* BrokenBase: ''World of Lies''. A worthy follow up to ''Dissimulate'' that injected a breath of fresh air for the band's creative talent, or a shoddy album tried to appeal to mainstream and failed?
* OlderThanTheyThink: Though they became well known by the mid-2000s, they actually formed back in 1995 and their first album (in 2000) was actually recorded the year prior to its release and written as far back as 97-98, but its TroubledProduction kept it from seeing the light of day sooner.