* It can be hard, a lot of the time, to figure out just where ''SurvivalOfTheFittest'' is on the overall scale, but it appears to be more towards the cynical side due to the {{downer|Ending}} nature of the endings for the most part and the fact that fate itself seems to crack down on optimistic characters. Hero types usually get themselves killed, and even if they don't die right away they usually see all their friends die first. All escape attempts are brutally crushed, and even [[spoiler:hacking the system and putting in a powerful computer virus that basically destroys all SOTF systems from the inside]] doesn't work until it's too late for anything to be done. By v2, all damage has been fixed, and the systems have been changed so they're literally impenetrable.
** In a strange bout of irony, the same virus comes back to bite the terrorists in the arse in V3 purely by accident, even worse than before.
* As quoted above, ''WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog'' shows us why, exactly, it's called the '''{{Sliding|ScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism}}''' [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Scale of Idealism Vs. Cynicism]] by going back and forth between the two with reckless abandon. The most pronounced example may be the song [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOKm7mxGV6w "My Eyes" (also known as "On The Rise")]], which is practically a duet between idealism and cynicism. (And yes, that is [[Series/HowIMetYourMother Neil Patrick Harris]] and [[TheGuild Felicia Day]] with [[Series/{{Firefly}} Nathan Fillion]] sitting in the background.)
* The Wiki/SCPFoundation sits so far on the cynical side that it probably shares a spot with ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''.
** It's important to note the only rule of canon is there is no canon, meaning it can be idealistic or cynical as you want it to be.
* UrbanFantasy series ''BrokenSaints'' eventually ends up on the Idealistic side, but it [[EarnYourHappyEnding covers a lot of ground getting there]].
* ''Encyclopedia Dramatica'' is what happens when the cynical side of the internet's {{troll}} population creates a wiki.
* ''SailorNothing'' occupies an odd place -- it's ''far'' grimmer than its inspiration ''Franchise/SailorMoon'', but ultimately has a core of idealism. ThePowerOfFriendship plays an important role in keeping the heroine together, and [[spoiler:the key to defeating the BigBad ultimately turns out to be ''forgiveness'']].
* ''ChaosFighters'' is extremely idealistic that everyone fighting at the good side is [[InvincibleHero invincible heroes]], having love interests and their mission is guaranteed a success no matter how hard it is. They can even [[spoiler:destroy armies of demons or bandits by themselves]].
* ''ThereWillBeBrawl'' takes the normally-idealistic universe of Nintendo franchises and [[DarkerAndEdgier slams it headlong into the cynical side.]] [[SerialEscalation And then keeps going.]] So cynical that [[ChildrenAreInnocent the most idealistic character]] [[spoiler:gets blown up]], for heavens sake!
* Machinima/RedVsBlue has a tendency to be rather cynical, considering how virtually everyone in Blood Gulch dislikes one another.
** ''Revelation'' ends on a surprisingly idealistic note. [[spoiler:Sarge has finally learned to respect the Blues, and organizes them and the Reds into a FiveManBand to save Tex and Church and take down the Meta. Washington is saved by the Blues, and is recruited into their ranks. Church willingly pursues Tex inside the Epsilon unit, but being trapped there himself, he decides to relive Alpha's memories of Blood Gulch, deeming them pleasing memories.]]
** ''Season 9'', on the other hand, is much more cynical than ''Revelation''. [[spoiler:In the past timeline, virtually every Freelancer is out for themselves, as well as a poor team player in general. The UNSC-Insurrection war is full of GreyAndGrayMorality, in that the Insurrection has legitimate beefs with the UNSC, and the Freelancers show almost no regard for civilian life. York somberly lampshades this by saying ("We're the good guys... right?") In the present timeline, Epsilon, actually ''experiencing'' Alpha's memories rather than simply remembering them, begins to develop his template's anger issues. When the Epsilon unit is about to fail, he realizes that the best way to be at peace is to let go of Tex's memory - and since this Tex ''is'' a memory, it amounts to killing her. And to top off the cake? The unit wasn't failing; the real Reds and Blues were breaking into the unit to rescue Epsilon, so he basically killed Tex for nothing!]]
* ''SonicForHire'' tends heavily at the cynical end of the scale.
* HomestarRunner is set in a largely optimistic setting with a select few deeply cynical elements and characters. Strong Bad and The Cheat are always committing petty crimes, Bubs always swindles his customers, Coach Z has a thinly-veiled disturbing background, and the King of Town is largely friendless. Oh, and everybody dies in Teen Girl Squad.
* The ''WebOriginal/YouCouldMakeALife'' universe has several different romance stories that fall all over the idealism/cynicism scale: [[HappilyMarried Dan and Marc]]'s and [[TheyDo Andy and Derek]]'s stories fall firmly on the left end of the scale, [[DestructiveRomance Luke and Nikita]]'s story falls ''heavily'' on the far right end of the scale, and the other stories all fall somewhere closer to the center with Mike and Liam's and David and Jake's [[OppositesAttract stories]] in particular having an [[TheCynic incurable pessimist]] as one half of the couple and an [[WideEyedIdealist equally incurable optimist]] as the other half.
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