{{Ununnilium}}: Is there a trope for a ShoutOut that parodies the thing it's shouting out to? I was looking for one with the Stargate entry, but couldn't find anything appropriate.
{{Gus}}: Not quite an {{homage}}, due to the mocking tone? Sounds like it might be a modifier to {{homage}}, something like TwistedHomage -- which hasn't been written, yet. However, Homage covers alot of it.
{{Tabby}}: Wouldn't that just be a spoof? Seems like we've got it mentioned in a lot of entries, but without an entry of its own.
{{Ununnilium}}: I was thinking that, actually. There's a trope for a full-out parody episode, TheParody, but not a wider thing for parodies and satire in general.
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{{Ununnilium}}: Gets Tripod direct-link image. Why not just upload it with the Image Uploader?
{{LTR}} - Actualy, maybe I should just provide a link to the page that one came from? Because I just spent the last 15 minutes browsing it, and there are ''tons'' more examples.
FastEddie: The image means absolutely nothing to someone who doesn't follow anime. Maybe it could be used down in the examples, near whatever it illustrates. //later: I'll move the image here, for storage.
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{{Citizen}}: I thought the point was clear enough. =/ Haruhi (SuzumiyaHaruhiNoYuutsu) is holding up magazines featuring two other series ({{Shuffle}}! and something else)... orz
{{Ununnilium}}: I got the idea, but IMHO, it didn't demonstrate it clearly enough.
{{Seth}}: I got it, maybe it should be explained in the caption box underneath. I mean Shout Out's always need to be explained since they are always subtle so are we ever gonna find a better picture?
{{Citizen}}: There's always [[http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/448/zomggendoci3.jpg this exact replica of Gendo]] from HayateTheCombatButler... Though my original pic works better, as it has the contrasting anime all in one pic. Pic reinstated with Seth's approval. :3 By the way, anyone happen to know what's being featured on the right magazine?
{{Citizen}}: Found out what the two magazines were, the covers of two specific uses of whatever, but perhaps it's simpler to just replace it with something from ''HayateTheCombatButler''.
MisterSix: What's with the new picture? As someone who hasn't seen either show, I don't get why that's a shout-out. The previous pic, with the girl holding up two magazines, was far better. At least, it made sense to a non-anime fan like me.
{{Seth}}: Seconded, the first image worked much better.
{{anonymous}}: when was the aledged Invade Zim reference in Avatar?
{{Lale}}: Never watched that show, but according to tv.com, the guy who sat next to them on the train after Sokka says, "[[GenreSavvy Weird stuff happens to us]]."
Neophos: I like that the text says "subtle", yet the picture example is one of the least subtle shout outs ever.
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{{Cassius335}}: I seem to have gotten into a slow edit war with {{Trogga}} over the pic. Am I the only one here who thinks a pic of an Anime Shout Out belongs on the Shout Out Anime page?
Trogga: Don't we need one for the main page?
{{Cassius335}}: Maybe, maybe not. ''But it doesn't have to be that one''.
Trogga: What do have against that one?
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{{Citizen}}: Image changed a cropped/shrunk version of [[http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9360/bizarrokurokopresidentosq5.jpg A Certain Lesbian Schoolgirl]], for some variety.
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{{Citizen}}: "Image made no sense", FastEddie? Isn't that rather unfair? You've got the American flag, the "Yes we can" CatchPhrase, and Obama in the caption, so what's not to get? If you'd said to move it to the anime/manga subpage, fine, but...
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{{Ununnilium}}: The ''Macbeth'' one seems more like a MythologyGag.
{{Fly}}: Yeah, I suppose it is. Shifting it there.
On another note, I don't think the ''Freelancer'' example is legit. It's entirely possible it was a reference to the Norns in Viking mythology.
wia: Found the entry on the looking glass games listed twice: removed the second.
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Nezumi: Under Tabletop [=RPGs=] "and the entire Necron race is one big Shout Out to the Terminator franchise." is, to my understanding... really pushing it. I'm not terribly familiar with Terminator, and most of my Warhammer 40k knowledge comes from related works, talking to people who play it, and research... but from everything I know, that's pushing it. A lot. They're both skeletal and murderous, but... Necrons are actually closer to cyborgs than robots, being a converted form of the Necrontyr race. Also, Terminators are known for disguising themselves as humans as needed. The closest I know of Necrons pulling that trick are Flayed Ones, which wear decaying skins for the unnerving effect it has on the living. And there's more differences between their origins than you can shake a giant stick at.
wia: Just figured I'd point out that Terminators were also cyborgs. I think the shout-out may be a slight visual one, but I'd ask someone who knew more about Necrons. I was an Ultramarine player myself...
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LooneyToons: Jisu, it's face''fault'', not face''vault''. The latter gives the impression of a very strange Olympic event...
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ILP: I have excised the Freelancer reference. I refuse to believe that American video game programmers are dropping in arbitrary references to some Japanese manga/anime series that bears no relation to the actual game. If it is true, please provide some kind of decent source to back up such a claim. It's like saying that EVE Online contains a ShoutOut to OhMyGoddess since it has a ship class called Sleipnir.
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LooneyToons: Deleted this whole section:
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* The New Testament of TheBible has a lot of [[ShoutOut shout outs]] to the Torah or Old Testament, seeing as how Jesus is supposed to be TheMessiah prophesized any number of times in the Old Testament.
** I'd call those references, not ShoutOuts. It doesn't count as a ShoutOut if you just quote a line.
because even though the followup is natter, it makes a point. ShoutOuts are things thrown in to give a tip of the hat to something the creator thinks is cool or influential. New Testament references to the Old Testament are something else entirely, more like callbacks or citations.
BigT: I'd definitely call it a CallBack, since the quotes are important to the plot.
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* ''Persona3'' features a set of these built into the Hermit Social Link, an online game called "Innocent Sin Online" The character you meet inside calls herself Maya, suggests the name Tatsuya for your character, and asks if you are "experiencing a bit of Deja Vu." All of these are references to not one, but quite possibly three games, including both Persona 2 games (Innocent Sin is the first Persona 2 game, and in the second one, Eternal Punishment, Maya refers to Tatsuya as "Deja Vu Boy")
Nezumi: Cut. As they're part of the same series, but different continuities, this falls under MythologyGag, where this is covered in more depth already.
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{{Alucard}}: Does anyone else think this page is too long? Should it be split into several example pages?
K.o.R: Agreement here. ''Far'' too long. (later: Done. Though the index is being a bit strange (it links to Shakespeare after ShoutOutVideoGames . . .))
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{{OffSide7}} Out of curiosity (also, this came up on a Just Bugs Me page)- how does one decide whether something is a shout-out or a rip off? The example in the debate was [[http://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2007-12-21]]- some people are claiming it's a shout out to Scrubs, others, a rip off of Scrubs. (There's a scene where Turk tells Carla he loves her with similar words.)
DrDedman: Mostly YourMilageMayVary. My take.
A non-plot bearing detail that references another work is a ShoutOut.
If the detail is used to "own up to" other borrowings, that's PinkBunnySlippers.
If you took the plot outlines that's a WholePlotReference (with or without the "slippers).
If you grab something and run with it down a different path, then it's just "inspiration". It's still considered polite to "own up" to borrowing. (For example, the Necrons' regeneration rule is called "We'll be back!")
If you just borrow a character, that's an {{Expy}}. Using nothing but expies is usually frowned upon.
{{OffSide7}}: When someone says Your Milage May Vary, it makes me think that there's no right answer, ever. But I think it actually does depend on the author's intent.
Also, it seems like there's a lot of different circumstances, so let's narrow it down to the one in question- it was a single quote, with no other reference to the original context, used in a serious scene, and not "run down a different path." No mention of it (or the original source) was given anywhere on the site by the author.
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SomeSortOfTroper: Didn't this page use to, and shouldn't it now, have a redirect for {{Allusion}}? May I be so bold as to make one?