* BrokenBase: The band lost a lot of fans when they released their album ''Style'', as it showcased a more mainstream sound that many did not appreciate.
* HoYay: Played straight during their VisualKei era, specially in live shows. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmdGCjUJ1Ho For example...]]
** Averted in real life. Despite the video, Ryuichi is married with a female partner and Sugizo has a daughter.