* BigNameFan: {{Inverted|Trope}} with Richard Hammond of the BBC's ''Series/TopGear'' and Amazon's ''Series/TheGrandTour''. He's known to have been vocal of his notorious '''dis'''like for Genesis's music, to the point where his co-star Jeremy Clarkson sometimes uses their work (Particularly "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1tFQMjc-IE I Know What You Like (In Your Wardrobe)]]") to {{Troll}} the living shit out of him.
** On the other hand, Jeremy Clarkson himself is a BigNameFan, and he provided liner notes for the 1997 remaster/reissue of ''A Trick of the Tail'' and the box set ''Genesis 1970-1975''.
** Similarly, Music/JohnLennon praised ''Selling England by the Pound'', from which the band members took great encouragement at the time. Other musicians who have praised it include Music/{{Rush}}'s Neal Peart, Music/{{Marillion}}'s Fish, and Music/GuidedByVoices' Robert Pollard.
* FakeAmerican: Rael, the protagonist in ''Music/TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway''. A half-Puerto Rican street kid from [[BigApplesauce New York City]] would be unlikely to refer to money as "notes and coins". But in the song "The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging", he does anyway.
--> '''[[{{MST}} Mike]]:''' [[https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20110430234934/http://www.solsburyhill.org/pre2010files/Lamb1.html Notes and coins? So how long have you lived in New York City, Rael?]]
** Also in the song "Back in NYC", Rael says "your progressive hypocrites". An American (of the time, anyway) would probably have called them "liberal hypocrites".
** The evangelist character in the video for "Jesus He Knows Me" has a DeepSouth accent, at least until his [[OohMeAccentsSlipping accent slips]].
* FakeNationality: The group dresses up in fake mustaches and Mexican garb for the video for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61hzuGGJX0 "Illegal Alien"]].
* HeyItsThatPlace: The video for "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" from ''Invisible Touch'' was shot at the Bradbury Building.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: A one-off reunion with Peter Gabriel, a concert on October 2nd, 1982 at the National Bowl in Milton Keynes, to benefit Gabriel's WOMAD arts festival, was never officially recorded or filmed. The only record that exists are [[http://www.genesis-movement.com/php/listtour.php?tourid=13 bootleg]] recordings.
* MagnumOpusDissonance: While ''Selling England by the Pound'' is the album you're most likely to hear cited as Genesis' best (for example, it's their best-rated album on Prog Archives), some of the band members themselves have reservations with it. They don't think it's a ''bad'' album, but they think it could have been better (it is, however, Hackett's favourite album). Some of the band members also feel that ''Music/TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway'', another candidate you're likely to hear cited as their best recording, gets progressively weaker towards the end.
* OldShame: Phil Collins has mentioned in internet postings not to be a fan of 'Match of the Day', from the ''Spot the Pigeon'' EP, which is probably why that track was left off of 2000's ''Genesis Archives #2'' boxset, where 'Pigeons' and 'Inside and Out' were included. However, all three songs are included in the ''Genesis 19761982'' boxset and the EP was repressed on vinyl in 2012, making the song easily available again.
** He hasn't spoken fondly of the music video for "A Trick of the Tail", either, mentioning in a 1994 Creator/{{VH1}} interview that he considers it one of the most embarrassing videos of his career.
* OneOfUs: Phil Collins is a self-confessed video game fan and even [[PromotedFanboy played himself]] in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCityStories'', Tony Banks is a fan of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', and Mike Rutherford referenced ''Series/DoctorWho'' in ''[[TheDocumentary Come Rain or Shine]]''.
** Phil's [[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2297368/filmoseries#tt0056751 mother worked on]] ''Series/DoctorWho''.
** Which leads to a very interesting possibility of what "Me and Sarah Jane" is about...
** Mike Rutherford [[WordOfGod has admitted]] to having been influenced by science fiction stories like [[Creator/ArthurCClarke Arthur C. Clarke's]] ''Literature/ChildhoodsEnd'' and works by Creator/JRRTolkien in TheSeventies, which came through in a lot of the early Genesis songs like "Watcher of the Skies".
* TheOtherMarty: Between Phillips' departure and Hackett's arrival, the band had another guitarist named Mick Barnard. Since he never performed on any official albums, and was only in the band for a few months, he is largely forgotten by most fans. An appearance on British TV in November 1970 includes Barnard in the band, but the recording of the broadcast has since been lost.
* ThePeteBest: Phil Collins didn't join the band until Genesis' third album, ''Nursery Cryme''. Chris Stewart, John Silver, and John Mayhew (who appears in the 2014 ''Together And Apart'' documentary in footage recorded before his death in 2009) preceded him.
** Anthony Phillips left after the second album, ''Trespass''. While his contributions seem marginalized now, Tony Banks remarks in ''Together And Apart'' that his departure was not taken lightly, and he was concerned for the future of the band. While not credited, the song "The Musical Box" that appears on ''Nursery Cryme'' was based on a piece Phillips had composed for the band.
** While Steve Hackett's leaving was amicable (both Collins and Rutherford contributed to his first solo album, ''Voyage of the Acolyte'', released before he left the band) the 2014 documentary ''Together and Apart'' (broadcast as ''Sum of the Parts'' in the US), a film supposedly meant to touch on both the band's long life and the noteworthy solo careers of all the band members, gives Hackett's solo career, which spans over ''twenty'' records, the barest of mentions. Hackett went on social media and to [[http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/genesis-guitarist-steve-hackett-blasts-biased-documentary-20141005 Rolling Stone]] to voice his displeasure.
*** What makes the documentary even more tone-deaf is that Hackett at the time of the documentary's broadcast was currently in the middle of a nearly ''two-year'' tour behind his ''Genesis Revisited II'' record, that continued into early 2015, playing many classic Genesis songs which hadn't been performed live for decades. (For the tour for his 2015 solo record, ''Wolflight'', each show's second set was comprised of nearly all Genesis songs, going as far back as ''Nursery Cryme''.)
** Ray Wilson also to an extent, as his career with Genesis was killed by fan indifference before it could begin. However at the same time, [[TookTheBadFilmSeriously he has seemed to parlay that brief time into a substantial career]], still performing songs from ''Calling All Stations'' live and appearing as a guest singer at Steve Hackett's 2013 ''Genesis Revisited II'' show at the Royal Albert Hall.
* ReferencedBy: In ''Webcomic/KnightsOfBuenaVista'', Adriana is singing one of the band's songs, and Ilene jokes that they are known as "[[UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis Mega Drive]]" in the rest of the world.
* SerendipityWritesThePlot: Many of their trademark techniques and tones were developed over a brief period of time between Anthony Phillips' split from the group and the hiring of Steve Hackett to replace him, as they had not yet found a guitarist and were rehearsing as a four-piece, with Rutherford and/or Banks using different methods of making up for the lack of guitar (bass pedals, double-neck guitar, distorted electric piano).
** Their method of writing in the studio via jam sessions, improvisations and group-composing in TheEighties was partly a way of keeping the dwindling band united on a project, particularly as pre-written songs were being used on solo albums. They also felt that the best tracks on ''...And Then There Were Three...'' and ''Duke'' were group-written, and wanted to continue in that vein and justify their reasons for continuing as a band.
** Gabriel's penchant for telling weird stories between songs arose as a way to keep audiences engaged during concerts, as the band would often take a long time to re-tune their instruments. Also, his usage of masks and costumes came about as a requirement for telling his stories in addition to overcoming his own stage fright.
* ShortLivedBigImpact: Being one of the most influential of ProgressiveRock, the classic lineup of Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, and Mike Rutherford surprisingly lasted 4 years.
* ThrowItIn:
** In 1980, upon recording "Intruder", their producer Hugh Padgham, testing out his new recording console, accidentally recorded Phil's drums and it picked out [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxz6jShW-3E a thick, punchy reverb that disappeared in an instant]]. That is how the "gated reverb", the sound of TheEighties, was born.
** The 2007 reunion tour was the result of a collective shrug and the band asking each other "Why the hell not?" Almost the entirety of Genesis's lineup had gotten together for an event celebrating the release of a boxset of the band's work and members began leaving one by one until it was just Phil Collins, Mike Rutherford, and Tony Banks sitting around and chatting. The three looked at each other and realized that they represented the longest-serving incarnation of the band and decided to hit the road together.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: When the band was forming ideas for what would become 1974's ''Music/TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway'', Mike Rutherford suggested composing a song cycle loosely based on Antoine de Saint-Exupéry's novella ''The Little Prince''. Gabriel, however, had a singular vision for the record and ultimately wrote the lyrics of ''The Lamb'' on his own, with a [[DarkerAndEdgier edgier]] tone, and with an American protagonist. Eventually, Rutherford's idea would inspire songs on 1978's ''...And Then There Were Three...'' and most prominently in the song cycle that book-ends (mostly; "Turn It On Again" is also part of the suite) 1980's ''Duke'' (the album's art seems also evocative of the book).
** Attempts were made to make a movie out of ''The Lamb'' since the late 1970s, but nothing came to fruition.
** Casual considerations to replace Steve Hackett as guitarist in 1978 were rumored to include Music/JeffBeck, [[Music/KingCrimson Robert Fripp]], and Music/SteelyDan veteran Elliott Randall. It was later agreed to keep it a three-piece in the studio.
** The ''Little Prince''-inspired tracks on ''Duke'' were meant to be a "Music/SuppersReady"-like suite taking up one side, yet in the end the band decided to steer clear of long pieces, as ProgressiveRock had become a withering genre in the early 80's. They also didn't want the composition compared to "Supper's Ready" and felt leaving the tracks together would have given the record a noticeably weaker B-side; however, they ''did'' perform the "suite" live in its original format and order during the subsequent tour for the album, documented on several bootlegs. Concidentally, Rutherford used another novel, ''Smallcreep's Day'', as the basis for his first solo record, which was released in 1980, the same year as ''Duke''.
** 1982's ''Abacab'' was originally planned as a double-album. Most of the tracks ultimately removed (most notably the instrumentals "Naminanu" & "Submarine") appeared as B-sides, and the song originally meant as the album's closer, "Paperlate", eventually appeared on ''3x3'' and ''Three Sides Live''.
** According to an interview in ''Guitar World'', when David Lee Roth left Music/VanHalen in 1986, Eddie Van Halen began writing many of the songs that would ultimately appear on ''5150'' with the idea of using different vocalists on each track. He had reached out to both Rutherford and Collins to work on the record, and wrote the song "Right Now" with the late Joe Cocker in mind.
** Celebrated indie songwriter/musician Kevin Gilbert, who had much respect and love for the "classic" Genesis ([[MomentOfAwesome he performed the entire ''Lamb Lies Down'' album live on stage]] with his band Giraffe in 1994), was invited to audition to replace Phil Collins in 1996. Unfortunately, Gilbert died of an [[http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/More-Than-The-Piano-Player-Dumped-by-Sheryl-2966770.php accidental suicide]] before his management received the invitation. Considering Gilbert's prog-rock credibility and rising career as a songwriter at the time, there's no telling what his talent could've done to help invigorate the band.
** Among the people also being considered to replace Phil Collins as lead singer was [[Music/{{Marillion}} Fish]], who had previously done vocals for some of Tony Banks' solo material. "Generillion" might very well have been really awesome, especially since Fish's vocals have been compared to Gabriel's to begin with.
** Their 2007 ''Turn It On Again'' tour started as an attempt to reunite Banks, Collins, Rutherford, Gabriel and Hackett to perform ''Music/TheLambLiesDownOnBroadway''; when Gabriel decided against it, the post-Hackett five-piece touring band reunited instead.
** "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight", "The Cinema Show", and "Aisle of Plenty" were originally composed as a single twenty-minute suite, but as with the Saint-Exupéry-inspired ''Duke'' suite above, the band decided they didn't want it compared to "Supper's Ready" (to which they felt it would be too similar) and split it up to bookend the album. This is why the coda to "Dancing" just seems to build up tension without any real release: it's intended to lead into the intro of "The Cinema Show". In any case, if they'd left them together we'd be mentioning them in the same breath as "Supper's Ready" now, so it's a shame they were split up.
** Speaking of "Supper's Ready", the "Willow Farm" section was originally conceived as a separate song. The band later decided to include it in the suite, with Banks mentioning that it would prevent "Supper's Ready" from being too similar to their earlier song "Stagnation".
** The liner notes for the Definitive Edition Remaster of ''Nursery Cryme'' list the lyrics for the songs in an alternate order from the album's running order.
### The Musical Box
### Harold the Barrel
### Seven Stones
### For Absent Friends
### The Fountain of Salmacis
### The Return of the Giant Hogweed
### Harlequin
::: When listened to in sequence, this provides an interesting alternate running order for the album that some listeners may end up preferring to the official one. For one thing, it ends less abruptly.
** The non-''Little Prince'' tracks on ''Duke'' were leftovers from the solo albums the members had just finished recording, as those albums had drained them all creatively. One of the songs Phil offered was "In the Air Tonight," about which Tony has said that he regrets turning it down.