{{Ununnilium}}: Coal, not mentioned anymore? There's not been an appearance of Santa I've seen *without* bringing up the prospect of coal. Black Peter, okay, the only time you ever hear about him (at least in America) is programs on the history of Christmas.

{{RedBeardSean}}: I think the reasoning behind coal was something like, "it's a gift, as it will help heat the house, but the fun factor is zero. Be good."

BTTheP: I always heard that Santa's monstrous sidekick distributed switches to the parents of the bad kids, at least in some of the old Germanic stuff.

{{Caswin}}: What was wrong with the ''Polar Express'' Santa?

MorganWick: My guess (before actually reading the section in question): the UncannyValley.

Wow. This site is ''not'' for kids if the idea of Santa being real is pretty much shot all to hell in the first paragraph of the article. I know it fits in with our style and I'm not asking for any changes, I'm just... wow. On behalf of TV Tropes Wiki, I sincerely apologize (which I ''never'' do) to any parents whose kids' childhoods were forever ruined by this page.

AceOfScarabs: NeilGaiman did a ''really'' good short story about Santa being a man cursed with immortality and forced to send gifts to the children of the world in frozen timelessness, sobbing as he went about it.