Fridge: Tales of Symphonia

Fridge Brilliance
  • Lloyd's vices at the beginning of the story represent the opposite of what Colette goes through during her angel transformation - he's a Big Eater, he oversleeps (and sleeps in class), he constantly complains about being uncomfortably hot in Triet, and he talks too much.
  • Colette's angel transformation greatly resemble the symptoms of depression. And while the typical efficiency-obsessed workaholic may think it would be awesome if they didn't have to eat, sleep, or feel uncomfortably hot or cold, the way Colette's transformation is portrayed negatively is a reminder to all of us to appreciate the little "inconveniences" that make us human.
  • Why do so many of Lloyd's (and various other characters') artes have demonic-sounding names? Because demons are the opposite of angels, and the angels are the enemies.
  • Kratos and Presea, the two playable characters with a leitmotif not in common time, are also the two characters whose aging processes have been changed by Exspheres.
  • In the test-taking scene at the Palmacosta Academy, we get everyone's scores - Lloyd gets 25, Sheena 190, Colette 210, Presea 240, Regal 290, Zelos 300, Kratos 380, and Raine gets a perfect score. Genis gets either 398 or 400. While this seems at first to be just another gag on Lloyd's stupidity, you eventually realize that all the scores make perfect sense in context:
    • Sheena grew up in an isolated village. On top of that, she tends to have self-confidence issues that might have undermined her performance on the test.
    • Colette doesn't seem dumb, but she's also characterized as naive and inexperienced.
    • Presea and Regal are much older and more experienced than Lloyd and Colette. Regal in particular is a successful businessman running a large company in Tethe'alla.
    • Zelos grew up in the large city of Meltokio, had sufficient resources and privilege to pursue whatever he wanted, and lives in a world much more advanced than Sylvarant. He is also a lot smarter than he seems at first
    • Kratos is actually 4000 years old. The reason he didn't get a perfect score is probably because history books are not always accurate.
  • Noishe, while only IDed as a "dog" or "protozoa" in game, quite clearly fits the description of a Cu Sith (pronounced "coo shee" of Scottish Mythology. In case you don't get it, it's supposed to rhyme (the English version of the game screwed it up.).
  • The end sequence music is the same tune used in the end sequence of Tales of Phantasia. This also happens with one of the battle themes as well. Fighting of the Spirit plays in this game and it's sequel Tales of Phantasia whenever you fight a summon spirit.
  • When you go to the night-time area of Altamira, you can see a stage play being performed by the Katz. For people who didn't get the joke, Cats is an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical.
  • The placement of the skits - the ones where you can choose a response which might affect your relationship with the character - seems to be mostly random. But the two skits outside Flanoir make so much sense. The two skits are with Zelos and Kratos. Flanoir is where you make the decision between keeping Zelos and or inviting Kratos back into your party. Kratos's skit is one where you must choose whether to talk to him or ignore him. That's the exact decision you make in Flanoir to keep him or not. In Zelos's skit, if you pick the positive response, Lloyd observes that Zelos is brooding more than usual, and Zelos seems really surprised by the fact that Lloyd might actually care. In Flanoir, Lloyd saying either "I trust you" or "I want you to live too, Zelos" - showing Zelos that he does care - is pretty much what keeps Zelos from committing Suicide by Cop. Additionally, Zelos more or less admits during the Flanoir scene that the snow reminds him of his mother's death. Perhaps that's why he's brooding outside Flanoir?
  • Considering how familiar Zelos was with Kratos and his motivations, as well as Zelos's heavy involvement with Cruxis it's entirely possible that the reason they have nearly identical fighting styles is because Kratos might've trained him at some point.
  • The Seal of Fire is said to be made out of polycarbonate, which can only really be made by our level of technology, as it's a type of plastic. It's the first hint that the Medieval Stasis game isn't just a setting trope. Another interesting hint comes from the rather futuristic teleporters that can be seen in the Renegade bases, the seal temples, and the Desian bases (and later the Tower of Salvation and Welgaia). At first glance, it appears to be a regular dungeon gameplay trope, but on closer inspection, its probably because the three groups have the same leaders and thus the same access to magitechnology.
  • At the beginning of the game, you can only buy gels that restore 30% of HP or TP. You can only start to buy the ones that restore 60% when you reach Meltokio. Why is this? Because gels restore life force and magic- basically, the body's mana. It's not unreasonable to assume that gels are made of or with mana. Sylvarant doesn't have enough mana to mass-produce these products! To add to that, there is actually one place in Sylvarant where 60%-restoring gels are available- Katz Island, which is only reachable after you've released all the seals and evened out the mana distribution a little. (Nobody but the Katz dared try to waste precious mana on creating so many things, as most people cannot sense subtle shifts in the mana flow. Also, if all of this is actually true within the setting, that means that the Katz could secretly be elves or half-elves.
  • Mithos' final form at the end of the game seems like a Giant Space Flea from Nowhere (especially since it just appears without a word from anyone,) but makes a little more sense if you remember the three boss fights preceding it representing the personal demons and Fatal Flaws of Lloyd's comrades, of which the final form is a fusion of all three. His personal demons have basically consumed him.
  • When you first visit the Tower of Salvation, the party is horrified by all the coffins in the entry room of the Tower. Raine even theorizes that this is where all the bodies of the failed Chosens are kept. Fast forward to later in the game, if you end with the path where Zelos performs a Suicide by Cop, with the claim his entire life was a mistake - guess where it all goes down.
  • Dwarven Vow #11: Lying is the first step down the path to thievery. Colette lies to Lloyd about her time of departure, she lies to the party about how the seals are taking her humanity bit by bit, she tells Lloyd she's fine when the Chronic Angelus Crystallus Inofficium kicks in after her Cruxis Crystal has a Key Crest... no wonder the perfect little angel learns Item Thief!
  • Visit an inn after opening the Seal of Water, and Kratos will notice that Colette can't sleep. He advises her to count the stars. "Although, a human life is far too short to count them all". Go on and try it; it's a good way to tucker yourself out. Except Kratos has seen this happen to Martel, he knows Colette is physically incapable of sleeping, he can guess that she has reasons for not bringing it up, and he's giving her both something to do in the extra time and a way to come across as inconspicuous.
  • During their third training session, Lloyd tells Kratos, "Even when I get to your age, I don't think I'll be as calm as you." Kratos simply responds with "Ah, I wouldn't be too sure of that." Because frankly, 4000+ years is a lot of time to get calm and collected.
  • Lloyd's Twin Blade sets all have a "Slash" stat and a "Thrust" stat. Most of his weapons lean towards one or the other, but the Material Blade and Nebilim both have equal values for both stats. Both sets are also mismatched, having one sword with an arced blade for slashing, and one sword that comes to a straight point for thrusting.

Fridge Horror
  • A lot of the Nightmare Fuel from Tales of Symphonia is this, owing to the game's brightly cel-shaded Crapsaccharine World... and the game has a lot of Nightmare Fuel.
  • More like "Fridge Tearjerker/Depressing", but...the cutscene where Yuan loses his engagement ring is mandatory. The sidequest where you return it is not. So presumably, if you don't do the sidequest, he still retraces his steps searching frantically for his precious keepsake, and never does manage to learn of its fate. Poor guy.
  • In the manga version of Zelos' backstory, when his mother is killed, the manga seems to draw it so it looks like his mother is Taking the Bullet for him. If you didn't already know what she was going to say next, this makes her Famous Last Words even more shocking and horrifying than they already were, since it looks like she's taken the bullet for Zelos, only for her to suddenly tell him "You should never have been born". THAT'S the Fridge Horror. The Brilliance is that, while Zelos' mother is saying her last words, she's smiling, although it's not a very pleasant one. It appears Zelos wasn't the only Stepford Smiler in the family...
  • Kilia, who is some form of shapeshifting monster that claims to be a half-elf. One, how did a half-elf get like that? Two, she took the place of Dorr's daughter, telling the party that he "didn't even notice that his own daughter was dead". So did Kilia kill a child simply to use as cover for her spying, or was Dorr so caught up in trying to save his wife that he neglected his daughter badly enough for her to die of some other cause? Either way, it's a pretty grim fate for a kid.

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