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* If you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife are almost rendered extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that the world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', the Fridge [[Fridge/MegaManZX page]] on the ''ZX'' series points out that the damage dealt to Earth meant that it isn't enough to sustain it without aid, and all of the animals seen are ''Reploid-made'' replicas - meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. This makes Sigma's line about the world being worn out suddenly become a reality.

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* If you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife are almost rendered extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that the world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', the Fridge [[Fridge/MegaManZX page]] on the ''ZX'' series points out that the damage dealt to Earth meant that it isn't enough to sustain it without aid, and all of the animals seen are ''Reploid-made'' replicas - meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. This makes make Sigma's [[spoiler:(and Lumine's)]] line about the world being worn out and crumbling suddenly become a reality.
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* If you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife is all but extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that the world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', the Fridge page on the ''ZX'' series points out that the damage dealt to Earth meant that it isn't enough to sustain it without aid, and all of the animals seen are ''all'' Reploid-made replicas, meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. This makes Sigma's line about the world being worn out suddenly become a reality.

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* If you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife is all but are almost rendered extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that the world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', the Fridge page [[Fridge/MegaManZX page]] on the ''ZX'' series points out that the damage dealt to Earth meant that it isn't enough to sustain it without aid, and all of the animals seen are ''all'' Reploid-made replicas, ''Reploid-made'' replicas - meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. This makes Sigma's line about the world being worn out suddenly become a reality.
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** Another brilliance is that [[RobotDog Rush]] debuted in ''Mega Man 3'', the game whose development is considered to be [[IncrediblyLamePun "rushed"]].

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** Another brilliance is that [[RobotDog Rush]] debuted in ''Mega Man 3'', the game whose development is considered to be [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} "rushed"]].
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* If you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife is all but extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that the world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', the Fridge page on the ''ZX'' series points out that the damage dealt to Earth meant that it isn't enough to sustain without aid, and all of the animals seen are ''all'' Reploid-made replicas, meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. This makes Sigma's line about the world being worn out suddenly became a reality.

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* If you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife is all but extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that the world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', the Fridge page on the ''ZX'' series points out that the damage dealt to Earth meant that it isn't enough to sustain it without aid, and all of the animals seen are ''all'' Reploid-made replicas, meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. This makes Sigma's line about the world being worn out suddenly became become a reality.
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* Just think about what Sigma said about the world being in a sorry state, if you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife is all but extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that the world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', which persisted in the ''ZX Series'', all of the animals seen in the later are ''all'' Reploid-made replicas, meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. ''Legends'' is the most light-hearted of the games, and the natural greenery still persists... until the reveal that the last of the original humans is dead and all of the inhabitants being the [[ArtificialHuman Carbons]].

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* Just think about what Sigma said about the world being in a sorry state, if If you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife is all but extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that the world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', which persisted in the ''ZX Series'', Fridge page on the ''ZX'' series points out that the damage dealt to Earth meant that it isn't enough to sustain without aid, and all of the animals seen in the later are ''all'' Reploid-made replicas, meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. ''Legends'' is This makes Sigma's line about the most light-hearted of the games, and the natural greenery still persists... until the reveal that the last of the original humans is dead and all of the inhabitants world being the [[ArtificialHuman Carbons]].worn out suddenly became a reality.
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** From Zero to ZX: In ''Zero 4'', it was stated that the relationship between humans and reploids was bad. After Zero killed Weil (in which he was also killed off for real), humans started to warm up to reploids. In essence, Zero sacrificed himself in order for the rowdy relationship between humans and reploids to evolve into a better relationship. Also, in ZX, reploids were given an age limit, while humans were given cybernetic implants and enhancements. In essence, Zero sacrificed himself in order for reploids to become closer to becoming the same as humans.
* In ''VideoGame/MegaManZX Advent'', when playing as Ashe, you visit the Mysterious Lab; however, the bridge is destroyed (which was the result of Grey beating his intro boss), leaving Grey's intro area of the Lab inaccessible, and Model A mentions that it looks like there was a fight there, while when playing as Grey, you can see the remains of Ashe's intro boss in the Oil Fields. This shows that both characters went through their intro stages. However, Grey is nowhere to be seen when playing as Ashe, and Ashe is nowhere to be seen when playing as Grey. This implies that the opposite player character to the one you are currently playing as died at the end of their intro stage, Grey falling to his death when the bridge is destroyed, and Ashe being killed by Prometheus on the Raiders' airship.
* This one applies to the series as a whole: robots aren't living beings. They're just machines constructed to behave like ones. Think what that means for all the robot characters you play as or meet in the series. Mega Man, X, Zero, etc.? They're not alive, they're all just machines. Ditto for the [=NetNavis=] in the Battle Network continuity: they're just computer programs, not living beings.

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** From Zero to ZX: In ''Zero 4'', it was stated that the relationship between humans and reploids was bad. After Zero killed Weil (in which he was also killed off for real), humans started to warm up to reploids. In essence, Zero sacrificed himself in order for the rowdy relationship between humans and reploids to evolve into a better relationship. Also, in ZX, ''ZX'', reploids were given an age limit, while humans were given cybernetic implants and enhancements. In essence, Zero sacrificed himself in order for reploids to become closer to becoming the same as humans.
* In ''VideoGame/MegaManZX Advent'', when playing as Ashe, you visit the Mysterious Lab; however, the bridge is destroyed (which was the result of Grey beating his intro boss), leaving Grey's intro area of the Lab inaccessible, and Model A mentions that it looks like there was a fight there, while when playing as Grey, you can see the remains of Ashe's intro boss in the Oil Fields. This shows that both characters went through their intro stages. However, Grey is nowhere to be seen when playing as Ashe, and Ashe is nowhere to be seen when playing as Grey. This implies that the opposite player character to the one you are currently playing as died at the end of their intro stage, Grey falling to his death when the bridge is destroyed, and Ashe (alongside her crew, given their absence) being killed by Prometheus on the Raiders' airship.
* This one applies to Just think about what Sigma said about the world being in a sorry state, if you look at the series from ''Classic'' to ''ZX'' then you'll notice something about the current state of the world -- in ''Classic'', this is more subdued due to the presence of natural forests, with the robotic animals being outright stated that they were once environmental and fauna patrols before Wily reprogrammed them into serving him. However, the ''X'' series is where the state of the world is apparent; everything from fauna to forests are mechanical, with implications that the wildlife is all but extinct and the world's biodiversity being decimated as a whole: robots aren't living beings. They're just machines constructed to behave like ones. Think what result of mechanizing the planet. In ''Zero'', the resulting Elf Wars ensured that means for all the robot characters you play as or meet world is even damaged than before, and the only bastion of civilization left being Neo Arcadia. While the natural forests made a return in ''Zero 4'', which persisted in the series. Mega Man, X, Zero, etc.? They're not alive, they're ''ZX Series'', all just machines. Ditto for of the [=NetNavis=] animals seen in the Battle Network continuity: they're just computer programs, not living beings.later are ''all'' Reploid-made replicas, meaning that even flesh-and-blood domestic animals have gone extinct. ''Legends'' is the most light-hearted of the games, and the natural greenery still persists... until the reveal that the last of the original humans is dead and all of the inhabitants being the [[ArtificialHuman Carbons]].

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* Robots like Slash Beast who is missing an eye and Axl who has facial scars really makes you wonder why ''machines'' would be in such a state. Are their parts so unique they're irrepairable? Do the robots intentionally keep themselves that way for whatever reason? Were they ''designed that way to begin with''?
** ''Sigma'' has facial scars that are based on both the time Zero nearly beat him to death and the time X gave him the Shining Finger treatment in the Day of Sigma event. Even when creating new incarnations of himself, he keeps these scar-like markings on his face. Slash Beast, being a Proud Soldier Reploid, would probably keep the scarred appearance of his face out of pride.
** Recurring Reploid Alia receives a complete cosmetic makeover between ''Mega Man X7'' and ''Mega Man X8''. In ''Mega Man Zero'', you meet Old Man Andrew, another Reploid that deliberately had himself aged so that [[MayflyDecemberRomance he could grow old with his human wife]]. The short answer, then, is that if a Reploid loses an eye or receives a scar and decides he kinda likes how it looks on him, there's nothing at all stopping him from wearing an eyepatch or keeping the scar as part of his personal asthetic.
** There's also Scareface from Command Mission, who has this going on even though he was just recently built. This suggests that it's being done on purpose in certain instances, most likely as way to increase their intimidation factor.



* ''VideoGame/MegaMan9'' had some pretty cold interactions, with Mega Man and Roll not being able to understand why the current batch of Robot Masters did not want to go to the scrapyard. At first, it seemed kinda gruesome. But then I realized that Mega Man and Roll are not truly free-willed beings. They are limited in many ways. This is why X was such a breakthrough. Mega Man and Roll can't understand why they wouldn't want to be scrapped because their programming is too limited to let them. Which also explains why Mega Man picked up the IdiotBall at the end. He's a limited 3-Laws Robot. -{{Peteman}}

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* ''VideoGame/MegaMan9'' had some pretty cold interactions, with Mega Man and Roll not being able to understand why the current batch of Robot Masters did not want to go to the scrapyard. At first, it seemed kinda gruesome. But then I realized that Mega Man and Roll are not truly free-willed beings. They are limited in many ways. This is why X was such a breakthrough. Mega Man and Roll can't understand why they wouldn't want to be scrapped because their programming is too limited to let them. Which also explains why Mega Man picked up the IdiotBall at the end. He's a limited 3-Laws Robot. -{{Peteman}}



** It doesn't explain the IdiotBall, because with Proto Man around, he could have had his big brother keep an eye on Wily. Proto Man clearly sees through the trap, but picks up a Jerkass Ball, allowing a deadly psycho to run free in order to teach his brother to be less naive. It's not an issue of in-universe robot logic, it's a world where Dr. Wily managed to scam the human populace into arresting Dr. Light just by showing up on TV. That, and FailureIsTheOnlyOption as regards stopping him for good. - GuySmiley
** Think about it this way: Everyone in the ''Mega Man'' universe is ultimately simple-minded. Except for Dr. Wily, who is smart enough to realize he can dupe and con and outsmart everyone even though they don't have a OneManArmy chasing them all the time. Heck, he simply TALKS the Robot Masters into going berserk in ''[=MM9=]''. Also, Dr. Light is smart enough to realize their limitations and works on X, along with burying capsules with advanced weaponry in case the future needs another hero. -- {{Chadius}}
** The lack of an in-game explanation for the expiration law that set the plot in motion bothered me. Then I realized that the massive distrust that humans had for Reploids in the ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series ''started'' with distrust for robots in the original series, with the expiration law as an early example. -- {{MMTrigger}}

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** It doesn't explain the IdiotBall, because with Proto Man around, he could have had his big brother keep an eye on Wily. Proto Man clearly sees through the trap, but picks up a Jerkass Ball, allowing a deadly psycho to run free in order to teach his brother to be less naive. It's not an issue of in-universe robot logic, it's a world where Dr. Wily managed to scam the human populace into arresting Dr. Light just by showing up on TV. That, and FailureIsTheOnlyOption as regards stopping him for good. - GuySmiley
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** Think about it this way: Everyone in the ''Mega Man'' universe is ultimately simple-minded. Except for Dr. Wily, who is smart enough to realize he can dupe and con and outsmart everyone even though they don't have a OneManArmy chasing them all the time. Heck, he simply TALKS the Robot Masters into going berserk in ''[=MM9=]''. Also, Dr. Light is smart enough to realize their limitations and works on X, along with burying capsules with advanced weaponry in case the future needs another hero. -- {{Chadius}}
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** The lack of an in-game explanation for the expiration law that set the plot in motion bothered me. Then I realized that the massive distrust that humans had for Reploids in the ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series ''started'' with distrust for robots in the original series, with the expiration law as an early example. -- {{MMTrigger}}



*** Zero was created to ruin Light's dream for peace between robots (or reploids) and humans. As long as Zero lived, there was constant tension, even if he wasn't directly responsible for it and fought for the good guys. After Zero dies for good, peace is achieved. In effect, Zero filled his original purpose as long as he lived. {{Mandemo}}
*** Even after he (as a Reploid) died, he was still wrecking peace's day, if only as a tool rather than as a character; his Biometal form is directly involved in the events of ''ZX'' and ''ZX Advent''. -- Soma K.
* I discovered an interesting revelation in the change in Mega Man's demeanor across the games. In ''Mega Man 7'', he points his buster when he's charging a shot. In following games, he doesn't. Then it occurred to me: ''7'' is the game where he tried to ''kill'' Dr. Wily. Pointing the buster out was meant to ''foreshadow'' Rock's anger at Dr. Wily, which would cool down but still remain. In ''8'', he realized that Wily always says the same line when he's defeated before he's attacked by the Evil Energy. He was going to attempt to kill Wily again, no announcements ("I am more than a robot!"), just straight-up murder him because he was tired of dealing with him again and again. That's why the Energy attacked him; he was the only viable source of evil left. When Duo saved him, he also purged Rock of his anger, restoring his friendlier nature. -- Troper/{{MMTrigger}}
* I figured out why Mega Man can't slide in the adaptor forms: ''they're too bulky''. Think about it; the wings prevent good sliding due to the length, the power adaptor has a bigger torso, and the Super Adaptor carries ''both'' problems.-@/{{Etheru}}

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*** Zero was created to ruin Light's dream for peace between robots (or reploids) and humans. As long as Zero lived, there was constant tension, even if he wasn't directly responsible for it and fought for the good guys. After Zero dies for good, peace is achieved. In effect, Zero filled his original purpose as long as he lived. {{Mandemo}}
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*** Even after he (as a Reploid) died, he was still wrecking peace's day, if only as a tool rather than as a character; his Biometal form is directly involved in the events of ''ZX'' and ''ZX Advent''. -- Soma K.\n
* I discovered an interesting revelation in the change in Mega Man's demeanor across the games. In ''Mega Man 7'', he points his buster when he's charging a shot. In following games, he doesn't. Then it occurred to me: ''7'' is the game where he tried to ''kill'' Dr. Wily. Pointing the buster out was meant to ''foreshadow'' Rock's anger at Dr. Wily, which would cool down but still remain. In ''8'', he realized that Wily always says the same line when he's defeated before he's attacked by the Evil Energy. He was going to attempt to kill Wily again, no announcements ("I am more than a robot!"), just straight-up murder him because he was tired of dealing with him again and again. That's why the Energy attacked him; he was the only viable source of evil left. When Duo saved him, he also purged Rock of his anger, restoring his friendlier nature. -- Troper/{{MMTrigger}}
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* I figured out why Mega Man can't slide in the adaptor forms: ''they're too bulky''. Think about it; the wings prevent good sliding due to the length, the power adaptor has a bigger torso, and the Super Adaptor carries ''both'' problems.-@/{{Etheru}}



* ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' had these things called "Cyber Elves", which I thought was an absolutely stupid name. Then, eventually it dawned on me: Elf is an Acronym, "Electronic Life Form". Now I think it's pretty clever. -Peteman

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* ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' had these things called "Cyber Elves", which I thought was an absolutely stupid name. Then, eventually it dawned on me: Elf is an Acronym, "Electronic Life Form". Now I think it's pretty clever. -Peteman



** Becomes more brilliant in ''Marvel vs Capcom 3''. The opening quote for Captain America to Zero is "Your name's Zero? Hope you don't fight like one." Now, what war did Cap fight in? And what war did the [=A6M2=] Zeroes fight in? That's right, Cap isn't insulting Zero, he's tense about his fighting style. -KMan

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** Becomes more brilliant in ''Marvel vs Capcom 3''. The opening quote for Captain America to Zero is "Your name's Zero? Hope you don't fight like one." Now, what war did Cap fight in? And what war did the [=A6M2=] Zeroes fight in? That's right, Cap isn't insulting Zero, he's tense about his fighting style. -KMan



* The [[GrandFinale final battle in the last game]] of the ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series has something boss battles haven't had since the first actual boss in the first game: a countdown. 140 seconds before the ColonyDrop. I was pondering if the number 140 had any special meaning: if they had wanted to make it 2 minutes, it would have been 120 seconds. Maybe they figured out this was the best time range to defeat the last boss. But [[Troper/{{Fubu72}} This Troper]] thought up of an interesting meaning: 140 = 1-4 Zero. Or ''Zero 1-4''; games 1 through 4 in the series have their climax in these last 140 seconds. -- {{Fubu72}}

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* The [[GrandFinale final battle in the last game]] of the ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series has something boss battles haven't had since the first actual boss in the first game: a countdown. 140 seconds before the ColonyDrop. I was pondering if the number 140 had any special meaning: if they had wanted to make it 2 minutes, it would have been 120 seconds. Maybe they figured out this was the best time range to defeat the last boss. But [[Troper/{{Fubu72}} This Troper]] thought up of an interesting meaning: 140 = 1-4 Zero. Or ''Zero 1-4''; games 1 through 4 in the series have their climax in these last 140 seconds. -- {{Fubu72}}



* Also regarding the final battle with Zero killing Dr. Weil. While this would seem to invalidate Dr. Light's ideals due to Zero not being programmed with the three laws, it truly doesn't when you take into account the extremely obscure Zeroth Law Of Robotics. "A robot through action or inaction cannot allow '''humanity''' to come to harm." What this law says is that in order to protect the human race as a whole, a robot is allowed to disobey laws 1-3 because law zero supercedes the other laws. Think of it as an emergency clause that would take effect if someone like Hitler or TheAntiChrist rose to power. Under Law Zero, a robot would be allowed to terminate him to stop his depredations upon humanity. Due to the obscurity of the law, this is a GeniusBonus. --{{Magnum12}}
* This Troper just realized the beauty in giving all the [=NPCs=] names and bios in ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'': It is like a social networking profile. You know them as well as you do random people you friend just to increase your friend count in Website/{{Facebook}}. - {{Stinkoman87}}
* The inclusion of Sheep Man in ''VideoGame/MegaMan10'' seemed kind of a lame boss-concept... then I realized: wait a minute... he's a robot sheep... an [[Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep Electric Sheep... the kind androids dream of]]. - @/{{Rothul}}

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* Also regarding the final battle with Zero killing Dr. Weil. While this would seem to invalidate Dr. Light's ideals due to Zero not being programmed with the three laws, it truly doesn't when you take into account the extremely obscure Zeroth Law Of Robotics. "A robot through action or inaction cannot allow '''humanity''' to come to harm." What this law says is that in order to protect the human race as a whole, a robot is allowed to disobey laws 1-3 because law zero supercedes the other laws. Think of it as an emergency clause that would take effect if someone like Hitler or TheAntiChrist rose to power. Under Law Zero, a robot would be allowed to terminate him to stop his depredations upon humanity. Due to the obscurity of the law, this is a GeniusBonus. --{{Magnum12}}\n
* This Troper just realized the beauty in giving all the [=NPCs=] names and bios in ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'': It is like a social networking profile. You know them as well as you do random people you friend just to increase your friend count in Website/{{Facebook}}. - {{Stinkoman87}}
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* The inclusion of Sheep Man in ''VideoGame/MegaMan10'' seemed kind of a lame boss-concept... then I realized: wait a minute... he's a robot sheep... an [[Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep Electric Sheep... the kind androids dream of]]. - @/{{Rothul}}



* In ''VideoGame/MegaMan10'', you can easily defeat Solar Man with the Water Shield. Put out the sun with mere water? Preposterous! Then I read [[http://what-if.xkcd.com/14/ this XKCD what-if article]]... -@/{{ekolis}}
* Another one for ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'': After having played through the trilogy, I wondered why it was that while both Budd and Luna had gained EM forms throughout the story thanks to merging with Taurus and Ophiucus, respectively, in the first game, only Taurus revived as a HeelFaceTurn while Luna was left on the sidelines with no powers by the end of ''3''. At first, I thought, "letdown," and that they just decided to shove her to the sidelines for whatever reason. But then, I remembered that for the human-EM fusion to be effective, it was a two-way deal. Both the character and the FM-ian had to "sync" in sorts to get it to work right, hence why the FM-ians deceived their hosts in the first game. As the story goes on, we see that Taurus may not have been all that evil when we first met him, better to match Budd's fierce, yet easy-going demeanor, resulting in his eventual team-up in ''3''. Ophiucus, on the other hand, was wholly unrepetant and manipulative, while Luna was becoming a nicer, more honest and genuine person. Luna's {{character development}} and personality just did not match Ophiucus', which is why Luna never transforms ever again, barring her fight in ''2'' when she was BrainwashedAndCrazy at the time. Basically, Luna would have to betray her entire being to obtain that power again, and she would rather be powerless and support from the sidelines. - Grithalmur
* Many people complains that how [[VideoGame/MegaManZX Model ZX]] looks more like Zero than X, and with that fact, some fans assume that Inticreates dump X away. And then I remember: [[FridgeLogic Why Model HX looks more Harpuia than X, for example, and fans never complain about it?]] The answer is that Double Megamerging is not like mixing red with blue (as many fans assumed), but akin to [[VideoGame/MegaManX X's]] [[PowerCopying Variable Weapons System.]] What the system does is emulating the powers he copied from the defeated enemies. Similarly, Model X serves as an emulator to use other Biometals. That's also probably why we never see Double Megamerge forms other than Model (insert letter here)X: Because only Model X could do it. - DAN004
* Dr. Light's ''& Bass'' profile lists his bad point as "douchie." It made no sense, until I remembered the [[VideoGame/MegaManX Light]] [[GuideDangIt Capsules]]. - ShyTenda
* At the end of the first ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' game, Wily goes into a MotiveRant about how long ago, he was working on robot research, whereas Lan's grandfather was doing Internet research. The committee in charge of both had to cancel one or the other, and after much debate they canceled Wily's project. I wondered almost immediately: what would have happened had they decided to give Hikari's research the axe instead? I shared my quandary with a friend, and he noted the obvious: there would be more robots about and the Internet wouldn't be so advanced. It wasn't until later that I made the connection between that and certain theories about the series as a whole, and the revelation came out: ''not only is the Battle Network series an alternate timeline from the original Mega Man series, but the latter is what would've transpired had Hikari's research been cut instead of Wily's''. -- @/{{SonicLover}}

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* In ''VideoGame/MegaMan10'', you can easily defeat Solar Man with the Water Shield. Put out the sun with mere water? Preposterous! Then I read [[http://what-if.xkcd.com/14/ this XKCD what-if article]]... -@/{{ekolis}}
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* Another one for ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'': After having played through the trilogy, I wondered why it was that while both Budd and Luna had gained EM forms throughout the story thanks to merging with Taurus and Ophiucus, respectively, in the first game, only Taurus revived as a HeelFaceTurn while Luna was left on the sidelines with no powers by the end of ''3''. At first, I thought, "letdown," and that they just decided to shove her to the sidelines for whatever reason. But then, I remembered that for the human-EM fusion to be effective, it was a two-way deal. Both the character and the FM-ian had to "sync" in sorts to get it to work right, hence why the FM-ians deceived their hosts in the first game. As the story goes on, we see that Taurus may not have been all that evil when we first met him, better to match Budd's fierce, yet easy-going demeanor, resulting in his eventual team-up in ''3''. Ophiucus, on the other hand, was wholly unrepetant and manipulative, while Luna was becoming a nicer, more honest and genuine person. Luna's {{character development}} and personality just did not match Ophiucus', which is why Luna never transforms ever again, barring her fight in ''2'' when she was BrainwashedAndCrazy at the time. Basically, Luna would have to betray her entire being to obtain that power again, and she would rather be powerless and support from the sidelines. - Grithalmur
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* Many people complains that how [[VideoGame/MegaManZX Model ZX]] looks more like Zero than X, and with that fact, some fans assume that Inticreates dump X away. And then I remember: [[FridgeLogic Why Model HX looks more Harpuia than X, for example, and fans never complain about it?]] The answer is that Double Megamerging is not like mixing red with blue (as many fans assumed), but akin to [[VideoGame/MegaManX X's]] [[PowerCopying Variable Weapons System.]] What the system does is emulating the powers he copied from the defeated enemies. Similarly, Model X serves as an emulator to use other Biometals. That's also probably why we never see Double Megamerge forms other than Model (insert letter here)X: Because only Model X could do it. - DAN004
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* Dr. Light's ''& Bass'' profile lists his bad point as "douchie." It made no sense, until I remembered the [[VideoGame/MegaManX Light]] [[GuideDangIt Capsules]]. - ShyTenda
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* At the end of the first ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' game, Wily goes into a MotiveRant about how long ago, he was working on robot research, whereas Lan's grandfather was doing Internet research. The committee in charge of both had to cancel one or the other, and after much debate they canceled Wily's project. I wondered almost immediately: what would have happened had they decided to give Hikari's research the axe instead? I shared my quandary with a friend, and he noted the obvious: there would be more robots about and the Internet wouldn't be so advanced. It wasn't until later that I made the connection between that and certain theories about the series as a whole, and the revelation came out: ''not only is the Battle Network series an alternate timeline from the original Mega Man series, but the latter is what would've transpired had Hikari's research been cut instead of Wily's''. -- @/{{SonicLover}}



** Referenced in [[Website/ClanOfTheGrayWolf Roo's]] review of ''The Wily Wars''. Rush is also one of the reasons why ''VideoGame/MegaMan3'' is his favorite game of the classic series. - {{blueflame724}}

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** Referenced in [[Website/ClanOfTheGrayWolf Roo's]] review of ''The Wily Wars''. Rush is also one of the reasons why ''VideoGame/MegaMan3'' is his favorite game of the classic series. - {{blueflame724}}



* There are three reasons why it was a good idea for Wily's final form to always be weak against the worst weapon in the game. First, there is the in-game reason: Wily figures Mega Man would never bother with such a crappy weapon against such a serious enemy (why use Bubble Lead when you have Metal Blade?). Then there is the out-of-game reason where, because you never use it, it ensures that you always have plenty of ammo for it. And one that works on both levels: it adds difficulty to the fight. - {{Stinkoman87}}

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* There are three reasons why it was a good idea for Wily's final form to always be weak against the worst weapon in the game. First, there is the in-game reason: Wily figures Mega Man would never bother with such a crappy weapon against such a serious enemy (why use Bubble Lead when you have Metal Blade?). Then there is the out-of-game reason where, because you never use it, it ensures that you always have plenty of ammo for it. And one that works on both levels: it adds difficulty to the fight. - {{Stinkoman87}}



* On the Japanese names: Did you know RockAndRoll were influenced by {{Blues}}? -- Tropers/MangaManiac
* The art style and some character designs of ''VideoGame/MegaManX8'' were changed to make the characters look more human. This is (for now) the last game in the series... which bridges into the ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series, where reploids are basically indistinguishable from humans. — {{aonaselk}}

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* On the Japanese names: Did you know RockAndRoll were influenced by {{Blues}}? -- Tropers/MangaManiac
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* The art style and some character designs of ''VideoGame/MegaManX8'' were changed to make the characters look more human. This is (for now) the last game in the series... which bridges into the ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series, where reploids are basically indistinguishable from humans. — {{aonaselk}}



* Following that same logic, have you ever noticed that when the fight with Dr. Cossack begins, he actually doesn't do anything for the first few seconds of the fight? This very subtly hints that Dr. Cossack ''really'' doesn't want to go through with this. - {{Tropers/JasonPaul}}
** Speaking of Cossack, I've noticed why Dr. Cossack would design Skull Man. A skull theme isn't seen anywhere else in Cossack's Citadel, and Skull Man is actually the last robot built by Dr. Cossack, meaning that [[HijackedByGanon somebody was giving him some ideas about this.]]. This is even pointed out by a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryeP0m6SUKI&feature=relmfu Youtuber as well]]. - {{Tropers/CookieMan}}
* In ''VideoGame/MegaMan2'', Wily's final form's weakness is Bubble Lead because it's really a hologram. The ''water''-based weapon shorts out the machine, thus deactivating it. --{{Tropers/Gancena}}
* This troper finally noticed a pattern in ''VideoGame/MegaManXCommandMission.'' The game is divided into a total of ten chapters. You fight a boss at the end of each chapter. The first boss is a flunky with no real impact on the story, it's just...y'know, there. The next eight stages are the main bosses (with two battles in Chapter 9) and the final chapter is the boss rush and final bosses. In the main ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' series, you fight an intro boss, eight Maverick bosses, and then a boss rush leading into the final battle. While Command Mission was essentially the EnsembleDarkhorse of the series, they kept the same pattern all along. --{{Tropers/TimeTravelerEon}}

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* Following that same logic, have you ever noticed that when the fight with Dr. Cossack begins, he actually doesn't do anything for the first few seconds of the fight? This very subtly hints that Dr. Cossack ''really'' doesn't want to go through with this. - {{Tropers/JasonPaul}}
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** Speaking of Cossack, I've noticed why Dr. Cossack would design Skull Man. A skull theme isn't seen anywhere else in Cossack's Citadel, and Skull Man is actually the last robot built by Dr. Cossack, meaning that [[HijackedByGanon somebody was giving him some ideas about this.]]. This is even pointed out by a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryeP0m6SUKI&feature=relmfu Youtuber as well]]. - {{Tropers/CookieMan}}
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* In ''VideoGame/MegaMan2'', Wily's final form's weakness is Bubble Lead because it's really a hologram. The ''water''-based weapon shorts out the machine, thus deactivating it. --{{Tropers/Gancena}}
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* This troper finally noticed a pattern in ''VideoGame/MegaManXCommandMission.'' The game is divided into a total of ten chapters. You fight a boss at the end of each chapter. The first boss is a flunky with no real impact on the story, it's just...y'know, there. The next eight stages are the main bosses (with two battles in Chapter 9) and the final chapter is the boss rush and final bosses. In the main ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' series, you fight an intro boss, eight Maverick bosses, and then a boss rush leading into the final battle. While Command Mission was essentially the EnsembleDarkhorse of the series, they kept the same pattern all along. --{{Tropers/TimeTravelerEon}}



* Special for ''Videogame/MegaManX4'': Sigma, of course, wants the Maverick Hunters and the Repliforce to destroy each other. And, of course, the best weapons that the Hunters have are X and Zero, with their ElementalRockPaperScissors m.o. Look at [[http://www.mmhp.net/GameHints/MMX4-Data.html#Damage the weakness tables]] of the Repliforce: Yeah, 4 of the 5 Officers form a good chain... but it is not a complete chain and it excludes Storm Owl. Sigma didn't just station Cyber Peacock and Split Mushroom as Double Agents and recruit Magma Dragoon on whims... they were the missing pieces to the weakness loop![[note]]Though one wonders why Sigma had to set Split Mushroom on Cyber Peacock as opposed to having a Maverick with Piercing be weak to Electricity directly...[[/note]] - Donald the Potholer

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* Special for ''Videogame/MegaManX4'': Sigma, of course, wants the Maverick Hunters and the Repliforce to destroy each other. And, of course, the best weapons that the Hunters have are X and Zero, with their ElementalRockPaperScissors m.o. Look at [[http://www.mmhp.net/GameHints/MMX4-Data.html#Damage the weakness tables]] of the Repliforce: Yeah, 4 of the 5 Officers form a good chain... but it is not a complete chain and it excludes Storm Owl. Sigma didn't just station Cyber Peacock and Split Mushroom as Double Agents and recruit Magma Dragoon on whims... they were the missing pieces to the weakness loop![[note]]Though one wonders why Sigma had to set Split Mushroom on Cyber Peacock as opposed to having a Maverick with Piercing be weak to Electricity directly...[[/note]] - Donald the Potholer[[/note]]



* It's been stated that X considers Zero his only friend. Why? Because all of the others he had made either [[AxCrazy turned Maverick]] (such as Volt Catfish) or were KilledOffForReal. In a deeper sense, you can even assume that these events have resigned X to not form meaningful bonds with anyone, save for the one robot who has persevered through it all so far. - ElRodrigo

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* It's been stated that X considers Zero his only friend. Why? Because all of the others he had made either [[AxCrazy turned Maverick]] (such as Volt Catfish) or were KilledOffForReal. In a deeper sense, you can even assume that these events have resigned X to not form meaningful bonds with anyone, save for the one robot who has persevered through it all so far. - ElRodrigo



** What makes it worse is that Zero ended the overall conflict that began with [[VideoGame/MegaMan1 the first Mega Man game]] by killing Dr. Weil, the human villain. Rock himself tried to kill Dr. Wily in his seventh game, but was unable due to the [[ThreeLawsCompliant morals]] Dr. Light programmed into him. If Rock had just fired (no speeches, no charging, just shoot the MadScientist to death), the war would've been over, possibly ''forever''. No King, no Roboenza [[spoiler:(which may have been the origin of the Maverick Virus)]], no Zero, no Maverick or Elf Wars. Just Bass and Treble, and they wouldn't have been a threat too long without Wily to maintain them. Even the Evil Energy would've been dealt with once Duo woke up. X would've lived out his life as Dr. Cain's lab assistant, maybe become a scientist himself later on. But because Dr. Light couldn't compromise his ideals, despite that Dr. Wily just didn't deserve mercy, he became humanity's killer. — MMTrigger

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** What makes it worse is that Zero ended the overall conflict that began with [[VideoGame/MegaMan1 the first Mega Man game]] by killing Dr. Weil, the human villain. Rock himself tried to kill Dr. Wily in his seventh game, but was unable due to the [[ThreeLawsCompliant morals]] Dr. Light programmed into him. If Rock had just fired (no speeches, no charging, just shoot the MadScientist to death), the war would've been over, possibly ''forever''. No King, no Roboenza [[spoiler:(which may have been the origin of the Maverick Virus)]], no Zero, no Maverick or Elf Wars. Just Bass and Treble, and they wouldn't have been a threat too long without Wily to maintain them. Even the Evil Energy would've been dealt with once Duo woke up. X would've lived out his life as Dr. Cain's lab assistant, maybe become a scientist himself later on. But because Dr. Light couldn't compromise his ideals, despite that Dr. Wily just didn't deserve mercy, he became humanity's killer. — MMTrigger

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Word is Carbons aren't machines or reploids. The system units are their successors


* When you think about it, some of the villains ''[[TheBadGuysWin won]]'' in a way. Dr Wily managed to surpass Dr. Light, considering Zero not only outlasted X, [[EnsembleDarkhorse but become a greater hero than him.]] Sigma ultimately won, since humanity ultimately died out and machines (or Carbons, if you will) took over.

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* When you think about it, some of the villains ''[[TheBadGuysWin won]]'' in a way. Dr Wily managed to surpass Dr. Light, considering Zero not only outlasted X, [[EnsembleDarkhorse but become a greater hero than him.]] Sigma ultimately won, since humanity ultimately died out and machines (or Carbons, if you will) took over.got replaced by [[ArtificiaHuman Carbons]] whilst the successors to reploids are still around.



* If you follow the plot of the main series timeline, things progress thus: [[spoiler:the original series has ''VideoGame/MegaManClassic'' vs. Dr. Wily, with the latter never being executed for his actions. Eventually, Doctors Light and Wily make their final works, X and Zero, with the Maverick virus created sometime in the interim (it's implied it was Wily's doing, but never confirmed) and getting into Zero. The ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' series has the virus absorbed from Zero into Sigma, the latter screwed around when fighting Zero instead of doing a quick kill with his beam saber like he's supposed to, and thus becomes the new BigBad and spreads the new Maverick virus. The virus is defeated with Cyber Elves, but the source of said Elves is taken over by Dr. Weil, causing the Elf Wars that ravage the Earth and kill off billions of humans and reploids. Again, the human villain is not executed (in fact, [[ThePunishment his punishment]] is ''[[AndIMustScream the]] [[WhoWantsToLiveForever exact]] '''[[AndIMustScream opposite]]''''' of an execution), leading us to the ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series. After that, humanity and reploids merge into a single species seen in the ''VideoGame/MegaManZX'' series. In the ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends'' series, it's revealed that humanity has been entirely replaced by Carbons, robots that perfectly mimic humans. The last human died before the series started. So, because humanity couldn't put down the human villains, or more broadly because neither political nor military leaders do the smart solutions with psychopaths, not only did humanity eventually die, but the original villains were partially vindicated: Dr. Wily ended the robot war and changed the world through Zero, who would never have been built if Wily was killed after the sixth game, and Sigma more or less got his wish of a human-free world, since they all died and were replaced by robots.]]

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* If you follow the plot of the main series timeline, things progress thus: [[spoiler:the original series has ''VideoGame/MegaManClassic'' vs. Dr. Wily, with the latter never being executed for his actions. Eventually, Doctors Light and Wily make their final works, X and Zero, with the Maverick virus created sometime in the interim (it's implied it was Wily's doing, but never confirmed) and getting into Zero. The ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' series has the virus absorbed from Zero into Sigma, the latter screwed around when fighting Zero instead of doing a quick kill with his beam saber like he's supposed to, and thus becomes the new BigBad and spreads the new Maverick virus. The virus is defeated with Cyber Elves, but the source of said Elves is taken over by Dr. Weil, causing the Elf Wars that ravage the Earth and kill off billions of humans and reploids. Again, the human villain is not executed (in fact, [[ThePunishment his punishment]] is ''[[AndIMustScream the]] [[WhoWantsToLiveForever exact]] '''[[AndIMustScream opposite]]''''' of an execution), leading us to the ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series. After that, humanity and reploids merge into a single species seen in the ''VideoGame/MegaManZX'' series. In the ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends'' series, it's revealed that humanity has been entirely replaced by Carbons, robots [[ArtificialHuman artifically created humans]] that perfectly mimic humans. The last true human died before the series started. So, because humanity couldn't put down the human villains, or more broadly because neither political nor military leaders do the smart solutions with psychopaths, not only did humanity eventually die, but the original villains were partially vindicated: Dr. Wily ended the robot war and changed the world through Zero, who would never have been built if Wily was killed after the sixth game, and Sigma more or less got his wish of a human-free world, since they all died and were replaced by robots.]]



** From ZX to Legends: In the secret ending of ZXA, Master Thomas stated that the world needs to be reset. In Legends, after the great flood, there were no humans left, save for the master himself; the rest of the world was populated with carbons, a race of robots that basically had the specs of a human. In essence, the entirety of humanity was sacrificed in order for reploids to evolve into the ultimate goal: becoming the same as humans, by basically replacing them.
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* I was playing ''Mega Man 3'' the other day, and I remember thinking to myself, "What kind of a stupid name for a dog is Rush? I mean, he's not exactly fast (seriously, Rush Jet goes, like, five miles an hour), and he certainly doesn't hurry Mega Man along, so what the hell?" Just today, it dawned on me. The ''Mega Man'' series is known for its musical ThemeNaming, and then there's that one [[Music/{{Rush}} really awesome progressive rock band from the 70's and 80's...]]

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* I was playing ''Mega Man 3'' the other day, and I remember thinking to myself, "What kind of a stupid name for a dog is Rush? I mean, he's not exactly fast (seriously, Rush Jet goes, like, five miles an hour), and he certainly doesn't hurry Mega Man along, so what the hell?" Just today, it dawned on me. The ''Mega Man'' series is known for its musical ThemeNaming, and then there's that one [[Music/{{Rush}} [[Music/RushBand really awesome progressive rock band from the 70's and 80's...]]
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* The Amazons were a group of female fighters in Greek mythology who were inspired by the horse cultures of the Eurasian Steppes, which could easily explain the Greek Centaur Man's GenderFlip in the manga of ''VideoGame/MegaMan6''.
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*** The Repliforce was indicted because they were framed and [[IdiotBall they themselves]] [[WhatAnIdiot undermined]] the efforts to exonerate themselves all because of a [[HonorBeforeReason massive robotic dick-waggling contest on their part]]. As for Lumine: [[HollywoodEvolution EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!]]

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*** The Repliforce was indicted because they were framed and [[IdiotBall they themselves]] [[WhatAnIdiot themselves undermined]] the efforts to exonerate themselves all because of a [[HonorBeforeReason massive robotic dick-waggling contest on their part]]. As for Lumine: [[HollywoodEvolution EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!!]]
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*** Oh God... that makes Dr. Weil [[UpToEleven even more terrifying.]] How? Because it means he had a good reason behind his FantasticRacism. ''[[WellIntentionedExtremist He]] [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope had]]'' '''JUSTIFICATION.'''

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*** Oh God... that makes Dr. Weil [[UpToEleven even more terrifying.]] terrifying. How? Because it means he had a good reason behind his FantasticRacism. ''[[WellIntentionedExtremist He]] [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope had]]'' '''JUSTIFICATION.'''
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* With Battle Network confirming that Dr. light's focus was software and Dr. Wily's was hardware, a lot of things in the Classic series make more sense. Megaman is really good at fighting other robots because Dr. Light's advanced programming allows him to develop better strategies. Dr. Wily isn't nearly as good at programming, so his robots have simple, predictable patterns. This is also why many of his robots like Bass and King go rouge easily, since their programming isn't as good they have an easy time finding loopholes. And while Wily is able to crank out new robot masters like it's nothing, Dr. Light takes much longer to build new robots and make upgrades for Megaman, sometimes needing assistance from others like Dr. Cossack. This even gets brought up in ''VideoGame/MegaMan11'' where Dr. Light points out that Megaman is so powerful because ''both'' of them built him.

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* With Battle Network confirming that Dr. light's focus was software and Dr. Wily's was hardware, a lot of things in the Classic series make more sense. Megaman is really good at fighting other robots because Dr. Light's advanced programming allows him to develop better strategies. Dr. Wily isn't nearly as good at programming, so his robots have simple, predictable patterns. This is also why many of his robots like Bass and King go rouge rogue easily, since their programming isn't as good they have an easy time finding loopholes. And while Wily is able to crank out new robot masters like it's nothing, Dr. Light takes much longer to build new robots and make upgrades for Megaman, sometimes needing assistance from others like Dr. Cossack. This even gets brought up in ''VideoGame/MegaMan11'' where Dr. Light points out that Megaman is so powerful because ''both'' of them built him.

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