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-> ''"You're so nice. You're not Good, you're not Bad, you're just Nice.''\\
''I'm not Good. I'm not Nice. I'm just Right. I'm the Witch!"''
--> -- '''The Witch''', ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'', "The Last Midnight"

He's not good. He's not nice. He's a {{jerkass}}. What he just said is ''not'' what the main characters wanted to hear but ''[[DontShootTheMessage he's right]]''.

The jerkass in question can be anything from your ISO Standard {{Jerkass}} or AntiHero all the way up to any flavor of {{Villain}} (though the chance is inversely proportional to the distance they go down the "slippery slope"). Whoever he or she is, they're seriously deficient in the morals department, at least from the point of view of the perspective characters. Then they have a moment where they say something undeniably true - the good guys don't have to ''like'' what he's saying, but they can't deny he's right without deluding themselves. Perhaps even the protagonist is caught on a moral stumbling block, and the antagonist is all too glad to point out their hypocrisy. After all, [[AtLeastIAdmitIt at least the antagonist is honest about it]].

The ''other'' main reason a character is likely to say "[[ICantBelieveImSayingThis I can't believe I'm saying this]], but I agree with ''him''."

It's worth noting that the AlphaBitch and the JerkJock, two of the main distributors of this trope, have a tendency toward bluntness. While our hero's friends may be hesitant to insult him, these characters don't really care what he thinks and are willing to say exactly what he's doing wrong, without sugarcoating their "WhatTheHellHero".

A rare outcome of the claim that "We are NotSoDifferent". A response of "ShutUpHannibal" would be out of place, and is likely to get shot down if it appears but a KirkSummation could work. See also NotHimself and WhatTheHellHero for situations likely to inspire this. See DontShootTheMessage for what happens when this occurs in RealLife. SisterTrope to DumbassHasAPoint, TheExtremistWasRight, VillainHasAPoint and WisdomFromTheGutter.

Contrast StrawmanHasAPoint, when a character who is often unpleasant makes a point that readers are meant to see as wrong and characters dismiss, but which is supported at least in part by evidence. Cases typically involve the listener conceding the point or a trustworthy source agreeing with the jerkass.

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[[folder:Anime and Manga]]
* ''Anime/DragonBallZ''
** Although Vegeta was too harsh with Gohan about him getting weaker in the Buu saga and how his fight with Dabura was a "disgrace," he made a good point.
** In the Saiyan Saga, Yajirobe invokes this after the fight against Vegeta, calling out Chi-Chi for focusing entirely on Gohan, who was merely unconscious, while ignoring Goku, who didn't have a single unbroken bone in his body.
* In ''Anime/ZatchBell'' Brago has just burned the book of a mamodo Zatch befriended. Zatch, angry asks what right Brago had to do that. Brago then proceeds to remind Zatch that the very battle Zatch too is part of requires the destruction of mamodo books to decide a victor. Brago may be a jackass at this point of the series rather than short tempered and violent, but he was definitely within his rights as a contestant.
* ''Manhwa/HesDedicatedToRoses:'' The leader of the GirlPosse give I-Da one of these after breaking her glasses. Subverted in that that wasn't what she had intended.
* ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'': The resident JerkAss {{Butt Monkey}}s Saionji and Nanami start making good points and recognising how they all are being manipulated towards the end of the series, but by then, each are teetering on the brink of insanity, so no-one listens to them.
* ''Anime/WeissKreuz'': Reiji Takatori is the BigBad of the TV series, and antagonizes Weiss and their boss Persia [[spoiler: aka his brother Shuiichi]]. However, in a certain confrontation, he brings up a pretty valid point in regards to their subordinates (which in Reiji's case, are his ''own sons'' [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Hirofumi]] and {{Ma|dScientist}}safumi), summed up as this: [[spoiler: "You tell ME I use my sons to my advantage?! Look at the way you treat your four subordinates, you hypocrite! Specially the little guy whom you thought he was my kid... and who happens to be YOUR illegitimate son!"]] And then [[spoiler: he kills Persia.]]
* In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', Orochimaru was the one who gave Tsunade the idea of starting a unit of medical ninjas to minimize battlefield casualties, though that was way before he turned to full-blown villainy. He was a recognized hero of Konoha, pegged to be the next Hokage and genuinely her friend at the time. Though he never ''was'' nice, even then, so the trope still applies.
** Sasuke gets this from time to time in Part 1. When Sakura complains about Naruto and says that he is a BrattyHalfPint because he has no parents (which definitely strikes a nerve for Sasuke), Sasuke tells Sakura that she has no idea what Naruto went through, and after he leaves, she decides to start being nicer to Naruto. Shortly before the Chunin Exam, he tells her that she's as annoying as Naruto is and in terms of skill, even weaker than he is. During the Forest of Death, when Naruto and Sasuke are incapacitated, Sakura realizes that despite thinking herself superior to Naruto, she can't do anything when it counts, and goes through CharacterDevelopment as a result.
** Sakura got to be this in the Forest of Death as well, calling Sasuke out for always having such a superior attitude while talking to Naruto, and yet now was frozen in fear while Naruto fought for their lives.
** The Fourth Raikage is often depicted as arrogant, stubborn and [[MoralMyopia somewhat hypocritical]]. When Naruto's pleas for him not to kill Sasuke are dismissed as weakness, Naruto agrees to the extent that he has to either save or kill Sasuke himself.
** Played with in the case of the [[EldritchAbomination Nine-Tailed Demon Fox]], when Naruto heads out into the Fourth Ninja World War. In a conversation in his subconscious, Naruto declares that he will end the war himself, and won't let anyone down, The Nine-Tails points out that hatred and grudges have shaped the way of the world for as long as there has been shinobi, and the war is just another example of that hatred being brought to the surface, asking him how he expects to overcome it, if he's expected to ''use'' it. He then gets specific and mentions Naruto's failure to [[HeelFaceTurn turn]] Sasuke, and noted that he has carried that hatred even as far back as their first meeting as children. While Naruto [[HeroicVow makes it clear what he will deal with Sasuke, and end the war]], he has met a number of foes have largely been [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Zetsu copies]], and [[ArmyOfTheAges zombies of legendary ninja]] [[ICannotSelfTerminate who want to rest in peace]], before another example of this trope, Itachi, points out [[ChronicHeroSyndrome that taking it all on yourself]] can make you arrogant [[NotSoDifferent and no better]] than [[spoiler:Tobi]]. So, in one sense, Nine-Tails was onto something...
** Another example with the Nine-Tails. [[spoiler: When the [[BackFromTheDead resurrected]] Minato blames himself for all of the damage Tobi/Obito has caused because he never realized Tobi's true identity, Kurama is quick to point out that Minato had no way of knowing that Obito was still alive, and even then, it wouldn't have changed a thing; Kurama still had to be stopped, and the Obito Minato knew was long dead by then, so it would have been pointless to try to reason with him.]]
** Also, the Second Hokage, Tobirama, comes off as a bit of an asshole with his [[FantasticRacism opinion]] on the Uchiha. However, given their actions (Uchiha being responsible for a past attack on Konoha, the current war, and most of Akatsuki's actions), he had reasons to be wary. And while definitely an ass about it and obviously acting under the premise of KeepingTheEnemyClose, he never actually caused them any harm. Nor did he have a problem trusting ''individual'' members of the clan who he felt had proved their loyalty.
* ''Manga/MedakaBox'': [[spoiler: Right after being defeated]], Kumagawa makes an point about Medaka's decision [[spoiler: to make Kumagawa her Vice-President]] remarking that she's ignoring Zenkichi's feelings. Personal feelings aside, Kumagawa was nonetheless a dangerous minus who [[spoiler: blinded]] Zenkichi, so distrust of Kumagawa was still partially justified.
** Naze calls out the rest of the student council for their bystander attitude [[spoiler: after Medaka beats Zenkichi into a bloody pulp]].
** Kumagawa does it again in Chapter 174. [[spoiler: While erasing Zenkichi from existence was quite extreme, it manages to force Shiranui to admit her true feelings rather than continuing her JerkassFacade.]]
* ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'': [[BlueAndOrangeMorality Solf J. Kimblee]]. [[SociopathicSoldier Jerkass]] has '''many''' points. Played especially straight in Ch. 60 where he [[BreakingLecture lectures]] Mustang and Hawkeye about the nature of killing, free will, and military duty in the midst of war. Kimblee's words affect them so much, they decide to lose the self-pity, accept responsibility for their acts, and atone by putting into motion a long-term {{plan}} to change the leadership of the country from below.
* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', after Kaku is revealed as a Cipher Pol 9 spy, Zoro asks him if the fact that he is not a real shipwright means that his assessment that the Going Merry [[spoiler:was unable to reach the next island]] was incorrect, but Kaku says that he was telling the truth back then. Later on, when he goes to the place where Franky and Usopp are going to the ship, he chides Usopp for keeping Merry around, before [[KickTheDog dumping it into the stormy ocean]]. Kaku is correct, [[spoiler:and the [[TearJerker Merry falls apart]] after saving the Straw Hats from Enies Lobby.]]
** Hody Jones states the painful and obvious truth when giving Princess Shirahoshi TheReasonYouSuckSpeech. While yes, it was admirable that she kept quiet about [[spoiler: who her mother's killer was]] and wanted to "prevent the cycle of hatred" from continuing, but by not telling anyone said person grew only worse in their murderous, racist ways before they would eventually [[spoiler: initiate a bloody coup d'etat on the kingdom.]]
** In a similar way to Hody, Crocodile tells Luffy that he finds Vivi's idealism impractical, suggesting that the idea of saving everyone is naive. Luffy agrees, but points out that as she's willing to risk her own life to stop his EvilPlan, he'll fight so she doesn't have to.
** Although none of the main characters responded to the "villain" Doflamingo's speech during the war at Marineford, it strikes many audience members as [[TruthinTelevision sad but true]].
-->After all, ''[[WrittenByTheWinners "Pirates are evil!!? The Marines are righteous!!? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history...!!! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values!!! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground!!! Justice will prevail, you say!? But of course it will!!! Whoever wins this war...becomes justice!!!"]]''
* In ''Anime/YuGiOh'', [[IdiotHero Joey Wheeler's]] deck gets stolen by a kid, but quickly gets it back. Later, he faces Weevil Underwood in a duel, but finds that his deck has been sabotaged, putting him at a disadvantage. Joey and his friends realize that Weevil hired the kid to sabotage the deck and angrily condemn Weevil for cheating. Weevil confirms this, but retorts that it is Joey's fault for being so stupid and naive as to not inspect his deck after getting it back.
** Later on in the arc, when Yugi is going to confront Joey/Jounouchi, Kaiba, in the original Japanese, tells Yugi that while he showed him the power of cooperation in the tag duel with the Masks of Light and Darkness, he wonders how much that idea will hold up now that his friend is possessed. In the dub, this is changed to him telling Yugi he won't help him unless he stands to benefit.
** Weevil gets a bigger one later, in the Doma Arc. When Yami tells him he's horrible, Weevil points out that Yami had used the Seal of Orichalcos in order to win despite knowing that he'd be putting his friend in danger, and that Yugi paid the price. Weevil acknowledges that he is indeed an asshole, but points out that at least he didn't use the seal knowing that he could endanger his friends. Even though he tries not to show it, [[BreakThemByTalking Yami is visibly affected]].
** During the Virtual World Arc, [[TheDragon Lector]] of [[FiveBadBand The Big Five]] calls out Kaiba on the way he used and abused both The Big Five, and his own brother, Mokuba, during his [[TheCoup coup]] against his father [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Gozaburo]]. While Lector's a bastard, and in no position to criticize, he's not wrong when he points out how unacceptable Kaiba's behaviour was.
* Oberstein of ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is a magnificent example of this trope. There is practically no one in the show who likes the guy, and yet he always makes arguments that, although devoid of concepts such as honor and often morals, are simply correct and most effective when looked at logically. Even Reinhard states that he has not once liked Oberstein as a person, but followed his advice the most because "that man makes arguments that are so right, they leave no room for debate".
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'':
** In the concept pilot, Orihime's murderous father tells her she shouldn't confess her feelings to Ichigo after her death, because it'll leave him in even more pain.
** At the beginning of the Arrancar Arc, Grimmjow points out it's a mistake to let Ichigo live. He's right. When he tells Ichigo the reason he hasn't left Hueco Mundo, despite saving Orihime, is because Ichigo loves fighting, Ichigo acknowledges there's truth in that. Ichigo's failure to depart as soon as he's secured Orihime results in Orihime getting recaptured and things going very downhill for the gang.
** When Yamamoto claims [[MadScientist Mayuri]] only had to kill 28,000 Rukongai souls to correct the world soul-balance because his division was too incompetent to identify the Quincy threat fast enough to prevent things getting that bad, Mayuri bluntly tells him it's entirely Yamamoto's fault because Mayuri foresaw the Quincy threat as a result of Uryuu's actions during the Soul Society arc. However, Yamamoto dismissed Mayuri's concerns as paranoid which left the Gotei 13 unprepared for future Quincy attacks. [[spoiler: Mayuri also says it's Yamamoto's fault because he had the chance to stop the Quincy King a millennium ago and failed. He's right.]]
* In ''Manga/{{Bakuman}}'', Nanamine, who has a morally dubious plan to rise to the top of Jump, had once sent the main characters as fan mail, but stopped when they started writing Tanto, saying they weren't suited to gag manga. This is a bit of an odd case, in that it takes a while for Nanamine to be revealed as a JerkAss, and this opinion was shared by the majority of the characters. He also says that [[NotSoDifferent like him]], the main characters took risks and defied their editors at times to get what they wanted.
* In the finale of ''Manga/DeathNote'', [[spoiler: Near, who, like L, largely only takes on cases that interests him rather than a out of a sense of justice, but hates Kira]] responds to [[spoiler: Light Yagami]]'s MotiveRant by [[spoiler: telling him that "you're nothing more than a crazy serial killer." No one in the room besides Light, even those who don't like Near, contest that assertion, and Ide says that while he doesn't like Near, if Near hadn't won, Ide and the rest of the task force would be dead.]]
* In ''Manga/{{Area 88}}'', [[TheSociopath Kanzaki]] of all people warns Ryoko that her fixation on Shin is pathological. He tells Ryoko that her obsession with an absentee Shin is reminiscent of his mother's obsession with his estranged father, which ended with his mother's suicide. [[spoiler: Kanzaki's observation was validated in later manga issues that did not make it stateside. Ryoko unsuccessfully attempted suicide after Shin broke her heart over the phone.]]
--> '''Ryoko''': I feel bad about saying this, but I think your mother must have been a very weak person. To end up like that, I mean. Even if I were in her situation and lost my man. As long as I had the memory of the love I shared, I'm sure I would be able to handle it. And I would never involve a small child in my problems.
--> '''Kanzaki''': It's easy to have such an idealistic attitude. But, would your attitude hold up if you were really faced with the same kind of situation? ... Shin has been missing a long time. And you don't know whether he's alive or dead. Yet, you still love him. In retrospect, is your situation any different?
** Some also say that Ryoko [[SpeakIllOfTheDead speaking so harshly about the dead]] is in and of itself a JerkAss move. But can any parent who commits suicide and leaves a child behind truly be considered a responsible individual?
* Knuckles of ''Anime/SonicX'' is rather aloof and arrogant, and makes ''severe'' tactical mistakes like falling for Eggman's fake {{Heel Face Turn}}s. However some of his resentment towards Sonic's reckless behaviour does make sense (he ''did'' get everyone stuck on Earth by acting showy in a fight with Eggman's machinery) and he often points out the stupidity of some of the team's plans. It doesn't help the team tend to just make him their punching bag as a response.
* In ''Manga/MuhyoAndRoji'', while Roji has been given leave from his position as Muhyo's assistant to learn an important lesson about what it is he needs to do. The one who convinces him that rather than worry about his own capabilities, which would leave him useless to Muhyo, he should support Muhyo, is [[FatBastard Ebisu]], [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Goryo's]] [[JerkAss unpleasant]] and [[MyMasterRightOrWrong amoral]] ([[JerkassWoobie but also at times sympathetic]]) sidekick, who does so after telling him his criminal past and loyalty to the Goryo group for taking him in, which [[spoiler:allowed him to ultimately accept being fired for his mistake]].
** Goryo himself later reveals that Ivy's parents were not innocent victims, but rejected an offer of lenience and killed magical law officers while resisting arrest. Surprisingly enough, though, at the end of his fight with Ivy, he has a few chances to PetTheDog.
** [[GoodIsNotNice While he's typically the hero]], Muhyo sends the spirit of Fujiwara to the equivalent of purgatory, saying that his loss against a rain dog was proof of "ineptitude or negligence, neither of which earns (Muhyo's) sympathy". Roji, despite being typically idealistic and kind-hearted, doesn't question this but does question why Muhyo is performing so many sentencings and using up his tempering even before facing [[ArcVillain Sophie]].
* Done with Tomoe frequently from ''Manga/KamisamaKiss.'' The guy's default personality is sarcastic asshole and the people he likes are not exempt from that sarcasm or his general dickish behavior. That being said, he regularly gives the heroine Nanami sound advice. Too bad she never really listens.
* In the ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'' prequel manga "Little Army", Miho's friend Emi acts very hostile toward Miho's older sister Maho from their first meeting, causing friction between Miho and Emi. Eventually, Emi reveals the cause of her antipathy toward Maho; [[spoiler:Emi's older sister's team went up against Maho's team. While Maho's team was winning, one of its tanks fell into the water, and Emi's sister's team's flag tank went after it, but Maho's tank took the opportunity to shoot at the flag tank and win.]] Miho is hesitant to believe this, but she asks Maho whether it's true, and is quite upset to hear that it is.
** In the main series manga, after the match with Anzio ([[AdaptationExpansion which was]] [[OffscreenMomentOfAwesome passed over in the anime]]), Anchovy, the commander, acts like a SoreLoser, angrily saying she doesn't accept Miho's way of tankery and saying that there is no meaning to tankery unless you strive for victory. Miho fires back with an ArmorPiercingQuestion that asks if Anchovy believes that her and her team's efforts are meaningless because they lost and says her comrades are most important, but Anchovy replies that the commander's responsibility is to lead the team to victory. Ultimately, [[spoiler:it turns out that the only way for Oarai to avert being shut down is to place first in the tournament, something none of Miho's team wants, so it is necessary for Miho to win]], although Miho doesn't know that at the time and it's unclear whether Anchovy does.
* ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'': AntiHero Saitou is generally placed in this role. Though Kenshin's non-killing philosophy prevails in most instances, Saitou points out that Kenshin's philosophy often gives him more challenges and grief against opponents who do not share it. He also coldly points out that Sano's skills would be of little use in a match in Kyoto, and proves it in a fistfight. Sano actually heeded the lesson and TookALevelInBadass en route to Kyoto.
* In ''Manga/KotouraSan'', Hiyori points out that Haruka's {{telepathy}} is an incredible invasion of privacy. Does this excuse in any way, shape, or form, the way she and others treat her for most of the story? Not really... but it's still a valid point. On the other hand, Haruka [[PowerIncontinence is unable to turn off her mind reading power]], and so has no choice but to read others' minds- her main problem is being unable to keep that ability, and some of her findings, secret.
* In ''Manga/PuellaMagiOrikoMagica'', Homura's deciding to [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl only focus on protecting Madoka]] [[spoiler:when Oriko and witch-Kirika attack their middle school for the express purpose of killing Madoka]], earns Homura a WhatTheHellHero from Madoka herself that tells her that if she feels that way, she shouldn't try to save anyone. Homura responds that she can't save everyone in this case, and should be at least able to protect Madoka; Mami makes a similar point about not being able to save everyone in the school in an internal monologue. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, one of the people they're unable to save is Madoka herself]].
* In Wanna Be The Strongest In The World, local {{Jerkass}} Rio Kazama, who is quite infamous for injuring an Idol and putting the main character on a "Shame Hold" just for kicks, has a point when she berates the former for saying Pro Wrestling is easy, which is further proven when the main character, who is unexperienced in Pro Wrestling, gets utterly defeated for 3 episodes in a row.
* In ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', Levi's BrutalHonesty, despite often making him appear like a jerk, is usually proven right. During Eren's trial, he openly criticizes the merchants for being greedy pigs, but he is absolutely correct since they care more about their safety and business than caring about starving refugees. He also harshly ordered Eren to figure out a way to [[spoiler:transform into a Titan]] because if he didn't, then any chance of reclaiming Wall Maria was gone, and there would be a high possibility that Eren would be handed over to the Military Police Brigade who would then execute him.
* In ''Manga/SailorMoon'', Rei/Sailor Mars may be a bitch and a unsympathetic bully towards Usagi, but sometimes, she is angry out of frustration for having to deal with somebody as irresponsible and lazy as Usagi, as Usagi does not take her Sailor Scout duties seriously (in the anime, at least).
* ''SilverSpoon'': Hachiken's father has several. For example, expecting someone, even your parents, to fund your start up when your business plan consists solely of cheerful optimism isn't going to happen, and piling on more and more activities when you've already overworked yourself into the hospital once (the circumstances were extreme, but still) is not a good idea.
* In TegamiBachi, when [[spoiler:Zazie]]'s parents come to pick [[spoiler:him]] up from the orphanage, having paid off their debt and not having to worry about [[spoiler:him]], being taken as collateral, [[spoiler:Zazie]] refuses to recognize them as [[spoiler:his]] parents, having developed trust issues. The cruel, [[BitchInSheepsClothing two-faced]] orphan matron tells [[spoiler:him]] that "If they're not your parents, why would they want a brat like you?" (Ironically, she is the main cause of [[spoiler:Zazie's]] trust issues). [[spoiler:Zazie]] realizes as [[spoiler:his]] parents are leaving that they "made no excuses and told no lies" when challenged, but a Gaichuu eats their hearts before [[spoiler:Zazie]] can talk with them again.
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[[folder:Comics]]
* In volume 4 of ''Comicbook/{{Empowered}}'', the protagonist is overjoyed to be running for the Caped Justice Awards, until Sistah Spooky informs her that the award is a setup used to publicly humiliate the receiver and that she should watch out. Given that Sistah Spooky has been nothing but antagonistic from day one (not to mention [[BrokenPedestal breaking her own pedestal]], since Empowered ''was'' a big fan of hers until they met), she assumes Sistah is just raining on her parade. [[spoiler: She's not.]]
* In both the graphic novel ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}'' and film adaptation of the selfsame, [[spoiler: [[BigBad Ozymandias]]]] is moved to set his [[BatmanGambit plan]] into action after The Comedian mocks (Captain Metropolis in the novel, [[spoiler: Ozymandias]] himself in the film) for trying to form a SuperTeam and points out that with the ColdWar inching mankind closer to nuclear annihilation with each passing moment, running around beating up petty criminals was pretty much irrelevant.
** The Comedian also condemns Dr. Manhattan for his [[AllPowerfulBystander noninterference]]. The Comedian shoots a pregnant Vietnamese woman over Manhattan's objections, and is then chastised for it. While this is obviously a heinous crime, he correctly points out that Manhattan could have prevented it with his godlike powers, by teleporting either party away or changing the gun into something harmless, but chose not to. [[{{Foreshadowing}} As it turns out,]] [[spoiler:this passive observation eventually leads to the deaths of thousands, if not millions.]]
* In ''ComicBook/SinCity: The Big Fat Kill'', while Dwight's driving a car loaded with dead bodies – including a dead cop who wouldn't fit in the trunk in the passenger seat with a pistol slide ''lodged in his forehead'' — he gets pulled over. His passenger immediately starts talking about how screwed he is.
-->'''Dwight:''' This time I can't bring myself to tell him to shut up. Sure he's an asshole. Sure he's dead. Sure I'm just imagining that he's talking to me. None of that stops the bastard from being absolutely right about everything he's saying.
* The Beast in ''Comicbook/{{Transmetropolitan}}'', who has been heralded as the Ultimate Evil by Spider, manages to make a few surprisingly salient points when doing a pre-election interview. Even Spider grudgingly concedes he may be onto something.
* In [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-10-26/ the October 26, 2013]] ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' strip, the PHB asks a rather simple question that kind of debunks Alice's rather boastful and idealistic one ''very'' quickly. To an extent, it also overlaps with DumbassHasAPoint, given the PHB's typical intelligence.
-->'''Alice''': Futurists say that someday, humans will have the know-how to create an entire universe.
-->'''PHB''': Where would they put it?
* In ''Comicbook/ChickTracts'', there's typically [[BlackAndWhiteMorality unambiguous depictions of who is right and who is wrong]], as well as [[StrawCharacter opposing characters who don't make valid points]] ([[StrawManHasAPoint or at least, aren't supposed to]]). However, in "[[http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0092/0092_01.asp Humbug]]", [[YetAnotherChristmasCarol their take on]] ''Literature/AChristmasCarol'', Scrooge accidentally references a Bible verse while arguing with Cratchit.
-->'''[[LargeHam Scrooge]]''': Why in '''HEAVEN'S''' name would God bother with [[MisanthropeSupreme insignificant]] '''Man'''? Man is '''''rotten''''' to the core[[note]]A footnote indicates Rom 3:10-19[[/note]]! '''MAN''' is a '''''[[ChewingTheScenery BLIGHT]]''''' on the earth'''!'''
-->'''Cratchit''': What a coincidence, Mr. Scrooge. The Word of God says the same thing.
-->'''Scrooge''': It does?
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[[folder:Fanfic]]
* In the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9889135/1/The-Wrath-of-Topaz The Wrath of Topaz]]'', Topaz, who manages to wreak his vengeance on the Crystal Gems after twelve years, actually has every right to be angry at them for throwing him out after he [[spoiler: accidentally killed Rose Quartz]] and not letting him explain himself, even if he is getting a bit [[DisproportionateRetribution carried away with his methods]].
* In the ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'' fanfiction ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', part of the reason for Jade's hatred for her family after her (magically induced by Daolon Wong) FaceHeelTurn is [[TheResenter the resentment she feels]] for Jackie not [[DudeWheresMyRespect giving her the respect she feels she deserves]] after [[BadassAdorable saving both his life and the world]] [[CrazyAwesome from dark forces on multiple occasions]] (Uncle taking Tohru, a near stranger and former enemy, over her, his own flesh and blood, as his apprentice is also a factor).
** When [[TheStarscream Valmont's]] coup attempt fails, Jade calls him out for [[UngratefulBastard betraying her even after she gave him a second chance at glory]], he points out that she really shouldn't have expected kindness or gratitude from a master criminal.
* In the ''WesternAmination/JackieChanAdventures'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{WITCH}}'' crossover fanfic ''Fanfic/{{Kage}}'' (part of ''FanFic/ProjectDarkJade'', like ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'' above), [[EnemyWithin The Queen]] gives a good argument that Jade is a murderer, based off Jade blasting Shendu's statue form to bits with the Dragon Talisman (even if he ''did'' come back later, they had technically killed him) after Jade expresses conflict over the thought of killing Vathek and Tynar. Try as she might, Jade has trouble finding a hole in the Queen's logic.
* ''Fanfic/FutariWaPrettyCureBlueMoon'': Though she's just a member of the GirlPosse, not the actual AlphaBitch herself (that's Emiru), Mia makes a full HeelFaceTurn by breaking Asa out of her HeroicBSOD. At the same time, Hoshi, who, while good from the start, never much liked Yoko, is the one to lecture her for [[WhatTheHellHero causing it]].
* The Premise of most, if not all, JerkSue fics.
* In the ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fanfic ''FanFic/HowIBecameYours'', Mai's supposed MoralEventHorizon is causing Katara to have a ConvenientMiscarriage, [[http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/ReneeLuvsZutara/HIBY%20Chapter%201/028.jpg but she makes a pretty good case]] for why she did it, even if it's not a [[GoodIsNotNice nice]] one, but since she plays the DesignatedVillain we're supposed to take Zuko's side. This would arguably be a case of StrawmanHasAPoint, but [[http://s762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/ReneeLuvsZutara/HIBY%20Chapter%201/?action=view¤t=008.jpg#!oZZ12QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs762.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx265%2FReneeLuvsZutara%2FHIBY%2520Chapter%25201%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3D011.jpg Toph also pointed out a similar reason for Katara not telling Zuko about the baby]].
* In ''Fanfic/PerfectionIsOverrated'', Nao, despite her antipathy toward Natsuki and largely amoral nature, reminds Natsuki that killing is not something to be done lightly, noting that [[EvenEvilHasStandards she has not tried to kill any of the perverts she robbed]]. Natsuki agrees, but notes that they have little other choice in dealing with Shizune.
* Sasuke in ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7820743/8/Naruto-Ramen-Days Naruto Ramen Days]]'' rips Tsunade a new one after hearing why she left the village.
-->'''Sasuke''': "''This'' is the person we went through all this trouble to ask to be our Hokage? Someone who just runs away from all their problems and spends all their time drinking and gambling? Don't think I missed the fact that Jiraiya was looking at casinos and bars when he was trying to find you."
-->'''Tsunade''': "Now see here, what does a brat like you know about-"
-->'''Sasuke''': "What do I know about loss? Was your entire family killed in a single night? Did you come home to find your parents lying on the floor, covered in blood? Did you find a single relative still alive, only to find out that he was the one who was responsible? ...I didn't think so. [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech This whole time you've been treating us like we weren't worthy of your time, like we should be thankful you bothered to speak with us at all, when really you're just a coward who abandoned her village and her duties as soon as something went wrong. I guess you were right about one thing; if someone like you is going to be our Hokage, the title really is worthless]]."
* Multiple ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' fanfiction use another character (notably Sasori in ''Fanfic/ScorpionDisciple'' and Sasuke in ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8261994/1/The-Scorned-Son The Scorned Son]]'') to point out that before he became a ninja, [[BrattyHalfPint Nar]][[SmallNameBigEgo uto]] constantly boasted that he'd be the next Hokage but put little to no effort into actually achieving said goal. Likewise that his being an orphan means very little in a village of shinobi where roughly half of the children in shinobi families are missing at least one parent.
* In the ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' multicross fanfic [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2020041/1/What-the-frell-did-you-do-this-time-Erpman "What the Frell Did You Do This Time Erpman?"]] there is a scene where John Chricton meets with [[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Gaius Baltar,]] and they can all see the various personalities in each other's head. John, while not a jerkass per se, immediately starts ranting at how unfair it is that despite all his good deeds, all the times he's saved the day, all the sacrifices he's made... and he gets [[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070108032456/farscape/images/thumb/b/bd/Harvey_2.jpg/220px-Harvey_2.jpg Harvey]] in his head, while a traitorous, weasel of a man like Gaius gets the super-hot [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5e/Number_Six_Tricia_Helfer.jpg/220px-Number_Six_Tricia_Helfer.jpg Six]] living in his head. Harvey starts to protest that a) this is ''not'' why they set this conference up, and b) that's not fair to Harvey... but then he takes one long look at Six and admits that, yes, John has a point.
* In ''[[Fanfic/AradsStardust Stardust]]'', Vahlen might come across to those with outside knowledge as being unnecessarily nasty. The thing is, Twilight is, despite her cute exterior, essentially an EldritchAbomination to XCOM, with [[BeyondTheImpossible powers that are blatantly physics-breaking]] and would be very hard to beat if turned against mankind. Some paranoia and suspicion is genuinely justified.
* Harry is a [[JerkAss jerk]] in ''FanFic/TheDarknessSeries'' when Ron [[SkewedPriorities comes crying to him when he's banned from Quidditch]] but Harry does have a point--it's not like Ron was there for him when Harry thought he was going to ''die'' in the Tri-Wizard Tournament.
* In the opening of Twilight Sparkle's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech against Prince Blueblood in Fanfic/GettingBackOnYourHooves, she admits he is right to blame the Gala's destruction on Pinkie Pie, Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy. Though that still doesn't excuse the rest of his JerkAss behavior.
* In ''Fanfic/SapphireEleanorRoseSuzetteDeMontVsCanon'', [[TheMole Missy]], [[BigBad The Anonymous]], [[TheDragon Jenny]], and ''[[Fanfic/MyImmortal Tara freaking Gilesbie]]'' all bring up a few good points in the KangarooCourt they set up for the [[MarySueHunter MSEA]] and Literature/HarryPotter characters. This visibly shakes our heroes, leading to a BittersweetEnding.
* An unintentional example shows up in ''FanFic/CurseOfTheDemonPony''. Boris, who is a {{fantastic racis|m}}t, a JerkJock, and a [[Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast Gaston]] [[{{Expy}} ripoff]] whom the reader is in no way supposed to care about or like, tells [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Twilight Sparkle]] that she should get over Ben Mare, the "special somepony" that she's been constantly pining over for years. It sounds like quite a stretch, especially since he's only saying it to try to get her to be his girlfriend, but in a way, he's right: Twilight always seems to get extremely depressed whenever the subject of her being in a relationship is brought up, and it's been that way for years. Having such depression for so long over one thing and not even trying to get over it is not healthy for anyone. Of course, no-one in the story sees it like this.
* ''[[FanFic/TheNuptialverse Families]]'': Aside from the FantasticRacism fueling their vendetta against Spike, [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Olive Branch]]'s anti-Celestia movement actually has some good points, such as the fact that she really does always rely on others to fight the more dangerous threats to Equestria, and the fact that the Royal Guard failed against the changeling invasion despite supposedly being on high alert. [[spoiler: Though when it ultimately turns out that Olive Branch was only using the movement as a (poorly thought out) scheme to force Celestia to make him [[ImmortalitySeeker immortal]] and didn't actually give a damn about her politics, the movement falls apart.]]
* In the ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'' fanfic [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9200114/3/Steel-Carnage Steel Carnage]] [[OriginalCharacter Asuka]] gives Momo a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech tongue-lashing]] for her poor aiming skills, and says keeping her around in spite of that and not helping her improve reflects badly on the rest of the team. Her teammates come to her defense, but Asuka [[ArmorPiercingQuestion asks if Momo was on the gun in the tournament finals]] (when Anzu had taken over, [[LetsGetDangerous with much better results]]), leaving them unable to answer, and Asuka threatens to get a transfer unless they make improvements. Miho ultimately concludes they didn't do enough to help Momo and apologizes to Momo for that, and they end up working on their performance and convincing Asuka that they have improved.
* Yuugao can be quite harsh in the ''{{Naruto}}'' story [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9880657/16/NBH NBH]], such as criticizing Kurenai for not doing more to help [[ShrinkingViolet Hinata's]] confidence issues or dealing with Naruto's moping (attacking him with a sword until he's too busy trying to survive to mope). However, when Kurenai says she has "no place being around children", Yuugao is absolutely right when she points out that she isn't; she's around soldiers.
-->'''Kurenai''': "It's not her fault, her family..."
-->'''Yuugao''': "And now you're her teacher. Now, she's your soldier. Now she's your responsibility. She has a problem, it's your job to fix it."
-->'''Kurenai''': "You can't just magically wave a wand and make someone's problems and insecurities go away."
-->'''Yuugao''': "And you can't sit there and blame it all on her family when what you try fails."
* In ''Fanfic/BleachFanWorks'', many of the people who flame the fanfic writers have points about the ''many'' problems with their fics, even if they write their reviews to be so scathing that they would be difficult to accept even if the writers had the ability to take criticism.
* ''Fanfic/MassEffectClashOfCivilizations'': Saren, repeatedly. He's still an arrogant, racist bastard, but he takes his assignment as head of security seriously, makes valid points of observation, [[spoiler: was correct in that Tali was sending illegal messages and even manages to prevent a potentially lethal situation from escalating by drawing his gun on Captain Miles, giving the ODST a reason not to fire]]. Couple that with a willingness to sacrifice himself for the team makes it clear that this is not the same Saren confronted in ''VideoGame/MassEffect1'', whether or not he will grow into the same form remains to be seen...
* In ''Fanfic/FrozenHearts'', as the brothers of [[{{Disney/Frozen}} Prince Hans]] debate whether to [[spoiler:ask the king for a pardon for him]], they debate the various ramifications of the issue, and hold a poll amongst themselves. The group that votes "no" is composed of the {{Jerkass}} brothers, who treated Hans poorly even before he became a political liability [[spoiler:as a result of what he did in the movie]]. However, even the brothers that vote "yes", concede the opposing side has a point that the kingdom's livelihood has suffered, or at least don't contest the point.
* ''FanFic/MeanTimeToBreakdown'': [[VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo Iwanako]]'s teacher Mutou can tell that she's [[StepfordSmiler bottling things up]] rather than dealing with her issues, and calls her out on this. Unfortunately, his timing ''sucks''. Probably not a good idea to give one of your students a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech when she's currently [[spoiler:hospitalized due to somebody else crashing into her]].
* In the ''WesternAnimation/FairlyOddParents'' fanfic ''FanFic/NeverHadAFriendLikeMe'' [[JackassGenie Norm]] goes into a rant about how fairies consider themselves to be superior to genies, even though they can do something as cruel as separate from a kid who has grown attached to them. While he is all too happy to be a jerk, he does make a valid point, that children can potentially lose their godparents through no fault of their own and end up returned to their miserable existence. It's quite telling that Amanda -Norm's current master-an extremely selfless girl is horrified by the concept, and it's what motivates her to make her first wish, that she would not cause such a thing to happen. [[spoiler: In fact, late in the story, Crocker does end up nearly capturing upon Cosmo, Wanda, and Poof, and had Amanda made that wish, Timmy would have been found out even though it wasn't his fault.]]
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* In ''Disney/WreckItRalph'', King Candy's failed BatmanGambit is a form of this. All the characters are video game characters inhabiting their various games. King Candy's argument is that should a glitchy character called Vannelope race and be selected by the players, her glitches could turn players off to the game and cause it to go offline. If the game goes offline, his subjects will be homeless and Vannelope - as a glitch - will be destroyed. Even if he [[spoiler: ''made'' Vannelope a glitch]], King Candy was making a valid point. Letting glitch-prone Vannelope be seen by the players was risky. [[spoiler: Though, of course, the players end up loving her [[GoodBadBugs because]] of the glitchiness.]]
** Though his argument seems this way on the surface, it's easy to tell that King Candy is lying because his argument goes too far. ''All'' video games have glitches here and there, and it would be downright stupid to throw out every game that displays a minor mishap or two. Just look at the games that were shown to be unplugged or in danger of it: the racing game opposing Turbo Time suffered from Turbo being an ever-present GameBreakingBug, Turbo Time itself was ''missing its protagonist'', and Fix-it Felix Jr. was missing its villain. It really comes off as though a game isn't actually in danger unless the glitches render it unplayable, which Vannelope being an active racer would not do.
* While Elsa from ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' isn't a jerkass (more stern and aloof), she was harsh when telling Anna that she won't give her blessing to Anna and Hans' marriage since it was too fast. [[spoiler: Considering what kind of person Hans really was, Elsa's point was valid.]] Kristoff, who's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, agrees.
** A strange example, but one that nevertheless counts, comes up when [[spoiler:Prince Hans, whose true character hasn't yet been revealed]] tells Elsa not to kill two soldiers who had just tried to kill her, saying that it [[MoralEventHorizon would make her the monster people feared her as]]. This is most likely done to manipulate her, [[spoiler:since he's able to take advantage of her hesitation to redirect one of their crossbows to knock down the ice chandelier and knock her out]], but she accepts his point. [[spoiler:He also points out how stupid Anna was for falling for him at first sight- all the more of a Jerkass move because he's gloating over his betrayal of her, and all the more of a good point after he's shown his true colors]]
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[[folder:Film - Live Action]]
* 1960's ''Home From The Hill'' focuses on a dysfunctional southern family, the Hunnicutts, in which the mother, Hannah (Eleanor Parker), has hated her husband, Wade (Robert Mitchum) for his womanizing (resulting in one known illegitimate son, played by the A-Team's George Peppard) and has spent the last 18 years making their son, Theron (George Hamilton), dependent upon her. When Wade decides it's time to help Theron "man up" and stop being such a borderline ManChild, Hannah reveals the truth of Wade's infidelities to Theron - which causes him to hate both his parents (Wade for being a jerk and Hannah for not having the strength to do anything about it and both for lying to him). Following some very epic angst for all involved Wade finally seems to realize what a jerk he is and calls Hannah out on playing the victim card for so long and refusing to acknowledging her own JerkAss behavior. After the big reveal he taunts Hannah by saying: "You finally got the revenge you've been waiting for all these years, but what good is it gonna do ya now? He hates me alright, but he hates you too for telling him." He sums it up again rather nicely later on: "We're rotten parents Hannah. This is a rotten home."
* The film Zero Charisma is full of them. The first is after Scott is ousted as Game Master; he angrily states to the others that Miles is not their friend and will abandon them once he's done with his "experiment" i.e. gets bored. Granted Scott is only saying this because of his insecurities, and his inability to cope with not being in charge, but he is right. Miles does eventually abandon them, and returns to his hipper friends excluding the others. Scott even calls him out on this during the party scene.
** Miles delivers one to Scott pointing out that, he took nothing from him and it is his own fault no-one likes him.
*** Nana also delvers one to Scott after he yells at her for welching on her promise to give the house to him. She points out that was in return for him taking care of her, but he doesn't instead she takes care of him. Furthermore, it is her house so he has no claim to it period.
* Used in ''Film/HowTheGrinchStoleChristmas'', when the Grinch [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls the Whos out on their constant worrying about gifts]].
-->'''Grinch:''' That's what it's all about, isn't it? That's what it's ''always'' been ''about''! Gifts, gifts, ''giftsgiftsgiftsgiftsgiftsgifts!'' You wanna know what happens to your gifts? They all come to me. In your garbage. You see what I'm saying? ''In your GARBAGE!'' I could ''hang'' myself with all the bad Christmas neckties I found at the dump. And the avarice. THE AVARICE NEVER ENDS! "I want golf clubs!" "I want diamonds!" "I want a pony so I can ride it twice, get bored with it and sell it to make glue!" [[BlatantLies Look, I don't wanna makes waves, but]] this whole Christmas season is ''stupid! Stupid! STUPID!'' There is, however, one teeny-tiny Christmas tradition that I find quite... meaningful. Mistletoe. ''Now pucker up and KISS IT, Whoville!''
* Used in-universe in ''[[Film/{{Gremlins}} Gremlins 2]]'' with this exchange:
-->'''Clamp:''' That thing that was in here a minute ago, that's dangerous! This guy's from the art department.
-->'''Forster:''' Well, ask him how he knows so much about these "green things".
-->'''Clamp:''' That's a good question Bill – how do you know so much about them?
* In ''Film/ItsAMadMadMadMadWorld'', [[EvilMatriarch Mrs. Marcus]] is the one who suggests simply splitting [[MacGuffin the $350,000]] that's been buried under the big "W", but if anyone had listened to her, we wouldn't have a movie.
* ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead'', If Ben and the rest of the group had listened to Harry and [[spoiler: hunkered down in the basement, they would have had a much better chance of surviving.]]
* ''Film/TheLastKingOfScotland'': Stone, the arrogant SmugSnake British official whom the protagonist hates, turns out to be completely right about Amin's brutality. [[spoiler: When Garrigan tries to get help from him, he only decides to if he does his bidding.]]
* [[DeanBitterman Dean Wormer]] and [[TheMafia the Mayor]] are, respectively, a jerk and a crook... and their dislike of and desire to be rid of [[Film/AnimalHouse Delta Tau Chi Fraternity]] are perfectly understandable and reasonable.
* ''Film/{{Nixon}}'': Maybe some people would not think of a 19 year old college kid who protests against UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar as a JerkAss, but Nixon certainly does:
--> '''Richard M. Nixon:''' She got it, Bob. 19-year-old college kid.
--> '''H. R. Haldeman:''' What? Who?
--> '''Richard M. Nixon:''' She understood something it's taken me 25 years in politics to understand. [[TheMan The CIA, the Mafia, those Wall Street bastards...]]
--> '''H. R. Haldeman:''' Sir?
--> '''Richard M. Nixon:''' [[InherentInTheSystem The Beast. 19-year-old kid. She called it a wild animal]].
* ''Film/{{Thor}}'': Loki has two very good points. Putting Thor on the throne of Asgard at the beginning of the film would have been a very bad idea. Also, when he accuses Odin of adopting him for political reasons only, it is apparent that it strikes very close to home.
* Larry the Liquidator in ''Film/OtherPeoplesMoney''. He seems to revel in the fact that he's hated for getting rich by destroying companies. But when people actually talk to him, he's quick to point out that he's just salvaging the value from companies that were essentially dead already.
-->'''Kate:''' You know, you're not very nice.
-->'''Larry:''' Since when do you gotta be nice to be right?
* ''Film/{{Clerks}}'': At the peak of Dante's moaning over how badly his day's gone ("I'm not even supposed to ''be'' here today!") and how Randal's the one to blame for it, Randal snaps, noting that (a) he came to work that day of his own volition and (b) most of the bad things that happened were his own fault, such as closing the store multiple times to pursue his own interests, and trying to vainly re-ignite his relationship with an ex by cheating on his current girlfriend. He then criticises Dante's attitude, noting that he [[KnowNothingKnowItAll constantly talks down to and belittles others]] [[SmallNameBigEgo while working a low-wage menial job at a convenience store]], and pointing out that although Jay and Silent Bob are stupid, at least they don't try to overcompensate for having what's essentially a monkey's job.
-->'''Randal:''' If we're so fucking advanced, what are we doing working here?
* ''Film/TheAvengers'': Captain America, tired of Stark's arrogant egomania, tries to insult his manliness by accusing him of being nothing without his Iron Man armor. Stark effortlessly swats the insult down:
-->'''Cap:''' [[YoureNothingWithoutYourPhlebotinum Take away that suit and what are you?]]
-->'''Stark:''' A genius billionaire playboy philanthropist.
** What really makes it this trope, however, is that it's followed by Natasha - not the biggest Tony Stark fan given their interaction in ''Film/IronMan2'' - nodding in acknowledgement of the point.
** He loses his cool and is genuinely hurt, though, when Cap then fires back with: "I knew guys with none of that worth '''ten''' of you!"
*** Well, they all lose their cool because of the influence of Loki's spear. Had they not been, it's possible Cap wouldn't have snapped at Tony in the first place.
** There's also Cap's question to Tony where he asks if he would lie on barbed wire to let others get across safely. Tony's response? ''Cut the wire.''
* In ''Film/{{Alien 3}}'', Mr. Andrews (the nominal Warden of the prison) is a pretty big {{Jerkass}}, but he has very legitimate grounds for not wanting Ripley to walk around the prison freely. He has to keep a population of convicted murderers and rapists in check, who are still very dangerous even if they have found religion. Ripley almost gets raped and perhaps even killed when she wanders off alone. Also, her story about the Alien (which has never been seen on any other planet than LV-426) ''is'' admittedly a little hard to believe, when from his perspective the [[OccamsRazor more likely scenario]] is that Murphy's death was just an accident, and that Golic was simply an insane murderer who killed two other inmates.
* In ''Film/PacificRim'', despite his egotism, Chuck Hansen criticized Raleigh and Mako after they inadvertently activated Gipsy Danger's plasma caster and nearly destroyed half of the Shatterdome, not out of malice, but because he was concerned with their ability to do their job and not end up hurting the other pilots. He also only started to insult Raleigh after finding out that Raleigh was involved with building the [[AbsurdlyIneffectiveBarricade Kaiju Wall]] because he first hand saw how "effective" it was when a Kaiju easily broke through the Australian wall the day before.
* In ''Film/PitchBlack'' Carolyn is outraged to find out that Johns is a morphine addict when her copilot died in pain without relief. Johns implies heavily that the entire reason he's an addict in the first place is because of a piece of a shiv Riddick left right next to his spine that causes him nearly constant pain.
* Walter Peck in ''Film/GhostBusters'' could very well be the trope namer, as his entire existence is made of this trope. Huge jerkass? Check. But he's entirely justified in his suspicions. Weird supernatural occurrences starting exactly at the same time three disgraced scientists start up a supernatural elimination business? Using equipment they refuse to talk about it, including, by their own admission to each other unlicensed nuclear accelerators? And when he does originally show up, he's relatively reasonable. He shows his true jerkass colors because Venkman fights jerkass with jerkass with him. The man is a government official tasked with making sure those guys don't cause a huge public safety incident (which, even though it was pushed in to happening by an increasingly pissed off Peck, did still happen), and Venkman pretty much stonewalls him because he can, and plays him like a fiddle to boot. Of course he was going to push harder, he's trying to investigate them, and one of the owners won't cooperate. He's also vindicated by the sequel, in which their business was shut down ''specifically'' because of all the problems they caused in this movie.
** Earlier in ''Film/GhostBusters'', we meet Doctor Yeager, Dean of the Psychology Department. His sole purpose in the film is to sneer down his nose at Venkman, Spengler, and Stanz, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech make some snarky comments about them]], and toss them off of the university's campus. The thing is, every single snarky criticism he levels against them, especially the ones he makes about Peter Venkman, is 100% true and accurate. They really are poor scientists, and Venkman really does see science as a dodge.
* ''Film/{{K-9}}'': When Dooley's girlfriend Tracey is kidnapped, the captain points out that it was Dooley's "seat of the pants bullshit" that got Tracey involved in the first place. At the very least, the stunts Dooley pulled to antagonize Lyman at every turn, such as holding him and his guests at gunpoint during a dinner party, didn't help.
* Walter Sobchak in ''Film/TheBigLebowski''. He turns out to be completely right that [[spoiler:Bunny Lebowski's kidnapping was faked]], [[TheMillstone despite causing so many problems for the Dude]] throughout the film.
* In ''Film/ItsAWonderfulLife'', Mr. Potter, a MorallyBankruptBanker, derides George Bailey's late father, saying that he was not a real businessman. It's a point that George concedes, although he then goes on to say that while it wasn't a success by Potter's standards, it helped people move into their own homes.
* Though not a jerk, Eva Rodriguez is vaguely arrogant (and a rebel, to boot!), particularly early on in ''Film/CenterStage''. At one point, when she calls Sergei on looking at the mirror and uses a certain four-letter word to highlight her irritation at his alleged vanity, the ballet instructor has this to say to both of them:
-->'''Instructor''': If people want to hear profanity, Miss Rodriguez, they can take a subway. They don't have to spend $60 on a ballet ticket... although she has a point.
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[[folder:Literature]]
* Vidia from the ''Franchise/DisneyFairies'' series does this on occasion.
* A variation of this occurs in Literature/TheHouseOfNight series, which leads to friendship between TheHero and The AlphaBitch, who eventually becomes the SixthRanger and a major supporting character.
* In ''Literature/DarkestPowers'', Tori Enright, while not necessarily evil, is a self-proclaimed bitch who once made it her priority to make Chloe's life hell. While her first time attempting to give Chloe advice ends up in the two of them almost getting carved up by a trio of street thugs, when it seems that Chloe is having trouble with Simon and Derek and gets subsequently very depressed about it, Tori's pep talk ends up helping Chloe to realize just what's wrong with herself. Which in turn leads to her accepting the fact that the one she's liked all along is actually Derek and allows her to return to a mostly normal state.
* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', there's a scene in the second book where Alliser Thorne, an abrasive and arrogant training instructor with the Night's Watch, comes to King's Landing to present evidence that the dead are walking and warn everyone that [[AStormIsComing an invasion by the Others is imminent]]. And he's telling the truth: The dead are walking, the Others are coming, and the kings and lords of Westeros are too busy fighting each other to do anything about it. But every time we've seen Thorne before, he's been portrayed in a negative light, so most readers cheer when BreakoutCharacter Tyrion [[BreakTheHaughty makes a fool out of him in front of the royal court]]:
-->'''Tyrion:''' Lord Baelish, buy our brave Ser Alliser a hundred spades to take back to the Wall with him.
-->'''Alliser:''' Spades?
-->'''Tyrion:''' If you ''bury'' your dead, they won't come walking.
** This is also a major bit of NiceJobBreakingItHero for Tyrion; knowing what a {{Jerkass}} Thorne is, Tyrion refused to see him when he arrived, and kept him waiting for so long that the severed, yet still moving, [[OurZombiesAreDifferent wight]] hand Thorne had brought with him had rotted down to the bones. Had Tyrion seen him earlier, he would have been presented with indisputable proof that Thorne was telling the truth, and the course of the whole series might have been dramatically changed. In the end Tyrion gave Thorne the men he was asking for by pretending to do do it as a joke and says that the only thing hurt was Thorne's pride. However, Thorne is right that by treating it as a joke, Tyrion insured that everyone else would treat it as a joke as well and no one would take the threat from the wall seriously.
** Sandor 'The Hound' Clegane also counts, as he is a pretty big jerk but the majority of what he says about how the lords and knights of the kingdoms take advantage of the weak is pretty accurate. His assessment of his [[PsychoForHire brother]] is both incredibly blunt and distressingly on the mark.
*** This also applies to Petyr Baelish; like the Hound, he realises that the entire socio-political system he lives in is essentially a lie but, unlike the Hound, uses this realisation simply to push for his own power.
** In ''Literature/ADanceWithDragons'', Dany gets a visit from an old "friend", Xaro, the merchant prince of Qarth. His behaviour becomes increasingly obnoxious throughout his visit, [[spoiler: until he reaches the point where he declares war on her]], but he makes several good points about Dany's rule. The truth is, Dany's reign hasn't done a lot of good for the people of Meereen, as her sacking of it and the subsequent crises have shattered the city's economy and started a guerilla civil war, and many people who were once happy and well-off are now starving. Moreover, despite her claims to be the breaker of chains, there are many people in her city who are slaves in all but name--slaves to ''her.'' Not to mention the fact that her dragons have gone completely out of control and have begun eating the farmers' livestock and ''children.''
** In the first book, ''Literature/AGameOfThrones'', ''maegi'' Mirri Maz Duur does some rather awful things to Dany without true cause (although some are later exaggerated by Dany--she did ''not'' kill [[spoiler: Khal Drogo]]) but one act stands out as being pragmatic in a Kingslayer-fashion: [[spoiler: the killing of Dany's unborn child, Rhaego]].
-->'''Mirri Maz Duur:''' "The stallion who mounts the world will burn no cities now. His ''khalasar'' shall trample no nations into dust."
* ''Literature/HarryPotter''
** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire'', Malfoy believes Hagrid's Blast-ended Skrewts are abominations of nature. The Skrewts are ''jet-propelled scorpion-leeches'' that eventually grow to be 10-feet long [[spoiler:and are apparently illegal hybrids of Manticores and fire-crabs meaning they shouldn't even exist in the first place]]. While Hermoine defends the Skrewts in Hagrid's class out of loyalty to Hagrid, she privately agrees with Malfoy that the Skrewts are horrible monsters.
* In ''TheSlap'' by Christos Tsiolkas, Harry is often portrayed as abusive asshole with few redeeming qualities. Nevertheless, his defence for the titular Slap - that Hugo was in the process of attacking his and his cousin's children with a cricket bat while his own parents were doing little to stop it - is difficult to argue with, as Anouk points out early on - "We ''all'' wanted to slap Hugo that day!" - and even Aisha comes to agree with as the court case approaches.
* While [[Literature/LesMiserables Inspector Javert's]] belief that criminals can never change is extreme, he was fully justified in not trusting Valjean to keep his word and allow himself to be arrested after being given a few days to put his affairs in order. After all, the reason Valjean was a wanted criminal at the time was because he had already broken his parole once, so why would a policeman who knew this trust him to honor a parole now that he's finally been caught?
* In the ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'', BigBad Galbatorix reveals that one of his plans is to enforce equality by controlling the use of magic, accomplished by [[spoiler: hijacking the magical language itself so that he is only one who can use it]]. While Galby is notoriously treacherous and it's heavily implied that this is done only so that he can retain power, it's hard to argue against some level of control in a universe where magic has turned [[OurElvesAreBetter the elves]] into nearly invincible {{Game Breaker}}s who could decimate the humans, dwarves, and [[OurOrcsAreDifferent urgals]] combined if they felt like it. Even Nasuada, leader of the Varden and one of the biggest enemies of Galbatorix, admits that he might have been right on this one.
** At one point in ''Eragon'', Eragon and Murtagh are accosted by a band of slavers who try to forcefully claim a bounty on an unconscious Arya's head. Eragon uses his magic to frighten away most of the slavers, but Murtagh takes the leader of the slaver band and beheads him. Murtagh justifies his act by arguing that the slavers could spread information about Eragon, Saphira, and Arya to the Empire, particularly after they had just attacked an Imperial prison to free Arya. Eragon views this as pointlessly cruel and petty, but Murtagh's argument can come across as [[IDidWhatIHadToDo more pragmatic]] given their situation.
** Vanir, Eragon's elf [[TheRival rival]] while in Ellesmera, is a haughty jerk who insults an injured Eragon while repeatedly beating him in sparring, and at one point outright tells him that Saphira must have been somehow mistaken to choose him as a Rider. While Vanir is a tremendous douchebag, his implicit messages to Eragon - that respect has to be earned the hard way, particularly if you're someone who an entire species' survival is thought to hinge on - is right.
* In ''Literature/TheHungerGames'' trilogy, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even President Snow has standards]]. To him, his acts of terror and oppression [[IDidWhatIHadToDo are all in the name of order]]. He may threaten, intimidate, insinuate, etc...but he never ''lies''. A reminder of this becomes a key plot point towards the end of ''Mockingjay''. [[spoiler:He was honest about the incident that killed Katniss' sister but essentially ended the war ''not'' being his idea, which means it had to have been the work of President Coin of Sector 13, confirming Katniss' suspicion that the war was turning EvilVersusEvil.]]
* In ''The Literature/DresdenFiles'' the White Council has a zero tolerance policy on any violation of the Laws of Magic and the only punishment for a violation is beheading. After [[CrimeOfSelfDefense killing his teacher in self-defense]], Harry spends a good part of the early books being viewed as the suspect any time a magical crime is suspected. While this seems unreasonable at first, it's eventually explained that over centuries the Council has seen that dark magic is inherently harmful to the psyche; even one use is enough to start twisting a good person into a warlock.
** Harry himself does not disprove this evidence. He works hard to keep on the straight and narrow because he understands how quickly he would lose himself if he slipped.
* Lord Wyldon, the sexist training master in ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'', makes it clear that he doesn't think Keladry should be training for a knight. He also continually forces her to climb trees and look over high walls when [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes she's cripplingly afraid of heights]] and it often causes her to StressVomit. Kel's friend Neal attributes this to Wyldon's continual efforts to make her leave, but Kel says that she does ''have'' to overcome her fear and Wyldon is really trying to help her.
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* In the early years of ''Series/AmericanIdol'', Simon Cowell was very blunt about bad performances, but most people do agree with his decision.
** ''Series/AmericasGotTalent'': Piers Morgan, [[FollowTheLeader also]] British, [[FollowTheLeader also]] blunt, also [[BuffySpeak jerkish]], also usually right. Also no longer on the show.
* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' has a "JerkassFacade Has a Point" variant. Oliver publicly announces that despite what everyone expects him to do, he refuses to accept a leadership position in his parents' company. His real reason is because he doesn't want to jeopardize his ability to spend his free time [[VigilanteMan scaring the piss out of corrupt rich people]], but he's completely correct when he points out that a serial dropout who spent the last five years trapped on an isolated island is probably not the best person to manage an international corporation.
-->''What, do you think I got my MBA on that island?''
* ''Series/BabylonFive'': In the episode "Grey 17 Is Missing", the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Warrior Caste member Neroon]] delivers a rather [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABOw9cNw5lU&t=00m07s caustic observation]] to how he interprets Delenn's breaking of the Grey Council and essentially taking over Minbari leadership for the Greater Good. While everything Delenn claims about the situation turns out to be ''true'' and eventually works out for the good of everyone, from Neroon's point of view it's probably the equivalent of how a modern-day American Senator would feel if a fellow Senator broke up Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court and the Presidency, formed a private army with her own charisma, proceeded to enlist volunteers from a country we were recently at war with (like, say, Iraq), formed a base on an outpost of said country, and claimed that she was on a MissionFromGod and that all this was necessary to save the world from AlienInvasion. Ultimately subverted because he was then confronted by Marcus, a ''Human'' Ranger [[YouShallNotPass willing to fight him to the death to protect her]]. Not fifteen years ago, Humans and Minbari were ''at war''. For a Human to lay down his life for a Minbari like this makes Neroon realize that while he had a point, so did Delenn, and hers was more significant: the circumstances ''[[GodzillaThreshold really were that extreme]]''.
* ''Series/BreakingBad'': Walter White fits this trope in season 4. He becomes increasingly paranoid as the season goes on, thinking that Gus is planning to kill Walt, partly by driving a wedge between his relationship with Jesse. And he's right. Still, this doesn't excuse his acting like a total asshole; he even says, "ItsAllAboutMe" at one point.
* ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'':
** Episode one of season two had Buffy, traumatized by her near-death experience at the hands of [[BigBad The Master]], [[WhatTheHellHero acting mean and uncommunicative to her friends]]. She wound up getting a tongue-lashing from [[AlphaBitch Cordelia]].
** Cordelia fills this role constantly in ''Buffy'' and ''Series/{{Angel}}'': "Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass". When she joined ''Angel'', the role on ''Buffy'' was taken over by Anya, an ex-demon who hasn't learnt which thoughts should be verbalized, and occasionally by Spike who often didn't have time for social skills.
** Frequently -- but extremely reluctantly -- with Spike and to a lesser extent with Andrew, though it overlaps with DumbassHasAPoint.
*** Most notably when he drunkenly explains to Angel and Buffy that the two will tear each other apart but can never be just friends, characterising himself in the process as '...Love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.'
** In season 3, the Mayor (while [[AffablyEvil anything but Jerkassy]], was definitely a vicious villain) provided frank and accurate advice on why Buffy and Angel's relationship was doomed to fail. While he was trying to kill the both of them. Nice guy.
** In season 4 the gang has to deal with a Native American ghost who's trying to take revenge for happened to his people, and are reluctant to act because they feel really guilty about what the colonists did. Spike pipes up with his own point: the Europeans won, killed the natives and took their land; that's the whole ''point'' of conquering new territories. "The history of the world is ''not'' people making friends; you had better weapons, and you ''massacred'' them; end of story." He then goes on to say that they're not going to be able to fight anyone if they keep that politically correct attitude up, and when Willow suggests that they could talk to the ghost, he has this to say: "''You exterminated his race.'' What could you ''possibly'' say that would make him feel better? It's kill or be killed here; take your bloody pick."
** Kennedy is a self admitted JerkAss who was talked down when she tried to share her views. Thing was, she was dead right when it came to Buffy's own jerkass behavior, and when the two meet up again in the Season 9 comics she's ditched the DrillSergeantNasty attitude she got off on and genuinely wants to help other Slayers, and Buffy, not just with employment but coming to terms with a new unmasqued world and what Buffy had done.
*** She brings up not destroying Tincan might help restore magic, and in turn Willow. Even though they split up it doesn't mean Kennedy doesn't still care for her, and it might get some people off Buffy's case for what she'd done.
** One of Spike's best ones was when Dawn found out she was the key and Spike was there with her. Buffy angrily went and began beating him up until he pointed out that she would have snuck into the Magic Box anyways, he just felt it would be better to have a former BigBad as a bodyguard.
*** And then adds that if Buffy had been honest with Dawn from the start, they could have avoided this scenario. Buffy later concedes that he was right.
* ''Series/{{Charmed}}'':
** In the episode "Crimes and Witch Demeanours", Barbas argues his case that the Charmed Ones should be stripped of their powers, due to their recklessness and selfish abuse of their abilities, nearly breaking the masquerade on a regular basis and putting innocents into situations where they've gotten killed. Turns out, the Tribunal actually ''agree'' with most of his argument and decide to strip Phoebe's active powers, due to her being the worse repeat-offender.
** Made even more telling when in the very ''[[AesopAmnesia next]]'' episode, Paige abuses magic for her own personal gain, which naturally ends up going horribly, horribly wrong. However this time, everyone [[WhatTheHellHero calls her out]] on her reckless behaviour and Phoebe is understandably livid.
* ''Series/{{Community}}'': In the second season, a recurring plot arc was Pierce Hawthorne's increasingly {{Jerkass}} behaviour towards his friends, which eventually reached a point where they were debating whether to throw him out of the group or not. However, while Pierce was shown to be unreasonable and cruel with many of his actions, he was also shown to make the entirely valid point that one of the main reasons that he was acting out in this fashion was that his supposed friends weren't actually that much nicer or better towards him in many ways, often deliberately excluding, mocking or ignoring him. While Pierce is the group's {{Acceptable Target|s}} in that he's a racist, sexist jackass, his friends were forced to concede that in several ways he had a point. However, the trope is played with in that Pierce is ''also'' forced to concede the point that it's in many ways his own fault he's excluded in the first place.
* ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'':
** "Whisper to a Scream" is a great example. Ellie, a {{Goth}} ZenSurvivor, is the only character all season who has been able to stand up to Paige [the AlphaBitch]. The episode starts with Ellie fighting Paige's latest scheme...then, due to trouble at home, Ellie begins cutting herself. Paige finds out and tries to help her get counseling.
** There was also a much less serious episode where Emma has her first period, and Paige tries to convince her that it's great because "You'll get boobs now" And "Boobs aren't that bad... they're really great actually."
** From our other AlphaBitch, Holly J, we get a few moments where she gives 'advice.' The first is after Mia finds out Sav likes Anya ("We need men, not boys."), after her {{fall|enPrincess}} she gives advice to Spinner and Jane in season 8. Season 9 she has a wonderful scene with shades of the Paige Emma discussion telling Clare that having a impure thoughts isn't bad... so long as it doesn't lead to kissing the neck of Holly J's boyfriend.
** Mrs. Torres, oh wow. She's mad at [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Snake]] because her son was shrinkwrapped to a pole. Then she's mad at Snake because her other son [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} who she still isn't quite used to not being her daughter]] was the victim of a hate crime in school. By this time she's probably wondering what kind of school he's running. Then Vegas Night happens...
** Another example involving Paige happened in the episode "I Want Candy". Ashley would not get out of bed to go to school after Craig cheats on her with Manny (several months after it's already happened). In an effort to try and cheer her up, Paige and Spinner skip school and take her out on the town. Of course, Ashley does nothing but whine the entire time. Finally, Paige gives Ashley a WhatTheHellHero speech, telling her that while what Craig did to her was wrong, he was not the issue. The real problem was Ashley because she wouldn't move on with her life.
** Bianca's gotten her fair share in, pointing out that while she did steal Drew from Alli, it wasn't as bad as Alli kissing Clare's ex-boyfriend/current step-brother. Since Alli is Clare's best friend she should know better, Bianca has no such loyalty to break. Later on she sets Jake straight that no matter what Clare says, she's not going to be able to separate the sex from the romance she has building in her head, and if he sleeps with her he's royally messing her up. Bianca didn't choose the ''nicest'' ways to go about sharing these lessons, but she was right in both counts.
* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'': Doakes. He is convinced that something is off about Dexter, who is of course a serial killer. Dexter manages to make sure that no one ever knows he's right however.
* ''Series/{{ER}}'': Dr. Romano often played this role.
* ''Series/{{Firefly}}'': The episode "Safe" has Jayne thrilled that Simon and River have gotten kidnapped, but he does make the point that not harboring fugitives makes their lives easier, and Zoe and Mal agree with that. Jayne makes a lot of points like this. In Joss Whedon's own words: "He's the guy who will say what everyone's thinking but are too polite to actually say it."
* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': In a show not short on utterly despicable characters, Walder Frey still ranks near the bottom. But when he voices all the same complaints fans had about the storyline of Robb and Talisa's marriage (throwing away his whole war campaign over a rushed and unconvincing case of "true love"), it's hard to argue.
* ''Series/GilmoreGirls'': In season six, Rory's ex-boyfriend Jess sums up most of what had been going wrong with the show at that point: Rory abandoning both her mother and college to hang out and party with her new boyfriend Logan and becoming a completely different person. Ironically, Lorelai had been afraid that too much of her parents' luxury would rub off and Rory and it turns out she was right. Rory brings this up to Logan, who retorts that he never forced Rory into any of it and he's basically right.
* ''Series/{{Glee}}'':
** This show is full of this and most of the Jerkass characters get one or more scenes where they get to tell one of the 'good' characters the plain truth and force them to address their problems.
** Sue Sylvester tells Will that he shouldn't use demeaning hairography in the glee club's set list. Later, Will thanks her and as required willingly shows her the set list which she promptly leaks to the competing schools.
** Quinn tells Rachel that Finn does not have the same dreams for the future as Rachel and as such she should stop pursuing him since they will just end up miserable. This makes Rachel realize that she has been too self-absorbed and has not really considered what Finn wants out of life and a relationship. She turned out to be right.
* ''Literature/GossipGirl'': Both Chuck and Blair often fill this role, telling the blunt and terrifying truth.
* ''Series/{{Homeland}}'': Majid Javadi all of people makes a good point in the season 3 finale when he tells Carrie [[spoiler:she got what she wanted: for everyone else to see Brody the way she did]].
* ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'': Lily had no right to break up many of Ted's girlfriends including Robin because they didn't fit her idea of the front porch test (where she, Marshall and Ted grow old together). However she brings up a good point that she probably saved Ted thousands of dollars from an expensive wedding where he would have married one of these girls and inevitably gotten a messy divorce. She also brought up how, if Ted and Robin didn't break up, they would have remained together but their relationship would have deteriorated and they wouldn't be BetterAsFriends as they are now.
* ''Series/LizzieMcGuire'': Late into this show, the WillTheyOrWontThey between Lizzie and Gordo was getting unbelievably tedious so Lizzie ''finally'' got a SorkinRelationshipMoment... from [[AlphaBitch Kate]].
* ''Series/{{Lost}}'': Christian Shephard was a complete dick in most of his flashback appearances, often acting like a self-involved jerk. But when he tells his daughter Claire that its not right to keep her mother on life support solely because she is not ready to let her go, its kind of tough to disagree with Him. Most of his advice to Jack is like this too.
* ''Series/MadMen'': Joan Holloway gets to hand out a lot of this. So does Bobbie Barrett.
* ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'': Lois and Hal [[ItWasHisSled revealing their grand scheme for Malcolm's life]] will come off to many as little more than the big KickTheDog finale, but if you think about it, it might actually not have been so much if only they were a lot more reasonable about it towards him. Given how Malcolm consistently exceeded their expectations of him, it indeed would be a waste of potential for him to not even ''attempt'' to become a big name like the president. It just is a jerk move for them to expect him to solve all their problems as president because most of their problems are self-inflicted.
* ''Series/{{MASH}}'': Frank was right when he warned Margaret that Donald might not be all that he seems. Yes, he said this in an attempt at getting into her pants, but in the end, Donald was revealed to be cheating on Margaret, stealing her money, and finally requested a transfer behind her back, leading to their divorce.
* ''Series/MastersOfHorror'': Annie's father in the episode "Cigarette Burns". Kirby treats him like an unreasonable jerkass, but Kirby did get his daughter killed by indulging her drug habit, abysmally failed to get her on the right track despite agreeing with him to do so, is still massively in debt to him, and just evades him whenever the topic of repaying the loan comes up. [[spoiler:It's only when he resolves to kill Kirby that he crosses the line into outright villainy.]]
* ''Series/MondayMornings'': Dr. Hooten. Sure, he may be extremely harsh on the doctors at the hospital but he does it because they are doctors and they need to be kept in line.
* ''Series/{{Revolution}}'': ZigZaggingTrope for Miles. He often calls out Charlie for her attitude problems/questionable decisions ([[Recap/RevolutionS1E3NoQuarter Episode 3]] and [[Recap/RevolutionS1E5SoulTrain episode 5]] are examples of these). While these are generally accurate assessments from a viewer standpoint, no one in-story seems to agree with them. Fortunately, Charlie does improve on her attitude after [[Recap/RevolutionS1E6SexAndDrugs episode 6]].
* ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'': A teen is admitted to the hospital and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Dr. Cox]] is assigned to treat her. When he learns that [[TooDumbToLive she willingly stopped taking the medicine she needs to survive]] he lays into her. The plot treats him as the bad guy, because even if she is an idiot, that's because she's a teenager, and a treating doctor should know better than that.
* ''Series/SpartacusBloodAndSand'': In the season 1 finale, Oenomaus angrily calls out Ashur for his cowardice, dishonorable tactics, arranging Barca's murder, ruining Crixus and Naevia's relationship, and other slights. Ashur retorts that ever since he arrived in the ludus, everyone gave him a hard time: repeatedly calling him a wimp and a coward even though he won a few matches, and making fun of him when Crixus crippled his leg, so [[ThenLetMeBeEvil why shouldn't he try to ruin their lives?]]
-->'''Ashur''': My fucking treachery? When did YOU stand forth for Ashur? When did ANY OF YOU GREET ME SHORT OF MOCKERY, AND SCORN?!?!! FUCKING CUNTS!!!
** Made all the more poignant in ''Series/SpartacusGodsOfTheArena'', where we see exactly how the other gladiators treated Ashur, and that Ashur and Crixus had almost been friends.
* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
** Odo being saved by advice from Quark in one episode.
** Garak to Sisko in "In the Pale Moonlight".
** In the "Chimera" episode, Laas repeatedly tells Odo things he'd rather not hear. For example, while he's ''not'' tactful about it, Laas does bring up legitimate concerns about [[InterspeciesRomance Odo and Kira's relationship]]. He reminds Odo that Changelings cannot reproduce with humanoids, which ruptured Laas' relationship with his former Varalan mate. Also, he warns Odo that if he remains with Kira, he will watch her grow old and die because of Changelings' long lifespans. Laas also points out that it is [[MoralityChain Kira]], not duty or morality, that prevents Odo from leaving Deep Space Nine and reuniting with the Changeling Founders.
-->'''Odo:''' I won't have anything to do with the Founders and their war.
-->'''Laas:''' Odo, we linked. I know the truth. You stayed here because of Kira. If it weren't for her, you would be with our people. War or no war, you would be a Founder!
*** Odo eventually takes heed once he finds a significant reason to return to his race: [[spoiler: to spread a cure for the plague dooming his race and, in doing so, temper their animosity towards the Federation.]]
** In "The Siege of AR-558", Quark's comments about humans to his nephew Nog don't seem so unreasonable when you remember [[BlackAndGrayMorality just how much dirty work]] our heroes have done up to this point in the Dominion War.
*** And then he discovers ''why'' they seem that way: when he comes under fire, Quark discovers that, when it's a matter of life or death, Ferengi are NotSoDifferent.
** In an earlier episode, he says that the reason humans hate Ferengi is because Ferengi culture is everything that humans think that they abandoned, that the Ferengi are a living reminder of everything bad they used to be. The thing is, that he's ''absolutely right'' from a behind-the-scenes perspective. The Ferengi were created as a statement on twentieth-century earth culture taken to an extreme, to show how much better and more enlightened humans have become since then... but his statement proves especially haunting over the course of the series as characters are forced to abandon high ideals as the realities of war set in.
** Not only that, But for all of the times everyone puts the Firengi down, we have this from a season two episode.
-->'''Quark:''' I think I figured out why Humans don't like Ferengi.
-->'''Sisko:''' Not now, Quark.
-->'''Quark:''' The way I see it, Humans used to be a lot like Ferengi: greedy, acquisitive, interested only in profit. We're a constant reminder of a part of your past you'd like to forget.
-->'''Sisko:''' Quark, we don't have time for this.
-->'''Quark:''' You're overlooking something. Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi: slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars. We have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We're nothing like you... we're better.

* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''
** After four years of Vulcans stonewalling and withholding knowledge in human space exploration, Soval explains to Admiral Forrest that Vulcans see all too many similarities between their own violent past and humanity's--except that it took Vulcans 1500 years to pull themselves together and humans have managed it in about 100. Which makes Vulcans worry what humans might be capable of in the ''next'' hundred years.
* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': The Trickster/[[spoiler:Gabriel]] was a big one. Sure, his method was cruel (a time loop within which Dean died every day, and Sam couldn't save him), but he did have a point: Sam had to accept that Dean was going to die, and that sacrificing themselves for each other isn't a good idea. [[spoiler:Not that it stopped them...]]
* ''Series/TheWalkingDead'':
** There's Daryl. He may be a caustic redneck, but he is usually the only one of the group to recognize the gravity of their situations.
** Shane as well, if it's closer to "The Psychotic Jerkass Has A Point". He warns Rick that the member of a rival gang they captured could lead people to their location if he was released, and since they have guns and their location is not fortified and a lot of people, especially the women, don't know how to defend themselves, it would be disastrous. Rick himself cannot even raise a good logical argument against this and eventually folds. Then he finds himself unable to pull the trigger and refuses to do so or let anyone do so when the resident moral compass of the group is killed after lodging his objections. Shane rightly points out that the two are unrelated and that keeping Randyll around and wasting resources on him while increasing the likelihood that people will grow lax with regards to security and let him escape is a bad idea. And sure enough, when Randyll gets free he shows that he knows where the farm is, relative to his group's position even though he was blindfolded for a while. He also points out just how dangerous it is to have a barn full of walkers in their midst, and a bunch of people that think that they're human.
*** This is lampshaded by Andrea when she tells him that he's frequently right about things (The Sophia search going on too long and his treatment of the zombies in Herschel's barnn are other instances) but he's far too nasty in the way he prents his views so people don't listen to him.
* ''Series/TheWire'': William Rawls is a complete asshole that openly hates protagonist Jimmy [=McNulty=]. [[spoiler: But, when [=McNulty=]'s partner is shot, Rawls makes it a point to tell Jimmy that the shooting wasn't his fault]].
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* Omega Zell from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'' has that trope written all over him, sometimes overlapping with EveryoneHasStandards. He may be a misogynist in addition to his jerkassery, but his criticism is sometimes for [[DirtyCoward genuinely]] [[ManipulativeBastard unacceptable]] attitudes on the part of his female acquaintances, and occasionally the male ones.
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* ''Theatre/LegallyBlonde: TheMusical'': AlphaBitch Vivienne tells Elle to return to the trial after vowing not to practice law all around.
* Subverted in ''Theatre/{{Thirteen}}'' when Lucy tells Kendra she should thank Evan for getting Kendra and Brett back together [[spoiler: But really. [[TheChessmaster Lucy set the whole thing up]] so that she could be with Brett. It's a case of ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin]].
* The Witch of ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' has this effect on the characters; regardless of whether they say so aloud, they are visibly humbled by the [[BreakThemByTalking breaking speech]] that is "Last Midnight", in which she [[WhatTheHellHero calls them out]] on the fact that their wishes and carelessness got them in the trouble they're in now.
* Freddie Trumper of ''Theatre/{{Chess}}'' is correct in his assertions that his reputation as the bad boy of chess have help to renew public interest in the game. [[spoiler: He later helps Anatoly realize that winning the championship is his only chance to redeem himself.]]
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* In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Justice For All'''s second case, it's strongly implied that [[DrJerk Dr. Grey]] is right and that Mimi Miney was, in fact, at fault for the malpractice incident that killed fourteen patients, as Phoenix says near the end of the trial. While Dr. Grey ultimately isn't the one on trial, [[spoiler:it does shed light on his killer's motive]].
** There's many occasions in the ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' series when the Phoenix, Apollo or Athena will admit the prosecutor (be they whip happy, arrogant, a homicidal maniac or just a plain jerkass) is making a valid point. In "Justice For All," Phoenix spends most of the game seeing prosecutors as arrogant individuals who do nothing but obstruct his efforts to defend the innocent even when they should know that the defendants aren't guilty (although his feelings over Edgeworth's disappearance and return are partially influence this), but after [[spoiler:he's blackmailed into defending a guilty client while Maya's life is threatened, and his ability to TakeAThirdOption is in no small part due to Edgeworth and Franziska's help]], he becomes somewhat more open-minded regarding the prosecution.
* In ''VideoGame/SaintsRow 2'' there is your former leader Julius. Before he is killed in the epilogue, he states that the reason he left the Gang and had you set up to die on the boat is because of how far the gang derailed off his vision of solving the ongoing gang wars in Stillwater, contributing to the problem in the process. Even going on to say they were now just "Vice Kings who wore purple". Considering how downhill it went for the gang after the second game when the Playa takes over you, can't really blame him for trying to put an end to his gang.
* Unintentional example at the beginning of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'': Mido refuses to let Link see the Great Deku Tree until Link gets a sword and shield. While Mido was doing it just to be a pest to Link and bar his way like a schoolyard bully, the sword and shield do turn out to be necessary both to kill the Deku Babas on the way to the Great Deku Tree and to kill the enemies inside of the Great Deku Tree. This "point" is so good that even [[NiceGirl Saria]] agrees with it.
* Severa, one of the children from the BadFuture in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', [[SpoiledBrat loves to be spoiled]] and [[GoodIsNotNice harsh]] towards others. It rubs many of the children, as well as whoever her father is, the wrong way, but in the end, some of her criticisms are true in form. One thing she addresses with [[LovableCoward Yarne]] is how his cowardice harms others. There's also the fact that her mother, Cordelia, is [[AllLoveIsUnrequited still smitten and heavily devoted to Chrom]], no matter who she marries, and it had a bad effect on Severa[[note]]How the husband is affected depends on who it is; sometimes Cordelia will try to cast away her feelings for him, if she marries Gregor for example, while she will keep holding a flame for him, if she marries Frederick. Either way, her devotion to Chrom will still exist.[[/note]] According to her, in the BadFuture, their last argument before [[spoiler:Cordelia died]] is Severa calling her out on how she still [[NeverLiveItDown dotes on Chrom despite never acting on her feelings.]] Even when they try to bond after Severa and the other children travel to the present, Cordelia never [[WhatTheHellHero seems to pick up on how her love for Chrom affects her daughter.]]
* In ''Franchise/MassEffect'', the turian councilor is the only council member who thinks it plausible that Matriarch Benezia would be willing to murder her own daughter. He's right - [[spoiler:because of indoctrination]], she is. The turian councilor also is the most staunchly opposed to [[PlayerCharacter Shepard's]] insistence that [[EldritchAbomination the Reapers are coming.]] [[HiddenDepths Interestingly, the turian councilor ends up being the first member of the council to actually go to Shepard when the Reapers finally arrive.]]
** The sequel also has an instance with Quarian Admiral Zaal'Koris, who is entirely distrustful of both Tali and her father trying to get the family exiled. However he's also the only member of the Admiralty board who opposes going to war with the geth and sees them as another sentient species, with the quarians also largely to blame for what has happened. If you speak to him during the trial, he will explain his position in detail and tell Tali that he has no personal vendetta against her or her father: he is just doing what he thinks needs to be done for the good of the quarian people. Tali responds with "I do not agree, but I understand." He [[TookALevelInKindness takes a level in kindness]] in the third game, and is even integral in [[spoiler: bringing a peaceful solution to the quarian/geth conflict]].
** If you sacrificed the Council in the first game, in the third, the new council reminds you of this while refusing to divert resources from protecting their own homeworlds to help Earth. It's fairly presumptuous to expect them to help you after you betrayed their predecessors, possibly in order to allow humanity to take control of the Council.
*** Of course, [[SchrodingersGun this happens even if the old Council survived]], and in spite of your kindness they argue the pragmatic fact that with the Reapers focusing on Earth, they can use the time they have to start defending their own borders. Which is, to a degree, another case of this trope. Many fans have been annoyed with Shepard's obsession with Earth and pointed out that Earth isn't the only important planet in the galaxy and that it makes sense trying to save what can be saved and pile resources instead of wasting them trying to regain lost causes. The main problem in their plans was that the Council didn't sufficiently support the Crucible.
** The salarian Dalatrass is so much against curing the genophage in the third game that she will withdraw support for the war against the Reapers if you do. She is clearly in the wrong if you have [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Wrex]] in charge of the krogans. However, if [[BloodKnight Wreav]] is in charge, it's revealed that after the war ends, he's building up an army to wage war on the galaxy, essentially restarting the Krogan Rebellion.
*** Her arguments makes sense even if Wrex is in charge. He is just one (admittedly badass and level-headed) man, and the krogan population would skyrocket into the extreme and risk becoming uncontrollable due to sheer overpopulation.
** Tela Vasir, the asari Spectre from ''Lair of the Shadow Broker'', gives Shepard an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after [[spoiler: they kill her for working with the Shadow Broker]], saying they're hypocrites for judging her after everything they've done working with Cerberus. If you've spent the series playing your Shepard as a renegade, chances are this will hit even closer to home, but even for some paragon Shepards it can be a particularly nasty KickTheDog moment.
* Dishonourable nobles in ''VideoGame/MountAndBlade'' aren't particularly nice. They're backstabbing, warmongering, and quarrelsome. However, "honourable" characters are still perfectly willing to raid caravans and torch enemy villages. If you take the honourable option and allow defeated enemies to walk away, your dishonourable allies rightly ask whether your honour will be much comfort to the orphans and widows caused because you let a general out to rebuild his army and keep going.
* This mixed with GoodIsNotNice is pretty much [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Jedi Master Vrook's]] entire characterization. He opposes the training of the PlayerCharacter from the first [[spoiler: because re-training and trusting a mindwiped ''Sith Lord'' really is a bad idea]]. And in the second game, he's even less thrilled with the Exile, seeing her (or him) as a "mediocre Jedi" whose presence only brings disaster...and turns out right.
* In ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', Ghetsis says, "A Pokemon, even if it's revered as a deity, is still just a Pokemon!" After all the legendary Pokemon being called "gods", it's kind of nice to see someone who isn't falling for it. Even if he redefines "bastard". His point was that legendary Pokémon can still be defeated by regular Pokémon, which was the reason he was unconcerned about you obtaining the mascot right before he challenged you. Indeed, even Arceus can be captured and ordered around by a ten-year-old.
** A movie in the sequel has a scientist angry at the hero for making a {{Ridiculously Human Robot|s}} and spending all day playing with it instead of working on other projects and refusing to let anyone build another. While his actions are terrible, he was right that the lab had sunk a lot of money into that robot that was earning them nothing and their head scientist was costing them funding by refusing to work on anything else.
* In ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'', when Hisao suggests that [[JerkAss Jigoro]] [[AbusiveParents Hakamichi]] could visit his daughter Shizune, Jigoro counters by, among other things, asking when the last time Hisao has called his parents was. Hisao concedes that he has not made much of an effort to keep in touch with them, although he hates Jigoro enough to be tempted to punch him in the face.
** Interestingly enough, Jigoro does appear to take Hisao's comment to heart, since he appears at Yamaku later in the route... [[PetTheDog To ask Shizune if she wants to go fishing with him]]. He's still a huge ass while asking it, but it does show that the above comment was just an attempt to change the subject and avoid thinking about it. It obviously didn't work.
** In Rin's route, [[spoiler:Nomiya]], while not originally a JerkAss, asks Hisao at one point while arguing over whether it was right to [[spoiler:let Rin walk away from the exhibition]] whether he has anything comparable to Rin's passion for art. Hisao is forced to concede that he does not.
* ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Gaiden'' has long strings of this trope by Tetsuya Tsurugi from ''Anime/GreatMazinger''. Throughout the course of the game, he basically trash talk both the heroes and the villains, and pointed out the flaws on their structures and performances in an increasingly Jerk-ish way. The problem is, he is completely spot on with every single one of his statements, which includes the fact that the Heroes has a rather ineffective ways to handle the situations, some of the teams has a leadership problems, the fact that Koji relied way too much on his Grandfather's Mazinger, and on top of it, a GameplayAndStoryIntegration comment of a big mistake made by [[MobileSuitGundamWing Duo and Quatre]] that nearly resulted in the death of the whole team.
* In ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'', Gravedigger Shen is an unpleasant person who seems to have no morals to speak of, selling the possessions of those buried in his graveyard. You may be inclined to believe Miss Chen's claim that he killed her baby after she [[DeathByChildbirth died in childbirth]]. But you hear from him that the baby also died, and if you show her to his grave, Miss Chen realizes the truth and is calmed enough to pass on.
* An interesting example in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'': large parts of the fandom view Marche as a VillainProtagonist who is trying to forcibly destroy Ivalice, a world where his friends and his brother are happy because they can escape some of their problems in the home world. Whichever side the player might personally side with (whether they view Marche as right or wrong), both "wrong" sides make some very good points. If Marche is in the right, the royal forces, Ritz, and others are still very much correct when they claim that it's easy for Marche to want to go home - he doesn't have to deal with the same problems and bullying, or inability to walk (in his brother Doned's case) that his friends do, although as Marche admits to himself before the battle with Mateus, he too has problems that he faces in the real world. Further driving their point home is the argument that if Marche really cared for them, he wouldn't actively try to destroy a world that makes them happy. On the other hand, even if Marche is the real bad guy, he is absolutely correct when he claims that his friends, especially Mewt, are just using Ivalice as a way to avoid handling their real-world problems in any constructive way. [[spoiler: In the long run as shown in the Epilogue, Marche turns out to be correct.]]
** In-universe, Ritz concedes that the game must eventually end, but says she [[spoiler:will fight Marche to stop him from reaching Ambervale]] because she isn't quite ready yet.
* In ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', while some players dislike Taran Zhu for his hostility toward the Alliance and the Horde, he turns out to be right that their continuing their war in Pandaria is a bad thing, for a few reasons. 1)It empowers the Sha, which feed on various negative emotions and as such, both encourage and grow stronger through conflict. 2)It weakens their efforts against those who are enemies to both factions and all of Pandaria, such as the resurrected Thunder King. 3)[[spoiler:Garrosh's unearthing the Heart of Y'Shaarj devastates the sacred Vale of Eternal Blossoms]].
** Except that's ''not'' the point players consider him a {{Jerkass}} for. The general problem people have with the guy is that he constantly lectures Alliance and Horde alike for fighting ''at all'', dismissing their struggle as a "petty race war", even though at that point, the Alliance was fighting solely ''to protect themselves'', plus the fact that they've done their best to trust the Horde on at least two major occasions, and got severely burned each time.
*** Severely burned may be too harsh a word for it, considering the circumstances. The main plot point in Mists of Pandaria that ignited the Alliance-Horde conflict to monumental proportions was the "Divine Bell" fiasco. In the Horde version of the questline, Garrosh Hellscream, the Horde Warchief [[spoiler:at the time]], seeks the Bell for it's ability to cleanse those within it's ringing of all negative emotions. It gets found and hidden by the Alliance first, in Darnassus, the Night Elf capital. The Sunreavers, a Horde-aligned primarily Blood Elf representative in Dalaran, institutes a plan (using the player)to steal the Bell from within. Finding out about the Sunreavers apparent betrayal, the leader of Dalaran and head of the Kirin Tor (the most powerful association of Magi) Jaina Proudmoore (an Alliance supporter, but favored fostered friendship between the factions), loses her cool demeanor and rounds up all the Sunreavers in Dalaran to have them imprisoned.
*** The head of the Sunreavers, Aethas, pleads with the Blood Elf leader, Lor'themar Theron, that he had no clue about the plans and that it was personal supporters of Garrosh that caused it all. Garrosh misuses the Bell, causing it to amplify the Sha corruption in the soldiers and lieutenant he had brought with him to test it. Anduin Wrynn, son of the Alliance leader Varian, leads the player (in the Alliance version of the quest) to try and stop him. Anduin succeeds in making Garrosh destroy the Bell, but is seemingly crushed as a result. After you're helped out of there, you discover Anduin is alive, only barely. When Varian finds out, he launches into a tirade and embraces Jaina's recommendation that the Horde must be dismantled. Following a run-in with Lor'themar during the fight against the Thunder King Lei Shen, Jaina discovers that the primary leaders of the Horde (Lor'themar, Sylvanas, Baine, Vol'jin, and Gallywix) don't support their "Warchief".
*** During this time, Garrosh attempts to have Vol'jin, the person who distrusts him the most, killed. Through the player's actions they are able to save him, but Vol'jin decides to use this opportunity to make his plans in secret with Garrosh thinking he's dead. Following the event with Anduin & the Bell (from which he makes a full recovery), Varian learns a valuable lesson about patience and being a King from the Pandaria personification of Hope, the Red Crane Chi-Ji. This knowledge mellows him out to be less brash and more intelligent about his decisions.
*** Garrosh (yet again through the player's action) discovers the literal heart of the Sha corruption, the heart of the Old God Y'shaarj. He pushes it into the pure waters of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms, destroying most of the Golden Lotus faction and ravaging a good portion of the land. Following a run-in with Taran-Zhu, the leader of the Shado-Pan (a pseudo-military force in Pandaria) and a vocal supporter of the Alliance & Horde taking their conflict elsewhere, Garrosh dispatches (but doesn't kill) him easily, and challenges the world to end his reign as Warchief of the one True Horde. After taking Garrosh out of power in the Siege of Orgrimmar raid, the player is treated to a cutscene from different perspectives, based on Alliance or Horde, with both sides having all their race leaders respectively, with Thrall assisting the Horde and Jaina helping the Alliance.
**** Alliance: [[spoiler:Varian & Jaina watch the Horde correspond with one another, and Jaina prods Varian to "dismantle" them now, before they become a threat again. He approaches the group and demands to talk to their Warchief. The group spreads to reveal Vol'jin, the troll leader. After a glance at Thrall, the previous Warchief, he goes with it and states that this kind of thing will not happen again and warns them that the next time won't be so merciful, and departs.]]
**** Horde: [[spoiler:Thrall and Vol'jin reflect on what has happened recently, with Vol'jin stating that they need a new Warchief. Thrall states that Vol'jin was the one to keep the rest of the Horde together, and was more than befitting to lead. The rest of the leaders bow in agreement, and Vol'jin promises he will do his best. Like in the Alliance version, Varian approaches the group and demands to talk to their Warchief. The group spreads to reveal Vol'jin, the troll leader. After a glance at Thrall, the previous Warchief, he goes with it and states that this kind of thing will not happen again and warns them that the next time won't be so merciful, and departs.]]
* ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'': Luke might be an entitled jerk to everyone, inviting plenty of teasing and mockery, but he makes a very good point as to why picking on his lack of general world knowledge is [[DudeNotFunny over the line]]:
--> '''Luke:''' I didn't have time for any of that! I had other things to learn. Like ''my parents' faces!''
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* ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'': When Kharisma leaves the medicaid company at which she works with Davan, she advises him to get out, telling him that he can do better and that she wouldn't wish the job on her worst enemy.
** Davan himself is the living embodiment of this trope; for that matter, his father Fred is too.
* In ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'', [[http://www.misfile.com/index.php?page=1188 Emily ends up calling Molly for relationship advice]].
-->'''Molly:''' Now let's sit back, just us bitches and figure out how to fix this, 'cause being a bitch is kind of my thing, and two bitches is one bitch too many.
* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''
** [[BigBad Xykon]] delivers some foreshadowing to [[KnightTemplar Miko]] in [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0371.html "The Road to Heck"]], by way of paraphrasing Yoda: "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to suffering, and suffering leads to the Dark Side." [[spoiler:Minus the fear, that's just what happens to Miko later on.]]
** Several instances where [[SociopathicHero Belkar]] says something useful. In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0881.html "Temporary Weakness"]], Belkar gives a scathing and insulting speech to Roy, who is in a HeroicBSOD and strongly considering giving up after [[spoiler:Durkon gets turned into a vampire]]. Roy is initially [[{{Angrish}} too angry to form a proper sentence]], but reluctantly accepts Belkar's point and presses on.
** [[spoiler:Later on, after Vampire!Durkon rejoins the Order, Belkar [[EvenEvilHasStandards insists that they should stake him]] as soon as possible so they can resurrect him as a living dwarf later, because the vampire is not the dwarf they know. Roy refuses to do so until they have a way to resurrect him prepared, saying that the vampire dwarf is "Durkon enough for their purposes". Then it turns out that the vampire is ''not'' Durkon, but a dark spirit controlling his body for evil purposes, making Belkar right on both counts.]]
** Belkar earlier called out Hinjo on his HonorBeforeReason, claiming that his late uncle Shojo was a braver man since he was willing to sacrifice his own personal honor for the good of his city. Subverted a bit since Hinjo had already been convinced to retreat, so Belkar didn't really need to make that point. He was just being a {{Jerkass}}.
* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' got pretty unpleasant Zulenna who habitually advocated Baron's dubious actions [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040312 including]] imprisonment of "Othar Tryggvassen, [[foldercontrol]]

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". Agatha and other students ignored this. The guy turned to be more or less as much heroic as he pretended to be... and [[HeroAntagonist a dangerous nutcase]] as a bonus. Zulenna generally has a point any time she is not posturing.
* This is a trait of Mike from the Webcomic/WalkyVerse. He seemingly exists solely to make others miserable, but on a few occasions he has done so by pointing out when they are being hypocrites or making bad decisions. Who cares if it causes CharacterDevelopment in the long term, as long as it makes them suffer in the short term he seems fine with it.
* ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'': As part of the GreyAndGrayMorality, this pops up quite a bit. The Kyorl'solenurn, for instance, are surprisingly justified in their extremism against the tainted, especially after recent revelations [[spoiler:like the fact that most tainted have been given intentionally faulty demonic seeds that will kill them within 50 years]]. Quain'tana also has some of this, since while a terribly abusive parent and all around not very nice person she does make good points, especially when it comes to the Sharen, who [[DramaticIrony the readers]] know are not what they seem at all. This also applies to her interactions with her daughter Mel, who has twice tried to claim submission to her mother, but Quain doesn't buy it, and we [[DramaticIrony the audience]] know that she's actually right to not trust Mel since she was put up to it by the character who's effectively the BigBad of the series.
* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Karkat]] has a problem: [[IHatePastMe he is constantly bickering with past and future versions of himself.]] He's berated for this by nearly everyone, including [[ThePollyanna Jade.]] But when Jade has to deal with a incessantly whiny version of herself for reasons that would take hours to explain, Karkat pulls this one on her.
-->'''CG''': IF I RECALL, IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO FROM EITHER OF OUR PERSPECTIVES THAT YOU WERE RIPPING ON ME AND MY SMUG WINDBAG FUTURE SELF FOR ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER
-->'''GG''': oh come on...
-->'''GG''': this is NOTHING like that!
-->'''CG''': HOW IS THIS NOT LIKE THAT
-->'''GG''': because she's...
-->'''GG''': well
-->'''GG''': she's ACTUALLY INSANE
-->'''CG''': OH I SEE, AND ALL THOSE IDIOT PAST AND FUTURE KARKATS WEREN'T???
** When undyingUmbrage tells Dirk that Lil' Cal is a juju who will only bring misery to everyone around him, Dirk just waves it off as more of uu's aggressive trolling. Unfortunately, he was telling the truth that time.
** When Meenah sees [[{{Jerkass}} Cronus]] verbally abusing Mituna, she rightfully calls him out on it. He counters that [[NotSoDifferent she's a hypocrite]] since, in an alternate timeline, she grafted him to her spaceship and artificially extended his life to use him as her ship's motor, which is much worse. She can't manage to come up with a good response to that.
* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' had [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/2002-11-20 a moment]] when [[OldSoldier Thurl]] actually said "[[AIIsACrapshoot The pesky little virus]] has a point, sir."
* In ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'', when Max Post argues for freeing the intelligent robots, [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2400/fc02381.htm the mayor points out that this will take billions of credits from the corporation that owns the planet and all the military equipment -- which will obviously calm everything down.]]
** Sam also pulls this on Florence - she might not ''like'' to be called a slave, but as Sam points out, she is one, as would be her children (which would belong to Ecosystems Unlimited as "derivative products"). Florence sees his point, which helps prompt her to become more proactive in helping other artificial intelligences receive full rights.
* Pintsize, resident extreme jerkass in ''Webcomic/QuestionableContent'', [[http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2646 speaks and acts for many readers here.]]
* In ''Webcomic/MenageA3'', Sonya is a drama-addicted StalkerWithACrush towards Zii, but pursues Gary for his sexual skills and to put one over on her rival Yuki, actively setting out to seduce him while he and Yuki are a couple; then, when Yuki drops Gary, Sonya gloats over her, and shortly afterwards dumps Gary (in mid-sex, even). [[VillainHasAPoint "Jerkass" may be an understatement with her]]. ''But'' -- she is completely correct in saying that the phallophobic Yuki is a lousy girlfriend for Gary or any other man, she is very happy to show Gary just how much better off he is dating someone who doesn't regularly kick him in the crotch, and she even tries to offer him good advice (which he, as ever, ignores) when dumping him. Even her attempts to seduce Zii away from Erik involve her shrewdly pointing out that Zii doesn't seem to find that relationship totally satisfying -- which, given her usual level of smarts, could also qualify as a case of DumbassHasAPoint.
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* [[http://www.youtube.com/user/CinemaSins YouTube user Cinema Sins]] often receives negative reception for mixing genuine goofs with opinion. Keep in mind, though, that some of the things he lists are really goofs (Captain America not having an ear radio, Bane entering a tunnel in daytime and coming out at night, etc.
* ''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd'': In character he may be a rude, vulgar and overly hostile [[AccentuateTheNegative negative nancy]] who takes video games [[SeriousBusiness way too seriously]], but that doesn't make his much-needed commentary on the constant wrongs of game and hardware developers throughout the history of the medium any less valid.
** This can apply to the CausticCritic trope as a whole. While the reaction one might have to them can range from mild annoyance to attempting to slit their throat while they sleep, their cynical attitude does allow them to point out valid flaws that other reviewers might overlook.
* ''GlobalGuardiansPBEMUniverse'': Achilles, leader of the titular superhero team, goes to his father for advice on his personal life all the time. His father, by the way, is Lord Doom, one of the setting's [[EvilOverlord world-conquering master villains]]. This is a slightly inverted example, though, because usually Achilles is the blunt antagonistic one (for a hero), and Lord Doom is generally urbane and polite (for a villain).
* In ''Website/TheOnion''[='s=] articles by Jean Teasdale, "Hubby Rick" is an interesting intersection of {{Jerkass}} and CloserToEarth. He spends most of his time at the bar, mainly because Jean's [[ItsAllAboutMe arrogant]] CloudCuckoolander behavior frustrates him; however, one article has her squirreling away money to "invest" (read: buy WesternAnimation/BettyBoop collectibles), and when Rick finds out he chews her out because they could use that money to pay their bills.
* ''[[WebVideo/ImAMarvelAndImADC Marvel and DC: Season 2 of After Hours]]'': As [[NormanOsborn the Green Goblin]] rightfully points out to SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's plan to [[NinetiesAntihero make every hero]] [[DarkerAndEdgier as dark as]] Franchise/{{Batman}}, even though he's a villain himself. [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy Not only will comics get boring]] since all the heroes are the same without LighterAndSofter heroes for contrast, the audience will get so bored to death that [[DrivenToSuicide they might as well kill themselves]].
* In Season 3 of ''WebVideo/MarbleHornets'', Tim finally calls out Jay for his actions, constantly interfering in the lives of others and [[DoomMagnet getting them ''involved,'']] while Jay does little besides filming it all. As out-of-it as Tim is, [[spoiler: and as crazy as he may be,]] he has a very good point.
* In WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}, [[TheScrappy Weiss]]- despite being an AlphaBitch who goes out of her way to insult others- frequently makes good points. Ruby ''is'' naive and inexperienced, and her impulsive nature ''does'' cause problems in battle, in addition to endangering Weiss (her combat partner). Whether this is [[GreyAndGrayMorality intentional]] or not isn't clear.
* Website/{{Cracked}}'s list of [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18499_the-5-biggest-assholes-who-ever-turned-out-to-be-right.html The 5 Biggest Assholes Who Turned Out to be Right]] gives us a number of TruthInTelevision examples.
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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Archer}}'''s cast consists of jerks. Smart jerks who will point out the flaws of something. For example, when Cheryl explains to Pam that her [[spoiler: brother is planning on having her thrown into a mental hospital to get her half of their inheritance,]] Pam says that this might not be such a bad idea, as Cheryl ''is'' mentally unstable and endangers everyone around her constantly.
* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'', Peter, under the influence of the symbiote, acts uncharacteristically abrasive to his friends. A speech from [[JerkJock Flash Thompson]] causes Peter to realize what a jerk he's been and cast off the symbiote.
-->'''Peter:''' OK, if ''Flash Thompson'' is making sense, something must be seriously wrong.
** Of course, symbiote-influenced Peter makes a good point during an angry rant directed at his friends; he ''does'' have a big hospital bill to pay.
** Overlaps a bit with JerkassWoobie, but Eddie Brock's increasing antagonism towards Peter stem from a combination of his [[DeathSeeker own issues]] as well as legitimate gripes towards Pete. In a few cases, he actually points out a few cases of Pete's recklessness (taking photos of the Lizard).
** Harry Osborn and Mark Allan are both more {{Jerkass Woobie}}s than full out jerks, but they give Peter rather reasonable points. Mark calls out Peter for his blatant ignorance of his sister's feelings, while Harry notes that Mark's addiction to gambling is something he has to confront on his own before anyone helps him.
* Eric in ''WesternAnimation/DungeonsAndDragons'' was set up as TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong, but if you're listening carefully, he's the only one in the party perfectly willing to call out Dungeonmaster over those dirty tricks and half-truths that get the party in trouble, and the only one to tell Hank that HonorBeforeReason may be a bad idea. Certain members of the writing staff have pointed out this was intentional; they didn't agree with this trope at all, and later episodes were more explicit about his pessimism being the right call (even if the moral guardians meant they still had to ignore him).
* On ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'', after the Flying Dutchman (the Bikini Bottom version of Satan) is ready to drag Mr. Krabs to Davy Jones' Locker for being greedy, Spongebob sticks up for his boss, wagering his own soul that Krabs is really generous. The Dutchman then offers Krabs a handful of pocket change in exchange for Spongebob's soul, which Krabs accepts without hesitation. Krabs gloats over the money, while the Dutchman departs with the sponge, causing Squidward to go ballistic. Normally Spongebob's sworn enemy, Squidward yells to Krabs, "I can't believe I'm saying this but how could you sell Spongebob for 62 cents?" Eventually, Squidward's words [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone makes Krabs see the light and he regrets his greedy ways]].
* The entire Cadmus story arc in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' centered on Cadmus' attempts to thwart the worst-case scenario of the league [[BewareTheSuperman taking over the world]] like their [[EvilCounterpart Justice Lord counterparts]]. Amanda Waller points out that the League has a KillSat, they ''have'' made some questionable decisions in the past, and there ''has'' been at least one reality they know of where the League overthrew the government (albeit to keep Luthor from wiping out all life on Earth out of sheer spite). Normal people ''don't'' have a way to defend themselves against a group of super powerful beings if it ever came down to it. In "Question Authority", Comicbook/GreenArrow lampshades the whole thing by saying that if the League ever decided to cross the line and become the Lords, there's nothing that the rest of the world could do to stop it. Green Arrow and the league's more grounded heroes were meant in part to keep the heavy hitters honest but they only served as the overall conscience against them JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, not an actual RestrainingBolt if they were to truly abandon their principles and attack the government.
* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''
** Eric Cartman gets this quite a few times throughout the series, when his twisted worldview is occasionally proven true. Usually PlayedForLaughs like most everything else in the series.
** [[AbusiveParents Stephen Stotch]] acts as the OnlySaneMan during the Muhammad fiasco.
** Craig lampshades in excess how the boys actually often bring a lot of their problems on themselves (and others around them due to their lack of consideration) throughout the entire "Pandemic" two parter.
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''
** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E6TheCutiePox The Cutie Pox]]", [[AlphaBitch Diamond Tiara]] probably only calls Apple Bloom out on her cutie marks [[spoiler:which were caused by Cutie Pox]] being fake in order to take her down a peg when a second one appears, since she hates [[HaveIMentionedIAmADwarfToday anypony]] taking the spotlight away from her. Still, she's 100% right, and even the teacher Cheerilee shares her skepticism.
*** She and her friend Silver Spoon get another moment of this in the Big Mac issues of the spin-off comic, asking him why he wears his big heavy yoke everywhere, even when he's not working.
** Fluttershy gets one herself in "Putting Your Hoof Down" when she talks about how Pinkie Pie and Rarity want "Pushover Fluttershy" back. Yeah, she was being mean about it, but it's been shown plenty of times before and since in which her friends will take advantage of her kindness. But really, Pinkie and Rarity were HAPPY that Fluttershy was finally standing up for herself. They only tried to put a stop to it when they saw Fluttershy had [[TookALevelInJerkass become needlessly vindictive and aggressive]].
** [[BigBad Queen Chrysalis]] also gets one when she brags to the cast that she managed to carry out her plan to take over Equestria even when Twilight Sparkle thinks something is wrong with Princess Cadance [[spoiler:who was actually Chrysalis herself in disguise]] thanks to all of Twilight's friends not believing her and coldly walking out on her when she tried to explain herself. It was at that point when the others have a JerkassRealization and apologize to Twilight.
* Red Arrow is a suspicious jerk towards Artemis in ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice''. Although Artemis probably isn't TheMole, Roy's lack of trust in her unfortunately does have some merit, since she is keeping secrets about her past from the team. Reaches a head in "Insecurity" when Roy's mistrust pushes Artemis to endanger the mission by trying to lead the rest of the team away from the targets just to have a chance to prove herself. This backfires immensely when the mission goes south and her deception is exposed. The same went for his suspicions of Superboy and Miss Martian. While not TheMole like he suspected, they, along with Artemis had information they were hiding from the rest of the team.
* Benson from ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'' seems to embody this trope. While he is hard on Mordecai and Rigby, his anger often comes from their slacker attitudes and desire to be cool, which tend to screw things up or prolong the time it takes to complete menial tasks..
* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'': Beast Boy, while being affected with the JerkassBall in "The Beast Within", also brings up the point that he's often disrespected, especially by Raven.
* When Bill Dauterive of ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' has a spike in blood sugar and is warned by his doctor that he's at risk of developing diabetes, he goes to another doctor who, despite being a smug, verbally-abusive prick, is pretty spot-on in identifying the problem and guessing both what will happen if Bill doesn't curb his unhealthy lifestyle and that he most likely won't.
--> '''Dr. Weissman:''' Did you talk to any other doctors before coming to me?
--> '''Bill:''' Well, yes.
--> '''Dr. Weissman:''' Did they tell you to diet and exercise?
--> '''Bill:''' Uh-huh.
--> '''Dr. Weissman:''' Did you '''[[ArmorPiercingQuestion do it]]?'''
--> '''Bill:''' Uh...
** While the doctor was correct on what would happen to Bill if he didn't change his lifestyle, the doctor barely gave Bill any additional help, assuming that Bill wouldn't bother to change, so he offered him a wheelchair to prepare for his diabetic life and what Bill construed as him eventually losing his legs regardless of what he does. [[LaserGuidedKarma Karma bites back when Bill not only manages to reverse his diabetic condition, but goes to the smug doctor and gives him a beating.]]
** To further add to this, when Hank and Bill finally confronted the doctor about what he said, the doctor backpedaled and said "N-no I said your legs could fail at some point, and I certainly didn't say anything that could constitute a malpractice suit."
* In the "Bend-Her" episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'', after Bender has a sex change, the female crew mates accuse of him of being a bad representation of their gender and [[GoldDigger dating a celebrity robot just for the sake of indulgence]]. When "she" questions whether they've really never done the same thing, they can barely muster up a denial.
-->'''Leela:''' That is so unbelievably manipulative.
-->'''Coilette:''' Come on! [[ArmorPiercingQuestion You never went on a date with a guy just 'cause you were hungry]]?
-->'''Leela:''' Well I, uh, I thought I might like him on a full stomach.
* In ''WesternAnimation/GoofTroop'':
** In "Big City Blues", Pete worriedly asks Goofy where the boys are, and Goofy wonders why he's asking him. The response "Because your kid's always getting my kid in trouble!" While Pete typically holds grudges against the Goof family for little reason, this statement is completely true--the {{Zany Scheme}}s are invariably Max's ideas and PJ is usually (including in this episode) TheDragAlong.
** In "Gymnauseum", one-shot antagonist Tan Roadster [[WhatDoesSheSeeInHim tells Peg she can easily do better than Pete]]. While his reasoning was [[UglyGuyHotWife fairly shallow]], and he is portrayed as less sympathetic than Pete was, [[NoAccountingForTaste Pete still has numerous personality flaws that make him less than an ideal catch]].
* An interesting two-way interaction occurs in ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' between Dinobot and Rattrap in season 2. When Dinobot's loyalty was challenged due to some of his questionable actions, Rattrap, up to that point, had been of the opinion that. "Oh sure, he's a [[{{Jerkass}} slag-spoutin' saurian]], but at least [[BrutalHonesty you know where he stands]]." After he walks away, Dinobot admits that snarky Rattrap has a point, too, that he had crossed the line. He then resolves to [[TheAtoner correct his mistake, no matter what it takes]].
* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'', the much hated Teenagers get to call out the KND when [[spoiler: they simply assume that their reunion at "The Point" has ulterior motives, without having actual proof… and it turns out that they just wanted to go to a rollerskating ring and have fun. Their night out is ruined, and they're '''pissed''' at the kids for a good reason.]]
* There's an episode of ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'' where Rolf needs Ed to babysit his farm animals. Ed ends up leading them into his (Ed's) house, tracking dirt all the while. Sarah yells at him that he can't keep the animals there. As obnoxious as she was about it, she was right. Ed should've kept them outside.[[note]]Then again, [[TheDitz Ed]] isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the socket...[[/note]]
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