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!!''Marvel vs. Capcom 3''

[[folder:Pre-Release]]
[[WMG:Guesses on the ''[=MvC3=]'' roster. (bolded means confirmed)]]
* Sillouettes from the trailer and promotional materials:
** Marvel: '''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica''', '''Doctor Doom''', '''[[ComicBook/DoctorStrange Dormammu]]''', '''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}''', '''[[ComicBook/FantasticFour Super Skrull]]''', '''[[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'''
** Capcom: '''[[VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} Felicia]]''', '''[[Franchise/StreetFighter Chun-Li]]''', '''[[VideoGame/DeadRising Frank West]]''' (definitely '''[[Franchise/ResidentEvil Albert Wesker]]'''), '''[[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Dante]]'''
*** Those guesses seem to be right. Additionally, the mysterious female above Deadpool in the promo art [[http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=33040&id=103866276322773 is most likely]] '''[[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Trish]]''', while the game's [[http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/apr/17/all-official-marvel-vs-capcom-3-works/ official announcement]] also says that '''ComicBook/{{Storm|MarvelComics}}''' and '''ComicBook/{{Magneto}}''' will be making a reappearance, so fans of ''2'' can rejoice that two of the [[FanNickname Four]] [[GameBreaker Gods]] are returning.
*** I'll lol if the gods get {{nerf}}ed. Also, I hope '''ComicBook/SpiderMan''' gets a more competitive moveset.
*** [[http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np5/mvc3-e3fix.jpg This new promo poster from E3]] seems to heavily affirm Super Skrull, Dr. Doom, Frank West, and Trish. Your guess is as good as mine on who that fifth guy on the far right (next to Deadpool) is.
* ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}, ComicBook/EmmaFrost, [[VideoGame/GodHand Gene]], '''ComicBook/GhostRider''', ComicBook/ThePunisher, and '''[[Franchise/AceAttorney Phoenix Wright]]''' have officially been [[http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8429873 jossed.]] But hey, it's still possible that we'll get DLC, right?
** Ugh, I hope so. I said if Daredevil and Ghost Rider didn't make the cut I would eat my hat. Also [[VideoGame/{{Killer7}} Mask de Smith]], I was absolutely positive he would be in there.
** Ditto for the ComicBook/FantasticFour. The Super Skrull is in the game in their place.
** And forget about seeing characters from ''VideoGame/RivalSchools'' and ''VideoGame/PowerStone''.
*** What? Why does ''Capcom'' hate Power Stone these days?
*** Because it's neither ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' nor ''VideoGame/MegaMan'', dummy.
*** How can anyone say with a straight-face that [[VideoGame/RivalSchools Kyosuke Kagami]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy02P6ZxgJE wouldn't]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xljvV0l4W7s be]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4-Ce_00PB0 fun]]. He already has a set of well-defined fighting-game moves, his own game heavily uses assists and aerial combos, he's already been playable in 2-D on ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium Capcom vs. SNK 2]]'', he plays far differently from a Shotoclone, and you know what, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfFH8nvHOzM Just]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfNHdcTD8FE look]].
** And now, ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} and '''ComicBook/DoctorStrange''' were jossed as well.
** VideoGame/MegaManX is also jossed.
** You won't be seeing any ''VideoGame/MonsterHunter'', ''VideoGame/SengokuBasara'', or ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' characters. [[VideoGame/StreetFighterIII Gill]] isn't in the game either.
* I'm gonna say '''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers Hawkeye]]'''. The four other characters appearing in the films (Iron man, Hulk, Thor, Captain Amaerica) are confirmed, so why not him too?
* [[VideoGame/MegaManX Green Biker Dude]], '''[[VideoGame/MegaManX Zero]]''', [[VideoGame/MegaManX and Iris.]] I wonder what Deadpool would say if I Iris died on Zero's team...
* '''VideoGame/ViewtifulJoe''' is pretty much confirmed, he's on the bottom right in the newest silhouette picture. Personally this troper is hoping that Marvel includes ComicBook/HowardTheDuck.
* What? no mention of [[ComicBook/SquirrelGirl The Anti-Life?]], her ability to beat up everyone already fits in with a fighting game.
* [[VideoGame/MegaManLegends Mega Man Volnutt]] will probably return because there is a ''Legends'' stage.The fact that we only have around 10 stages, means this will be the only stage representing the Mega Man series. The only Logical reason for that is that the Mega Man in the game is the Legends one.
** '''Tron Bonne''' is back and playable, so Volnutt is probably not going to be in. Let's hope that Zero makes the jump from ''Tatsunoko vs Capcom'' to ''3''.
*** Yes, but ''Mega Man Legends 3'' is in development. Which makes this EXTREMELY likely.
* '''Strider Hiryu''' will be confirmed absent. They are quite serious about avoiding repetition (Dormammu > Ghost Rider) so Dante will fulfill the spirit of Strider Hiryu.
** Actually, there is actually a good chance of Strider Hiryu coming back and he plays differently from Dante anyway.
*** Dante gets another special that involves a giant ball of energy circling him. Hmm, sounds similar.
*** Not really and they're still different enough to co exist.
*** Strider Hiryu deconfirmed! http://twitter.com/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/28517821235 ""I know that Strider Hiryu is popular overseas. This time around, the concept of the game is different, so we did not consider him." Sad day indeed. Overshadowed by the release of Zero.
*** His deconfirmation is now invalid as of the announcement of [[UpdatedRerelease Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3]].
* A new silhouette seems to indicate '''[[VideoGame/StreetFighterIV Crimson Viper]]''' might make the cut.
* I'm seeing a distinct lack of Capcom villains. I'm gonna put a vote in for [[VideoGame/MegaMan Bass]] and M. Bison. Bonus points if he says [[MemeticMutation OF]] [[AscendedMeme COURSE!!]]
** Bass is more of a {{antihero}}. If you want a ''Mega Man'' villain, there's always Dr. Wily, Splash Woman, [[VideoGame/MegaManX Sigma, Vile]], [[VideoGame/MegaManZero Omega or Dr. Weil.]]
** Bringing up Capcom villains and not mentioning [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Wesker]]? For shame.
*** Albert Wesker is in, baby. And he's awesome.
* These two are never going to happen, but having The Smith Syndicate from ''VideoGame/{{Killer 7}}'' and Scrooge [=McDuck=] would be amazing.
* Scrooge? For Creator/{{Disney}}? Nah, get someone cooler like [[WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitch Stitch]]!
** There won't be any Disney character though. That said, they can always use Marvel's own Howard The Duck or Even Slapstick of the New Warriors.
* The Episode 3 Trailer might introduce returning "Gods" Magneto and Storm. As well as Mega Man (and Roll, possibly).
** Doubt Roll will be back if Mega Man classic returns. If anything, it might be Mega Man classic and [[VideoGame/MegaManX Zero]]. I'm also thinking it might be Storm with ComicBook/BlackPanther.
*** I was actually being general on which Mega Man it'll be. We know it isn't [[VideoGame/MegaManX X]], I don't think it'll be [[VideoGame/MegaManLegends Volnutt/Trigger]] due to Tron's return. I was thinking [[VideoGame/MegaManZero Zero]] and [[VideoGame/MegaMan Roll]] being the coverage finish. Roll's managed an underdog status getting into the last ''Vs.'' title. As for Black Panther... who knows, I just figured Magneto would be a solid un-reveal for a return.
* Unfortunate that Phoenix is unlikely to be in the game (he could be a good counterpart to Daredevil who isn't in either), but what about Franziska von Karma? Didn't ''Tatsunoko vs. Capcom'' have some data on her moves but dropped her entirely since Phoenix couldn't be added? I mean, with her whip and skill, she definitely can be in a fighting game? And on a lesser note: Godot, he had a cool pose with the SwordCane in the last case of the 3rd game.
** Heck, Franziska could be paired up with '''ComicBook/SheHulk''', their interactions would be comedy gold.
* Come on, people! ComicBook/MoonKnight! I'd also wager on Mega Man classic (Pre-''X''), Zero, either Akuma or M. Bison, and maybe Brock, the military guy from ''Dead Rising''. At least one psychopath should make it in... In fact, I doubt it, but how cool would it be if Adam the Clown made it in?!
** '''Akuma''' is unlikely since they are avoiding characters with similar moves. Bison is a possibility or maybe Urien from ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIII''.
* Unfortunately, Phoenix is out. But what about his rival, Miles Edgeworth, who was [[EnsembleDarkhorse popular]] enough to get his own game, which was different from the main games? Or what about Apollo Justice, if they're trying to bring in the new story that has started in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' universe?
** How about Steel Samurai? Sure he's pretty obscure, but how about him squaring off with Silver Samurai?
*** Steel Samurai is a fictional character of a show in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series, not really a candidate for the game. Silver Samurai won't be coming back anyway. If there's an AA character, it would be one of the other Attorneys or Maybe even Gumshoe. Or none at all for that matter.
* Before anyone asks, yes, the ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' franchise wasn't included--this time, though, we actually [[http://www.dragon-tear.net/forum/showpost.php?p=253996&postcount=15 got a reason from Capcom for it]] via [[http://twitter.com/Ryota_Niitsuma/status/28520257938 a tweet from the development staff]] (Japanese). Specifically, there were initial plans to include Fou-lu from ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireIV'' but these were cut due to the ''Marvel vs. Capcom'' series being geared towards Western audiences; the developers would still like to include a certain draconic GodEmperor WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in a future VideoGame/CapcomVs.
** The interesting note here--that the planned cameo was from ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireIV'' (which is literally a ten-year-old game) and ''not'' ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireDragonQuarter''--whilst the latter game was most ''definitely'' a cause of a BrokenBase outside of Japan (and has even been accused of being a FranchiseKiller), it ''did'' do reasonably well in Japan and has a popular fandom. Capcom actually does seem to have been taking the semi-official view of disowning ''Dragon Quarter'' since about 2007 due to the poor reaction outside of the US.
** At any rate, any appearances of ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' chars are very likely to be with VideoGame/CapcomVs games not geared primarily for Western audiences and probably featuring chars from ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireIV'' or one of the earlier games in the franchise (barring mass fandom demand).
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vMlE2vEvm0 DLC has been confirmed]], with '''[[Franchise/ResidentEvil Jill Valentine]]''' and '''[[ComicBook/DoctorStrange Shuma-Gorath]]''' as the first two available characters. The hopes and dreams of many a fan now run high.
* It was recently shown that a stage will be set in The Hand's lair, probably hinting that Elektra will make it in. Since all the Stages belong to a character.
* I'm not guessing here, just giving a new info: '''[[Franchise/StreetFighter Akuma]]''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA50TIXLk6I is quite likely confirmed, though not officially yet.]]
** VideoGame/MegaManX is highly likely to become a DLC. [[https://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fshoryuken.com%2Fcontent%2Fjapan-s-top-55-most-requests-marvel-vs-capcom-3-dlc-characters-2594%2F&session_token=KegzazVqPkJBogYVE8_j0VsvioJ8MTI5NDU2MTUyNQ%3D%3D He's the freakin' #1 top contender for Capcom characters poll in Japan.]]
*** Word on the street is that that poll is a faker.
* So Seth Killian said there was a character who made his mind melt, and that their inclusion wasn't a surprise, but their implementation was, and they had a problems balancing the character. I'm going to wager a guess that it's [[VideoGame/DeadRising2 Chuck Greene]], and that he's difficult to balance because he makes combo weapons on the go to provide a large variety of possibilities.
* [[http://30ninjas.com/blog/mvc3-ryota-niitsuma-talks-frank-west-deconfirmationdlc Unfortunately, Frank West was confirmed not to be in.]] However, Niitsuma stated that he was very far along in development before being scrapped (to the point of even being in an early, unreleased version of one of the trailers), so it's quite possible that he'll be DLC.
** There's a rumor floating around the net that Frank and Elektra may be released as free DLC. Only time will tell if this is true.
* Dust will be DLC. She shows up in Deadpools ending, But what's intersting is that everyone else in Pool's ending is a playable charecter. So why is she the odd woman out? And she has a unique apperence, and could have an interesting moveset with her powers.
* Tessa from VideoGame/RedEarth, making for her third appearance outside her original 1996 game. Mainly because her appearance would work well in HD, because she'd be the only witch-like character in the game and because she's something of a fan-favorite from that series ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ouVmTU1BXs that]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMBbpsed16k and]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sipLaWsgKyM because]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTszs_lNQRo her]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEpu1IsDDAs gameplay]]-[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDp6CjVpTO8 style]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiAdj7gLz2g looks]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP2akc5vLDQ really]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQMq9xFFIE0 freakin']] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JiG5GtWFTg fun]]. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpJtTJl2dcg Really]]).
* Samanosuke Akechi or UsefulNotes/YagyuJubei from the ''VideoGame/{{Onimusha}}'' series. Soki appeared in VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom so there's hope.
* Am I the only one that wants to see {{ComicBook/Venom}} replaced by Anti-Venom? He basically has all of Venom's abilities but with a few new ones as well.

[[WMG:Creator/StanLee and/or [[MemeticMutation Yipes]] will be the announcer(s) for ''Marvel vs. Capcom 3''.]]
It would be the ultimate form of {{Fanservice}}. Imagine the (co-)progenitor of many of Marvel's most recognizable faces actually [[AnnouncerChatter commenting on the ultimate battle]] and [[CatchPhrase shouting out most of his most famous lines]].

"EXCELSIOR!!!" "Face front, true believers!" "'Nuff said!"

Do ''not'' deny it. You ''want'' this to happen.

As for Yipes, '''[[IncomingHam IT'S]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA MAHVEL]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ga9Jvdw9U BAYBEE]]!!!''' Of course, his inclusion would jack the rating up to AO ''[[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids at the very least]]'', but the perpetual SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}} will be worth it.

Or... they could have a ''dual-audio'' track, allowing you to choose between Stan Lee ''and'' Yipes. Face it; the fandom would probably do a collective squee.
** New footage has reviled that there is more than one announcer in the game. They must be next.
*** Jossed.

[[WMG: Who will be the Final boss for Marvel vs Capcom 3?]]
* This tropers guess is Sentry/The Void. He could easily make a great 3 stage boss.
* What if the final boss was a Capcom character? [[VideoGame/MegaMan Dr.Wily]] would make a great 3 form boss, with forms taken from random Mega Nan games.
** It was implied that the boss would a Marvel boss. Though it's possible there would be a Marvel boss and a Capcom boss (like ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNKMillenniumFight2000 Capcom vs. SNK]]''.).
** [[VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters WHAT IF IT'S RUGAL?]] Just kidding.
* Annihilus would also be a great choice.
* Mikaboshi from the Marvel Chaos War story would make a good final boss.
* It would be interesting to see [[VideoGame/MegaManX Sigma]] as the final boss, considering his loathing of organics and fascination for gigantic battle bodies.
** However, it seems Doom and Wesker release some kind of Sealed Evil in a can.
* [[VideoGame/{{Okami}} Yami,]] please! Just to hear Amaterasu snarl like the devil and proceed to go supernova on that fishie.
* [[VideoGame/MonsterHunter White Fatalis]]... Just throwing it out there...
** All Jossed, it's ComicBook/{{Galactus}}.

[[WMG:What do you think the story for Marvel vs Capcom 3 will be about?]]
* Call me crazy, but I guess it'll be about the fate of two worlds. Just a guess on my part.
** Ah, but what causes it? Maybe, Sentry becomes The Void and causes both words to meet.
* Going by the recent trailer, it seems like the villains are are united. Maybe it's a new [[LegionOfDoom Lethal Legion]] Made of both Marvel and Capcom villains?
** But there's only (to date) 4 villains on the roster (5 depending on how Deadpool's feeling). [[SarcasmMode That must be some alliance.]] Personally, I'd like to see something like the Dark Phoenix saga, however unlikely it may be.
*** Actually, the above post guessed correctly. It's been revealed that the story does indeed involve a Villain Team up. The story revolves around Doom and Wesker forming a team with villains from both sides. Also, the villain count is now up to six, now that MODOK and Magneto have been confirmed. We will probably get more villains soon.
*** Hopefully some Capcom villains, because so far it seems like Wesker and Doom are just gathering Marvel villains as their underlings or something.
** It's posible that some of the other villains show up in the story.
* I'm just hoping it'll offer some explanation for how Wesker can get someone like Captain America or Amaterasu to fight alongside him.
** Probably not, since they never bothered before. It doesn't really matter in gameplay anyway.
*** Gameplay and Storyline Segregation.
* Jossed, the game [[ExcusePlot has no]] actual Story Mode.

[[WMG: The reason Spider-Man and Mega Man haven't shown up yet is because they're being saved for the last trailer.]]
They're Marvel and Capcom's most iconic characters, respectively. They're saving the best for last, so to speak.
* Actually, the reason Spider-Man hasn't been revealed yet is because they were waiting until after ''VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions'' to come out.Now that it's out, he'll probably be revealed soon.
** And Spidey was revealed. But it was with [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Wesker]] and not Mega Man.

[[WMG: There will be a shout-out to Marvel being owned by Creator/{{Disney}}]]
In the form of a very Disney-esque character that was owned by Marvel prior to the sale being made one of the fighters... Howard the Duck!
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvzVnD9xexc Here's a Youtube video]] that has all of the characters slots on the selection screen (with the unrevealed characters labeled since there's no stills of them yet), and two of the slot labels are She-Hulk and Zero, who were recently revealed. One of the Marvel slots has Howard the Duck on it, so I'm hoping this one's true!
** That one was jossed though, even then Howard wouldn't be a Shout out to Disney, since he's been in marvel for years and they already said Disney had nothing to do with the game.
*** The "shoutout to Disney" portion is jossed, but I still have high hopes that Howard will be in. Considering some of the other character choices, it's not that far a stretch. Besides, Marvel needs a short character to counter Amaterasu and Viewtiful Joe.

[[WMG: Guesses on cameos and shout outs.]]
If they can't get Phoenix Wright as a fighter, at least have him in a cutscene with other lawyer characters like Daredevil and such with She-Hulk.
* She-Hulk quotes Phoenix Wright in one of her victory quotes, saying that someone called her Phoenix Wright with muscles, and that she called an ambulance after that.
** Confirmed on Phoenix Wright. He and Miles Edgeworth are both seen in She-Hulk's ending.
* I'm guessing Daredevil could appear in Ultimate [[ComicBook/CivilWar2006 as an alternate costume for]] ComicBook/IronFist.
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Post-Release]]
[[WMG: ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]'' is a ContinuityReboot]]
I know the previous games had little in terms of plot, but they did have some small story elements and character interactions, mostly in the endings.
But in ''3'', the events of the previous games seem to be completely ignored. Returning characters such as Ryu and Wolverine act like they don't know each other, despite the fact that they have fought and joined forces to combat bigger threats in the past. The Apocalypse, Onslaught and Abyss events are never mentioned by the characters that did participate in them. Additionally, most returning characters (especially the Marvel ones) are now different in appearance and wear different outfits, possibly implying that they are different versions from the ones that were in the 90's games, despite having similar movesets. And since the character roster is also different, one can assume that the characters that did not return probably never participated in a major conflict, and that the ones added in this game are "new" to this continuity and didn't exist in the previous one.

It's pretty obvious that they decided to press the reset button, and deviated from the original story in favor of a new one. If this game were to continue the story started by the previous entries, you'd expect characters like Shadow or Ruby Heart to return. But since the events of the older games are never referenced, and the characters act like they never happened, it's safe to assume that this game is not set in the same continuity as the others.

I know that Chun-Li has a color resembling Shadow Lady and that Akuma had a Cyber-Akuma as his DLC costume ([[TemporaryOnlineContent which is no longer available]]), but those are likely meant to be MythologyGags, just like almost all the other colors/costumes. Same goes for the "Days of Future Past" stage, which is probably just an alternate BadFuture, since many of the characters marked in the poster appear in other characters' endings.

My theory is that the original continuity ended with the defeat of Onslaught and the Capcom characters returned to their world(s) in Captain America's ending. ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom2 Marvel vs. Capcom 2]]'' could very well be a DreamMatchGame due to the large roster, odd stuff like Charlie returning to his original self with no explanation, and having less of a plot compared to the previous games. But if you want to count it, then everyone went home after the defeat of Abyss, only to never be heard of again.

[[WMG: [[ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse Scrooge McDuck]] will be a DLC character]]
Capcom did make the NES VideoGame/DuckTales games and Disney owns Marvel now, so it's possible.
* And he could have the moon as a DLC stage! It'd be PERFECT!
** Remember that Capcom have to make yet another license with Disney to make it happen. And still, if it could happen, it would wreck the very name of "Marvel vs. Capcom" since there's a Disney character inside!
* Another reason why Marvel needs to add in Howard the Duck. The PERFECT rivalry.

[[WMG: Doom is teaming up with Wesker to save Latveria.]]
For anyone who's played VideoGame/ResidentEvil5, Wesker is a complete NietzscheWannabe who wants to kill off most of the world's population so that the few remaining can become uuber humans. So, why is Doom allying with him? So he can stop Wesker from virus bombing Latveria at a crucial moment! Of course, he might let Wesker first annihilate a few other countries...

[[WMG: [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Heimdall]] will appear in a future Capcom game]]
[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDG5eR-o6ho His ending]]: [[spoiler:Thor tells Heimdall, his friend, to look after the world. When Heimdall asked it, Thor means "The other world". This "world" must be Capcom's.]]

[[WMG: Dormammu will be the BigBad in a future game]]
That, or he'll be the BigBad of a Capcom game, either Franchise/StreetFighter, VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}, VideoGame/GhostsNGoblins, or Franchise/ResidentEvil. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpTcVod75xY&feature=related His ending]]: [[spoiler:He creates a dimension hole and recruits [[VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} Lord Raptor]], Wesker, Akuma, and [[VideoGame/GhostsNGoblins Red Arremer]] to help him conquer the Capcom world.]]

[[WMG: Thor's second alternate costume is supposed to make him look somewhat like ComicBook/{{Superman}}.]]
The two have clashed in the past, and Superman did wield Mjolnir in ''ComicBook/JLAAvengers'', so this could be a subtle ShoutOut.

[[WMG: The game takes place after Phoenix Wright was disbarred.]]
One of She-Hulk's win quotes says she was compared to him and then she called an ambulance. I guess she took it as an insult, given Wright was an impressive lawyer until that incident with the evidence forging, and now he's reduced to hobo in appearance.

[[WMG: Keiji Inafune is the reason why Mega Man (Any of them) isn't in [=MvC3=]]]
Notice that none of the Mega Mans are in the final roster but Zero is there. Then WordOfGod said that Zero is supposed to represent the Mega Man in the game. This is Inafune's WriterRevolt upped to eleven, as ''Zero'' was supposed to be Mega Man X before ExecutiveMeddling stepped in and he wanted to make a point.

[[WMG: Galactus, storywise, is the reason why the ComicBook/FantasticFour aren't in this game.]]
As he said: "Much like the Fantastic Four, you are nothing to me." So he must have beaten the four before.

[[WMG: Amaterasu is VideoGame/ViewtifulJoe's Pet]]
Well, Joe DID ride her in opening two.
* Please. If anything, Joe is ''her'' pet.
** They are just partners, just like in ''VideoGame/{{Okamiden}}''! Is just that even with Joe's size we know he is no kid anymore... even if he doesn't get that...

[[WMG: Mega Man is absent because...]]
He's going to be in VideoGame/SuperSmashBros 4/U whatever and they want to make a big to-do about his return to the fighting genre via Smash Bros.
** Due to the fact that he is also missing from [[UpdatedRerelease Ultimate,]] it is looking incredibly likely that ExecutiveMeddling is going on behind the scenes, especially seeing as Franchise/MegaMan is remaining static with only 2 representatives.
*** CONFIRMED!
[[/folder]]

!!''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3''

[[folder:Pre-Release]]
[[WMG: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3]]
Several gaming sites have already acknowledged the rumor, and leaking legend Lupinko and sidekick Chibi are dropping hints on who's in, as opposed to just giving us the list. If their hints have been decrypted correctly, we're getting Phoenix Wright, Strider Hiryu, and Red Arremer for certain, with Thanos and Dr. Strange strongly believed to be in.
** We're getting Strider Hiryu, Red Arremer, Vergil, Phoenix Wright, Frank West and Nemesis for the Capcom side with Doctor Strange, Nova, Hawkeye, Ghost Rider, Rocket Raccoon and Iron Fist on the Marvel side.

[[WMG: If there's new Darkstalkers character to be revealed, it would be Lord Raptor.]]
He shows up in Dormammu's ending, along with Wesker, Akuma and Red Arremer/Firebrand. They're playable (especially since Firebrand has been confirmed), sans Raptor - so it's a matter of time that he's confirmed as another DS rep.
** Didn't Niitsuma state that if he were to add any new DS reps, the first pick would be Talbain?
*** [[http://iplaywinner.com/news/2010/10/23/niitsuma-disconfirms-characters-for-mvc3-but-gives-some-hope.html Yup.]] Unless there's more DLC coming our way (and I doubt it), [[YankTheDogsChain don't get your hopes up.]]
*** Dang, still no Jon Jon.
*** He's in... sort of... Amaterasu's DLC alt resembles him. Or the Jon fans are getting trolled almost as hard as the Mega Man fans.

[[WMG: Wright's moveset will have the following]]
* The "slam table" maneuver. Possibly summoning a table
** Confirmed as part of his Level 3
* Throwing/whacking people with evidence (With a yell of '''''[[color:red:Take That!]]''''')
** Confirmed
* An uppercut, also with a yell of '''''[[color:red:Take That!]]'''''
--> Oh, about your uppercut... Try yelling, "Take that!" next time. I find it packs a little more punch.
** Jossed, sadly.
* A "pendulum corpse" maneuver to swing across the screen.
** Jossed.
* Something that stops an opponent with a yell of '''''[[color:red:Hold It!]]'''''
** Sort of: every third hit with it dizzies the opponent.
* '''''[[color:red:Objection!]]''''' as a super.
** Confirmed as a special which initiates his [[StanceSystem most aggressive stance]].
** Phoenix Wright's Level 3 Hyper will be...[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFldBVWFgWo a boot to the head.]]
** Phoenix Wright's ''Objection!'' will be used to insta-cancel enemy Hypers (at some expense, of course).

[[WMG: Wright will be mute in the English versions outside of Objection/Hold It/Take Thats]]
His subtitles and mouth movement will be accompanied by beeps.
* Failing that; whoever is going to voice him in the ''VideoGame/ProfessorLayton'' crossover will voice him here first.
* The "mute" hypothesis is jossed; whether his voice actor will be reused remains to be seen.

[[WMG: Most of the new cast will be replaced before Ultimate comes out.]]
[[AuthorsSavingThrow To keep up the "surprise" of new characters]], all of the leaked characters will be quickly replaced by [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute similar characters]].
* Doctor Strange -> Scarlet Witch
* Iron Fist -> Daredevil
* Rocket Raccoon -> Howard the Duck
* Nova -> Silver Surfer
* Vergil -> Nero
* Frank West -> Chuck Greene
* Phoenix Wright -> Franziska von Karma
* Nemesis -> Tyrant
** {{Jossed}} by WordOfGod. The list is already closed.
** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Um, wouldn't Phoenix Wright's substitute be more likely to have been Apollo Justice? I mean, they're both Defense Attorneys...]]

[[WMG:There's going to be a reference to Odin's beer, and where you can buy it in Ultimate]]
Because this game needs an equivalent to the [[Memes/ResidentEvil Jill Sandwich]].

[[WMG:There's gonna be a second Galactus fight]]
When you defeat Galactus in [=MvC3=] he says '''[[OhCrap I MUST NOW SQUASH YOU LIKE THE BUG THAT YOU ARE.]]''' Then it's the ending. In [=UMVC3=], Galactus will unleash his full power and become a full-fledged SNKBoss.
** Well, it was said that Galactus has a few new tricks in Ultimate. I wouldn't rule this out.
*** Perhaps he'll actually fight you mano-a-mano (I.E. not taking up the entire background), and have the strength of Hulk/Sentinel, the speed of Vergil/Strider, and the stamina of pre-patch Sentinel, all with super-fast versions of the moves he already has.

[[WMG:Doctor Strange's ending will be the same as Hsien-Ko's ending, but real]]
...because that's what I really, really want it to be.
* Jossed. And yet
-->'''Doctor Strange''': (''win quote against Hsien-Ko''): Your condition... My magicks might be able to help.

[[WMG:The Nemesis T-Type in ''Ultimate'' is a Tricell experiment GoneHorriblyRight]]
Here's the Tricell Laboratory stage [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVD1O3MwEA before]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRAxDUmxwuo after]]. After breaking out, Nemesis swiped a Rocket Launcher, picked out his favorite trench coat and wrought an adequate quantity of havoc.

[[WMG: Phoenix Wright is going to be a LethalJokeCharacter]]
* Seth and Niitsuma pretty much confirms this. He's going to have the best assists in the game according to them.
** Semi-confirmed: Nick is [[DifficultButAwesome awkward in early gameplay but can improve as he moves through his stance system]], ending with the most damaging Level 3 in the game. Unfortunately, one of his assists lost its invincibility with the December 2011 patch for ''Ultimate''.

[[WMG:Phoenix Wright [[AssistCharacter will not be entering the fray alone.]]]]
To bridge off of the above "Wright's moveset will have the following" and "Phoenix Wright is going to be a LethalJokeCharacter" [=WMGs=], we've already heard that Nick fights ''without'' fighting. However, that doesn't mean that he can't have someone else do the fighting ''for'' him (loophole!). And because of the PowerCreepPowerSeep elements of this series, who's not to say that Franziska's whip couldn't actually hurt one of Nick's foes or that Godot could actually fire {{eye beams}} ([[MemeticMutation of course]], [[ActorAllusion this means that he'd would]] [[WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009 have to be voiced by]] Creator/NolanNorth) or that a simple FingerWag from Edgeworth could actually demoralize the opposition? Sure, it sounds weird, but when [[VideoGame/FinalFight a former-pro-wrestler-turned-mayor]] can piledrive a DimensionLord, nothing is no longer out of the question.
** Confirmed. Maya, The Judge, and Missile appear in some of his attacks.

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[[WMG:The Poster in the background of the Sentinel Stage = Mega Man's return?]]
The poster in the background of the new Sentinel stage there is a poster with characters from Marvel vs Capcom 2 that aren't playable in 3. All are marked with red stickers that say things along the lines of "apprehended" except for one: Mega Man. Coincidence? Or the devs Trolling us?
** Don't forget the stickers that say "Slain". It could be a troll, or it could just be SceneryPorn. Who's to say that some of those "Apprehended" characters won't make an appearance either?
** Seth confirmed that it's SceneryPorn ("We think that it's just a cool thing to do".)
** It should be noted that the ''Days of Future Past'' stage occurs in a BadFuture, and thus has no influence on the present states of the characters on the posters (for example, [[spoiler:Jin was supposedly slain, but he's perfectly fine in Hawkeye's ending]]). That being said, [[spoiler:Mega Man ''does'' appear in Nova's ending alongside Proto Man, Roll, Zero, and Beat (as part of the Mega Nova Corps), as well as in Thor's updated ending (seen in the moon alongside Ryu and Morrigan).]]

[[WMG: Phoenix Wright is possibly the biggest badass in Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3]]
First of all, he's got the least combat experience out of all the characters. Secondly, he can pwn Galactus like the rest of the roster. Lastly, he's basically pulling double duty, both fighting and performing an investigation at the same time.

[[WMG: Phoenix Wright's inclusion in Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 is why he only suffered minor injuries in Case 2 of Apollo Justice]]
Having only bore a lot of powerful attacks, Wright became more resilient, hence the hit-and-run and flung into a pole only left him with a sprained ankle.

[[WMG: [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Vergil]]'s resurgence of [[SavedByTheFans popularity from being in this game]] will convince Capcom to bring him {{Back from the Dead}}]]
* Not that the fanbase hasn't been calling for it for a while, he's rarely achieved this level of mainstream attention. Becoming an A-lister should be reason enough (assuming they ever get back to the main canon). Kind of like how they never seem to really kill off [[Franchise/StreetFighter Bison]], only make his status "ambiguous."
* I doubt it, considering that Vergil's DeaderThanDead in ''DMC''. Nothing outside of an AssPull could restore a man who pretty much went nuclear and then had his ''corpse'' used to create certain enemies in the fourth game. And outside of that, it's hinted that the Yamato (which is with Nero) is his SoulJar.
** In a world with so much supernatural stuff floating around I think knowing where the SoulJar is simply makes it that much easier and that much less of an AssPull if you bring him back. Half the work and really the difficult half of the work is already done for you.
* Well that wouldn't be the craziest AssPull games have pulled to bring back a character. [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Kazuya]] and [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog Shadow]] for instance (also see JokerImmunity and PopularityPower). I'm guessing if Vergil is somehow revived/reborn, it'll be as MonsterFromBeyondTheVeil in an artificial body. Sounds like a bad fanfiction plot, I know. However, tons of games out there, action games especially are always reluctant to let go of any character unless they can bring in a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for fear of losing an important gameplay-element, plot be damned (with Vergil's existing popularity, Capcom would be foolish to create an identical substitute for him). Ultimately, he doesn't even to come back in story-terms; Capcom could just implement a non-canon mode letting you play as him.

[[WMG:The reason why Phoenix Wright is in the game is ...]]
Defending the player for the events in Deadpool ending. Hence why they are counterparts to each other. It's going to take an Ace Attorney to prove the player's innocence.
* Alternatively (as suggested below) he is there to convict all the other characters in the game (including himself) for denying Mega Man a slot.

[[WMG:Why Phoenix Wright's Level 3 is the most damaging (i.e 600K) in the game?]]
It's because that the hyper is essentially a mental assault. As many people said, mental breakdowns damages one more heavily than physical harms. Not only that, some of his attacks are indeed inclined with mental assault and YourMindMakesItReal: In the Courtroom Mode, when he's shown to "throw" the right evidences that he found, he isn't throwing it - he just holds it in front of his hand and a variety of projectiles shoots out from it. Then, his "Objection" is basically telling the opponent to shut up - thus, stunning them. As well as his aura finger attack in Turnabout mode; it's him accusing the opponent as guilty.
* But why does it work on the heroic characters as well as the villains?
* Well, in game 2, case 4, Wright did manage to "prove" that Adrian Andrews was responsible for murder, even though she wasn't.
* (OP) Same as why Ghost Rider's Penance Stare works on everyone regardless of how evil they are: GameplayAndStorySegregation.
** Penance Stare appears to work on anyone the Spirit of Vengeance thinks is guilty. GR used it on Doctor Strange once, believing that he was Lucifer in disguise, and it nearly killed him.
*** That is not how the Penance Stare works, it burns the soul for the sins you have committed. Everyone in the cast has sinned therefore everyone is susceptible.
*** [[HumongousMecha Sentinel]] and its soulless chassis say hi. And I'm pretty sure [[VideoGame/{{Okami}} Ammy]] has not committed any sins to speak of.
*** And does a mindless biological abomination like Nemesis even have a soul?

[[WMG:The reason "Venom was never an option" according to Capcom...]]
* ...is because Eddie Brock doesn't have the costume anymore, leaving Marvel no reason to promote him. On the game-play side, Capcom has no interest in his play-style as it was. Therefore, if Eddie Brock is made playable, it'll be in his Anti-Venom state, playing identically to Classic Venom but with multiple tweaks. To remedy to outrage this will surely produce, he'll have an Alternate costume to make him look like his classic self.
* Surely Venom isn't in the game because he would play virtually identical to Spidey. And if you thought the "WHAR MEGAMAN WHAR" whining was bad ''now''...
** ...Except that Venom was in the first two Marvel vs Capcom games and played almost ''nothing'' like Spider-Man.
** Seriously. Aside of an air dash and two moves that only ''aesthetically'' resembled Spidey's and had radically different executions (Web Throw > Web Throw, Ultimate Web Throw > Venom Web), the two played worlds apart. I'd assume that if Anti-Venom ''was'' ever playable, the devs (as suggested by the OP) would make him largely play like Venom (in order to prevent backlash similar to the changes for Jill between ''2'' and ''3'').
* Alternatively, It's because Eddie isn't bonded to any symbiote anymore. And this was after Marvel 3 shipped.
* It's probably because so much of his move set required him to radically change shapes. Apparently as easy as that was to do with sprites it's really difficult to do with 3d models. Basically the same reason we aren't likely to get Dark Stalkers 4 until someone figures out a way around that particularly quirk.

[[WMG: Phoenix Wright gets assisted by Mia Fey during Turnabout Mode]]
The gold aura that surrounds Nick when reaching Turnabout Mode represents her spiritual presence, and the giant aura pointer fingers he gets are thanks to Mia using her ghost abilities to power up his signature move (if this is the case, it could be some sort of ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/GhostTrick'').

[[WMG: The Classic Mega Man will be playable, as a DLC or in a next version]]
He got so many cameos and references in UMvC3 - from not being slain nor apprehended in the Days of Future Past stage, to [[spoiler:appearing in Thor's and Nova's endings]].

[[WMG: The alleged "[[NoodleIncident crime]]" that Phoenix Wright is somehow able to convict everyone of...]]
[[InsaneTrollLogic ...is being responsible for Mega Man not being added.]] Seriously, look at the FanDumb whining. Everyone is guilty. '''EVERYONE'''.
* So if Mega Man is ever added, that means Phoenix Wright will receive the {{nerf}} to end all nerfs.
* Precisely. It'd probably be enough to knock him down to full on JokeCharacter status. And thus, another violent chorus of ruined from another sect of rabid fans arises. [[UnpleasableFanbase It's a vicious cycle, really...]]
* At which point the move becomes powerful again, with the opponent as a player avatar for why it was weak. Only, since he's blaming the players, there will be another backlash, and... ow.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GDH0Ylp7bc#t=5m45s In the words of Noel Brown:]] [[ViciousCycle The loop!]] Never before have words taken out of context been ''so'' fitting.
* My own suspicions are that he is pegging down different crimes for each one, though I think a majority of it is "assault and battery" and the villains are all pretty obvious but here are a few other potential crimes of each character... (Anyone else should feel free to add to this)
** Mike Haggar: Intimidating voters and political opponents (though unintentionally).
*** Or maybe, just street fighting in general (and he's a mayor after all).
** Viewtiful Joe: Illegal copyrighted material distribution and ownership.
** MirrorMatch: Use of forged evidence and wrongful accusation.
** ComicBook/SheHulk: Intimidation of suspects, witnesses, police, and other courtroom officials.
** Iron Man: Operating heavy machinery while intoxicated. Or perhaps, for being an ephebophile (just ask Tron).
** Captain America: Lying about identity on official U.S. Federal forms.
** Amaterasu: Grand theft turnip.
** Morrigan: Some would mistake her for a serial sex offender
** Hulk: Vandalism and destruction of city and government property
** Felicia: Public indecency
** Taskmaster: Possibly the same reason as Joe
** Chris: Excessive use of force; racial insensitivity; crimes against geology
** Dante: Unlicensed ownership of about a dozen fully-automatic weapons
** Galactus: Conspicuous consumption. (Although the Level 3 Hyper doesn't work on Galactus, for some reason.)
** Rocket Raccoon: Violation of district leash laws; no proof of rabies vaccination.
** Shuma-Gorath: Illegal alien.
** Dormammu: Flagrant disregard for "No Smoking" bans.
** Doctor Doom: Would be hard, because he has so many crimes to speak of. Not to mention his diplomatic immunity...
** Wesker: Enacting illegal experiments.
** Frank West: Vandalism and massacre (sure, many people that he killed are either zombies or psychopaths, but still...)
** Deadpool: Probably by just being that insane (and he has killed many, anyway).
** Hsien-Ko: Probably same as Dante
** M.O.D.O.K: Same as Wesker
** Magneto: Hate crimes
** Super-Skrull: Same as Shuma-Gorath
** Doctor Strange: Unauthorised use of magic
** Ghost Rider: Vigilantism
** Sentinel: Not the robot itself, but the arms companies that constructed it are guilty of whatever crimes [[CorruptCorporateExecutive corrupt corporate executives]] commit.
** Tron: Underage machinery operation
** Hiryu: Assassination
** Zero: Murdering of several Mavericks
** C. Viper: Runaway CIA agent

[[WMG:Based on Rocket Racoon's hitting on Ammy...]]
-->"''So... you doing anything after this, cutie? Rowwwr!''"
* If anything ever did happen between them, the result would be a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot super-intelligent, divine-instrument-wielding, gun-toting, celestial brushing tanuki that travels through space fighting space-demons]]. "Rocket Tanuki/Tanukiterasu" would later develop a sibling-rivalry with Chibiterasu. I'm not sure if he/she would speak with a Cockney or Japanese accent.
** A... a physical goddess mating with a raccoon?? Rule 34 is a harsh mistress...
** Or Rocket Raccoon IS Chibi's father, he just doesn't have any raccoon traits for some reason.

[[WMG:If the Fantastic Four are added to this or subsequent [=MvC=] games, they will play similarly to Phoenix Wright]]
One character, probably Reed Richards, will be the point man and the other three will come out as assists and in hypers.

[[WMG: Phoenix Wright isn't actually "fighting" anyone.]]
He's arguing with them about how they don't need to fight and/or whether his opponent's goals are reasonable. The button pressing we do is just Gameplay Mechanics. Since a lot of his arguing in his universe is a kind of magic; (Psyche-locks) in the united Marvel/Capcom-verse, this is a lot stronger. Thus, he convinces them that they don't need to fight. Against truly committed evil/alien beings; if he wins an argument, they're comatose for a little while (same period of time if they get physically beaten in a fight), but when they come to they have no memory of the argument.

[[WMG: Maya Fey knows Mu no Ken]]
Phoenix Wright is pretty hardy to survive attacks from both Marvel and CAPCOM characters for a normal, but what about Maya Fey? Even if her shield fails or she charges into projectiles, she doesn't even look seriously hurt.

[[WMG: Maya Fey is doing the real fighting]]
Phoenix Wright was having a normal day in courtroom land when a giant robot, a mercenary dressed in red and an evil genius with sunglasses busted in through a window. Wright (and everyone else in the court except Maya) is apparently too focused on the trial to notice, so Maya uses her psychic powers to make it so every time Wright OBJECTS or the Judge slams his gavel, giant blue lasers shoot out the opponents.

[[WMG: Ryu's ending in VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken is canon, and Pandora sent Ryu to either the ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath'' or ''Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' universe.]]
It would explain his appearance in both games (and also why Ken didn't follow). Bonus points for Akuma using his Demon Armageddon to launch Ryu right through a portal to parts unknown in this game, which would probably send him to this game (and also explain why Ryu looks like he's waking up from a bad dream in the intro.) With that said....

[[WMG: Akuma is relentlessly pursuing Ryu in all three games: ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath'', ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' and ''Marvel Vs. Capcom 3''.]]
Notice that whenever Ryu is making a crossover appearance, Akuma isn't too far behind? Let me explain. Pandora in ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken'' sent Ryu to the ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath'' universe, where he meets Asura, and promptly gets whaled on by Akuma, who uses his Demon Armageddon to launch Ryu right into a portal and into the next crossover: Marvel Vs. Capcom 3.

[[WMG: Dust will either be in the next game, or in DLC.]]
Out of all the women at Deadpool's party in his ending, she's the only one that wasn't in the game. Foreshadowing perhaps?

[[WMG: The "Slain" and "Apprehended" Poster in Days of Future Past is a SequelHook]]

The VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom game will cover the Civil War Storyline with Capcom Characters. The Poster shows most of the Anti-Registration characters. 'Slain' means that the person eventually died fighting against the Pro-Registration side, while 'Apprehended' means that the person eventually turned him/herself in. Mega Man is still on the loose, hence why he doesn't have a 'Slain' or 'Apprehended' sign

[[WMG: MODOK's moveset is based on a scrapped moveset for Professor Xavier]]
Psychic blasts he can charge up, hidden Danger Room-style traps, and a weaponized mobile chair. It's like they were coming up with ideas for Xavier to be a viable fighting game character before deciding to use a more off-the-wall and entertaining choice. Replace Killer Illumination with a Lvl. 3 called "Astral Plane" (or perhaps a brief buff that turns you into Onslaught) and you get the idea.

[[WMG: At the same time as the ''XBOX One'' and ''PC'' Versions are released there will be a ''UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch'' Version on it's launch as well.]]
The Switch is said to launch March 2017 which is the same time the XBOX One and PC Versions of the Game are coming out and also Capcom have been confirmed to be making games for it.

[[WMG: The reason why Megaman is absent from Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 and Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 is because Capcom considers Zero to be a Megaman.]]
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