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// NickBensema : Incidentally, can anyone point out a popular television show where a prophecy ''didn't'' come true?

// Well, the "Shanshu" prophecy on ''{{Angel}}'' has not reached veracity, yet. However, the target keeps shifting and time is running short, so the issue may be left unresolved. -- WeremonkeyGus

//''{{Alias}}'''s prophecy's veracity is a bit up for grabs, but that might be just because they got bored of Rambaldi and his yammering -- CapoeiraGirl

//I'm thinking there might have been some in the first season of BabylonFive; several of the long-term plotlines had to be retooled when Sinclair was replaced by Sheridan, which was not part of JMS's original MythArc. I'll try and check some of these when I have more time. -- DevilsAdvocate

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LooneyToons: Another note, this time for folks adding to this entry. "Prophecy" is the prediction, a noun; "prophesy" is the verb, to make a prophecy.

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{{Ungvichian}}: Just watched about 30 min. of "Twelve Monkeys" last night, and I question the validity of this (then again, people who've seen the whole film are more qualified than me to do this). Let's look at the definition...

"A prophecy (by extension, something that is known to have happened in the past) comes true despite all attempts to prevent it (and often because of those attempts)."

Let's look at the parts one by one... (warning, there be spoilage ahead!)

* "A prophecy (by extension, something that is known to have happened in the past)": The release of a virus and the decimation of mankind, oh yeah.
* "comes true": Although the ending doesn't make it clear (Terry Gilliam flicks never are clear), the guy carrying the virus as biological samples is shown boarding a plane, presumably to release it and decimate mankind.
* "despite all attempts to prevent it (and often because of those attempts)": Now here's the prob. Crazy Bruce keeps going on and on about how the only thing he can do here is to collect data on how to cure the virus in the future (as opposed to preventing the virus from being released to begin with). Much later, in the final 15 minutes (I'd seen it on a different day BTW), by which point crazy Bruce now looks like a hippie (incidentally, Brad Pitt's initial behavior reminded me a lot of Shane Powers, ''Survivor'' contestant), he makes what I guess is a last-ditch attempt (and I guess his only attempt) to prevent it, and gets shot presumably dead. Usually, don't YCFF plots tend to center around the attempts to prevent it? Although in a nice twist, it brings closure to crazy Bruce's recurring dream of seeing a guy getting shot dead while a kid.
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{{Ununnilium}}: Took out:

Used often with TimeTravel, or the antithesis of it.

...because both the first line and the "One technical term..." line imply it.

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{{Solandra}}: Removed the ''{{Noir}}'' mention due to lack of detail: if anyone can flesh it out, it can go on the ScrewDestiny entry because ScrewDestiny is basically the subversion of this trope.
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TimStilson: I've been trying to decide if the plot of ''To Say Nothing of the Dog'' by Connie Willis is an example of You Can't Fight Fate, or something different. It's been a while since I read it, but my memory is that although through much of the later part of the story it appears that hero might have accidentally prevented an event (which is thought to have initiated the whole reason he was sent back in the first place), it ends up that events worked out to have the same result anyway. In this case, the time traveler accidentally changes something (as opposed to intending to change something) and fears that his present will be affected, but it turns out that it ends up unchanged anyways. Is there a separate name for this variant of history-doesn't-change time-travel?
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gilroy0: I question whether it's fair to say the ''Terminator'' movies contradict their own message ("The future isn't set in stone.") The actual prophecy (or remembered fact) ''does'' change: the date of Judgment Day. The future unfolds in a different way. Maybe Judgment Day is a logical necessity of the discovery of AI, not a particular sequence of events. If you adhere to the idea of time like a stream, it's like putting a branch in the stream: the water is diverted but it continues on, and sometime "behind" the branch might still get wet.
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{{Zephid}}: Changed the QuotesWiki entry to go to the ptitled entry and CutListed the old one. Also, the Quotes entry could use some cleaning up. Half the quotes have no attribution and are [[foldercontrol]]

[[folder: written like this ]]
for some reason.
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Would it be all right to remove the "Minority Report" version of this? Minority report is the direct opposite of this trope. This is not a spoiler or wrong in any sense; the entire premise starts with the notion that a foretold crime can be stopped if enough is known in advance.