Just thought of a couple of things:
Firstly, I'm not sure if you mentioned it at the time, but you remember the point when Elliot was put in charge of the party? He never ended up doing anything somebody in charge should/would do except stay relatively calm. This includes how he made minimal effort in keeping track of when people left (exemplified by the fact that he was the first to leave).
Thank you Sabbo for your insight!
- I love how they're just...standing there
- In a place the daughter can see them.
- I also love that the man has no nose.
- And the silhouettes are still creepy when on a profile.
- It looks like a snout.
- So, what does Shive want us to take from this?
- That we should not criticize her for her sexism, maybe.
- Or that she has been scarred ever since she saw boobs.
- Maybe that's it.
- She saw boobs, and she is now doomed to wander the earth forever, alone.
- Also, you'd really think she'd have more to her personality than this, but no.
- She is solely defined by one thing that happened to her.
- That's character depth.
- Look at that, a joke about Star Trek. Truly it is the height of wit, that has never been breached by mortals.
- Buffy's "Vulcan-ologist" joke was waayyy better than this, that's all I'm saying.
- Oh, yeah, I'm bored.
- But, I suppose, this is not a HORRIBLE strip.
- Last panel.
- Sitting pose.
- I am disappoint.
- So, finally, after six years, we get to see Nanase's parents.
- Lets talk about first generation asian parents.
- Hoo boy. Where to start?
- Well, there is this.
- There is also my own personal experiences.
- My parents aren't asian, but I grew up in a community with lots of Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Indian residents.
- The thing is...there is a stereotype, about asian parents. They push you to do well, they're a bit crazy, they don't understand western culture, and they speak oddly.
- And more or less, this is completely true.
- Here's an example. Nick.
- We drive him to Karate. He's a black belt. He's thirteen. Started when he was four or three. He took the SATs last summer. His mom is making him read The Lord of the Rings for the second time because she felt he didn't read it well enough the first time. He currently takes classes to teach him about the SAT, as well as other things. I believe his grade was in the 1400s, which is about 100 below the average of seventeen year olds and yet he was still talking about how horribly he did.
- Aaron. He could write a book with all the stories of his parents. I should know. Every day on the bus, he would tell me a new story about what annoying things his parents did. One was about how his mom got his computer full of viruses because she clicked a wrong link while watching her Chinese soaps. Another was about the constant heckling for studying, even after he just finished studying.
- That might seem minor, but you know what? I had to suffer through 4 years with that kid, and you're gonna suffer too!
- OK, anyways, another good example is when someone was told by their parents they were not allowed to hang out with someone because the parents were divorced. Or the fact that nearby indian parents actually questioned my sister on her grades before she was allowed to hang out with their daughter.
- And yes, they all have very odd accents, more or less. I can barely understand Nick's mom on the phone. It's a bit worrying, actually.
- The fact is, this stereotype is well and alive in the USA.
- That does not mean it should be used.
- The problem with it is that it's still just that — a stereotype.
- I mean, you know african americans with afros, with big lips, and maybe a few that speak jive. That does not mean it's ok to make a stereotype of all three walking down the street.
- And that is what I worry about when I read about Nanase's mother.
- Of course, I'm getting ahead of myself. You haven't even met her.
- So. Now. I hope we are all educated enough by my poorly executed anecdotes to see that, yes, this is how the asian stereotype works.
- Can anyone tell me what's wrong with it?
- Other than the lack of a comma between "Oui" and "hai" I mean.
- Well, she's hateful for one.
- Really hateful.
- I mean, maybe it's just me, but strictness =/= hatefulness.
- Also, that third panel is just cringe-worthy.
- It's like...hey guys, lets state my personal philosophy about life!
- Also, one stereotype that I'm almost disappointed that Shive forgot about was the music stereotype. Very few asians I know actually are interested in their kids learning different languages, other than their original language and english, and instead want them to play an instrument.
- Flute. Piano. Saxophone. Anything handy.
- Of course, that's not saying Shive was right or wrong for doing it, it's just something I noticed in my own experiences, and it makes me wonder whether he is using his own experiences, or chose different languages because those make her seem stricter.
- You know, I hate to say this but....Nanase's mom isn't exactly wrong here.
- Lets break it down.
- Studying is a good thing.
- If you don't study on your own, then yes, you do need to work on your work ethics.
- And to a certain degree, yes, you can't be half-assed about it. You need to put effort into it, or you're going to end up skating by with just average.
- And true, there is nothing wrong with being average, but to succeed above all others is not a horrible goal to have. Parents only want their kids to succeed, and succeeding in education can be quite a boost. Especially when you understand that without good grades, you are nothing in places like China and Japan.
- Now, the 4.0 GPA scale.
- First of all, frikking little Mary Sue.
- OK, with that out of the way, lets consider the importance of a 4.0.
- That means you get good grades in everything, but that isn't exactly everything.
- To be top in your class, there isn't only just getting hundreds in every test, there are AP classes, clubs, sports, things that boost your grade and help you out in college.
- If Nanase wants to keep that 4.0, she needs to maintain it, and there is nothing wrong with her mom worrying about that.
- Sure, Nanase's mom is going about it the wrong way, but her actions aren't inherently spiteful, no matter how much Shive wishes to make it seem like she's a bad mother for this.
- Now, lets deal with the actual "Lol Nanase's mom is ebil" line.
- The "homemaker" line.
- First, since I like being a nitpicky bitch, lets criticize Nanase.
- She just raised her voice to her mother, and accused her, when she was only trying to help. Sure, she's a teenager, and I can understand her frustration, but this doesn't scream "repressed teenager" to me, this screams "girl with no respect for the people who raised her."
- I mean, she obviously DOES care about her grades, otherwise she wouldn't be putting this much pressure on her.
- Now, lets work on that homemaker line.
- I am going to go off into my own little world, and imagine that Nanase is just exaggerating, since we never see any indication of this from the mother.
- Also, we see Values Dissonance.
- Yes, your mother is outdated, old fashioned, and slightly warped.
- That does not make her a bad person.
- Once school ends, you're going to be free of her anyway, why is this being depicted as some poor entrapment?
- I might be more sympathetic if we had seen a slow build up to this, instead of a two page set up.
- Oh, and "no dessert" as punishment?
- Pffft. What a load.
- Also, why cookies?
- Why not traditional chinese food?
- Yes, that is another prevalent stereotype in people from other countries. They tend to cook the food from the country they were born in.
- Thank you for telling us this, Nanase. It's not like you couldn't have just shown us this.
- And so, to increase the sappiness, we see that Nanase's sister loves her, by showering her with sugary foods.
- You know, I understand that being stuck with parents like that can suck, but this is where you turn to friends for support.
- Since you seem to have no desire to receive sympathy, I will give you no sympathy.
- for instance, lets look at this relationship.
- (also, lolclichélol)
- Well, more proof Ellen considers herself to be Elliot. Whee.
- See, here we get the fact that there will be angst.
- About the lesbianism.
- Nanase doesn't angst about anything else.
- It just comes off as...isolated.
- A vacuum.
- THEY'RE GETTING TEARY-EYED!
- AND ELLEN IS ALMOST ABOUT TO CRY!
- THE DRAMA!
Good news about the next entry, folks.
It's all plot!
No, not the lesbian plot, the plot-plot!
Well, ok, no. It's more of exposition.