Dethroning Moment: Movie Bob
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- Kingbacon: I used to be one of the few people who had no qualms with Movie Bob. I like his snarky and in depth analysis of pop culture and nerd behavior. However, I will never forgive him for saying what he did in his episode JUNK DRAWER: GAME ON, where he suggested that the only difference between console, handheld, and PC video games and the interactive bile that is App gaming are buttons. As if to say Apps COULD ever, SHOULD ever, or WOULD ever replace actual video games! Other than that, I really have no beef with the guy other than the fact that he liked Frozen.
- Data Snake: When he said that Arkham City was just as sexist as Other M and the only reason people were more critical of Other M is because it was a Wii game made by a Japanese studio.
- Storm Kensho: Bob's "Heavens to Metroid" video, which was the video he made defending the notorious Metroid: Other M from its critics, had great potential to be a polarizing but fair video, going over the game's merits while also acknowledging known criticisms of the work while giving his own take on them. What did it turn out to be? Well, to paraphrase Bob's arguments: "If you don't like Metroid Other M, it's because you're a xenophobic feminazi who can't stomach Samus taking orders from a MAN!" That summation could qualify as a DMOS by itself, but the absolute and most disgusting nadir of the video, the moment where I could no longer count myself as a Movie Bob fan, was when he attacked the superb Metroid Prime seriesnote because they were First-Person Shooters, which are "everything that's wrong with the gaming industry." While he's not entirely wrong in that regard, the Metroid Prime series is an example of FPS done wellnote . And to lump those superb games in with the likes of Call of Duty, Battlefield, and other shallow FPS games simply because they share a genre is not only ridiculous and disingenuous, it's also downright prejudicial and moronic. Bob, I get it: You're being intentionally provocative with your content as a means of drawing attention to yourself and making money while also expressing your opinion; But when you're actively slandering a series of games that are widely considered to be among the best games ever made in the Sixth Generation if not overallnote because the game you like doesn't stack up, you're just going to make yourself look like a complete and utter fool.
- Jonn: "Magneto Was Right" is him saying nerds identify with the X-Men because they're oppressed special people. The metaphor is problematic, as noted elsewhere, since the average X-Man has enough power to kill people easily. He then goes on to decry "anti-intellectualism" in the media, such as Jersey Shore and My Name Is Earl. Problem is, the former is arguably tongue in cheek, and the latter definitely is. People don't watch those shows because they look up to the characters, they watch them because they want to see the idiots making idiots of themselves. What are fools for, if not to laugh at? And there are plenty of nerds who are just nerds, not particularly smart. Given the other complaints here, I'm starting to think I was right in my assumption that Moviebob is either a jerk, a troll, or both.
- randomfox : A while back he did a two part episode about the Sonic series. It was understandably and predictably somber, and while he spent a good half of it jerking off Nintendo (what a surprise) the real kicker for me was when he started giving recommendations on how to "fix" the series. Out of the two, the one he elaborated on being a reboot of the franchise wherein the suggested plot was a combination of two bad movies, the big moment was his suggestion that they make Robotnik a credible villain by having him kill all the side characters, sounding especially elated when suggesting killing off Cream The Rabbit. First off, when has alienating a series existing fans and going for a sudden grimdark approach ever been successful? And even if you don't like all the peripheral side characters, which even fans are having trouble defending at this point, it's really sickening to hear an earnest suggestion to kill a six year old girl. It was bad enough (and oh, was it ever) when DC decided to do it; there is absolutely no need for Sega to go the same route. Besides, who in their right mind would actually want them to?
- G Zillafan 77: in The Expendables review, he states that only machoo idiots would like it, which he claims are the worst kind of people. He also makes blanketed statements on way he dosen't like it. Only that the jokes aren't funny and the action sucks. The whole thing could be stated as "The Expendables sucks and you suck for watching it instead of Scott Pilgrim!"
- gameragodzilla: I also agree. He never actually backs up anything that he says, only that he says the action was bad and the jokes were unfunny, something that quite a lot of people disagree with (considering how both movies topped the box office when they came out and made an absolute killing overseas). What is even stupider is that Moviebob claims that modern action movies are better than 1980's action movies, despite modern movies employing Shaky Cam and quick cuts that obscure the action to the point of incomprehensibility. Yeah, real improvement there. Seriously, I think that the only reason Moviebob hates this series so much is because of how poorly Scott Pilgrim did in comparison, because almost every time he mentions this movie, it's in comparison with Scott Pilgrim. BTW, this is coming from someone who seen and liked both Expendables and Scott Pilgrim.
- Kasumiwumi: When he spent seven minutes wangsting about The Amazing Spider-Man 2, calling it the movie that "broke" him. This would be fine by itself- just a guy bitching about what he thought was a bad Spider-Man film, if he didn't spend the following Friday saying that everyone is wrong about Spider-Man 3. Not only that, but he's gone on record as essentially having a fan-boner for Sam Raimi in general, so it's annoying to see him basically shrugging off anything TASM2 did that was good, and doing the same thing for anything Sam Raimi's films did that was bad. It's a huge, glaringly-obvious bias.
- Xander VJ: In his "You're wrong about Spider-Man 3" commentary, the part where he defends the infamous "emo-Peter" scenes. He claims that this is Peter trying to be badass, and the reason why he behaves like that is because he's a hopeless dweeby geek that has no point of reference of what an actual badass is like, so he goes with what he "thinks" it is. Not only is that insulting to geeks in general (specially considering the patronizing tone of the whole video), but also it doesn't make any sense whatsoever, neither in the context of the movie nor of the Spider-Man mythos. What the black suit is supposed to do is to enhance negative emotions, particularly rage. Since when feeling angry compels you to try to behave like a badass in the middle of the street for no goddamn reason? Considering Bob's infamous contempt for the "bro-like" concept of badass, one can't help wondering if he's just projecting.
- Larkmarn: I still like Bob, but the "You Are Wrong About Spider-Man 3" was condescending to a just comical degree. It's the name alone says it all: our opinion is wrong and Raimi did everything perfect. It could have been a decent video if it were simply considered "A Defense Of Spider-Man 3" but instead it's "you're all wrong, you just don't get it, you philistines."
- Shark Toast: I stopped watching the video when he insulted people who thought the Raimi films were campy, calling them sad.
- Main Man J: "Leave Micheal Bay Alone". The prospect of him taking back his hostility towards Bay is an admirable one (one he already did in his True Grit review) and it explains the uncharacteristically positive and civil Age of Extinction review. The problem is he attacks everyone else instead just as bad. He attacks other film critics for giving their opinions for a living when that's what he himself does. He accuses critics and movie fans alike of a double standard by pointing out all the great genre directors who each do one thing Bay does as if that was an equal comparison (or the movies of Jackson, Raimi and even Hitchcock weren't so much better films). He pretty much lost me when he implied Jackson's LotR films and Hobbit films were full of "juvenile humor" beyond what the genre would warrant. And once again he blames the audience, which is a blatant double standard. Hey, Bob, we're human beings too! And we didn't even make the films! Why's it ok to personally attack us instead of Bay? Yeah, sorry Scott Pilgrim bombed, and Pacific Rim underperformed, but not everyone loves the Transformers films. Plus all the Marvel stuff makes gobs of money so shouldn't those by that logic be trash too? The video oozes that same "holier than thou" attitude that's a recurring vibe in Bob's videos and nearly every other entry on this page.
- Co Cage: The review of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014). Bob does the same thing he did in his reviews of The Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2, saying that he never held any bias towards the new movie. This is his bullshit at its finest, because of all his disdain for the movie is in Bobís previous blog posts; long before the film came out. The whole ninja turtles are aliensí rumors being the start. He then goes on to say itís worse than Turtles III and the The Next Mutation (big YMMV). There is some huge contradiction, because once again, in a previous blog post/Big Picture episode he said that the third movie should never be mentioned considering how lazy and bad it turned out. The worst part is him adding or making up flaws that werenít in the movie. He goes on to say April got too much focus and was horribly played by Megan Fox. The former is not true, as she and the turtles get nearly an equal amount of screen time, and the latter is once again, YMMV. The movie does start a little slow and I would have preferred someone else, but Fox does a decent job. The other is an exaggerated flaw of Michelangelo always being ďhorny for AprilĒ. It is true Mikey is always the jokester, but the only time he usually puts the moves on April is when itís not a serious scene. Even then the other turtles tell him to knock it off, just like in most other continuities. When things get serious he gets his act together. This is hypocritical considering Donatello is guilty of doing the same thing in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012). Always trying to impress April and hugely crushing on her. Something a lot of fans got tired of by end of the first and second season. For the record, I don't care much for the new Spider-Man Films and am neutral about Michael Bay at best (Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen being the exception), but Bob, if you are not going to bother giving a movie you don't like from the start a chance, donít lie and make shit up. Seriously, his review comes up as a Bay hating checklist and ends with him saying that heís done with being nice to the director. Not to mention acting like a whiny little prick for the film not being like the previous movies. Seeing this video, he is no longer a serious movie reviewer or a video game commentator in my eyes (even back then I had my doubts). This video is just a testament to everything wrong with him.
- Spectral Time: His long, passionate attack on the "Retake Mass Effect" movement, which went on for more than a month and included even completely-unrelated videos such as his review of The Cabin in the Woods, hit its nadir with Bob's discussion of how he feels art should work. It's not only that he openly, proudly admitted his complete lack of research or knowledge about the series (and while he did watch the ending eventually, surely one must admit that watching an ending without context is very different from actually having an artistic experience capped by an ending), or that he refused to engage with the reasonable majority of the movement, instead responding to absurd, over-the-top self-furnished complaints so disconnected from the realities of their concerns that "debunking" them proved nothing, or his out-of-hand dismissal of "player driven narrative" having the potential for artistic value ("No one ever won a Pulitzer for a f@#$ing Choose Your Own Adventure novel!"), or even that he ludicrously exaggerates the importance of the conflict with apocalyptic promises that it's somehow set back gaming as an artistic medium by decades. Heck, let's not even bring up his open and problematic belief that every "gamer" is an Acceptable Target, an intellectual oyster out to force game designers to water down their vision and make every game more like CoD to avoid creative risks.
No, the worst part of the whole debacle is what it reveals about Bob's mindset; a series of ugly, elitist opinions about the way audiences should be subordinate, prostrating themselves before the Great Artist, passively absorbing the opinions and themes of that Artist without ever questioning or thinking about them, gratefully accepting themselves as his inferiors and receiving his Great Thoughts without sullying them with their own. This is, to be blunt, a fucked and archaic view of art theory that's been rightly left on the rubbish heap of intellectual thought for years, and Bob trying to re-light the pyre because in his mind any gamer-led movement must consist entirely of fratboys and harassment-minded stalkers casts him in the worst light of almost anything he's ever done.
- klom99: Has anyone noticed the new overly-aggressive demeanor Bob's taken to his reviews since his leaving The Escapist? While he was succinct, candid, yet professional about movies before; he now has this cantankerous, grumpy attitude to the movies he hates. Whether it's new metaphors for "shit" or consistent Take That, Audience! jabs coming up at the start and end of his reviews, he feels much more antagonistic than before. His Pixels review made me literally uncomfortable with how foul-mouthed and seething it was. I don't blame him for hating the movie in the slightest, but did he have to come up with copious amounts of ways he'd like to destroy the movie? And did he really have to pull the Take That, Audience! at the end?(I get him getting caught up in the moment, but he did this for Fantastic Four (2015) too; so it didn't seem like some random fluke, it came off planned.)
- Hermes3: I agree. What was a fairly professional show has since devolved into how many ways can he turn a vulgar phrase. My problem with Movie Bob is that he tends to hurl insults at the movie and/or fandom and/or political group without backing up his statements. For example, in his review Fantastic Four (2015), he just waved off fan criticism of the new film's casting of a black actor for a canonically white role as being racist. Nevermind that the film ignored several decades of canon. He also has a tendency to be whiney. He spent time in a YouTube series about movies to complain about how the space program was canceled and how he would rather have cities on Mars rather than world peace because humanity did nothing for him. That, coupled with his general condescending tone and his self-pitying autobiography, he has made it difficult for those who would like him and learn from his insight to do so.