* AntiClimaxBoss: [[Anime/TheBigO Big Fau]] is probably one of the most pathetic bosses in franchise history, rivaling the [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion EVA Unit-01]] in ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]'', due to fairly weak attacks and such a low accuracy rate you don't even need to use Spirit Commands. The only hard part is killing the [[OvermanKingGainer Overdevils]] which can be done very easily if you're careful. He's followed by another easy battle that gives you unlimited turns to get the SR Point.
** Despite being a DuelBoss against whom you can only use [[MobileSuitGundam00 Setsuna F. Seiei and the Exia]], [[spoiler:[[MobileSuitGundam00 Alejandro Corner in the Alvaaron]]]] can be made into this in ''Hakai-hen''. It only has around 20,000 HP, and the Exia with decently upgraded weapons, Setsuna's "Ace Bonus"[[note]]Deal 50% more damage to any units equipped with Solar Furnaces and Gundams[[/note]], and casting his "Soul" Spirit Command[[note]]Deal 2.5 times the damage for the next attack[[/note]], he can easily do over 30,000 damage with a single attack.
*** And if you have his weapons maxed as well as 400 Melee stat to add on to the above, he does around ''127,000 damage'' with one hit.
** In the same spirit as the above, ''Saisei-hen'' gives us [[spoiler:[[ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS Wiseman]]]] as a boss for the second half of the final ''ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS'' scenario between him and [[ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS Chirico Cuvie]]. The anti-climactic part is that he controls a set of [[ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS Blood Suckers]] with about 12,000 HP each, but no special features. These Blood Suckers can be finished in one move. [[spoiler:Of course, this is what Wiseman wanted]].
** The FinalBoss in ''Jigoku-hen'' has half the {{Hit Point}}s of the [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Grand Zamboa]]. Justified since the scenario takes place in an epilogue, while the ''actual'' FinalBoss for the story's climax is [[spoiler:the Grand Zeboma]].
* BestLevelEver: From ''Z'', scenario 36 - "[[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Operation Angel Down]]". Instead of pitting [[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Shinn Asuka against Kira Yamato]], it's hero vs. hero for the entire cast. MazingerZ vs. GetterRobo? {{Aquarion}} vs. [[{{Gravion}} God Gravion]]? [[{{Xabungle}} Xabungle and Walker Gallia]] fighting [[MobileSuitGundam Universal Century Gundams]]? Yes, yes and yes.
** In ''Saisei-hen'', just about everyone loves [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDFetkztTIA scenario 29]]. The battle occurs in the middle of a city on fire and numerous events occur in rapid succession: [[MobileSuitGundam00 Ali Al-Saachez and Graham Aker]] can be fought, [[MobileSuitGundamWing Lucrezia Noin]] joins ZEXIS, [[MobileSuitGundamWing Trowa Barton]] regains his memory and returns, there's a tiny window to play around with the [[MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Epyon]] and [[MobileSuitGundamWing Heero Yuy]] reappears and trades [[MobileSuitGundamWing Zechs Marquise]] for the [[MobileSuitGundamWing Wing Gundam Zero]], the [[MobileSuitGundam00 00 Gundam]] gets the [[MechaExpansionPack 0 Raiser]], [[MobileSuitGundam00 Allelujah Haptism and Marie Parfacy]] reunite with new attacks to their units AND Allelujah and [[SplitPersonality Hallelujah]] fuse personalities to become the SuperSoldier.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbvmfDsxP9Q Scenario 24 space route]] in ''Saisei-hen'' has garnered praise from fans for having wave after wave of {{mook}}s attacking. [[MobileSuitGundamWing Chang Wufei and Duo Maxwell]] also return with the MidSeasonUpgrade to their Gundams, and [[MobileSuitGundam00 Tieria Erde]] gets a new attack for the [[MobileSuitGundam00 Seravee Gundam]].
** And of course, the FinalBattle of Jigoku-hen. In comes the TengenToppaGurrenLagann, a fully playable unit. Awesome enough already, but then [[spoiler: EVERYONE IN Z-BLUE becomes infinity size. You and your infinitely large army of mecha versus the Anti-Spiral. It's just SO satisfying.]]
* BrokenBase: ''Hakai-hen'' was suffering from this. While some found the cast list to be the best thing ever, others hate the game for removing the "Tri-Battle System" from ''Z'', having only one protagonist (thereby only one route that you can pick), a lack of secrets and the inability to save certain characters who they want to survive throughout the course of the series.
** There is the fact that many of these complaints were rooted in hardware issues, as a UMD can only hold so much data. The fact the sequel was split into two parts resulted in certain things being wound up on the cutting room floor.
** People were rejoicing that ''[[{{Gigantor}} Tetsujin #28]]'', essentially the [[UrExample great grandfather of]] HumongousMecha, is at long last showing up in [=SRW=]...only it's the 1980s remake and not the original, which has some people happy ''Tetsujin #28'' is showing up at all, some wishing it was the original, and some happy it's that version.
** The arrangements for some of the songs in ''Hakai-hen'' had fans either cheering (such as "[[ShinMazinger Kanjite Knight]]" and "[[GetterRobo HEATS]]"), or outright wanting to murder the composer in cold blood, with "[[DancougaNova Tori no Uta]]" being the largest offender to some. It wouldn't be that big of an issue, had not the same track been used in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsL'', giving fans something to compare.
*** Also, fans were upset that certain songs were NOT in the game, such as "Yuusou" (the theme of the Stoner Sunshine event from ''[[GetterRobo Getter Robo Armageddon]]'') as well as "New Frontier" and "Angel Voice" from ''[[{{Macross 7}} Macross Dynamite 7]]''.
*** Not just music: let fans watch and compare the animations of the ''DancougaNova'' in ''L'' and ''Hakai-hen''[=/=]''Saisei-hen''. People ''will'' argue which one is better (recall ''L'' is on the NintendoDS while ''Hakai-hen''[=/=]''Saisei-hen'' is on the PlayStationPortable). Same thing can be applied to the ''MacrossFrontier'' animations.
*** The use of synth violins (Triangular and Hakanaku mo Towa no Kanashi were the biggest examples). In fairness, this is an almost universally hated thing in SRW music.
** The plot of [[spoiler:''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'']] doesn't end in ''Saisei-hen'', and [[spoiler:the [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Chouginga Gurren Lagann]]]] isn't playable, despite the [[spoiler:[[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Cathedral Lazengann]]]] appearing. While it's an obvious setup for a SequelHook, this annoyed certain players.
*** Technically it ''has'' ended[[note]]Banpresto made a completely original "Anti-Gurren Lagann" piloted by the Anti-Spiral[[/note]], so they can still continue it in the next game.[[note]]That said, the Anti-Spiral simply up and leaves, letting you live a little while longer...[[/note]]
** The fact that [[spoiler:[[CodeGeass Euphemia li Britannia]] turns out NotQuiteDead]] in the ZEXIS Route, but [[spoiler:[[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina]] and [[MobileSuitGundam00 Lockon "Neil Dylandy" Stratos]] stay dead]] ''does'' annoy some players. To be fair, [[spoiler:Euphemia coming back alive]] has less negative impact to the overall plot (for ''Saisei-hen'' and ''CodeGeass'') than having [[spoiler:Kamina and Neil]] come back would.
** ''Jigoku-hen'' removes certain series like ''EurekaSeven'', ''OvermanKingGainer'', ''AfterWarGundamX'' and ''TurnAGundam'' in favor of new series; like ''Hakai-hen'', it is but part ONE of the ''Third Super Robot Wars Z'', making these complaints feel redundant.
*** Upon the reveal of screenshots for ''Jigoku-hen'', certain players are upset Banpresto isn't taking full advantage of the PlayStation3 and PlaystationVita by going the 3D route for maps, instead opting back for the heads-down display as the ''Second Z'' did. Grumblings of LazyArtist are abound, since both systems have the hardware and power to do it, especially when the ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration Second Super Robot Wars Original Generation]]'' could.
*** The second promotional trailer reveals the plot of ''MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack'' is happening in ''Jigoku-hen'' has irked some players, particularly since [[MobileSuitZetaGundam Quattro Bagina]] said he wouldn't let it happen. Not only does this make [[MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char Aznable]] a {{Hypocrite}} and liar, {{Colony Drop}}ping Axis has been done too many times in previous [=SRWs=], especially when [[MobileSuitGundamUnicorn another character who looks like Char (Full Frontal)]] could be the one to do it in place of the man himself, a theory most players feel positive about when ''Jigoku-hen'' was announced. [[spoiler:Turns into {{Superdickery}} when Char reveals he and the Axis are Singularities, whereas Full Frontal is the one performing the drop. Char even goes so far as to pull a XanatosGambit in case the ColonyDrop occurs]].
** With ''Jigoku-hen'' released, players aren't pleased to discover some attack animations have taken [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp--OEQqRbk a step backwards]] against [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLVdkgwbHdc previous]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopzdml43n8 titles]], especially when new animations are [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsDKOj6n-Os given better treatment]]. While this base is always broke regarding Banpresto's bias towards different titles (particularly debuts), ''Jigoku-hen'' seems to be the worst.
*** The plot for ''Anime/Gundam00AWakeningOfTheTrailblazer'' is not concluded in ''Jigoku-hen'', pulling another ''Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann'' delay via ''Hakai-hen''.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: When a rumor that "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-O1X9GDJD4 Back Alley Space Boy]]" wouldn't be the theme to ''DaiGuard'' was disproved, the Internet went nuts. And yes, it's probably one of the best instrumentals they have in ''Hakai-hen''. The same can be said of the arrangement for "HEATS" and "Kanjite Knight".
** While the {{Leitmotif}} for [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Crowe Broust]] in ''Hakai-hen'', "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQzaLOZwnMI Close Game Life]]", is a little underwhelming, his MidSeasonUpgrade theme "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5aaddvtbgs&feature=related The Unbreakable]]" in ''Saisei-hen'' more than makes up for it.
** On the villains' side, we have [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Asakim Dowin]] and his ''incredibly'' catchy "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_1WNsvGZM Black Stranger]]". Likewise, there's Aim's strangely heroic sounding "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAl-MxsHFpk Unture Crystal]]", as well as the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y2dL3LAstk various]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM0y7KpuauQ Ark]]-[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNusv4Wu-cY&feature=related Saber]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcwW_hYlULY&feature=related themes]], [[AndZoidberg plus]] "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpNYYJfHhV0&feature=relmfu The Song of the Homicidal Doll]]". Finally, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Uther Insaraum]] and "The King's Love is for His People" [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCUeVmboXtk&feature=relmfu may be one of the best]] boss {{Leitmotif}}s in [=SRW=] to date.
** For participants of ''Saisei-hen'', "[[ShinMazinger The]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdN1wx6UzxE Guardian]]", "[[MobileSuitGundam00 TRANS-AM]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMEGOLNQp50 RAISER]]", "[[CodeGeass O]][[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kqxo0kqlOg 2]]" and others soon became fan favourites.
*** Special mention goes to Scenario 29 of ''Saisei-hen'', where a background music named "The Advance of Warhorses" pop up at the beginning, which makes Chirico go nuts. This song is remade from the original Red Shoulder March of ''ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS'', since Banpresto couldn't purchase the song's licensing, but this version is very well-conceived. [[LongSongShortScene Too bad you only get to hear it in a few scenarios or so]], ''nor'' can you set it as a unit's music.
* CrossoverShip: Shinn Asuka and [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Setsuko Ohara]], and through that, Shinn has actually mellowed enough to [[FixFic fix some of his more objectionable personality problems]]. It helps they still care for each other [[spoiler:when they meet again in ''Saisei-hen'']].
** [[CodeGeass Kallen Kouzuki]] and Chirico Cuvie, of all people. They had much chemistry since ''Hakai-hen'', spent much time fighting along together, and even some ShipTease moments (some in front of [[ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS Fyana]], even).
* DemonicSpiders: Or "[[IncrediblyLamePun DAMONic]] [[FanNickname Spiders]]", as the case may be. Dimensional Beasts have high HP, barriers, can inflict StandardStatusEffects, good accuracy/evasion rates (and will only go higher due to their "[[CriticalStatusBuff Prevail]]" skill[[note]]The lower the HP, the greater the increase to accuracy/evasion/critical/armor stats[[/note]]) and HP/EN regeneration. As someone on SomethingAwful put it, "It's like someone decided [[MacrossPlus the Ghost X9]] should be [[UpToEleven more annoying]]".
** DifficultySpike: When you face those with MAP weapons in ''Hakai-hen''. In the last scenario, you face ''a few'' who have stats akin to a MiniBoss, and their MAP weapons ''[[FriendlyFireproof do not hit their allies]]''.
** Thankfully in ''Saisei-hen'', Bull- and Rhino-type Dimensional Beasts have less HP, don't have HP/EN regeneration and no barriers. [[ThisIsGonnaSuck That is, until you start facing Artificial-class mid-game]], as the weaker ones are even ''stronger'' than the old Rhino-types.
** ''Saisei-hen'' Scenario 15 introduces Axio Burglars (piloted by Fire Bugs). Each are equipped with a "Jamming Device" which makes allied units two grids around them given accuracy/evasion rate increases by 10%, ''and'' these bonuses stack if they're adjacent to one another. These make evasive {{real robot}}s like [[OvermanKingGainer King Gainer]] or a [[ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS Scopedog]] very prone to their strong attacks (their strongest even reduces Will), while it's almost impossible to hit them without using Spirit Commands. [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Marilyn Catto]] in her Axio Burglar/Pearl Fang only makes it worse, since she's always there to lead her gang and boosts their/her accuracy/evasion rates with her "Command" pilot skill[[note]]Unit projects a command field; allies within the field receive accuracy/evasion bonus rates depending on the distance from the unit.[[/note]] ''and'' her unit's own Jamming Device.
** One ''Saisei-hen'' scenario pits you against a large number of Blood Suckers. Unlike the ones Chirico faces later, these Blood Suckers are surprisingly accurate and agile, especially if you make the mistake of not taking them down in one shot, allowing their Prevail to kick in. The fact the scenario takes place indoors, rendering any unit bigger than a medium size non-usable, doesn't help.
* EarWorm: GAN GAN LEON, GUNLEON! GAN GAN LEON, GUNLEON!...and all the respective {{Ear Worm}}s of the various franchises, as usual.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Shiony Regis]] from ''Hakai-hen'' is a mostly non-combatant villainess who's a SmugSnake at times, but she utterly ''dominates'' the ''Second Super Robot Wars Z'' fanarts.
** The BigBad from ''Z'' is also well liked by fans for being a villainous AscendedFanboy, having an entertaining, insane personality, with liberal use of GratuitousEnglish.
* GoddamnedBats: In ''Saisei-hen'', any enemy faction aligned with the Earth Federation will get [[MobileSuitGundamWing Mobile Dolls]] with "Support Defend"[[note]]Unit can provide defensive support to an adjacent ally[[/note]] and most have barriers like "Planet Defensors", which nullifies any damage below 2000. Your attacks will constantly be blocked if you haven't been upgrading your units' weapons, not to mention the Dolls hit hard with the "Ignore Size Modifier" pilot skill[[note]]Negate damage penalties when attacking larger units[[/note]].
** During the last scenario resolving the ''ShinMazinger'' and ''MobileSuitGundam00'' plots, you need to face Missile Mechanic Beasts and Gaga, respectively, by the numbers. While they aren't particularly hard to destroy, their {{Suicide Attack}}s are quite accurate. In fact, you won't earn any experience or credits if they're destroyed this way.
* GoodBadBugs: ''Saisei-hen'' has two that can [[GameBreaker trivialize the game for you]]. The first one is available if you have clear data from ''Hakai-hen'' and choose to start a new game via data linking. Progressing to the screen where it asks if you're sure you want to continue, then back-tracking to the title screen causes 500,000 credits to be added to your link data credit total. Repeat until you have all the funds you'll ever need.
** The second one is a minor, but significant one. In both games, it's possible to leave space on the sub-order menu before enacting orders, thus a player is allowed to go back and fill those spaces and activate orders for them if they wish to. In ''Hakai-hen'', filled rows are locked out, but in ''Saisei-hen'' it's possible to visit an unfilled row, switch to a filled row (by pressing the L or R buttons while holding down the triangle button), then swap out one pilot for another who hasn't been given orders yet. This means the player is no longer forced to choose who gets sub-orders when the [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters cast becomes too large]].
* HilariousInHindsight: An image from ''Z'' made the rounds during the game's initial release, showing a man in a black and gold outfit with a full face mask, talking to [[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Gilbert Durandal]] and saying "They call that man 'Orange'." [[CodeGeass Guess what series]] debuts in ''Hakai-hen''?
** ''Hakai-hen'' included a [[MacrossSeven Fire Bomber]] CD as an equippable part, as a ContinuityNod to the fact several ''Macross Frontier'' characters (particularly [[MacrossFrontier Ozma Lee]]) are fans. We get to see them {{Squee}} in person, since ''{{Macross 7}}'' is in ''Saisei-hen''.
** Famitsu once posted a hoax article for a fake entry called "Super Robot Wars U" as an AprilFools joke. Among the series listed was ''Daiguard''. Cue the cast listing for ''Hakai-hen''.
** The term "Char's Counterattack" was always a bit of a misnomer in that movie, since in it Char and Neo Zeon are the aggressors. However, Z3's spin on it makes it no longer a misnomer.
* HeartwarmingMoments: Back in Hakai-hen one stage had one of the few moments where the title of the stage is displayed after the actual stage is completed rather than before the stage starts. This stage in particular was unfortunately the stage Kamina is killed, the stage title being "Goodbye....My Friends". Skip forward to Z3 there is another stage that has the title shown after the stage is completed. Which one? The penultimate stage where the heroes finally defeat Anti-Spiral. The title of the stage is another quote from Gurren Lagann. "The Lights in the sky are stars"
* HolyShitQuotient: A playable Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann in ''Jigoku-hen'' already set the tone following its reveal in the promotional trailers, but to transform into the [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann]]? '''WOW'''.
** The entire Axis ColonyDrop event in ''Jigoku-hen'': sure, multiple [=SRWs=] have used it before, but to see [[spoiler:Char reveal he's not the one dropping the asteroid, but because he and Frontal are Singularities and the Axis is a Great Singularity he will use it to perform space-time recovery (Frontal mentions the other earlier Char Aznables who made different choices in Super Robot Wars games), ''lead'' all of Z-BLUE in stopping its descent, '''AND''' pull a XanatosGambit in case it happens]]? All this is done as "[[MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Beyond the]] [[AwesomeMusic Time]]" plays in the background.
* MemeticMutation: Shiony has probably become the most memetic character in the entire franchise, only rivaling [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex]] for the top slot. Look at how much fanart exists for her alone compared to how little there is for the other ''Hakai-hen'' originals. However, unlike Mist, Shiony's memetic status is due to the fanbase realizing how she acts tough while being meek and frail in reality, overreacting to just about anything; in turn, the fandom latched onto her personality quirks and just ran with it, as opposed to being the result of an accidental rumor in Mist's case. WordOfGod even acknowledged her memetic status by using her portrait in ''Saisei-hen'' for a civilian you met in-game. Some fans actually find her moe due to how ineffectual a villain she is (she's upstaged by her villainous partners and not that hard of a boss); that and how cute she looks in some of said art.
** It can be debated as she mainly appears in the ruins of the country she used to lead. Same goes for the fanart amount, mainly [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Marguerite]] [[GagBoobs Pistail]].
** Crowe's million-dollar debt is slowly reaching this level.
** "Wrong Tetsujin!" stemming from the fan reaction to the 80s series being used over the original or 2004 one.
* MoralEventHorizon: Shikuu crosses it when he kills [[spoiler: the pregnant Annalotta, causing the Geminides race to go extinct, as the mother is the one who spreads her genes.]]
* MostAnnoyingSound: "[[EurekaSeven MOKYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN]]!" Whoever decided the [[EurekaSeven Nirvash]] should do that ''every time it attacks'' should be shot.
** "Main Theme" for ''Dancouga Nova'' (no, not "Tori no Uta") is so over-the-top serious that it quickly gets annoying. Then there's that delayed yell in the Dancouga Nova's final attack.
*** It's actually Aoi, [[spoiler: or more specifically, a young Aoi: in the show's final battle with the original {{Dancouga}}, when they used the Dankuudangaiken, it showed near the end a young Aoi, since just before using the attack. The other pilots helped her out of a HeroicBSOD where she was imagining herself when she was a little girl]].
* MostWonderfulSound: The sound the [[Anime/AfterWarGundamX Twin Satellite Cannon]] makes when it locks on, right before it fires is absolutely ''glorious''.
** [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Simon]] and his shout of "[[ThisIsADrill Giga Drill Break]]", [[spoiler:particularly in the ''Jigoku-hen'' finale of the ''Gurren Lagann'' plot, while using the titular galaxy-sized HumongousMecha]].
* NightmareFuel
** [[spoiler: [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ The Edel Bernal's]]]] ultimate attack: first he creates a rip in the fabric of spacetime, briefly showing off a rather ominous looking eye before a massive, rainbow-colored horde of evil...somethings...burst out in a massive stream, with the boss' mech leading them like some demented band leader, and with the horde making a cacophony of creepy impish giggling. They swoop up, grab the hapless victim(s) and carry them into a dimension of pure rainbow insanity. They then get swarmed by a mass of blobs which is then assails by giant sperm, then eaten by a much larger one-eyed blob, which then collides with MORE one-eyed blobs, zooming out all the while, until suddenly the mass is blasted by at least a dozen lasers, until finally the final boss' mech looms large, [[spoiler: The Edel]] makes a rather wiggly cut-in, completely with a disturbing expression of pure elation and with a "BYE-BYE", before finally ending the madness by ramming his gigantic spear into the whole mess. Definitely a contender for creepiest attack in the series, tied with the BigBad in ''Alpha 3''.
** Dimensional Beasts increasingly become this.
* NightmareRetardant: Shikuu's Leitmotif would actually be scary if the distorted voice playing in the background didn't sound like someone burping.
* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler:[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFiiuEPnG1Y Esther Elhaas becomes a Dimensional Beast]] in ''Saisei-hen''. She gets better, though]].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, alongside AuthorsSavingThrow and TookALevelInBadAss: When ''Anime/TheBigO'' debuted in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsDestiny'', it was [[TierInducedScrappy near useless]] by that game's [[GameBreakingBug broken standards]] and many, many players were pleasantly surprised after seeing it in action in ''Z'', where it's one of the best units and becomes even better if you manage to get all of its weapons, making it a nigh-GameBreaker with its high defense, range, and Roger Smith's high stats (more accurately, his skill set, allowing him to make use of the "Attack Again" pilot skill) and accuracy. It seemed like the developers were issuing a warm, heartfelt apology for its sheer shafting in ''Destiny''.
** Same with ''GodMars'', which was a scrappy unit in the same game due to the same bug and if it was destroyed, it was an instant game over. Although the same "game over" situation is in ''Hakai-hen'', Godmars is rendered as an ass-kicking tool of destruction that's nearly unstoppable. One fan on the Gamefaqs board described it as "two trucks duct-taped together with an atomic bomb"...[[EarthShatteringKaboom which is an oddly accurate description of Godmars itself]]. It also helps that after the Godmars finale, the bomb is disposed of safely and there's now no game-ruining risk involved with using it.
** [[GetterRobo Getter-3]] in ''Hakai-hen'' is no longer a situational unit (at best): it's actually pretty good unit.
** If there's one unit and pilot people ragged on out of the ''Gundam 00'' pilots, it was the Kyrios and Allelujah for just not being quite up to snuff with the other Celestial Being Gundams. Cue a 180 with the Arios in ''Saisei-hen'', winning fans over with better specs, having what many consider the best opening [[SuperMode TRANS-AM]] animation, an eventual ability to unleash Hallejuah and watching the Arios jump between jet and robot mode in glorious slow motion animation.
** [[{{Gundam 00}} Nena Trinity]], in a sense. She's still an evil psychotic bitch, but the thing that made her so hated was killing Louise's family at a wedding on a total whim. In "Hakai-hen", this is altered so that all ''three'' Trinity siblings bomb a ''political party'' that Louise's parents happen to be at, apparently under orders to. Thus, while Nena still holds culpability, she doesn't hold '''sole''' culpability, and it being a politically-based event she's ordered to strike at rather than an innocent wedding she strikes at for fun makes her come off as less reprehensible.
** Quess is noticeably less of a crazy bitch and Gyunei isn't too bad either (tsundere for Char, so much so that [[spoiler:he shows up to help push Axis back yelling what basically amounts to "I'm not doing this for you, don't misunderstand me!"]]).
* ScrappyWeapon: Gurren Lagann's Troidel Burst MAP attack - consumes a lot of EN, can only hit five enemies at most and cannot be used post-movement it also can't be used in space terrain maps and can't hit flying enemies normally unless you waste parts slots to give Gurren Lagann the ability to do so which is sub-optimal at best.
* TearJerker: Many from the various franchises, but especially [[spoiler:[[{{Zambot 3}} Aki's]] death, which can be avoided through a GuideDangIt by getting invisible "points" which will putting her in stasis until a method to stop the bomb in her is discovered]]. Also doubles as a PlayerPunch, as many players mercilessly slaughter the Gaizock forces responsible for it in revenge. Kappei's portrait even changes from his usual smile to an angry expression for the rest of the stage along with his character description changing.
** Also [[spoiler:[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjfVMZggw44 Kamina]], [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UV1sk8ZNo Euphemia]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUe83vpiKC0 Neil]]]] in ''Hakai-hen''. The worst part is [[spoiler:while you can save Aki from her canon death (which you did in ''Z'' canon), but Kamina and Neil are KilledOffForReal]]...[[EpilepticTrees or maybe until the sequel to ''Saisei-hen'']].
*** Especially with [[spoiler: Kamina]], where [[AxCrazy Batshit]] [[GetterRobo Ryouma Nagare]], of all people, screams for his name in the same way he screams whenever [[GetterRobo Musashi]] bites the dust.
*** [[spoiler:NotQuiteDead]]: [[spoiler:Euphemia faked her death in ''Saisei-hen'', but it is only available in the ZEXIS Route]]. {{Retcon}}ned in ''Jigoku-hen'', where events reveal [[spoiler:"Lelouch" was defeated by the Black Knights, thus following the normal route, where Euphemia is KilledOffForReal]].
** Before going off to fight the Anti-Spiral, everyone can use the teleport/warp points inside of Chou Ginga Dai-Gurren to go home to visit their friends. Everyone gets to have one last good time with the people they love. The exception is Noriko because she has nobody. Of course, everyone is quick to cheer her up, but it was still a really sad moment. Overall, it's nice for Noriko to have a character moment that's outside the typical story beats of the OVA.
* ThatOneBoss: The Overdevil, [[Anime/TurnAGundam Turn X]] and [[EurekaSeven Dewey Novak's flagship, the Ginga-gou]] in ''Z''
** ''Hakai-hen'' has the dreaded big three of Emperor Zul, [[DancougarNova Moon Will's Original Dancougar]] and [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Lord Genome's Lazengann]]. All of them can and will one-shot your units if you aren't careful.
** [[spoiler: Level 99 Gaioh, who is only available if you're on hard mode and pick the second of a particular conversation choice]].
** [[MobileSuitZetaGundam Haman Karn]] in ''Jigoku-hen'', during the "[[MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Day of the Unicorn]]" event, due to god-like evasion rates and having no one on the allied roster having accuracy-increasing Spirit Commands at their disposal.
** From the same game, Gauron, [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJ as]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsW usual]]. Arguably even worse this time if simply due to, but not limited to, that he can ''ignore size differences'' meaning he can now tear through your Super Robots just as easily as Real Robots now.
* ThatOneLevel: The final scenario for [[Characters/SuperRobotWars Rand Travis]] on EX-Hard mode is ''insanely'' annoying, both because of its length and the sheer difficulty spike the BigBad is compared to the previous few scenarios. SaveScumming is almost a must to avoid an {{Unwinnable}} situation.
** Some of the special mission requirements are near impossible to beat without a great deal of luck and SaveScumming. The only real way to beat ''Z'' on hard mode while getting the skill points, ending points and such is LevelGrinding repair units (making Rand's route a little easier since the Gunleon has this ability) to high levels as soon as you get a scenario without a time limit.
** Just about any stage in ''Hakai-hen'' with Dimensional Beasts is a pain in the ass, especially Scenario 50. This doesn't get any better when Artificial-class Beasts present themselves anywhere in ''Saisei-hen''.
** Scenario 35 of ''Saisei-hen'' (of both routes, no exception) starts off with all your characters getting [[MindRape their heads messed with]], starting them off at 70 Will, no use of Spirit Commands while hordes of Artificial-class Dimensional Beasts close in, dealing high damage to your units while taking paltry amounts in return due to the low Will.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''Hakai-hen'' and ''Saisei-hen'' being on a handheld attracted a large number of complaints, as well as the removal of the Tri-Battle System. A combination of these two things has also limited the returning series to their key cast members and units only. Additionally, the fact that [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it was planned to be a PlayStation 2 game]] had some fans upset, as the [=PSP=] is seen as a downgrade in terms of graphical capabilities.
** Replacing the ''{{Eureka Seven}}'' TV series with the not-so-well received movie in ''Hakai-hen'', which had fans crying it was ruined now that the Nirvash is no longer broken, and the film version was considered by many as garbage.
** ''Macross Frontier'' units are rendered medium-sized rather than small in ''Hakai-hen'', and no longer have their "Pinpoint Barrier", which means they're no longer the {{Game Breaker}}s they were in ''L''. Naturally, people complained; however, the barrier does return in ''Saisei-hen''.
*** What's funny is ''L'' [[MisBlamed got the size wrong, too]]: the [[MacrossFrontier VF-25 Messiah]] is roughly the same height as medium-sized mainstays Mazinger Z and the [[MobileSuitGundam RX-78-2 Gundam]], making it too large to be considered "small". ''L'' worked them in due to a lack of small units (it only had the [[KotetsuJeeg Jeegs]] and the {{Iczer}}s), but ''Hakai-hen'' has enough small units to restore them to their original size.
** Part of the fanbase that complained that Tori no Uta, "[[MacrossFrontier LION]]", and by extension the entire soundtrack of ''Macross Frontier'', is much better in ''L''. Don't even try to mention "[[FinishingMove Absolute Nova Beast Attack]]" for the ''Dancougar Nova''.
*** Likewise, ''Macross 7'' gets a bit of a flak for not including some of their songs, mostly "Angel Voice" and "Holy Lonely Night".
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Although Advent and Ascpelius are awesome for using rescuing Hibiki in very dynamic moments. Gadlight kills Advent and Hibiki becomes so infuriated that he comes up with his finisher.]]
* TheWoobie: Setsuko; Uther might've surpassed her for this status in ''Saisei-hen''.
* UnfortunateImplications: In Scenario 57 of ''Saisei-hen'', during the "[[spoiler: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vrhIyYrJ4k Lelouch]]]] leaves" route, [[spoiler: he enacts the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxsjdsUJ0A8 Zero Requiem]], and ends up being stabbed through the chest. Apparently, he can survive with no one the wiser thanks to Celestial Being's regenerative technology, despite death occuring within a couple of minutes. The unfortunate part is all of ZEXIS state now that the world believes he's dead, he has to become Zero for the rest of his life. Canonically, [[CodeGeass Suzaku Kururugi]] becoming Zero forever is treated as a horrible punishment, but since ZEXIS is Lelouch's allies and frirends, it's treated as a heartwarming event. It's disturbingly out of character for the entire team, and it's hard to tell if Lelouch is simply being given a free pass or a FateWorseThanDeath]]. On the other hand, that makes it practically the same as the ''MobileSuitGundamWing'' ending, which is contrasted with in the other available ZEXIS route.
** One way to look at it is [[spoiler: ZEXIS is telling Lelouch that if he wants to repay for all the crimes he's committed, he must live and work to make up for it instead of throwing his life away while still making people suffer because of the Zero Requiem]].
* UpToEleven: ''Saisei-hen'' is the only [=SRW=] to date to surpass the [[http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars/Z2.2/Series number of series in a single game]] previously set by ''Alpha 3''.
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