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** Viewers' opinions on Season 3's looks at Coruscant under the New Republic can vary, depending on whether or not they want to consider the ''Star Wars'' Sequel Trilogy canon. Those who do enjoy the looks as well-performed worldbuilding and setup for the rise of the First Order. Others see them as overly-long and depressing, if not outright boring, distractions from Mandalorian affairs.

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** Viewers' opinions on Season 3's looks at Coruscant under the New Republic can vary, depending on whether come off as either compelling world-building or not they want to consider the ''Star Wars'' Sequel Trilogy canon. Those who do enjoy the looks as well-performed worldbuilding and setup for the rise of the First Order. Others see them as overly-long and depressing, if not outright boring, distractions from Mandalorian affairs. Sequel Trilogy fans appreciate the looks as effective buildup for the rise of the First Order, while other viewers find the buildup depressing, if not outright boring. Additionally, ''Series/{{Andor}}'' fans seem to either admire the social commentary as a sign of that series' acclaim positively influencing other ''Star Wars'' shows, or ridicule the commentary as inferior to that of ''Andor''.
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*** Uninclusiveness. Creator/{{RuPaul}} has made several controversial statements towards transgender people over the years, as well as the fact that he doesn't allow post-op trans women, drag kings, or bioqueens (cisgender women who perform female drag) to compete on the show. The usual retort is that limiting the competition to men and pre-op trans women helps maintain an even playing field, which has led to many a debate over the very definition of drag, as well as whether or not one can watch the show to enjoy the contestants without necessarily agreeing with [=RuPaul=] (the show has since softened its stance on who is allowed to compete).

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*** Uninclusiveness. Creator/{{RuPaul}} has made several controversial statements towards transgender people over the years, as well as the fact that he doesn't didn't initially allow post-op trans women, drag kings, or bioqueens (cisgender women who perform female drag) to compete on the show. The usual retort is was that limiting the competition to men and pre-op trans women helps helped maintain an even playing field, which has led to many a debate over the very definition of drag, as well as whether or not one can watch the show to enjoy the contestants without necessarily agreeing with [=RuPaul=] (the [=RuPaul=]. The show has since softened its stance on who is to allow cisgender women and trans women at any stage of transition to compete, though it has still not allowed to compete).drag kings.
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** Whether or not Din Djarin should've [[InevitablyBrokenRule abandoned his tribe's rule]] to never let a living thing see him without his helmet after Season 2. Some fans believe that in order to reinforce the lesson that Mandalorians can practice whatever form of their religion they want, the helmet rule should never completely die off, especially since Din looks uncomfortable letting other characters see his unmasked face in Chapters 8 and 15. Others believe that after Chapters 15 and 16 show Din expose himself out of love for Grogu, he reverses too much of his character development by atoning for his violation of the helmet rule. The latter camp also includes viewers who feel that they can't emotionally connect with Din without seeing his face at least OnceASeason.

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** Whether or not Din Djarin should've [[InevitablyBrokenRule abandoned his tribe's rule]] to never let a living thing see him without his helmet after Season 2. Some fans believe that in order to reinforce the lesson that Mandalorians can practice whatever form of their religion they want, the helmet rule should never completely die off, especially since Din looks uncomfortable letting other characters see whenever he unwillingly shows his unmasked face in Chapters 8 and 15. to someone else. Others believe that after Chapters 15 and 16 show the instances of Din expose exposing himself out of love for Grogu, he reverses too much of his character development by atoning for his violation of the helmet rule. The latter camp also includes viewers who feel that they can't emotionally connect with Din without seeing his face at least OnceASeason.
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** Same with Cersi Lannister; people loved her staying around for as long as she did, while others thought she stuck around far too long and shouldn't have been the final BigBad. That doesn't even get into how people feel about the way her story ended.

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** Same with Cersi Cersei Lannister; people loved her staying around for as long as she did, while others thought she stuck around far too long and shouldn't have been the final BigBad. That doesn't even get into how people feel about the way her story ended.
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** Same with Cersi Lannister; people loved her staying around for as long as she did, while others thought she stuck around far too long and shouldn'thave been the final BigBad. That doesn't even get into how people feel about the way her story ended.

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** Same with Cersi Lannister; people loved her staying around for as long as she did, while others thought she stuck around far too long and shouldn'thave shouldn't have been the final BigBad. That doesn't even get into how people feel about the way her story ended.
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** After a while, opinions begin to split over Ramsey Bolton. He's viewed as a good "love to hate" villain by some, while others started to think he was becoming an annoying InvincibleVillain.

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** After a while, opinions begin to split over Ramsey Bolton. He's viewed as a good "love to hate" LoveToHate villain by some, while others started to think he was becoming an annoying InvincibleVillain.
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** After a while, opinions begin to split over Ramsey Bolton. He's viewed as a good "love to hate" villain by some, while others started to think he was becoming an annoying invincible villain.

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** After a while, opinions begin to split over Ramsey Bolton. He's viewed as a good "love to hate" villain by some, while others started to think he was becoming an annoying invincible villain.InvincibleVillain.
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** Dany's downfall is extremely controversial among the fandom. One group of fans believe despite it's botched handling it was actually fitting. Dissenters are not completely sold on that, saying it was contrived. With some even saying Daenerys was a victim of bad MoralLuck. Some just don't like her arc regardless of the show's (or [[DeathOfTheAuthor George R.R. Martin's]]) intentions. Stannis downfall was almost just as controversial and divisive for the same reasons.

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** Dany's downfall is extremely controversial among the fandom. One group of fans believe despite it's its botched handling it was actually fitting. Dissenters are not completely sold on that, saying it was contrived. With some even saying Daenerys was a victim of bad MoralLuck. Some just don't like her arc regardless of the show's (or [[DeathOfTheAuthor George R.R. Martin's]]) intentions. Stannis Stannis' downfall was almost just as controversial and divisive for the same reasons.



** The Longnight is also controversial. The way it was shot makes it hard to see for some, while other claimed that it looked fine. Then there's the fact the White Walkers went down as easy as they did was seen as anticlimactic. Especially since they didn't even make it out of the north, with some thinking they would be the bigger threat. Others felt that the WW didn't have enough characterizations to be the final threat, unlike say Cersi for better or worse.

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** The Longnight Long Night is also controversial. The way it was shot makes it hard to see for some, while other claimed that it looked fine. Then there's the fact the White Walkers went down as easy as they did was seen as anticlimactic. Especially since they didn't even make it out of the north, with some thinking they would be the bigger threat. Others felt that the WW didn't have enough characterizations characterization to be the final threat, unlike say Cersi for better or worse.
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** Every era of the show receives a degree of this with some fans who love it while others hate it. Arguments rage over whether the Classic series or the Modern revival is better. Fans of the Classic series prefer the lack of melodrama and more traditional sci-fi feel while fans of the Modern series prefer the greater emphasis on character development and long term arcs. Not to mention disagreements regarding more specific eras. For instance, Classic ''Who'' fans are divided on whether the 60s or 70s are the best decade (with the 80s being a [[SeasonalRot much rarer]] but not nonexistent pick), while New ''Who'' fans can't agree on whether Russell T Davies or Steven Moffat is a better showrunner (with Chris Chibnall similarly being a much rarer but not non-existent pick). And then there's the debates over which [[TheNthDoctor incarnation]] of the Doctor is the best (and the worst).
** The decision to GenderSwap the character in 2017 led to the most extreme broken base scenario in the franchise's history, with fandom pretty much evenly split between those applauding the idea and those who announced they were divorcing themselves from the franchise.

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** Every era of the show receives a degree of this with some fans who love it while others hate it. Arguments rage over whether the Classic series or the Modern revival is better. Fans of the Classic series prefer the lack of melodrama and more traditional sci-fi feel while fans of the Modern series prefer the greater emphasis on character development and long term arcs. Not to mention There are also disagreements regarding more specific eras. For instance, Classic ''Who'' fans are divided on whether the 60s or 70s are the best decade (with the 80s being a [[SeasonalRot much rarer]] but not nonexistent pick), while New ''Who'' fans can't agree on whether Russell T Davies or Steven Moffat is a better showrunner (with Chris Chibnall similarly being a much rarer but not non-existent pick). And then there's the debates over which [[TheNthDoctor incarnation]] of the Doctor is the best (and the worst).
** The decision to GenderSwap the character in 2017 led to the most extreme broken base scenario in the franchise's history, with fandom pretty much evenly split between those applauding the idea and those who announced they were divorcing themselves from the franchise.



** Dany's downfall is extremely controversial among the fandom. One group of fans believe despite it's botched handling it was actually fitting. Dissenters are not completely sold on that, saying it was contrived. With some even saying Daenerys was a victim of bad MoralLuck. Some just don't like her arc regardless of the show's (or [[DeathOfTheAuthor George R.R. Martin's]]) intentions.
** Stannis downfall was almost just as controversial and divisive for basically the same reasons.
** The way the Nightking was dispatched is also incredibly polarizing.

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** Dany's downfall is extremely controversial among the fandom. One group of fans believe despite it's botched handling it was actually fitting. Dissenters are not completely sold on that, saying it was contrived. With some even saying Daenerys was a victim of bad MoralLuck. Some just don't like her arc regardless of the show's (or [[DeathOfTheAuthor George R.R. Martin's]]) intentions.
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intentions. Stannis downfall was almost just as controversial and divisive for basically the same reasons.
** The way the Nightking was dispatched is also incredibly polarizing.
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** The treatment of the Tyrells. Some people like it, thinking it fleshes out Margaery Tyrell more and shows more of the political intrigue. Others think the added Tyrell scenes, especially in S4 and S5, aren't that important to the overall plot and are basically pandering to the base. Then the scenes of Margaery sexually manipulating Tommen are very contentious due to Tommen's unclear age (especially as he continues acting like a child) making Margaery seem like a sexual abuser and sexual predator, especially as their relationship in the books is non-sexual due to Tommen's age. And while the Tyrells are important to the plot, some people think their emphasis is annoying as it takes too much time away from other significant characters, such as Stannis. Then there's their AdaptationalHeroism, taking away a lot of the moral ambiguity of the books.

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** The treatment of the Tyrells. Some people like it, thinking it fleshes out Margaery Tyrell more and shows more of the political intrigue. Others think the added Tyrell scenes, especially in S4 and S5, aren't that important to the overall plot and are basically pandering to the base. Then the scenes of Margaery sexually manipulating Tommen are very contentious due to Tommen's unclear age (especially as he continues acting like a child) making Margaery seem like a sexual abuser and sexual predator, especially as their relationship in the books is non-sexual due to Tommen's age. And while the Tyrells are important to the plot, some people think their emphasis is annoying as it takes too much time away from other significant characters, such as Stannis. Then there's their AdaptationalHeroism, taking away a lot of the moral ambiguity of the books.



** on a lighter note, There's also a divide over the sword and sorcery stuff vs the political intrigue stuff. Exemplified by the arguments mentioned above regarding how should the White Walkers fit into the grand scheme of things.

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** on On a lighter note, There's there's also a divide over the sword and sorcery stuff vs the political intrigue stuff. Exemplified by the arguments mentioned above regarding over how should the White Walkers should fit into the grand scheme of things.



** ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'': While this is starting to quiet down to some degree (seeing as every Star Trek TV show has had some backlash upon its release); Discovery had a massively polarizing effect on certain groups of fans, while others lauded it with praise. Due to a number of factors, such as it being well over a decade since there was a weekly ''Trek'' series (with many forgetting how much they hated later installments just doing the same thing over and over), Paramount and Viacom's split ("can it even be Trek without Paramount's involvement?"), the entirely new production team that brought the project to fruition ("who are these nobodies, they don't even understand Trek!"), the involvement of Alex Kurtzman (considered nearly an Antichrist by fans who did not enjoy the rebooted film series), the improved visuals (it's a prequel to TOS, so to many it should contain the same cheese-laden 60's look), the serialized plotting, the "canon violations" (primarily retcons and fanon misconceptions), new makeup and look for the Klingons, focus on a character who isn't the captain (and, unfortunately, poor reactions to her gender and race), the fact that it's on a premium streaming service rather than ordinary television, introduction of profanity (something Roddenberry himself would have included had network standards allowed it) and perhaps most notably its being released roughly at the same time as [[Series/TheOrville another show]] that deliberately invoked TNG-era nostalgia, a very vocal section of the fandom declared it "[[CanonDiscontinuity not real Trek]]" and even began online campaigns attempting to have it cancelled. In retrospect, even ''Enterprise'' has gained their favor compared to this.
** It's only gotten worse with each new offering since. ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' is too dark and doesn't show the hopeful future Roddenberry wanted, ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is lowbrow comedy that's antithetical to the spirit of the franchise, etc., etc. Needless to say, both of those series have their rabid fans as well.

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** ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'': While this is starting to quiet has quieted down to some degree (seeing as every Star Trek TV show has had some backlash upon its release); Discovery had a massively polarizing effect on certain groups of fans, while others lauded it with praise. Due to a number of factors, such as it being well over a decade since there was a weekly ''Trek'' series (with many forgetting how much they hated later installments just doing the same thing over and over), Paramount and Viacom's split ("can it even be Trek without Paramount's involvement?"), the entirely new production team that brought the project to fruition ("who are these nobodies, they don't even understand Trek!"), the involvement of Alex Kurtzman (considered nearly an Antichrist by fans who did not enjoy the rebooted film series), the improved visuals (it's a prequel to TOS, so to many it should contain the same cheese-laden 60's look), the serialized plotting, the "canon violations" (primarily retcons and fanon misconceptions), new makeup and look for the Klingons, focus on a character who isn't the captain (and, unfortunately, poor reactions to her gender and race), the fact that it's on a premium streaming service rather than ordinary television, introduction of profanity (something Roddenberry himself would have included had network standards allowed it) and perhaps most notably its being released roughly at the same time as [[Series/TheOrville another show]] that deliberately invoked TNG-era nostalgia, a very vocal section of the fandom declared it "[[CanonDiscontinuity not real Trek]]" and even began online campaigns attempting to have it cancelled. In retrospect, even ''Enterprise'' has gained their favor compared to this.
** It's only gotten worse with each new offering since. ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' is argued to be too dark and doesn't to not show the hopeful future Roddenberry wanted, ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is often dismissed by older fans as lowbrow comedy that's antithetical to the spirit of the franchise, etc., etc. Needless to say, both of those series have their rabid fans as well.
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** Whether or not Din Djarin should've [[InevitablyBrokenRule abandoned his tribe's rule]] to never let a living thing see him without his helmet after Season 2. Some fans believe that in order to reinforce the lesson that Mandalorians can practice whatever form of their religion they want, the helmet rule should never completely die off, especially since Din looks uncomfortable letting other characters see his unmasked face in Chapters 8 and 15. Others believe that after Chapters 15 and 16 show Din expose himself out of love for Grogu, he reverses too much of his character development by atoning for his violation of the helmet rule. The latter camp also includes viewers who feel that they can't emotionally connect with Din without seeing his face at least OnceASeason, and/or fear that Lucasfilm squanders too much of Creator/PedroPascal's talent by regularly hiding his facial expressions.

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** Whether or not Din Djarin should've [[InevitablyBrokenRule abandoned his tribe's rule]] to never let a living thing see him without his helmet after Season 2. Some fans believe that in order to reinforce the lesson that Mandalorians can practice whatever form of their religion they want, the helmet rule should never completely die off, especially since Din looks uncomfortable letting other characters see his unmasked face in Chapters 8 and 15. Others believe that after Chapters 15 and 16 show Din expose himself out of love for Grogu, he reverses too much of his character development by atoning for his violation of the helmet rule. The latter camp also includes viewers who feel that they can't emotionally connect with Din without seeing his face at least OnceASeason, and/or fear that Lucasfilm squanders too much of Creator/PedroPascal's talent by regularly hiding his facial expressions.OnceASeason.
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** Whether or not Din Djarin should've [[InevitablyBrokenRule abandoned his tribe's rule]] to never let a living thing see him without his helmet after Season 2. Some fans believe that in order to reinforce the lesson that Mandalorians can practice whatever form of their religion they want, the helmet rule should never completely die off, especially since Din looks uncomfortable letting other characters see his unmasked face in Chapters 8 and 15. Others believe that after Chapters 15 and 16 show Din expose himself out of love for Grogu, he reverses too much of his character development by atoning for his violation of the helmet rule. The latter camp also includes viewers who fear that Lucasfilm squanders too much of Creator/PedroPascal's talent by regularly hiding his facial expressions.

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** Whether or not Din Djarin should've [[InevitablyBrokenRule abandoned his tribe's rule]] to never let a living thing see him without his helmet after Season 2. Some fans believe that in order to reinforce the lesson that Mandalorians can practice whatever form of their religion they want, the helmet rule should never completely die off, especially since Din looks uncomfortable letting other characters see his unmasked face in Chapters 8 and 15. Others believe that after Chapters 15 and 16 show Din expose himself out of love for Grogu, he reverses too much of his character development by atoning for his violation of the helmet rule. The latter camp also includes viewers who feel that they can't emotionally connect with Din without seeing his face at least OnceASeason, and/or fear that Lucasfilm squanders too much of Creator/PedroPascal's talent by regularly hiding his facial expressions.
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** Din Djarin getting Grogu back in Season 3 -- some people like this because it means [[InterspeciesAdoption Din Djarin gets to be Grogu's father]], we get to see more plots about him (such as whether he should be a Jedi or a Mandalorian) and that [[PutOnABus if Grogu had left the show]], that would have been sad. Others, however, think it's either a cash grab, annoying that people need to watch ''Series/TheBookOfBobaFett'' to find out how he got Grogu back, or wastes potential.

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** Din Djarin getting Grogu back in Season between Seasons 2 and 3 -- some people like this because it means [[InterspeciesAdoption Din Djarin gets to be Grogu's father]], we get to see more plots about him (such as whether he should be a Jedi or a Mandalorian) and that [[PutOnABus if Grogu had left the show]], that would have been sad. Others, however, think it's either a cash grab, annoying that people need to watch ''Series/TheBookOfBobaFett'' to find out how he got Grogu back, or wastes potential.

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