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* ADayInTheLimelight: The story focuses on Uatu more than most times.

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* ADayInTheLimelight: ADeathInTheLimelight: The story focuses on Uatu more than most times.times. Specifically, it focuses on his assassination.
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* BigWhat: Kitty does this when She-Hulk reads off the name [[spoiler: "Raven Darkholme"]] as Charles Xavier's wife, realizing who that name was.

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* BigWhat: Kitty does this when She-Hulk reads off the name [[spoiler: "Raven [[spoiler:"Raven Darkholme"]] as Charles Xavier's wife, realizing who that name was.



* ConservationOfNinjitsu: During his battle against [[spoiler: the Avengers]], Iron Man manages to hold his own. His remote-controlled armors, on the other hand? Unceremoniously thrashed.
** In Issue 6, [[spoiler: Both the Avengers and Fury's team easily take down the [=LMDs=] of Fury.]]
** In Issue 7, [[spoiler: Fury turns around and lays out the Avengers.]]

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* ConservationOfNinjitsu: During his battle against [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Avengers]], Iron Man manages to hold his own. His remote-controlled armors, on the other hand? Unceremoniously thrashed.
** In Issue 6, [[spoiler: Both [[spoiler:Both the Avengers and Fury's team easily take down the [=LMDs=] of Fury.]]
** In Issue 7, [[spoiler: Fury [[spoiler:Fury turns around and lays out the Avengers.]]



** Additionally, the last time [[spoiler: Exterminatrix]] was seen, she had violently rejected [[spoiler: her father, Dr. Midas]]. Here, she's once again loyally serving [[spoiler: Midas]] without much explanation.

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** Additionally, the last time [[spoiler: Exterminatrix]] [[spoiler:Exterminatrix]] was seen, she had violently rejected [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her father, Dr. Midas]]. Here, she's once again loyally serving [[spoiler: Midas]] [[spoiler:Midas]] without much explanation.



** ComicBook/TheAvengers vs. ComicBook/NewAvengers: Captain America [[spoiler: regains his memories of the Illuminati Mind Wiping him]].
** ComicBook/MightyAvengers: Who were the Avengers of the 1970s and what does Luke Cage have to do with them? [[spoiler: The '70s Mighty Avengers were accidentally formed by Luke Cage's dad and his reporter friend finding Kaluu, Blue Marvel and Blade in a morgue dealing with lycanthropes belonging to a doomsday cult. The old gang is reforming for some unfinished business...]]

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** ComicBook/TheAvengers vs. ComicBook/NewAvengers: Captain America [[spoiler: regains [[spoiler:regains his memories of the Illuminati Mind Wiping him]].
** ComicBook/MightyAvengers: Who were the Avengers of the 1970s and what does Luke Cage have to do with them? [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The '70s Mighty Avengers were accidentally formed by Luke Cage's dad and his reporter friend finding Kaluu, Blue Marvel and Blade in a morgue dealing with lycanthropes belonging to a doomsday cult. The old gang is reforming for some unfinished business...]]



** ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}: The secret origin of Wade Wilson! And who is Wade's daughter? [[spoiler: Wade was forced to murder his own parents after being MindRaped by Butler, which also explains his MultipleChoicePast. He also fathered a daughter named Ellie, who was living with Butler's brother.]]

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** ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}: The secret origin of Wade Wilson! And who is Wade's daughter? [[spoiler: Wade [[spoiler:Wade was forced to murder his own parents after being MindRaped by Butler, which also explains his MultipleChoicePast. He also fathered a daughter named Ellie, who was living with Butler's brother.]]



** All-New [[ComicBook/TheInvadersMarvelComics Invaders]]: What do Spitfire, ComicBook/HumanTorch1939 and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] have to do with the UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki that ended UsefulNotes/WorldWarII? And what did this have to do with Golden Girl, the team's Japanese-American member? [[spoiler: The bombings could have been prevented had Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos not convinced the Invaders not to attack the Japanese islands directly. With the Invaders' refusal, the government turned to the atomic bomb as a replacement-- which the team wasn't aware of.]]

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** All-New [[ComicBook/TheInvadersMarvelComics Invaders]]: What do Spitfire, ComicBook/HumanTorch1939 and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] have to do with the UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki that ended UsefulNotes/WorldWarII? And what did this have to do with Golden Girl, the team's Japanese-American member? [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The bombings could have been prevented had Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos not convinced the Invaders not to attack the Japanese islands directly. With the Invaders' refusal, the government turned to the atomic bomb as a replacement-- which the team wasn't aware of.]]



** ComicBook/{{Nova}}: What happened to the current Nova's father? (Also see the Guardians of the Galaxy's secret, which concerns the previous Nova.) [[spoiler: He was thought to be a Nova-killing mass murderer, but was really revealed to be an undercover operative for the Nova Corps.]]
** Franchise/SpiderMan: A second person was bitten by the spider who gave Peter his powers. Who is she? [[spoiler:Her name is Silk and Morlun is drawn to her because of her greater connection to the Spider-Totem]].

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** ComicBook/{{Nova}}: What happened to the current Nova's father? (Also see the Guardians of the Galaxy's secret, which concerns the previous Nova.) [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He was thought to be a Nova-killing mass murderer, but was really revealed to be an undercover operative for the Nova Corps.]]
** Franchise/SpiderMan: ComicBook/SpiderMan: A second person was bitten by the spider who gave Peter his powers. Who is she? [[spoiler:Her name is Silk and Morlun is drawn to her because of her greater connection to the Spider-Totem]].



** ComicBook/XMen: What is Xavier's Last Will and Testament? [[spoiler: Xavier, at one point, made out his will to give his possessions to his wife... Mystique?! The true sin, however, is that he liberally "lobotomized" a young mutant to protect others due to the fact that he was so powerful. Charles also refused to give him to S.H.I.E.L.D. or Captain America, as they wouldn't help him at all.]]

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** ComicBook/XMen: What is Xavier's Last Will and Testament? [[spoiler: Xavier, [[spoiler:Xavier, at one point, made out his will to give his possessions to his wife... Mystique?! The true sin, however, is that he liberally "lobotomized" a young mutant to protect others due to the fact that he was so powerful. Charles also refused to give him to S.H.I.E.L.D. or Captain America, as they wouldn't help him at all.]]



* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: A Mindless One ends up gaining sentience and, horrified by what he did and what he saw, kills himself with the Ultimate Nullifier, much to Ben Grimm and Spider-Man's dismay.]]

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* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: A [[spoiler:A Mindless One ends up gaining sentience and, horrified by what he did and what he saw, kills himself with the Ultimate Nullifier, much to Ben Grimm and Spider-Man's dismay.]]



** [[spoiler: That's how the Watcher dies. Midas and company took only one eye and Uatu was still alive. He needed someone to go after Midas with his other eye, but doing so would break his vow so when he confronted Nick Fury, he powered up and approached in a threatening manner. This forced Nick to shoot Uatu, so Uatu essentially committed SuicideByCop.]]

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** [[spoiler: That's [[spoiler:That's how the Watcher dies. Midas and company took only one eye and Uatu was still alive. He needed someone to go after Midas with his other eye, but doing so would break his vow so when he confronted Nick Fury, he powered up and approached in a threatening manner. This forced Nick to shoot Uatu, so Uatu essentially committed SuicideByCop.]]



* FromNobodyToNightmare: The Orb, Exterminatrix, and Doctor Midas are all thoroughly Z-list villains who even hardcore comic fans would have a hard time recognizing. They managed to [[spoiler: raid the Watcher's home, steal his eye, and then release a literal bomb of secrets throughout the world]].

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* FromNobodyToNightmare: The Orb, Exterminatrix, and Doctor Midas are all thoroughly Z-list villains who even hardcore comic fans would have a hard time recognizing. They managed to [[spoiler: raid [[spoiler:raid the Watcher's home, steal his eye, and then release a literal bomb of secrets throughout the world]].



** In Issue 6, [[spoiler: when the Avengers invade the real Nick Fury's base, he suits up in powered armor and wields both of the Watcher's eyes, ready to fight them back.]]

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** In Issue 6, [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when the Avengers invade the real Nick Fury's base, he suits up in powered armor and wields both of the Watcher's eyes, ready to fight them back.]]



* MyFriendsAndZoidberg: Everyone who shows up at [[spoiler: Nick Fury]]'s secret base were all there because of [[spoiler:Fury]]'s intricate plan. Except for Rocket Raccoon who was there by chance because Gamora and Moon Knight needed a ride after Bucky stranded them in deep space.
* MythologyGag: Iron Man being involved in the creation of the Hulk was previously used in the ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'' storyline, [[spoiler: though in a much more benevolent way here.]]

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* MyFriendsAndZoidberg: Everyone who shows up at [[spoiler: Nick [[spoiler:Nick Fury]]'s secret base were all there because of [[spoiler:Fury]]'s intricate plan. Except for Rocket Raccoon who was there by chance because Gamora and Moon Knight needed a ride after Bucky stranded them in deep space.
* MythologyGag: Iron Man being involved in the creation of the Hulk was previously used in the ''ComicBook/HeroesReborn'' storyline, [[spoiler: though [[spoiler:though in a much more benevolent way here.]]



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: In the ''Invaders'' tie-in, it's revealed that the Invaders had a chance to defeat Japan without dropping the Atom Bombs, but chose not to go through with it. The eventual explanation given is that [[spoiler: Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos purposefully sabotaged the plan, as it would've endangered the lives of a bunch of native islanders living near the Japanese coast. The plan's failure is what led to PresidentUsefulNotes/HarryTruman's decision to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, resulting in far more civilian deaths than would have occurred had Golden Girl not interfered]]. Radiance, Golden Girl's granddaughter, goes berserk when she learns this.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: In the ''Invaders'' tie-in, it's revealed that the Invaders had a chance to defeat Japan without dropping the Atom Bombs, but chose not to go through with it. The eventual explanation given is that [[spoiler: Golden [[spoiler:Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos purposefully sabotaged the plan, as it would've endangered the lives of a bunch of native islanders living near the Japanese coast. The plan's failure is what led to PresidentUsefulNotes/HarryTruman's decision to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, resulting in far more civilian deaths than would have occurred had Golden Girl not interfered]]. Radiance, Golden Girl's granddaughter, goes berserk when she learns this.



** In Issue 7, [[spoiler: Old Nick Fury realizes that everyone is so focused on him, they don't notice a gathering of Watchers overhead.]]

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** In Issue 7, [[spoiler: Old [[spoiler:Old Nick Fury realizes that everyone is so focused on him, they don't notice a gathering of Watchers overhead.]]



* TakeUpMySword: The reason why Scott Lang, Emma Frost, the Punisher, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Moon Knight, Bucky, and Gamora were chosen: [[spoiler: the real Nick Fury is dying and he wants someone else to take up his mission to protect the world from alien invaders by any means necessary.]]

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* TakeUpMySword: The reason why Scott Lang, Emma Frost, the Punisher, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Moon Knight, Bucky, and Gamora were chosen: [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the real Nick Fury is dying and he wants someone else to take up his mission to protect the world from alien invaders by any means necessary.]]



* WhamLine: [[spoiler: Whatever Old Nick Fury told Thor was so powerful, it instantly made {{Mjolnir}} declare not just him, but his whole freaking species, unworthy. It was later revealed to be Fury (and Uatu) declared that Gorr was right about gods.]]

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* WhamLine: [[spoiler: Whatever [[spoiler:Whatever Old Nick Fury told Thor was so powerful, it instantly made {{Mjolnir}} declare not just him, but his whole freaking species, unworthy. It was later revealed to be Fury (and Uatu) declared that Gorr was right about gods.]]



** Issue #3: [[spoiler: Winter Soldier, Moon Knight and Gamora find another victim: a living planet.]]
** Issue #4: [[spoiler: A much older Nick Fury appears flanked by several Nick Fury [=LMDs=].]]

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** Issue #3: [[spoiler: Winter [[spoiler:Winter Soldier, Moon Knight and Gamora find another victim: a living planet.]]
** Issue #4: [[spoiler: A [[spoiler:A much older Nick Fury appears flanked by several Nick Fury [=LMDs=].]]



** [[spoiler: When the heroes find out that Nick Fury was the one killing all the various creatures with the gamma bullets. You know it's bad when Doctor Strange calls you out]]

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** [[spoiler: When [[spoiler:When the heroes find out that Nick Fury was the one killing all the various creatures with the gamma bullets. You know it's bad when Doctor Strange calls you out]]
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The storyline starts in May 2014 and connects through many comics, including ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'', ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'', ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' and more, promising big changes for many heroes and picking up on plot threads that started as early as the beginning of the Comicbook/MarvelNOW initiative.

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The storyline starts in May 2014 and connects through many comics, including ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'', ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'', ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' and more, promising big changes for many heroes and picking up on plot threads that started as early as the beginning of the Comicbook/MarvelNOW ComicBook/MarvelNOW initiative.



* ContinuityNod: When Daredevil arrives in Wakanda, he mentions that he can't seem to reach his old buddy Black Panther. Readers of ''Comicbook/NewAvengers'' know this is because Panther and Comicbook/TheIlluminati are busy working on a solution to the Incursion problem.

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* ContinuityNod: When Daredevil arrives in Wakanda, he mentions that he can't seem to reach his old buddy Black Panther. Readers of ''Comicbook/NewAvengers'' ''ComicBook/NewAvengers'' know this is because Panther and Comicbook/TheIlluminati [[Characters/MarvelComicsTheIlluminati The Illuminati]] are busy working on a solution to the Incursion problem.



* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. [[EvilAllAlong Guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. [[spoiler:Dum-Dum Dugan]] arguably gets it even worse, since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.

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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. [[EvilAllAlong Guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] {{Eldritch Abomination}}s! Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. [[spoiler:Dum-Dum Dugan]] arguably gets it even worse, since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.



* UnusualChapterNumbers: Not the main series but the tie-in minies. Those are named like ''Original Sin X.Y'', where Y is the normal issue number in the mini nothing to see there, but X is generally ''not'' the issue they come after in the event, but the one they come after in the series they tie into. So ''Original Sin 5.1'' doesn't come after ''Original Sin'' 5, it comes after '''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard''' 5.

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* UnusualChapterNumbers: Not the main series but the tie-in minies. Those are named like ''Original Sin X.Y'', where Y is the normal issue number in the mini nothing to see there, but X is generally ''not'' the issue they come after in the event, but the one they come after in the series they tie into. So ''Original Sin 5.1'' doesn't come after ''Original Sin'' 5, it comes after '''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard''' '''ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard''' 5.



* WolverinePublicity: Rocket Raccoon shows up to help Gamora and the others for pretty much no other reason than the fact that he [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy had a movie in theaters around that time]].

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* WolverinePublicity: Rocket Raccoon shows up to help Gamora and the others for pretty much no other reason than the fact that he [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2014 had a movie in theaters around that time]].
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** ComicBook/{{Thor}}: What does ComicBook/{{Angela|AsgardsAssassin}} have to do with Thor? And what is the Tenth Realm? [[spoiler:Angela is Thor's older sister and her real name is Aldrif. The Tenth realm is populated with angelic beings who once waged war against Asgard and raised Angela as one of their own.]]

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** ComicBook/{{Thor}}: [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]: What does ComicBook/{{Angela|AsgardsAssassin}} have to do with Thor? And what is the Tenth Realm? [[spoiler:Angela is Thor's older sister and her real name is Aldrif. The Tenth realm is populated with angelic beings who once waged war against Asgard and raised Angela as one of their own.]]
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** ComicBook/IncredibleHulk vs. ComicBook/IronMan: Did Tony Stark have a hand in creating the Hulk? [[spoiler:A drunken Tony Stark sabotaged Bruce's Gamma Bomb after an argument between the two, but ultimately allowed it to have a ''smaller'' yield than it would have otherwise, making the damage less than it otherwise would be. Due to said argument, [[PoorCommunicationKills Bruce deleted an email explaining what Tony had done without reading it and blocked further emails]], resulting in him not knowing what had occurred, including Tony's speculation that if the bomb didn't kill a living being, it could cause significant mutations instead.]] In the end, [[spoiler:Tony keeps the part about the e-mails from Bruce, realizing that if Bruce knew that he could have avoided becoming the Hulk by reading the e-mails, the guilt and self-recrimination would shatter him.]]

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** ComicBook/IncredibleHulk ComicBook/IronMan vs. ComicBook/IronMan: [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]]: Did Tony Stark have a hand in creating the Hulk? [[spoiler:A drunken Tony Stark sabotaged Bruce's Gamma Bomb after an argument between the two, but ultimately allowed it to have a ''smaller'' yield than it would have otherwise, making the damage less than it otherwise would be. Due to said argument, [[PoorCommunicationKills Bruce deleted an email explaining what Tony had done without reading it and blocked further emails]], resulting in him not knowing what had occurred, including Tony's speculation that if the bomb didn't kill a living being, it could cause significant mutations instead.]] In the end, [[spoiler:Tony keeps the part about the e-mails from Bruce, realizing that if Bruce knew that he could have avoided becoming the Hulk by reading the e-mails, the guilt and self-recrimination would shatter him.]]
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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. [[EvilAllAlong Guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. [[spoiler:Dum-Dum Dugan]] arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.

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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. [[EvilAllAlong Guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains. [[spoiler:Dum-Dum Dugan]] arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] worse, since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.

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* DueToTheDead: Uatu's wife Ulana does not mourn Uatu's death. She claims that Watchers treat the bodies of the deceased as just more objects to be observed. [[spoiler:That and she prefers to focus on the future instead: hers and Uatu's newborn.]]

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* DueToTheDead: Uatu's wife Ulana does not mourn Uatu's death. She claims that Watchers treat the bodies of the deceased as just more objects to be observed. [[spoiler:That and she prefers to focus on the future instead: hers and Uatu's newborn.]]newborn]].
* EveryoneHasStandards: [[spoiler:A flashback of Fury's career shows that he chose not to kill Spider-Man early in the hero's career despite the potential for the wall-crawler to be a threat according to his usual standards, demonstrating that Fury wasn't an indiscriminate killer]].



* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Dum-Dum Dugan gives Nick Fury one in a side-story, [[spoiler:when he learns Fury has been using Dugan [=LMDs=] because he couldn't let his friend go.]]

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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Dum-Dum Dugan gives Nick Fury one in a side-story, [[spoiler:when he learns Fury has been using Dugan [=LMDs=] because he couldn't let his friend go.]] Dugan dismisses this interpretation of Fury's actions and instead proclaims that he's basically just there to make Fury feel bad about things, as Fury can tell himself he isn't a villain if he still feels guilty about the original Dugan's death]].



* StartOfDarkness: One of the storylines is diving into the mysterious past of Deadpool.
* SuicideByCop: [[spoiler:How the Watcher is killed. Midas attacked him and took an eye, with Fury finding him sometime later. However, the Watcher goads Fury into killing him, leading him to take the other eye.]]

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* StartOfDarkness: One of the storylines is diving dives into the mysterious past of Deadpool.
* SuicideByCop: [[spoiler:How the Watcher is killed. Midas attacked him and took an eye, with Fury finding him sometime later. However, the Watcher goads Fury into killing him, leading him to take the other eye.]]eye, as his oath would have prevented Uatu taking action against his original attackers himself]].



* TooDumbToLive: A random civilian ends up with a majorly dark secret of Doctor Doom and decides he's going to try to use it against him. He ends up having his friends killed, his bank destroyed and leaving him to an uncertain fate.

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* TooDumbToLive: A random civilian ends up with a majorly dark secret of Doctor Doom and decides he's going to try to use it against him. He ends up having As he goes to meet Doom with his blackmail material, he receives calls informing him that his friends killed, have been killed and his bank destroyed and destroyed, leaving him to an uncertain fate.fate before he even comes face-to-face with Doom.
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** All-New [[ComicBook/TheInvadersMarvel Invaders]]: What do Spitfire, ComicBook/HumanTorch1939 and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] have to do with the UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki that ended UsefulNotes/WorldWarII? And what did this have to do with Golden Girl, the team's Japanese-American member? [[spoiler: The bombings could have been prevented had Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos not convinced the Invaders not to attack the Japanese islands directly. With the Invaders' refusal, the government turned to the atomic bomb as a replacement-- which the team wasn't aware of.]]

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** All-New [[ComicBook/TheInvadersMarvel [[ComicBook/TheInvadersMarvelComics Invaders]]: What do Spitfire, ComicBook/HumanTorch1939 and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] have to do with the UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki that ended UsefulNotes/WorldWarII? And what did this have to do with Golden Girl, the team's Japanese-American member? [[spoiler: The bombings could have been prevented had Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos not convinced the Invaders not to attack the Japanese islands directly. With the Invaders' refusal, the government turned to the atomic bomb as a replacement-- which the team wasn't aware of.]]
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** ComicBook/{{Thor}}: What does [[ComicBook/AngelaMarvelComics Angela]] have to do with Thor? And what is the Tenth Realm? [[spoiler:Angela is Thor's older sister and her real name is Aldrif. The Tenth realm is populated with angelic beings who once waged war against Asgard and raised Angela as one of their own.]]

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** ComicBook/{{Thor}}: What does [[ComicBook/AngelaMarvelComics Angela]] ComicBook/{{Angela|AsgardsAssassin}} have to do with Thor? And what is the Tenth Realm? [[spoiler:Angela is Thor's older sister and her real name is Aldrif. The Tenth realm is populated with angelic beings who once waged war against Asgard and raised Angela as one of their own.]]
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''Everyone has one''.

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''Everyone ->''Everyone has one''.
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-->'''Tony:''' It'd kill him to know that he could have stopped it if [[spoiler:he'd just read an e-mail. It'd kill him to know that he could have stopped it if he was ''[[NotSoDifferent less like me]]''. {{Pride}}. It's a top-seven original sin]].

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-->'''Tony:''' It'd kill him to know that he could have stopped it if [[spoiler:he'd just read an e-mail. It'd kill him to know that he could have stopped it if he was ''[[NotSoDifferent ''[[NotSoDifferentRemark less like me]]''. {{Pride}}. It's a top-seven original sin]].
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dewicking Famous Last Words per TRS


* FamousLastWords:
** "I see you." His true last words: "It is time... for someone else to watch."
** [[spoiler:"Bucky... I never liked you, you sunuva..." From Nick Fury's Life Model Decoy.]]

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** All-New [[ComicBook/TheInvadersComicBook Invaders]]: What do Spitfire, the original Human Torch and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] have to do with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II? And what did this have to do with Golden Girl, the team's Japanese-American member? [[spoiler: The bombings could have been prevented had Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos not convinced the Invaders not to attack the Japanese islands directly. With the Invaders' refusal, the government turned to the atomic bomb as a replacement-- which the team wasn't aware of.]]

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** All-New [[ComicBook/TheInvadersComicBook [[ComicBook/TheInvadersMarvel Invaders]]: What do Spitfire, the original Human Torch ComicBook/HumanTorch1939 and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] have to do with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II? UsefulNotes/AtomicBombingsOfHiroshimaAndNagasaki that ended UsefulNotes/WorldWarII? And what did this have to do with Golden Girl, the team's Japanese-American member? [[spoiler: The bombings could have been prevented had Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos not convinced the Invaders not to attack the Japanese islands directly. With the Invaders' refusal, the government turned to the atomic bomb as a replacement-- which the team wasn't aware of.]]



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: In the ''Invaders'' tie-in, it's revealed that the Invaders had a chance to defeat Japan without dropping the Atom Bombs, but chose not to go through with it. The eventual explanation given is that [[spoiler: Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos purposefully sabotaged the plan, as it would've endangered the lives of a bunch of native islanders living near the Japanese coast. The plan's failure is what led to President Truman's decision to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, resulting in far more civilian deaths than would have occurred had Golden Girl not interfered]]. Radiance, Golden Girl's granddaughter, goes berserk when she learns this.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: In the ''Invaders'' tie-in, it's revealed that the Invaders had a chance to defeat Japan without dropping the Atom Bombs, but chose not to go through with it. The eventual explanation given is that [[spoiler: Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos purposefully sabotaged the plan, as it would've endangered the lives of a bunch of native islanders living near the Japanese coast. The plan's failure is what led to President Truman's PresidentUsefulNotes/HarryTruman's decision to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki, resulting in far more civilian deaths than would have occurred had Golden Girl not interfered]]. Radiance, Golden Girl's granddaughter, goes berserk when she learns this.



* YouKillItYouBoughtIt: [[spoiler:Uatu's killer Nick Fury is ultimately forced to take his place as The Unseen.]]

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* YouKillItYouBoughtIt: [[spoiler:Uatu's killer Nick Fury is ultimately forced to take his place as The Unseen.]]]]
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** All-New [[Comicbook/TheInvaders Invaders]]: What do Spitfire, the original Human Torch and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] have to do with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II? And what did this have to do with Golden Girl, the team's Japanese-American member? [[spoiler: The bombings could have been prevented had Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos not convinced the Invaders not to attack the Japanese islands directly. With the Invaders' refusal, the government turned to the atomic bomb as a replacement-- which the team wasn't aware of.]]

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** All-New [[Comicbook/TheInvaders [[ComicBook/TheInvadersComicBook Invaders]]: What do Spitfire, the original Human Torch and [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]] have to do with the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II? And what did this have to do with Golden Girl, the team's Japanese-American member? [[spoiler: The bombings could have been prevented had Golden Girl and the Kid Commandos not convinced the Invaders not to attack the Japanese islands directly. With the Invaders' refusal, the government turned to the atomic bomb as a replacement-- which the team wasn't aware of.]]
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** SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}: The secret origin of Wade Wilson! And who is Wade's daughter? [[spoiler: Wade was forced to murder his own parents after being MindRaped by Butler, which also explains his MultipleChoicePast. He also fathered a daughter named Ellie, who was living with Butler's brother.]]

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** SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}: ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}: The secret origin of Wade Wilson! And who is Wade's daughter? [[spoiler: Wade was forced to murder his own parents after being MindRaped by Butler, which also explains his MultipleChoicePast. He also fathered a daughter named Ellie, who was living with Butler's brother.]]
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* DepletedPhlebotinumShells: The Gamma-irradiated bullets.

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* DepletedPhlebotinumShells: The Gamma-irradiated bullets. They can kill practically ''anything'' in enough quantities, from extra-dimensional monsters to a living planet.
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* NamesTheSame: The X-Men titles have a tie-in but ''X-Men: Original Sin'' is not one of them.
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* NameTheSame: The X-Men titles have a tie-in but ''X-Men: Original Sin'' is not one of them.

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* NameTheSame: NamesTheSame: The X-Men titles have a tie-in but ''X-Men: Original Sin'' is not one of them.
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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed.[[EvilAllAlong Guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains]]. [[spoiler:Dum-Dum Dugan]] arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]

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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. [[EvilAllAlong Guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) Then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains]].chains. [[spoiler:Dum-Dum Dugan]] arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]

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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains]].\\\
[[spoiler:The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main Marvel Universe more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined. That said, Dum-Dum Dugan arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]

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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler: The original Nick Fury [[spoiler:Nick Fury]] basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is destroyed.[[EvilAllAlong guilty Guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then Then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains]].\\\
[[spoiler:The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main Marvel Universe more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined. That said, Dum-Dum Dugan
chains]]. [[spoiler:Dum-Dum Dugan]] arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]
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** ComicBook/{{Hulk}} vs. ComicBook/IronMan: Did Tony Stark have a hand in creating the Hulk? [[spoiler:A drunken Tony Stark sabotaged Bruce's Gamma Bomb after an argument between the two, but ultimately allowed it to have a ''smaller'' yield than it would have otherwise, making the damage less than it otherwise would be. Due to said argument, [[PoorCommunicationKills Bruce deleted an email explaining what Tony had done without reading it and blocked further emails]], resulting in him not knowing what had occurred, including Tony's speculation that if the bomb didn't kill a living being, it could cause significant mutations instead.]] In the end, [[spoiler:Tony keeps the part about the e-mails from Bruce, realizing that if Bruce knew that he could have avoided becoming the Hulk by reading the e-mails, the guilt and self-recrimination would shatter him.]]

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** ComicBook/{{Hulk}} ComicBook/IncredibleHulk vs. ComicBook/IronMan: Did Tony Stark have a hand in creating the Hulk? [[spoiler:A drunken Tony Stark sabotaged Bruce's Gamma Bomb after an argument between the two, but ultimately allowed it to have a ''smaller'' yield than it would have otherwise, making the damage less than it otherwise would be. Due to said argument, [[PoorCommunicationKills Bruce deleted an email explaining what Tony had done without reading it and blocked further emails]], resulting in him not knowing what had occurred, including Tony's speculation that if the bomb didn't kill a living being, it could cause significant mutations instead.]] In the end, [[spoiler:Tony keeps the part about the e-mails from Bruce, realizing that if Bruce knew that he could have avoided becoming the Hulk by reading the e-mails, the guilt and self-recrimination would shatter him.]]
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[[spoiler:The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main Marvel Universe more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined. That said, Dum-Dum Dugan arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]

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[[spoiler:The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main Marvel Universe more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined. That said, Dum-Dum Dugan arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]
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* PutOnABusToHell: [[spoiler: The original Nick Fury basically gets his entire history and personality destroyed. Nick is [[EvilAllAlong guilty of the horrible crime of...]] killing [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations!]] Off-camera! For decades! With... radioactive bullets that can kill demons and living planets and ''anything!'' (Why aren't we ''all'' using gamma-irradiated bullets?) [[AndThatsTerrible Nick, you're a terrible person for this!]] And then he [[MoralEventHorizon murders the Watcher for some reason]] and gets PutOnABus to the Moon, literally bound in chains]].\\\
[[spoiler:The [[RealLifeWritesThePlot real reason]] for this was almost certainly to get original Nick out of the way so Ultimate Nick Fury could be imported to the main Marvel Universe more easily, since Ult!Fury is the one everybody knows from the MarvelCinematicUniverse (and, being African American, he helps with Marvel's diversity, to boot). The real question is why original Fury couldn't make some kind of ''heroic'' exit instead of having his entire life and legacy ruined. That said, Dum-Dum Dugan arguably gets it [[UpToEleven even worse,]] since apparently he never even ''[[RetGone existed]]'' after World War II.]]
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* WhamLine: [[spoiler: Whatever Old Nick Fury told Thor was so powerful, it instantly made {{Mjolnir}} declare not just him, but his whole freaking species, unworthy. It was later revealed to be Fury declared that Gorr was right about gods.]]

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* WhamLine: [[spoiler: Whatever Old Nick Fury told Thor was so powerful, it instantly made {{Mjolnir}} declare not just him, but his whole freaking species, unworthy. It was later revealed to be Fury (and Uatu) declared that Gorr was right about gods.]]

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