it could have been feasible to put in features for non-pegasi. Cloud-walking spells and condensed clouds are just two options, so long as they could get the staff. Or else the entire city could be lowered to ground level temporarily.
So, the Crystal Empire is part of Equestria? In this episode it was called just a city in Equestria, and it is unlikely that it would be chosen as a location for the games if it was actually a foreign nation.
Equestria in general is considered an amalgamation of all the territories that subscribe to Princess Celestia's authority, and are thus subject to the authority of Canterlot politics. An Empire by definition works in much the same way, it has control of multiple different territories that are subject to the ruling body's authority. The Crystal Empire logically cannot be an Empire and at the same time be an Equestrian kingdom, either it is an Empire thus making it a foreign, but friendly, nation, or it is subject to Celestia's authority. However regardless of whether it is a foreign nation or not I don't see why Celestia wouldn't involve friendly foreign nations in their sports, similar to the Olympics we host in real life.
It's possible the name "Crystal Empire" is a remnant of a time when it was much bigger. Nowadays, it's just a name, like Equestria being called a kingdom, despite the fact that nations ruled by princes/princesses are called "principalities".
Given that the Crystal Empire has been gone for the past thousand years, it's likely that they lack the infrastructure to act as an independent nation, and as such they're considered a part of Equestria until it's strengthened enough to exist on its own. In fact, that might be why they're so adamant about hosting the games; it would demonstrate that they're capable of functioning on such a large scale.
The Mane Six would have realized they weren't attending the real inspector just by looking at her cutie mark; a chicken/hen. Unless the games inspector used to be a poultry inspector, this detail is more than enough to question the mare's identity, since the cutie mark reflects a pony's personality or job.
With how Rainbow Dash was acting, she'd probably just claim it was another test or something.
Maybe there are (non-magical) ways to conceal one's cutie mark and RD thought that was what the inspector used.
Yeah, in Ponyville Confidential we see that cutie marks are part of the coat, NOT the skin, so RD probably thought that she just used paint or something.
What. By the same logic, Cheerilee's flowers make her a gardener, Twilight's flash of light makes her a photographer, and Luna's moon makes her an astronomer. Cutie marks aren't a visual indication of job.
Plus, Idiot Ball. The plot required them to ignore any indication that they were dealing with a run-of-the-mill tourist, up to and including having a highly ambiguous way of telling the inspector apart from anyone else. Yet they don't do the basic thing, such as ask for a name.
Magical Mystery Cure
Needless to say, there's a lot of past explanations and fan theories that are verified, retconned, or Jossed based on the impact of cutie marks being swapped around. It's probably best to take up the MST3K Mantra to enjoy this episode and not worry about the specifics.
The biggest question is what is the relationship between cutie marks, one's special talent, one's destiny, and one's actual responsibility in life. For example, Rainbow Dash's CM came about when she discovered she was a speed demon, not for weather control, yet here Swapped!Rarity claims it is for her weather control ability. Similarly, Rarity's CM came about for finding gems, not for dressmaking as Swapped!AJ has to do.
Rarity signature spell is for finding gems, her cutie mark didn't appeared until she saw the other fillies wearing her gem-encrusted costumes happily, not just for finding the gems, alternatively, one gives their own meaning to their cutie mark, as Cherilee's flowers means "teaching" to her, and Twilights means "magic", while Photo Finish has the same mark and means "Taking awesome photographs" to her.
Rarity didn't say what she thought her fake mark symbolized, just that she had been controlling the weather since it appeared. Rarity's response strongly implied that she had a different interpretation than Rainbow Dash.
The one thing that extremely bugs me about this episode is number of people insisting Rainbow Dash's CM is about racing. Just look at it - it's *cloud*, not finish line. Rainbow Dash got it by creating rainboom, a *weather* phenomenon. Same with Rarity - she got it making dresses. Seriously, racing and gemfinding? What?
In the Chronicles episode, Rainbow's description of the event strongly implies that her love of racing (and of winning) lies behind her cutie mark's symbolism. Weather symbols seem to be stock for pegasi, and the rainbow lightning bolt is a reference to the rainboom she made on that day, the one thing that makes her stand out above the crowd. Also, Rarity got her cutie mark after she incorporated the gems into her designs, satisfying her need to make them spectacular rather than nice, so the implication is that the gems represent her artistic insight. In any case, it's risky to take an easy identification of one's job through one's cutie mark, as Cheerilee shows with the three flowers being symbols for "blooming" students.
Rarity claimed to have been controlling weather since her cutie mark appeared, but Dash continued her schooling for some time after getting her mark. While Rarity was literally correct, did she mean that she remembered starting the weather control job when she was a filly, or what?
Probably a fake memory that hasn't been well-integrated with the rest of her mind. None of them seem very sure about the placements they got; they simply put it down to "cutie mark says yes, so what can you do?"
If Swapped!RBD is living in Fluttershy's cottage, Swapped!Fluttershy in Pinkie's bedroom, etc. - where does Swapped!Rarity live? If she really had RBD's life, her house would have been a cloud one in the sky.
The changes weren't retroactive, and didn't last long enough for Rarity to try to spend the night at Rainbow's house. It would have been interesting how Rarity's altered memories tried to play that.
How did the whole scenario play out for the rest of the Apple family - did they think Pinkie was a family member or did they know something was wrong? (a question about all the townsponies as well) Did they just disappear and let Sweet Apple Acres fall into decay?
Given that Twilight started looking intot he swaps right after breakfast, the other Apples might not have realized that Applejack had ran off and Pinkie replaced her until Twilight got there. After that, they were just putting up with her until Twilight found a solution.
While Celestia was probably going to grant Twilight the title regardless of what the completed spell did, did Celestia know what Twilight's version was going to do? Given that the uncompleted version did nothing related to creating winged unicorns, expecting it to have that result doesn't really make sense.
"From one to another, another to one. A mark of one's destiny singled out alone fulfilled." Based on the wording of the incomplete spell itself, it honestly seems to be a spell to fulfill one's destiny. But as it was incomplete, didn't work out as planned, and caused the Element of Magic to mess with the other Elements. A big of fridge also comes into play when you consider the possibility that Starswirl did complete the spell. Has Discord's origin been elaborated on at all yet? Hmm...
Discord's friendless background, to an extent far beyond that of Twilight Sparkle, judging by his reaction, makes it highly unlikely that he was ever a pony. Then again, his claims of being friendless play badly with the amount of social skills that he has displayed.
On the other hand/hoof, Starswirl was said to have failed the spell because he didn't understand friendship like Twilight did. And are you implying that a pony growing up without friends is impossible simply because they are a pony? That...makes no sense.
How was becoming a winged unicorn Twilight's destiny if it only happened because she finished a spell that was given to her by Princess Celestia? It's just as artificial as her friends' swapped marks, just that no one is complaining about it.
That's the subtle (read: mind-boggling) logic of destiny; twilight was destined to complete the spell that would complete her destiny.note in-show, anyway.
In the flashbacks to ancient times which Twilight sees in the first two episodes, why neither Luna, nor Celestia speaks in Ye Olde Butcherede Englishe, even though the former was doing it when she was released from her thousand-years imprisonment?
The Royal Canterlot Voice was used for a Royal addressing their subjects. When Luna is talking to her sister, she's probably a lot more informal. Either that or Translation Convention.
Princess Celestia is watching you (or at least, she's still watching Twilight Sparkle). When Twilight considers out loud the possibility of going to Canterlot for more information while researching the box given to her by the Tree of Harmony, Spike immediately belches up a message from Celestia. When read aloud, it is phrased exactly as if she was in the room with them the entire time, speaking to them directly.
In "Daring Don't" Rainbow Dash is trying to convince Twilight to help Daring Do retrieve the ring. Twilight's response is "Okay, but it sounds to me like we're in way, way, way over our heads." 'Way in over your heads?" Twilight, how many times have you and your friends saved Equestria? You're like the first person people go to for this sort of stuff.
If Daring Do works alone because she's so concerned with secrecy, why does she at the same time go and describe her adventures in detail in her books? For that matter, if Caballeron is a real person and she wrote about him using his real name and all, why does no one question if she's basing her books off real events? At least a few people probably are acquainted with Caballeron and would recognize him in the book. And if Caballeron's such a money-grab, why didn't he sue Yearling and demand some kind of royalties for using his name in her story?
Maybe because people just write it off as fiction? Just because a book is similar to real events doesn't mean its real. Also, the few ponies associated with Caballeron might have been sworn to secrecy or something. I'm not sure it's possible to get sued for using someone's name. Lots of stories have names like "John" or "Tom" and no ones thought of suing the author, but I could be wrong.
Plus Caballeron is a criminal. He probably had committed enough crimes that whatever money he can get from royalties is nothing next to the sentence he'd get if the police gets a hold on him. Similarly, even with all the fantastic fauna around Equestria, it seems ahuzotls are considered mythical, nonexistent creatures, so the general public thinks Ahuizotl is just a fictional villain.
Similarly, it fits with one of this season´s changes; the Mane Six no longer send letters to Celestia, but make a journal about their experiences and life lessons for other ponies to learn from them. Daring Do´s stories are basically a journal, available to general public, and even if most ponies consider it just a work of fiction, they contain information about Daring's enemies, the relics she had saved, and old civilizations she had studied.