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Fridge: Super Natural
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  • Why is it that a human hybrid such as the Antichrist or Sam with demon blood are a lot stronger than their pure counterpart? Because humans have souls and their extra boost of power come from the energy harnessed in their own soul.
  • The symbol John uses in his summoning ritual for Yellow Eyes in "In My Time of Dying" is called the Sigil of Azazel. Guess what the YED's real name turned out to be, one season and three episodes later?
  • Another reason Chuck is God is that at the end of "The Real Ghostbusters" Chuck says that the first woman he had sex with went around saying "it didn't count". Immaculate conception, anyone?
    • I don't think immaculate conception means what you think it means....
      • To explain the above, it's a common misconception (excuse the pun) that "Immaculate conception" refers to the moment when Mary conceived Jesus... but instead, it actually refers to Mary's conception, because Catholic dogma holds that, since Mary was chosen to be Jesus' mother, she was conceived without original sin.
      • While that is true, I don't think it really changes the potential validity of the initial Fridge Brilliance. Even if it was mislabeled by the OP, there is still an incident that fits the bill.
  • Amusing note in "The Real Ghostbusters:" The revival of the books is due to a wealthy Scandinavian investor. Loki, anyone?
  • The last fairy tale to be reenacted in "Bedtime Stories" is Little Red Riding Hood, in which Dean saves a little girl in a red hood from her psychotic, granny-killing kidnapper. Because who saved Red in the original tale? A hunter.
  • "Lazarus Rising." Sam mentions that he tried to make a deal for Dean's soul, but the demons wouldn't do it. Why? Because a) it'd be suspicious for them to give him a better deal than Dean got, and b) it wouldn't do much good for Lucifer's true vessel to have hellhounds chasing him!
  • Why does Jessie the Antichrist speak and act like such an adult when Sam and Dean first meet him? One would assume that it was due to the fact that his parents work all the time, and therefore he has to look after himself, but also because anything the Antichrist believes becomes true. He thinks he is an adult, therefore he is one! Hence why his maturity level suddenly drops when he says to Sam "But I'm just a kid!" - he realizes he's just a child, cue sudden maturity decrease.
  • Why is the boys' dialogue so saturated with references? Because they were left alone in hotel rooms nearly 24/7 and had nothing better to do than watch whatever came on television.
  • In "All Hell Breaks Loose Part 2," Azazel, after telekinetically pinning Dean to the tombstone and mocking him, tries to shoot him with the last bullet in the Colt. Why would Azazel waste the last available usage (at that time) of such a powerful weapon on Dean, when he could easily have killed him any number of ways? It doesn't seem to make sense...until three seasons later, when we find out that Dean is the designated vessel for the Archangel Michael, and the angels will keep resurrecting him as often as he dies to make sure he's available to use. And at that point, you realize what Azazel was doing: Trying to destroy Michael's vessel with the one weapon that could do so with such finality that even Heaven's power couldn't resurrect him, thus guaranteeing Lucifer's victory from the get-go.
    • Or Azazel could have been eliminating his biggest threat. When Dean went back in time, he straight up told Azazel that he would be the one to kill him. That couldn't have made Azazel happy and it's no wonder he spends most of his time tormenting and trying to kill Dean.
    • Plus, by using the last bullet for the Colt, he was effectively elimiating a known threat to his existence. It's debatable whether Ruby's knife would have done him in, but as it stood at the time that bullet was just about the only thing that could straight-up kill him.
  • Ava's the villain? How did she survive that long without food and manage to hide all her victims....EWWWWWWWW!
  • While Sam and Dean's relationship is outright stated by Gabriel to mirror that of the archangels, the dialogue between Lucifer and Michael in the 5th season mimics the many arguments between Sam and Dean in Seasons 1 and 4: Michael is the obedient soldier who faults his brother for rebelling against their missing father, while Lucifer believes he is doing the only thing he can, following a bad road to stop something he sees as horrible, with little regard for everyone else involved.
    • Someone on tumblr also pointed out that there were a lot of similarities between Adam and Gabriel: "He was younger than both and he spent a great deal of time away from them, doing his own thing- his father was, uh, not so great at the whole ‘caring’ thing. He was pretty removed from the whole ‘dysfunctional family clusterfuck’; he kind of did his own thing for a while. When he eventually got dragged into his brothers fights, he initially did whatever he was told and was pro-apocalypse, but it was only because he thought it would bring him and his family peace. He eventually changed his mind and tried to fight against the angels and the apocalypse, but it… it didn’t end well. He died trying to take down Lucifer."
  • At first it seems odd that a soulless Sam would be having sex at every opportunity, considering his detatchment from anything else emotional...until you remember that sex is a biological imperitive. Without a soul, he'd actually want it more.
    • Don't forget that without a soul he wouldn't care about that pesky Cartwright Curse.
  • Trickster/Gabriel may have been killing Dean repeatedly so that Sam wouldn't be so easy for Ruby to manipulate, to stop the Apocalypse from even being put into motion as Sam wouldn't kill Lilith.
  • I thought that it was strange that no one had realized that a Trickster can fake their death, given how much Bobby knew about them... and then we find out that the Trickster is Gabriel, and most Tricksters probably can't pull off that feat. And then there's the fact that what will kill a Trickster won't kill an Angel.
  • If Chuck is God, means that when Chuck was apologizing for making them live bad writing, he was apologizing for their entire lives. And what was about to come.
  • Back in the season 2 episode "Croatoan," it turns out the whole thing was a test to see if Sam was immune to the Croatoan virus. In season 5, we find out Sam is Lucifer's vessel. A big part of Lucifer's endgame involves unleashing the Croatoan virus on the world. It sure would suck for Lucifer if his vessel got infected, wouldn't it?
    • One must wonder if Azazel's Children was all a big scam from the get-go - specifically to train Sam for when he would become Lucifer's Vessel. Why did Azazel want Sam to win so badly anyway?
      • I assume that neither he nor any of the demons knew that Sam was fated to be Lucifer's vessel—just the angels. All Azazel seemed to know was that he needed a "special child" as a vessel for Lucifer. He used Sam to test if the potential vessels in general were immune to Croatoan. As for why he favored Sam... the demon himself said it was because he had skills and knowledge, his actor said it was because he wanted to corrupt Sam's good nature, and I personally always kind of figured he wanted Sam evil to rub it in John and Dean's faces.
  • In the Season 6 finale, Castiel being one step ahead of Team Winchester is foreshadowing how he would manage to get one step in front of Crowley and Raphael.
  • Why was Sam such a jackass after losing his soul? It didn't really make sense that he would act the way he did: after all, even in S4, when he was high off demon blood, he still acted recognizably like Sam. But in "Swan Song", he drank GALLONS of demon blood, which Castiel once told Dean would change Sam into a monster! Of course he was a jackass, he was operating solely on demon-blood-fuel! Oh, Sam. Oh, Supernatural.
    • Except like Dean, his body was pulled out of Hell (or rather the Cage, good work on Castiel for pulling that off) and rebuilt on Earth. You'd figure he'd have cleaned all that crap out of his system.
  • At first, it seemed like a writer slip-up that Castiel wouldn't recognize that Christian Campbell was possessed, given that angels were already proven to be able to see the true faces of demons. But since both Castiel and Possessed!Christian were working for Crowley and Castiel most likely KNEW about the Campbell clan already, maybe this wasn't a mistake after all.
  • Why does Death eat cheap, fatty foods? It's not good for him; that stuff kills peop-oh. Ohhh.
  • Souls are a powerful energy source, and as of the Season 6 finale it appears that consuming enough souls turns you into a god. Perhaps that finally explains why the pagan gods are all into human sacrifices, even if they shouldn't be: because if souls go to Christian-esque Heaven or Hell when they die, not any of the pagan afterlives, perhaps it's the only way for the gods to get at human souls.
  • Adam. His name? A reference to his eventual role as Michael's (backup) vessel, seeing as how the archangel Michael is the original Adam's "guardian angel" in Christian mythos. His birthdate? September 29th - a day celebrating all angels, but most importantly the archangel Michael! The writers had the Adam-Michael connection planned out from his introduction!
  • Why didn't Mary remember Dean's warnings about getting out of bed on November 2, 1983 or Azazel telling her he'd come to her house in ten years in time? After all, you'd think a hunter would remember warnings like that, especially as the big day approaches and her deal comes due. Because Michael erases her memories in "The Song Remains the Same" - of the warnings and maybe even making the deal in the first place. Otherwise, she'd remember what was said and wouldn't get killed on the ceiling, John wouldn't take his kids on a crazy revenge mission, and the Apocalypse would be a no-go. It was only when she was face-to-face with the YED that she was allowed to remember.
    • Plus her not bringing calling the beefier John. She was probably more qualified to take on anything she ran into up there.
  • The Trickster/ Gabriel has to be one of the ultimate examples. His lesson to Sam in "Mystery Spot" becomes a lot clearer after "Changing Channels" and "Hammer of the Gods". He knew that Sam would end up breaking the final seal and by killing Dean again and again, he forced Sam to accept that Dean is going to die and that there's nothing he can do about it, stopping Sam from going as axe crazy as he did in Mystery Spot and delaying Lucifer's release from the cage. All because he didn't want to see his brothers fight, didn't want to have to choose a side...
    • Speaking of "Mystery Spot," I'd always wondered how the Trickster did all that when earlier his powers had seemed to consist only of creating figments. Then, later, after I'd gotten through Season Five, it became clear: after all, what powers were necessary to create Sam's "Groundhog Day" Loop? Time travel, memory erasure, and the ability to bring people back from the dead. All powers later established as belonging not to a trickster, but to an angel.
  • I hated the first episode of Supernatural's third season because Dean was acting like a Jerkass/pod!version of his former self. It wasn't until Fresh Blood and the beautiful brotherly love scenes that I realized he was supposed to be like that. Sam's getting frustrated beyond belief, we're supposed to sympathize with him and we couldn't do that if Dean was acting like his normal self. And it wasn't until the finale when I realized that Dean was being a lying liar that lies when he said he was feeling good about everything, his unbelievably messed up state was just coming out in a different way than what I was used to. —Tinted
    • Rewatching that episode (and, to a lesser extent - Bedtime Stories and Red Sky At Morning), Dean is much less jerkier and far more creepier than I remember. In the manic moments, he's all ducky-lipped and bambi-eyed but that's just surface. Look underneath and there's nothing there. He still doesn't think he deserves to live, he's trying to get Sam to hate him/move on/forget about saving him and when he makes that "I'll think I'll play craps" line in "Red Sky At Morning", he's got a big smile but completely dead eyes. And it's only when Sam plays the little brother/it's all about me card in "Fresh Blood" that he gets a tiny bit better and starts opening up more. I still don't like watching it all that much, but I can begrudgingly admit that was very clever of them. Bastards. —VAD
  • So I'm watching "Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things" and I'm getting annoyed with the "What's dead should stay dead" anvil, right? I'm like "I get it! Dean hates the supernatural, now stop it." Fast forward to "All Hell Breaks Loose" and suddenly it hits me: when Dean says "What's dead should stay dead", he really means "If I'm dead, I should stay dead". Stupid me. Clever show. Poor Dean. —RampampG
  • Rewatching all the current seasons (1-4), I really have to wonder how much foreshadowing Kripke et al were doing. In "Faith", LeGrange tells Dean he stood out to him in the crowd, and calls him a "young man with an important purpose. A job to do. And it isn't finished." Cue me freaking out. Season 4 in itself was a masterwork of foreshadowing. — Lizimajig
  • I always did love the parallelism of Sam and Dean. How Sam in the first season was portrayed as emotional and Dean was more of the tougher guy. Then came Season 4 and their roles were switched around. Dean was the emotional one and Sam was the tough guy. In "Houses of the Holy", in the beginning, Sam was adamant about the existence of angels, while Dean was skeptical. By the end of the episode, Dean was beginning to believe, while Sam doubted. Also Dean was the one to break the first seal, while Sam was the one to break the last seal. Not to mention that Dean slept with an angel and Sam slept with a demon. The last one interestingly played out their roles for the final battle. Dean is Michael's vessel and Sam is Lucifer's vessel.
  • After Anna became an angel again, I never really gave much thought about how cold and emotionless she became. It was a nice call-back how when she was human, she mentioned that angels don't have emotions, which was probably why she became human in the first place. And yet, contrasting that, we have Castiel, who had started out as emotionless, but slowly became more human, as opposite to Anna.
    • On that same thought, I was really annoyed at the end of Season Five when God brought Cas back and restored his angelic powers and he was so cold to Dean when he said goodbye. Two years of humanization and character development thrown out the window. Then I realized he was a fully empowered angel again, so of course he wouldn't be as human.
  • In the very first episode, when Mary sees that her husband has fallen asleep in front of the TV, she realizes that someone else must be in the nursery and hurls herself upstairs to protect her baby. Now, you'd think even a Mama Bear would take a second to alert her husband (especially one as beefy as John) before confronting an intruder. But in season four, we learn she was actually a hunter before John was, so she may have been even more capable than him of taking on whatever was up there.
    • This makes even more sense once you realize that she knew the Yellow-Eyed Demon and was the one who invited him into their house in the first place. She knew who it was and she didn't want John involved (again).
  • Even though I love the character of Castiel, I was always a little bothered by how whenever he died he'd just magically come back to life with only the tiniest handwave of "God must like him". Given how apathetic we've been told God is, I just couldn't buy that reason. Then after watching the season 5 finale, we find out that God is Chuck! And then it all clicks: when Cas first met Chuck, he told him that he was a huge fan of the books, and then later Cas died trying to 'protect' Chuck. Cas is a fanboy of Chuck without knowing that makes him a fan of his own Father! Of course God's gonna bring Cas back to life every time he dies! —WanderingRaccoon
    • Even better than that is Chuck's archangel is Raphael, who believes that God is dead. So the Chuck is God revealed means that Raphael has actually been in the presence of God the entire time, but was too dense to realize it.
      • Or, possibly, that Raphael was telling them that God was dead because he knew that Chuck was God, and was in fact in on it all along.
    • The revelation that Chuck is God also makes the scene where Zachariah, an angel, threatens to kill Chuck (and bring him back, naturally) amusing. The idea that Chuck/God is helpless against Zachariah, who isn't even an archangel... and Chuck's taking it. It's funny.
      • He must have been somewhat irritated by Zach's threats, since he planned Zach's death.
    • In the Season 4 finale, Castiel has betrayed the Heavenly Host to throw his support with the brothers and thus the rest of humanity. After Chuck gives him and Dean Sam's location and Castiel teleports Dean there, Chuck puts his hand on Castiel's shoulder as they wait for Raphael to come a-smitin'. First viewing? Crowning Moment of Funny. Second viewing? God-as-Chuck showing pride in his son for choosing his own path, using free will, and doing the right thing.
  • I was a bit irritated by how Castiel just disappeared on Dean in Swan Song until I realized that he seemed amused by Dean's question about him being God, and didn't seem as cold as he had originally. He seems to be a personification of how Heaven in going to become. Hopefully.
  • When Sam became soulless, he switched his sidearm to a MK-23 instead of his usual Taurus. At first, I thought that it was just cause Dean had it in the Impala, but then I noticed that I had seen the MK-23 twice before, first as Gordon's sidearm then as Future Dean's sidearm. Thus the MK-23 is only used by very dark characters. Brilliant!
  • It's a fairly small thing, but there is a moment like this in the first ten minutes of the series; we witness the flashback to Mary's death, skip twenty years, and rejoin an adult Sam disapprovingly telling his costumed girlfriend "...you know how I feel about Halloween". At the time, with no knowledge of the characters, it simply seems as if we're supposed to believe that Sam has developed into a studious nerd with no sense of fun; however, look back on that moment with the Winchester boys' miserable, joyless, monster-filled upbringing in mind, remembering that Sam had only escaped from the hunting life a few years before we see him in college, and that line becomes a lot more tragic.
    • Add on that Mary died on November 2. I can only imagine John wasn't too happy to celebrate Halloween 2 days before the anniversary of his wife's death.
  • Remember how Castiel spent most of "Caged Heat" watching hotel porn and how easily Meg disarmed him? Or perhaps how he just happened across Crowley's bones? At the time, I dismissed Cas' behavior as behavior of a soldier on "leave" from a war zone and the bones with Cas just being awesome. However, based on the Cas/Crowley unholy alliance and the revelation that Cas, not Crowley, brought Sam back from the pit, Cas's sudden interest in porn, ease with which Meg disarmed him, and the Cas/Crowley burning bones conversation takes on extra meaning.
    • Explain please?
      • Cas was falling from grace and working with the forces of hell
  • Sam and Dean's Christmas mundane presents to one another in Season 3 both have deeper meanings. Dean gets Sam porn and shaving cream, just the sort of thing an older brother would get a younger brother as they reach puberty, a way of congratulating them on growing up and "becoming a man." Dean is recognizing that Sam's growing up and that he has to in order to survive once Dean is gone. Sam gets Dean a candy bar and car oil, as Dean puts it, "fuel for me and fuel for my baby." Sam's telling Dean to take care of himself and keep going, they'll find a way to save him.
    • Speaking of that Christmas special, being a troper who actually lives in the metro-Detroit area (where Ypsilanti is nearby), I cracked up upon the revelation that the sacrifices commenced by the pagan gods resulted in mild weather - in Michigan, the land of OCD weather. It made TOTAL sense afterward (never mind that the show is filmed in British Columbia), but just to bring this point home, the year that this episode aired, 2007, we had a freak thunderstorm that resulted in a mild 58-60 degree day on freaking Christmas Eve. No joke. Coincidence??? At least my Christmas was a blast that year.
  • Why does everyone around Sam and Dean [including Castiel and possibly Bobby) seem to die? Death has shown Dean that people who were supposed to die either coming back to life or not dying throws off the natural order and people around the person who should be dead will keep dying off until the original person is dead. And Sam and Dean have come back from the dead repeatedly.
  • When YED was taunting Dean about having killed his family he wasn't just talking about Mary, but also her parents and the rest of the Campbell relatives. Actually, one could argue that YED's fixation on tormenting Dean stemmed from Future!Dean telling Past!YED that he killed him. Methinks ol' Yellow Eyes might have been a tad irritated by that...
  • The covers for the DVDs. At first, the spot on the side where the season number is shown is a bright, colorful red. Then as the show progresses, it gets darker, and so do the season number spots. Right up to six, where it is completely black, reflecting the serious Downer Ending. —UmLovely
  • When the demon Crowley (who has an English accent) meets Dean, he says something along the lines of "fancy a fag and a chat". Later we find out that Crowley is in fact Scottish, making this also an instance of Getting Crap Past the Radar.
    • Eh... Fag means cigarette in Scotland, as it does in England. Very few Scottish people ever use "fag" in reference to a gay person. We have our own slang words for that. Thus, this is probably not Getting Crap Past The Rader.
    • Speaking of Crowley, he is introduced as the demon Bela gave the Colt to. It seems a blatant Retcon to allow the Winchesters to get the kill-anything gun back to fight Lucifer... but consider it from Lilith's point of view. Here's a human who's already been established as untrustworthy and out for herself, one who's allied with the brothers before and might do it again. She has a weapon that can kill you and you hold the contract to her eternal damnation. Now, it's very possible that she'll want to just shoot you, kill you, and thus save both herself and El Deano. With that in mind, would you go out to meet her to gain said gun... or would you send a flunky?
      • And what makes the above true Fridge Brilliance is that it explains why Crowley shot the two demons with him when he meets Dean and Sam — they were Lilith's minions, watching over Crowley to make certain he turned over the Colt to her boss, Lucifer!
    • The crossroads demon Sam intimidates and kills in "Bedtime Stories" mentions a "boss" and refers to said boss as a "he". This seems strange since Lilith is the big kahoona and is later said to hold deal contracts. Could this boss possibly be an early mention of Crowley, King of the Crossroads, later throwing his lot in with Lilith (giving her control of crossroad deals) when she gains sufficient power and influence?
      • Alternatively, Lilith wasn't showing her face quite yet, acting through Crowley.
  • When Castiel continues to work with Crowley and eventually absorbs the souls of Purgatory despite the Winchesters begging him not to, one motivation that is cited by fans is that they didn't give him enough support over the seasons and instead just used him whenever they needed Superman's help. But it's so much more than that, because in essence, he does it because that is how the hunters taught him to do it, time and again, with their attitude to personal power, their treatment of it as ultimately a good thing. Their dad sacrifices his soul to save Dean, Dean does the same for Sam, Sam admits that he tried to do the same for Dean. Sam works with Ruby and goes crazy and drinks demon blood and unleashes Lucifer. Bobby sells his soul to Crowley - not to save someone who is in immediate danger, but for a strategic ace, i.e. Death's location, and of course they all work with Crowley in that, as well. Dean all but gives in to Michael and likely would have if Cas hadn't physically stopped him. Sam gives in to Lucifer hoping to be able to control himself despite the literally apocalyptic level of consequences if he screws up. Sam tries to hold on to his soullessness partially for the reason that it makes him "a better hunter", i.e. more powerful. When Dean is turned into a vampire, he chooses to try and use his now superior powers against the vampires and go after them instead of staying put to minimise the chance of feeding and becoming a crazy monster. When Sam and Dean are in the past, trying to procure the phoenix ashes, Bobby lets Castiel power up from his soul, despite how dangerous it is. The point is that whenever there's a choice between crossing a line and ending up with no solution to the current crisis, the Winchesters & Co. have always, without exception, been willing to hop straight across, no matter how great the consequences of failure and how much they have to go behind each other's backs to do it. And the worst part is that, by the end of Season 6, it really has worked out fine, in the grand scheme of things. Conversely, every time Castiel is depowered or drained either in Season 5 or 6, he is expected to try and get his mojo back as soon as possible, and mocked viciously for his powerlessness not just by the Monster of the Week (Lucifer, Meg, Famine, Eve etc.) but by the Winchesters ("baby in a trenchcoat", anyone?), who also throw hissy fits whenever he's not there to help them when they need it, even at great personal cost (e.g. nearly dying by zapping them both back in time to stop Anna), and praise him for his merits as a monster-killing machine. ("Gotta take you on more monster hunts".) In short, they've taught him that his only worth lies in being powerful enough to help them, and that any means is acceptable for the end of procuring power, and if anything goes wrong it will end up fine in the end and they'll forgive him because he's family. With that in mind, it's suddenly a lot clearer why their unthinking condemnation of his plan with Crowley and their subsequent turning against him bewilders him so much. It also proves, to him, that they really aren't family, otherwise they'd trust him and go along with him just as they've always done in such situations.
  • "The righteous man who begins it is the only one who can finish it." Does it refer to Dean... or Sam breaking the last seal and later stopping the Apocalypse by jumping into Hell with Lucifer and Michael?
  • Why is Charlie, a proud Geek and lover of all Badass heroines, so reluctant to join the Winchester brothers and at the end of the episode leaves it all behind to hide? She's Genre Savvy enough to know that she's not an Action Girl or even a main character and will most likely be Stuffed In A Fridge if she stays with the heroes.
  • YMMV, but it just occured to me. The Leviathans as characters might have seemed to come out of nowhere to some fans, but some biblical lore talks about some fallen angels/demons that are so terrible that they were locked away in a bottomless pit. What is Purgatory? A place that God created to keep the Leviathans from wreaking havoc on the world. Just substitute the fallen angels/demons for Leviathans, and give the bottomless pit the name "Purgatory".
  • Why did Crowley spend so much time going over his contract with Dick? He was giving the Winchester brothers more time to get everything they needed, since Dick's plans were quickly coming to fruition.
  • YMMV As I was reading the Odd Name Out examples, I came across this one: "The demons in Supernatural all have classical demonic names (Azazel, Lilith, even Alastair), with the exceptions of Ruby, Crowley and Meg, who all end up allying with the protagonists against their own kind." But Crowley can't be called a "normal" name. Meg isn't the demon's real name...And then there is Ruby. What if it isn't her name either? She just called herself Ruby so that she could connect better with Sam? Yeah, other demons call her that, but why wouldn't they? They may know her by her "old" name, but what is the point of calling someone by a name they no longer go by and probably won't respond to?
    • Crowley is a name associated with the occult via Aleister Crowley, but more specifically, Crowley was the name of the demon in Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett's Good Omens (coincidentally enough, it's about the demon Crowley and the angel Aziraphale teaming up to prevent the Apocalypse because they're both so used to life on Earth). And Rubicante is one of the demons mentioned in Dante's Inferno.
  • It just now struck me that the Winchester brothers really do reflect the Biblical Cain and Abel and Seth ridiculously well: Seth is born to be a Replacement Goldfish for Abel after his big brother gets killed by Cain, Adam replaces Dean as Michael's vessel after Sam talks their big brother out of it.
  • Borax is revealed to be lethal to Leviathans. Interestingly, this might be one of the reasons why the Leviathans targeted America first, since in addition to being used in some bleaches, it's also commonly used as a food additive in every country except America. So in other words, the rest of the world is literally Too Spicy for Yog Sothoth!
  • It recently occurred to me that Castiel's "death" and the circumstances surrounding it at the beginning of Season 7 are very reminiscent of being born-again. Throughout Season 6, Castiel slowly built up to a Face-Heel Turn, which culminated in him declaring himself to be the new God, slaying hundreds of his brothers in Heaven, and falling under the influence of the Leviathans. After he sees the damage that his "sins" have caused, he wants to repent - so he discharges the souls that he absorbed back into Purgatory. However, this does not complete the process, and he is not fully cleansed, because the Leviathans are still writhing inside of him. Only once Castiel submerges himself into a nearby reservoir is he purged of his inner evil, at which point the Leviathans disperse. After that, he loses his memory and essentially becomes a new man: Emmanuel, who is faithful and heals people in the name of God. The episode in which he finally returns is even called "The Born-Again Identity".
    • In support of this theory, from a literature standpoint, people being submerged in water generally means baptism, a religious rebirth. May signal the change in personality that isn't totally fixed until the end of season 8 as baptisms are often tied to becoming a new person.
  • The Trickster spent his time punishing arrogant, prideful dicks. Maybe Gabriel was projecting his problems with his big brother Lucifer onto his victims?
  • While there are some legitimate complaints about how the Leviathans really seem lacking in power, there's a very sensible explanation for why Dick can't detect Bobby's ghost. Leviathans were invented before souls, and ghosts are essentially just a form of the soul. Since god hadn't thought up souls yet, he certainly wouldn't have imbued Leviathans with the ability to interact with them.
    • As an addendum to the above, Leviathans are strictly physical beings, just like humans. They can't interact with spectral entities unless said entity is occupying a physical vessel of some kind, which is why Edgar was able to slaughter the two angels in "Reading Is Fundamental".
      • Well they're not strictly physical, seeing as how they have to possess a vessel just like angels and demons...
  • Sam becoming the one to complete the trials in order to close the gates of Hell. He was one of Azazel's chosen children who were needed to open the Gates of Hell in the first place. Granted, he was not the one who opened the gates himself, but he is also the one who brought about the Apocalypse by breaking the final seal. Closing the Gates of Hell is, in a sense, the ultimate atonement for Sam as an individual.
    • Plus he's always been the Hell-affiliated brother. Banged a demon, one of the Special Children, ex-demon blood junkie, Lucifer's vessel... In contrast, Dean shagged an angel, is close friends with another, and is Michael's vessel. Which is why it came as such a surprise when Cass got the trials to close Heaven instead of Dean. But since it turns out that those weren't the real trials, perhaps Dean will get a new storyline sooner or later?
  • Given that we find out later that Mary Winchester was a hunter, why wasn't it mentioned in Dean's hallucination in "What Is and What Should Never Be"? Because everything in there was based off of what the Djinn found in Dean's mind, and he didn't know at the time.
  • Elsewhere in this wiki, the appearance of prophets and Fates is taken to mean that the Supernatural universe falls under the purview of You Can't Fight Fate. Actually, it's exactly the opposite—if fate was an intrinsic law of the universe (the only situation where it cannot be fought) it wouldn't need sapient beings, i.e. the Fates, to enforce it. This is why Kevin's prophecies are limited to interpreting the word of God—there is no set future to read. The reason Chuck could see the future is simply that he is God, and was thus controlling the events. Fate isn't fate in the Supernatural universe—it's orders. Thus, Team Free Will's choice to Screw Destiny is the final step out from under the authority of their respective oppressive fathers.
  • In "My Bloody Valentine," Famine claims that Dean is immune to his power because he's supposedly dead inside. But Dean's behavior is erratic throughout the episode—he's much clingier than usual, even going so far as to chase after Cas because he felt that ten or so seconds was "too long" for Cas to take to come back to him. Famine lied in order to push Dean closer to the Despair Event Horizon. Dean is hungry for something—and, in keeping with his characterization, it's companionship.
    • Although with Cas's Flash Step powers, he could have zapped in, sliced off Famine's hand, and been back with the bloody stump in seconds.
    • Earlier, when Castiel asks Dean what his hunger is, Dean appears to give him the old elevator eyes, a look of desire.
  • Early in Season 4 after the rising of the witnesses, Castiel mentions that two of his brothers have fallen in battle in defense of the seals. This doesn't seem like a big deal until later, when a) you find out that Alistair, who knows how to kill or torture just about anything, has no idea how to kill an angel and can only send them back to heaven, and b) the upper division angels want the seals to break. As Zachariah says, there's no way the seals would have broken without their quiet consent (and in this case, possible intervention to help break the seal).
  • In "The Great Escapist" we find out that Castiel has never completely followed orders he didn't agree with, and he kept getting reset with his memory wiped whenever he rebelled. Suddenly Castiel's complete lack of knowledge of pop culture, especially when compared to the other angels, makes a lot more sense; if he's always getting his memory wiped he'd keep forgetting all the cultural knowledge he'd learned, unless it was deemed relevant.
  • In "Hammer of the Gods" Lucifer buzzsaws his way through numerous pagan gods. Doesn't quite make sense if a deity's power comes from prayers, as some have theorized. Hinduism is still relatively popular in parts of the world, as opposed to Norse beliefs. Then one remembers that Lucifer was apparently consuming "gallons" of demon blood each day just to keep Nick (his vessel played by Mark Pellegrino) from exploding. He was able to bulldoze through them so easily because (aside from the regular archangel abilities) he was hopped up on enough demon blood to kill and preserve a whale.
    • It just occurred to me that this might be the reason why Meg used telekinesis to toss Dean and Bobby around in "Born Under a Bad Sign", even though she never demonstrated (heh, sorry) the power before or since—she was possessing the body of demon-blood-infected Sam, who shows telekinetic powers in Season 1 and Season 4. Imagine what she (or any demon, or Lucifer) could do with his powers post-Season 4...
  • A few people criticized the special effects in the show, such as dragons looking pretty much the same as humans. Then you realize that the basic monsters in the show only exist because of Eve, and she doesn't create from nothing, she simply corrupts other things. The Alphas? People she corrupted, some of the earliest humans.
  • There have been...complaints about the quality of the story since the end of Season 5. Mainly how the story has gone eight-ways-bananas. Well, obviously it has, God isn't writing the story anymore! The boys "tore up the script and burned the pages for everyone," so now people are just doing random things.
  • Bobby is often critical of John, and they seem to have fought almost as much as Sam and John. Since Bobby had an abusive father and a mother who didn't do anything to stop it, he would be very sensitive about bad parenting, wouldn't he? He might have even seen himself in Sam and Dean.
  • The Men of Letters' bunker is said to be warded against pretty much every supernatural creature out there, so at first it seems funny that Castiel is able to come in. But then you realize that the bunker looks like it was built in the 30s, and, prior to Sam and Dean and the Apocalypse, angels hadn't walked on Earth in 2000 years. Even if the Men of Letters knew about angels, it would've been unnecessary to ward against them since at the time, they never left Heaven.
  • When Dean is complaining that Sam took a year off to live with a girl at the start of season 8, why does Sam not mention that Dean did the exact same thing with Lisa a few years earlier? Because in 6x21 Dean told Sam never to mention Lisa or Ben again. Sam is keeping his word, even though it would actually help his own case to bring it up.
    • Or there's the fact that Dean settling down with Lisa and Ben was Sam's dying wish and that Dean would rather have died finding a way to save Sam but decided to keep his promise to him...
    • And that at the end of Season 5, there were (ostensibly) no real enemies left that Dean needed to handle himself. Leave Crowley and co. to the angels. Go retire. At the end of Season 7, Crowley's at the height of his power and Sam is virtually all there is against them, and Kevin was depending on him - and only him, nobody else that was still alive and not in Crowley's custody knew about Kevin - for rescue.
  • The snafu with Sam's soul in Season 6 makes a little more sense when you think about the exact circumstances. Sure, Sam was in the Cage as opposed to Hell, but more importantly, he had a frigging archangel clinging to his soul. Death was probably the only entity that could yank Lucifer off and pull Sam's glowy bits out of the Cage.
  • The three trials to close the gates of hell are, in order: Bathe in the blood of a hellhound, rescue an innocent soul from hell, and cure a demon. The three trials to close the gates of heaven are different: the heart of a nephilim, a cupid's bow, and the grace of an angel who has completed the first two. Notice the difference? The trials for the gates of hell are actually trials. The trials for the gates of heaven are ingredients. Ingredients for the spell to make all angels in heaven fall.
  • Anna's bizarre Face-Heel Turn makes a bit more sense once you factor in Naomi mucking around in the heads of all the angels. Presumably she was acting without orders from higher up in an attempt to stop the apocalypse.
  • People say Michael was talking out his ass about how it was Destiny that Dean would eventually say yes, but remember in "Point of No Return" Dean did technically agree to be his vessel.
  • "My Heart Will Go On" suggests that Balthazar preventing the sinking of the Titanic would have prevented Celine Dion from ever having a career in music. However, she'd already had several hit singles and sold millions of albums in both French and English. Yes, it was her biggest hit but that doesn't mean that she wouldn't have had others, or that the song wouldn't have become a hit perhaps due to being used in some other context.
  • Meg's death and Castiel becoming human in season 8 were a bit of a shocker to some, but it makes sense. Shutting the gates of Hell apparently would banish every demon from the face of the earth back to Hell, which would send the vaguely-good Meg back to an almost certain eternity of torture. Shutting Heaven up tight would lock Castiel in with a whole lot of angels who want to kill him. Removing them from the chessboard avoids sending them to their deaths.
    • People might've gotten over Meg being tortured in hell for eternity (I mean, what's Adam up to these days?), but here's the thing: If Meg had stayed alive, her attraction to Castiel and Enemy Mine with the Winchesters would've kept her close to Team Free Will, in which case, it's not at all a stretch to suppose she would *volunteer* to be the demon cured, and that would just be too easy.
  • Probably a WMG but it's hilarious if true: At the end of "The Real Ghostbusters", Dean finds out that the Sam and Dean cosplayers were a gay couple which makes him rather uncomfortable. He's not weirded out because they were gay, he's weirded out because he remembered that Sam-Dean slash fiction is a real thing (mentioned in the prequel episode).
  • In "Heaven Can't Wait", Crowley refuses to use Sam's blood to contact Abaddon or to inject himself, instead making Kevin... erm, "donate." What's the big deal? He's already got some of Sam's blood inside him and it's not like it makes a difference whether it's Sam or Kevin. Except it does, because Sam is currently possessed by an angel and thus has angel blood. We don't know if angel blood will work for the goblet of blood demons use to communicate, but Crowley definitely wouldn't want to inject angel blood into him or else he'd be one sorry little demon. Verges into Wild Mass Guessing territory but might this mean that Crowley knows somehow about Ezekiel, or at least suspects something's wrong with Sam?
    • He must have at least suspected - last he saw, Sam looked to be falling apart at the seams, so him suddenly being back in apparently good health meant that something was up.
  • Lucifer's first vessel was named Nick. Traditionally in Scotland, Lucifer or Satan is also known as Auld Nick.
  • At first Sam's inability to fully use his demon powers seems like a plot hole to keep him becoming all powerful and kicking off his addiction to demon blood. He tries so hard yet only gets visions and some shaky telekinesis while others like Jake and Ava get the whole spectrum barely trying. Until season 4 where we learn that demons were originally humans tortured in Hell for so long that they enjoyed the pain and inflicting it on others. Ava and Jake got all their powers because they gave into the demon blood and started enjoying hurting people while Sam always used his powers to help people so had to struggle against the nature of his abilities to get them to work.
  • In the early seasons, it seems like the boys are heading straight for a case of Dented Iron if they even survive that long. With the broken bones, gunshot wounds, concussions, and numerous other injuries, the scar tissue has to be piling up...but then, the angels enter the picture, and upon his first angel-based resurrection Dean notes that his scars and other injuries have been wiped clean, which is why a) the makeup crew doesn't have to worry about making sure all the scars are in the right place if they're healed up every so often and b) Sam and Dean don't have to worry as much about keeping themselves from getting injured.
  • Some fans of scratched their heads as to how pagan deities from polytheistic religions can contradictorily co-exist with the Abrahamic God, especially when the writers have made it clear that the pagan gods are not simply angels (With the exception of Gabriel going by the alias of Loki) and demons masquerading as gods. It begins to make sense when one considers the concept of Monolatrism. For added Fridge Brilliance, when watching the Season 5 episode "Hammer of the Gods", keep this verse (Jeremiah 10:11) in mind: "Tell them this: 'These gods, who did not make the heavens and the earth, will perish from the earth and from under the heavens.'" - Jesse MB 27
  • Gabriel didn't believe that the boys could stop the Apocalypse because he refused to see past the parallels between Michael and Lucifer and Dean and Sam. The angels are parallels, yeah, but only to the earlier versions of the boys. Once Dean manages to move past his father's orders and step out from under his authority, the comparison breaks down, which is why Gabriel and every other angel or archangel that thinks that the Apocalypse has to happen is dead wrong. Sam accepts responsibility for what he's done, Dean is determined to Take a Third Option rather than just kill Sam like Michael is willing to do to Lucifer, who steadfastly refuses to believe that he's at fault. The angels were right, the boys were born to their roles, but they were wrong about whether they still fit the part.
  • The way Dean pulls his war buddy Benny out of Purgatory, by absorbing his soul into his forearm. They're brothers-in-arms.

    Fridge Horror 
  • Sam and Jess had a lot of friends at Stanford. Think about them along with Jess's parents after her death. Yes, it was an accidental fire. But Sam went off with a mysterious brother that weekend, and a few years later, he was put on the FBI's most wanted list. They thought that a person they cared for deeply, a person they believed to be quiet and normal, was a murderer.
  • Possibly one of the worst bits of fridge horror is the fact that Sam and Dean don't even bother to exorcise demons anymore. Ever since acquiring the Ruby knife in "No Rest for the Wicked", they've begun simply stabbing every demon they see. This means that they've been consistently killing the innocent people that were possessed since late season 3. This fact is never really mentioned and they seem to show no remorse; unlike when Dean first killed an innocent person possessed by a demon in season 1 with the colt, in which he reacted as being horrified at what he was willing to do to protect Sam and his dad. The innocent person death toll can be 10 or higher in a demon-heavy episode.
    • Possibly because the demons usually come two or three at a time now, and they lack the time to stick each one under a devil's trap and exorcise them.
    • It's been shown that the damage a body receives while possessed remains even after the demon is gone (I can't remember what episode this was in). As the Winchesters were considered hunter elite, it stands to reason that most of the demons they go up against are fairly violent and so their meatsuits are well battered. The possessed might not survive long anyway after the demon leaves their body.
      • The episode is 1x22 "Devil's Trap" when the boys exorcise Meg for the first time. She says that she's been thrown out a window, etc etc and that the girl she possessed would die if she was exorcized (in an attempt to use an innocent as a meat shield). True to her word, the girl dies shortly after being freed from Meg's possession.
  • "Simon Said" deals with a nice guy who can persuade people to do anything. The first time the brothers see him, he's walking out of a building and a barely-dressed, beautiful young woman waves out of the window at him. Rape by brainwashing, anyone?
  • "All Hell Breaks Loose, Part 1". The idea that the demon(s) may have gone in the Roadhouse and tortured the hunters inside for kicks before burning it to the ground, since we don't really know how it happened...
    • Not necessarily. Ellen escaped because she was out getting pretzels. She said she couldn't have been gone for more than fifteen minutes, so the good news is the people inside probably weren't tortured. Just brutally murdered.
  • All of those innocent people who took the fall for the various murders carried out by demons and skinwalkers and other supernatural monsters? Yeah, you can bet your ass that they went straight to prison. Or, depending on capital punishment laws in the state they live in...
  • Adam doesn't seem to have been revived from Hell with Sam. So one can assume he will be in Hell with two archangels until the end of time, which, coincidentally, will take 120 times longer than it would if he were in Heaven or Earth.
    • But since we don't know who or what pulled Sam out, we can assume he might have gotten out too. If not can you imagine the family reunion if he were to get out?
      • As of recent revelations we know who pulled Sam out. And it seems that Adam is still in the cage.
      • And so is Sam's soul. With a bored and frustrated Michael and Lucifer.
      • Sam's soul's out, but Adam's still down there. Even after Dean was offered the chance to get him out. Although he had to choose between Adam and Sam.
      • Though considering Adam didn't really have anything to do with the Apocalypse being averted, he may be spared the same torture Sam went through, at least on Michael's part.
      • Except Michael has shown total apathy and implied disdain for pretty much everyone else on the show. He vaporized Anna without a second thought, and actually appeared to enjoy it. He might not partake in torturing Adam himself, but he's most likely not going to try to stop Lucifer.
      • Worse, even if both Lucifer and Michael leave Adam alone, the kid is stuck in the Cage with two archangels who have a deathmatch that may or may not have been postponed. Even if he's not being actively tortured by them, he's still stuck in the crossfire.
      • It's possible Adam was dead long before the Season 5 finale. Considering he wasn't Michael's actual vessel, and considering what Raphael did to his vessel, it's entirely possible that Adam's soul was pushed out of his body. Michael did say something along the lines of "Adam's not in here anymore".
  • In "Sam, Interrupted" the committed hunter friend is now believed to be the one who killed the monster disguised as a patient. His fate is never mentioned again. Could the doctors do something to him before the cops are called?
    • As of season 8, he's been mentioned again. Turns out he was discharged but wasn't too stable, and Benny killed him in self-defense.
  • See Rape as Drama here.
  • Dean compares Heaven to the Matrix because it's a constructed reality run by the angels. In Season 6, with the revelation that souls are an energy source, it becomes even more like the Matrix.
  • The "happy" ending of the episode about the haunted hotel shows the ghost girl and recently deceased elderly sister together in each other's company. The unhappiness comes out of the fact that unless they're put to rest, they're gonna go crazy and start killing people in a few decades, as pointed out in the season 2 opening episode. And some for Fridge Horror: remember the victims of the week who they save from the monsters? Not everyone's gonna go along with the world being populated with evil monsters. More than likely every one either went insane, killed themselves or terrified of ever leaving the house. And the fact that they'll never know for sure how to kill a monster without the help of other hunters means they'll make a mistake and end up being killed among other problems they'll have.
    • Considering how violent the demons were, that nearly everybody who had been possessed by a demon is likely to be implicated in various violent criminal acts, including lots of murder. Their fingerprints and DNA would be over all sorts of crime scenes, and there would be witnesses. The choice would often be to go into hiding, or face life imprisonment or death by execution, and either way your life and the lives of your family would be utterly destroyed. Dying of demon related injuries might be seen as the easier option.
      • Angelic possession could be almost as bad since angels are freer from human concerns like covering up after themselves. At the best, angelic vessels and prophets would most likely populate mental wards for years after their last interaction.
      • Pretty much stated to be the case in "Free to Be You and Me" - Raphael's vessel is catatonic after being initially possessed by him. And then he is possessed by him again so that Raphael can jump-start the apocalypse.
      • Plus, it's usually pretty horrifying when the angels and demons engage in sexual activity. The humans whose bodies they are wearing are effectively paralyzed, at least partially conscious and most likely have little to no say in what is happening to their bodies. Maybe some of them don't mind it overly, but the whole thing seems a lot closer to rape than consensual sex.
  • The people who were turned into fairytale monsters by the comatose girl. Especially the old lady in the woods, who was as far as we know a genuinely nice person before she got whammied into being a murderous "witch". And what about her family, who will never know the truth?
  • In "I Believe the Children Are Our Future," we get to see what happens to a woman after a demon took over her body and gave birth to its spawn.
  • When Lilith was about to make a deal with Sam, she said that it, "takes more than a kiss to make a deal with her", and pats the bed seductively. Didn't a rather young Bela make a deal with Lilith? ...Oh.
    • Actually, no. Lilith was sealed in hell until the events of the show. Lilith, however, held her contract. Think of the average crossroads demon as a salesperson, trying to sell you talent/fame/success/whatever for the cost of your soul. So a minion of Lilith made a deal with the young Bela, not Lilith herself.
  • The fate of Adam. He and his mother were murdered by monsters just because of their connection to John Winchester. Then he was resurrected and introduced to his long lost half brothers for the briefest of moments before being possessed by an archangel, firebombed by another angel and thrown into hell by his own brothers. Now he's trapped for all eternity in a cage in Hell with two supremely pissed off archangels. We've heard about all the terrible things that happened to Sam and Dean during their stints in Hell, but Adam has now been there longer than both of them and is still being tortured, with no hope of ever being rescued. And nobody, not even his own brothers, seem to care that he's still there, he's barely been mentioned since. All because he wanted to see his mother again. Easily the worst bit of fridge horror in the series.
    • Let's not forget Bela, who sold her soul to stop her father from raping her-only to have both her parents killed. She'd have gone through life an orphan, knowing it was her fault with an eternity in hell looming over her-from the age of 14 to 24.
    • There's Lilith, the first woman, who was presumably kidnapped, tortured, mutilated by Lucifer into becoming a demon, locked in hell for millions of years, and released only to be killed (and wiped out of existence) to free the man who destroyed her life and soul in what looked to be a very painful way.
    • Jimmy Novak's been strapped to a comet, killed, resurrected (twice) and kept from his family just because he wanted to do the right thing.
      • And his family had to watch Godstiel go on a months long world wide killing spree while wearing their loved one.
      • Considering how many times Jimmy/Cas has been exploded, reconstituted, possessed by Eldritch Abomination(s), and reprogrammed, can we all agree (and dearly hope) that Jimmy's soul has passed on and it's just Cas in there now?
    • This is why there's a list of Supernatural characters titled "Team Screwed Over By Team Free Will."
  • Sam and Dean singing together in "No Rest for the Wicked" gets a lot less heartwarming when a few seconds after Sam starts to lighten up, Dean goes quiet and contemplative and you wonder if maybe he just wanted to cheer Sam up.
  • Chuck was writing stories based off the Winchester's real lives, right? And there's a small but dedicated fandom following those books in cannon, right? Can you imagine if you were one such fan, who suddenly saw a headline one day—maybe on the sidebar of your homepage as you checked your e-mail—and saw that oh, no, there’s been some sort of bizarre accident, but hey, wait a minute, this guy has the same name as the character in the book I just read… and he looks like he might have died the same way…? And then googling a bit and realizing all of the people who’ve ever died in the books correspond to real people who actually died in genuinely horrific ways in real life?
  • Dr. Gaines (the Leviathan) was "bibbed" and forced to eat himself by his boss, Richard Roman. But remember, before Levi!Gaines took that form in "Hello, Cruel World", he had originally possessed a little girl by the name of Annie. Also keep in mind that the Leviathans don't just transfer hosts, they shapeshift. Wait a second....that means that that Leviathan basically forced a little girl to unwillingly run away from her family and EAT HERSELF. I guess we can only hope that the Leviathans don't keep their hosts conscious like demons do..
    • Well, when the Leviathans first took over Cas, they said he was "dead." Hopefully(?) that means their hosts' minds are totally gone and the little girl wasn't around to feel a thing.
  • While its possible it was simply because Whitman was possibly draining them, the implication that some ghosts go crazy because they have both begun to physically and mentally decay is totally chilling. "Ghost Alzheimer's" as Bobby puts it, simply doesn't do the horror of this justice.
  • As of "Survival of the Fittest," Sam is more alone and at rock bottom than any character has ever been in the history of the show. When Dean went to Hell, Sam had Ruby. When Sam jumped into the Pit, Dean had Lisa and Ben. Right now, though Sam is completely and utterly alone. His brother and one of his best friends are stuck in Purgatory. Bobby is dead. He literally has nobody left. His family is gone. And I believe it was confirmed at one of the cons recently that Lucifer isn't fully gone from Sam's head... What fun we're going to have next season.
  • Amy Pond's son belongs to a species that need human pituitary glands to survive. His mother was keeping them both alive mostly by working as a mortician and harvesting the glands from the corpses that crossed her table, only killing people when he got sick and needed fresher food. And then Dean kills her. How's a boy who's barely in double figures, who will die without those glands, supposed to get them without killing anyone?
  • Crowley kidnaps a bunch of shape-shifter babies and threatens to gut them in front of their daddy, the Alpha shape-shifter. Later, when attempting to deal with the Leviathan leader, Dick Roman, he brings a basket of muffins made with baby uvulas. Where did he get... OH DEAR.
  • The Hallucifer storyline in particular is very disturbing when you think about it. Sam is being tormented by a hallucination of the person who horrifically tortured him for God knows how long so badly that he ends up going insane and almost dies from the fallout. How awful must it have been for Sam to have your torturer (and, it's heavily implied, rapist) living inside your head and actively trying to kill you or else push you to kill yourself? Especially when his trick for banishing Hallucifer stopped working at the end of "Repo Man", so he had to deal with that without any escape. One wonders how bad Sam's mental state really was since Hallucifer is just a hallucination, AKA a fragment of Sam's damaged psyche, so on some level, Sam just wanted to die but wouldn't admit it to himself.
  • Lilith. She's said to be the first demon. She's female. We know that. But...she seems to prefer to take young girls as meatsuits and acts childish. Lucifer kidnapped her, tortured her, and corrupted her to make a point. Does anyone else think that unlike Crowley (a Scottish tailor) or Ruby (a witch) Lilith was just a little girl that got snatched by Lucifer?
  • In 8x17 (Goodbye Stranger) when the brothers find Meg the first thing Dean does is make a crack about her hair (which is now blonde) and she says Crowley did it. And we're all laughing at Dean's line of thought and the idea of Crowley giving his victims makeovers. But her hair used to be dark brown and to go from brown to blonde means bleaching the hair. Who thinks Crowley would do that properly? Or does a bucket full of the nastiest bleach on the planet repeatedly sloshed over her head seem more likely?
    • Probably with lacerations all over her head just to maximize the pain; her hair was kinda bloodstained, after all.
  • Partway through Season Six we find out that Christian had been possessed the entire time he had been onscreen on Crowley's orders to keep an eye on Samuel. But in "Two and A Half Men," Samuel asks Christian whether he and his wife had had any luck in getting pregnant. Are they trying to make another Antichrist?
    • Unlikely. What Samuel said implies that there are two human bodies involved, while the process that conceived Jesse involved only one human and a demon who possessed that human.
  • Naomi is in charge of bringing rebellious angels to heel, by brainwashing them using some kind of drill, reading their thoughts the whole time they're under her control, and making them follow her orders, without them realizing it. We know that she has done this to Cass over and over again. Now consider all those seemingly emotionless Mooks that show up all the time. Consider Anna. How many angels on the show have been brainwashed by Naomi, and how many times?
    Castiel: You've been in all our heads! That's the problem!
  • In "Man's Best Friend with Benefits" Jame's Frampton's familiar Portia's alternate form is that of a Doberman Pinscher. Traditionally, Doberman's have their ears cropped to make them stand and tails docked short, like the dog used in filming. Does that mean that sometime in her life the familiar had her ear's partially cut off?
  • Lilith possessing little girls gets more and more evil and cruel the more you think about it. Not only is she terrorizing and killing entire families while making them think their daughter/sister/granddaughter has become a monster, the little girls she possesses are still in there—being forced to murder their pets and their loved ones (and having said loved ones plotting to kill them), being forced to torture half a dozen people to death (the police station people), unable to control their own bodies, all the while probably having Lilith verbally and mentally torture them in their minds. This probably happens to most hosts (if not all of them), but it's especially appalling here because these are children.
    • Adding to that, Becky reads the book versions of the third season, and thinks that Lilith and Crowley were lovers. Lilith exclusively possessed little girls in that season. Christ, if any of her hosts survived, they'll need a lifetime of therapy.
  • "The French Mistake" is chockful of Crowning Moments of Funny, but when you consider that most of that reality's version of the Supernatural cast and crew were murdered and that Jensen Ackles and Jared Padalecki vanished without a trace, leaving Genevieve (and presumably Danneel, though she doesn't appear) without any idea of what happened to them... it gets pretty freaking tragic.
    • While I'm sure Genevieve and Danneel would be going out of their mind, we don't actually know whether J and J actually disappeared, or if they came back once Sam and Dean left. Misha on the other hand was definitely murdered in cold blood, leaving Vicki a widowed mother bringing up a West who'd never know his father. Now THAT is a serious Tear Jerker.
  • The conclusion to Bela Talbot's story is that she goes to Hell as part of her Deal with the Devil. That's an extremely dark and horrific fate for any character, but it gets even worse when you consider why she made her deal—her father was raping her and she wanted to stop him from hurting her anymore. Demons prey on traumatic psychological issues while dishing out physical pain, and this is only compounded in Hell, where the torment never stops, ever, and as a "bonus," demons can shapeshift into people you know when tormenting you. Demons would absolutely rape Bela, probably in the form of her father, as a form of torture. And given her preexisting trauma, that's probably their favorite way of torturing her. The thing she tried so desperately to escape as a child will be visited on her for the rest of eternity.
  • Dean eats a lot, to the point that it's a running joke, right? But knowing what the boys' childhood was like, Dean got in the habit of 'eat when there's food because I don't know when I can get it again'. Sam, however, doesn't eat whenever he can, like Dean. Why? Dean gave Sam his food, so Sam wouldn't go hungry.

    Fridge Logic 
  • Not so much fridge logic as just fridge weirdness, but in season 6 Cas absorbed all the souls in purgatory. Which means that for a while Benny was in Cas. That kinda puts a whole new weird twist on their relationship.
    • Exactly how did the souls return to Purgatory after Cas absorbed them anyway? Granted the Leviathans are the oldest, strongest, meanest sons-of-bitches in that place, but how come they remained behind when everything else got sent back? Presumably when they infected the water they had something to anchor themselves to our world, but it still seems somewhat vague?
    • The souls couldn't survive on their own on earth, so they died. Thus went to Purgatory, same as whenever any of these creatures would've died.
      • Wait, what? The souls didn't die; they got shot back into Purgatory by Cas. Since the leviathans are purely physical beings without souls, they were able to physically hold on inside Cas' vessel and thus, managed to avoid being forced out.
  • In "Afterschool Special," there's a flashback to Dean being caught cheating on his high school girlfriend. The very first episode was about a Woman in White, who went after men who were or had been unfaithful. But for some reason she chose Sam over him on the basis that he "will be" unfaithful (when she makes him).
    • Also, how did anyone fall for the accident spiel? Her children looked way too old to need monitoring in the bathtub.
    • She thought Sam was hotter. But seriously, that plot point wasn't written yet. Ghosts don't have to make sense.
    • Not to mention which she actually tried to kill BOTH brothers by running them over with the Impala. Sam just happened to be the more convenient target at that precise moment in time given that he was alone in a manner that fit her standard attack method.
    • Its possible she recognized that Dean sleeps around but doesn't get his feelings too attached. Sam on the other hand is deeply in love with Jessica, while the guy in the beginning also seems to have been in love with his girlfriend. This is why such a betrayal and why it incurs her wrath.
  • In "Meat Swap" one of the friends of the kids who swapped minds with Sam got killed. No one mentioned it after at the end. How are the kids gonna explain that?
    • There's a lot of loose ends in this show. Like all the other people that were framed by the shapeshifter in Season 1, episode 6, or the two dead bodies (the werewolves) in Season 2, episode 17. Dean even says that they avoid hitting the same town twice because "Hunters tend to leave messes behind."
  • So, the angels use human bodies as vessels when they visit earth. But what happens when they leave? We know that Jimmy Novak didn't have control for the entire time he was a vessel, but where was he while Castiel was going around as a multi-dimensional wave of celestial intent?
    • Perhaps they're left like Raphael's vessel - drooling and catatonic until the angel in question returns to Earth to reclaim them? ... Oh, nevermind, I don't like that theory...
      • I thought that only happened to people possessed by really powerful angels. Jimmy seemed fine the other times he got un-possessed.
  • In "Of Grave Importance", everyone seems to be under the impression that ghosts only have one way out, having their bones burned... except in "Roadkill" a ghost is clearly shown going into the light. Exactly why was this never brought up?
    • It could very well be that this is only possible in very specific circumstances. Both the ghost in "Roadkill" and the one in "Houses of the Holy" only went into the light after an important realization (usually to do with them coming to terms with what they had become), in both cases with outside assistance. Since the ghosts in the mansion were already aware of their spectral nature, it may be that this was simply not an option anymore. Further, even if this was not the case, those that had become vengeful spirits were already probably too far gone and Whitman Van Ness would have used his own power to keep the others from escaping him in this way. We can assume that the Winchesters and Bobby, being the experienced hunters they are, knew this and simply chose not to discuss it.
      • It's mentioned that vengeful spirits are like wounded animals, irrational and territorial. Going into the light took someone else talking them through it logically, and if you've ever tried to take care of an injured animal you know that's not happening.
      • Sam and Dean specifically state in "Ghostfacers" that Death Echoes are specific types of ghosts that don't know they're dead, and are stuck in a loop repeating their death until someone can convince them that they're ghosts. Sounds like the plot of "Roadkill" to me.
  • In The Great Escapist, if Naomi can select and wipe very specific portions of Castiel's memory, why can't she just extract the information she wants from his head without needing to ask him? It's not stated that he gained some sort of immunity.
    • Remember though, Castiel has hid the angel tablet inside his vessel. Even if Naomi tried to "extract the information" the tablet provides immunity from her tampering.
    • Point taken. It does have some powers since he can break her mental control with it and use it to hide from her, so it sort of explains the immunity even if not stated outright. But Naomi doesn't know he hid it there, which still leaves the question why she didn't at least try to probe his mind when she knows that's the simplest solution.
      • It could be that she can only compel him to speak when his mind has already been tampered with. Since the tablet reset him, she no longer has any power over him.
      • Just pointing out that we have no idea what the tablet actually does. The characters all act like the tablet changed Cas, but upon rewatching "Goodbye Stranger", Cas touches the tablet after he breaks control. We have no idea whether the tablet actually helps or whether characters incapable of understanding the Profound Bond said that to explain it all.
  • Metatron, the Scribe of God, is a compulsive reader and loves stories. Chuck, who may actually be God, is a prophet who constantly writes stories. Despite all of the books that Chuck has written about the Winchesters, and the great piles of books Metatron owns and is constantly acquiring, the latter is not familiar with the Winchester's or their exploits. As if someone did not want him to read those particular books...
    • Or Metatron isn't being 100% honest with our boys. I'm getting a majorly sketchy vibe from the guy...
      • Oh boy was THIS guy right.
  • Dark Side of the Moon. Sam's memory of his time alone in Flagstaff when he was living off "Funions and Mr. Pibb." Ostensibly he was still young. And there are beer bottles on the table next to the box of pizza. What.
    • Well, in "Hunteri Heroici" Dean says that Fred Jones gave him his first beer before he was in his double digits. I guess the boys just started young.
      • I meant more of "how on Earth did Sam get his hands on beer." I guess he stole them?
  • To be able to act as a vessel for Lucifer, Sam had to drink tons of demon blood. It seems to be a matter of containing that level of power, as the previous vessel (Nick) was falling apart by the end of Season 5 and Castiel had a similar issue going on early in Season 7 when he was carrying all the souls of Purgatory. So was Michael just in Adam for too brief a time for him to start burning up from in the inside, or was he partaking in some of the go-juice too? The former makes sense, as it took a while for Nick to start deteriorating (although he presumably was drinking demon blood to slow the process) and when Michael possessed John when the boys went back in time he didn't immediately blow up.
    • Nick was not in the Winchester blood line. Adam would be similar to Claire, in that he's apart of Micheal's vessel's blood line, just as John was. Nick would have been left like Rapheal's vessel had it not been for the demon blood destroying his body. Adding to that, Dean would have been fine after giving his consent, just as I can assume Adam would have been. At least thats my theory
    • My theory is that Nick is a Campbell, and that it's the Campbell bloodline that are Lucifer's vessel.
    • So, probably his wife and kid were murdered by Supernaturals since he was a hunter, which would make his rage against God even more understandable. "I fight for your side, and you don't protect my Family!"
  • In "Sacrifice", Metatron reveals he is a giant dick and all the angels fall. Wouldn't that mean that Metatron himself would, too, since he is an angel? What, just because he's the one doing the deed, he gets a get-out-of-falling free card?
    • He most likely wasn't affected since he was the one performing it, or at least set of a protective spell for himself in advance.
    • Or maybe he fell, too, and he'll be running around Earth in Season 9 along with the rest of the angels, as a recurring villain.
    • Seems like the latter, since he's apparently been really bored up there alone. Also seems like he has a way to let angels back in.
  • This is more Fridge Heartbreaking than Fridge Horror, I suppose—-but remember what Dean told Sam when they impersonated fire fighters to evacuate an apartment complex so they could exorcize the demon-possessed people living there? He'd always wanted to be a fireman. One wonders if on some level he wanted to prevent other people losing their mothers the way he lost his.....
  • At the end of Season 3, did Sam and Bobby change Dean's hellhound-shredded body into new clothing, or did Castiel just fix his clothes up when he was brought back? For that matter, why didn't they leave him above-ground instead of having him wake up in the coffin (where he could easily have died again, mind you)?
  • Early in season four, Castiel mentions that the angels are at more or less open war with the demons, and that "many of his brothers have fallen in battle" (paraphrased). Except that Alistair, who was apparently Hell's finest torturer, said himself that neither he nor Lilith had any idea how to kill angels. This is well before "On The Head Of A Pin" so it probably wasn't Uriel. So who was killing them?
    • Alastair only said that he didn't know how to kill angels. What he said about Lilith was that she would kill thousands of angels, not seven, meaning that the murders were too small-scale to be her doing. Presumably, Lilith did have some means of killing angels (perhaps something like that theoretical book with "the right spells" that Castiel mentioned in "Goodbye Stranger"), but was not using it to its full capacity for whatever reason.
    • Alastair probably didn't know because he's never had an interest in killing angels. By his own admission he doesn't like being pulled away from his personal heaven down in Hell torturing whatever poor sap he gets his hands on. It's likely that he knows how to torture an angel, but not kill one because why on earth would Alastair kill an angel when he can torture and twist it? There's the possibility that Lilith CAN kill angels, but since she is the final seal and only her and Ruby know that that she's keeping out of the fight leading the other demons to think she can't do anything about them either. There's also the possibility that in the demon ranks there are angels who sided with Lucifer when the original fight went down and they are the ones killing the angels on Michael's side.
  • When Dean shoots Lucifer with the Colt, we all know it doesn't kill him. However, what he did do was drop to the ground, presumably knocked out/disorientated. Why didn't Sam and Dean at least try this same tactic at the end of the season? Shoot Lucifer, open the cage and shove him in before he comes round.
    • Yeah, why didn't Dean just shoot his own brother? Oh, right, because Sammy is his brother and that's a pretty difficult thing to actually do.


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