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->''"VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII sucks and you suck for liking it!"''
-->-- '''Noah "''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment The Spoony One]]''" Antwiler'''

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To some people, there is only one thing worse than anything they consider horrible -- people ''liking it''.

In a nutshell, a Fan Hater is someone who hates the [[{{Fandom}} fans of a particular work]]. Often in a {{Hatedom}}, but not always.

The thing is that to these people, art is SeriousBusiness and they treat their enjoyment of art the way [[StopHavingFunGuys some people]] take to [[TournamentPlay competitive gaming]]. If you like anything not up to their standards, they will either mock you, mock that thing in front of your face, or just go on a diatribe about why you shouldn't like that thing. To make matters worse, they will also stereotype fans (e.g., anybody who likes comic books is an obese loser; anyone who likes anime is some annoying, anti-American, over-obsessive wannabe Japan-fetishizing freak; people who like cartoons are [[ManChild Man Children]]; [[DoubleStandard boys who watch]] [[GirlShowGhetto girls' cartoons]] [[UnfortunateImplications are gay]]; anyone who likes metal/punk is a wannabe tough guy or a pretentious hipster jackass; people who like rap are wangsters; etc.) and not fitting any of these stereotypes will induce either a NoTrueScotsman or they'll still find at least one thing they find negative and stereotype the fans of the work with said negative thing. Fan Haters tend to refer to the targets of their hatred as the "LowestCommonDenominator" or "unwashed masses".

Be warned some may pretend to be fan haters, but are in fact {{Troll}}s, which some find to be worse, depending on who you are.

A SubTrope of HateDumb and OpinionMyopia. The inverse is ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow.

Due to past messes, please avoid TakeThat statements, flame bait, "This Troper" blurbs, redundancy and [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment redundancy]].

!!Common forms of this trope:
* AdaptationDecay, in that they hate anyone who likes an adaptation that isn't the original version.
* AnimationAgeGhetto, in that they hate anyone older than 12 who watches anything animated.
* BrokenBase, in that the dissenters will hate the loyalists for not giving up on a particular series.
* ComedyGhetto
* DeadHorseGenre
* DeaderThanDisco
* FandomRivalry - In which one fandom hates another fandom, and vice-versa
* FanDumb
* GirlShowGhetto, in that they hate anyone who watches a cartoon not "intended for" their gender.
* HateDumb
* HypeAversion
* HypeBacklash - In which they hate a work simply because of the attention it has received or is receiving. A subset hates things that are critically-acclaimed.
* {{Hypocrite}}
* InternetBackdraft
* ItsPopularNowItSucks - In which a work is hated for having mass appeal, selling out and abandoning the "true fans".
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks - in which they hate you merely because you like something that they see as the same as something else.
* {{Jerkass}}
* MisaimedFandom - In which they hate you for liking something the "wrong way".
* PublicMediumIgnorance
* SciFiGhetto
* {{Scrub}}
* SeriousBusiness - The MST3KMantra most certainly does ''not'' apply.
* StopHavingFunGuys - In which you get hate for playing a game the "wrong way."
* All the TrueArt pages
* And especially GuiltyPleasures, because they'll try to make you feel guilty for it.

See [[Analysis/FanHater our Analysis page]] for more details.
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!!Administrivia/InUniverseExamplesOnly:

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[[folder:Anime and Manga]]
* ''Manga/LoveLucky'' has an in-universe example with Erika, the female lead singer of the rock band "M.I.T.", who is a self-professed hater of "normal people". This apparently arose from the way she was treated by the band's fans after she replaced the previous lead.
* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' has an in-universe case of this. In one of the episodes during the Buu arc before the World Martial Arts Tournament begins, Krillin comments on how he's unsure of who is more annoying: Mr. Satan or his fans.
** During the Cell saga Krillin also admited to cheering for [[BigBad Cell]] during Cell's [[PunchedAcrosstheRoom "fight"]] with Satan.
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[[folder:Fan Fiction]]
* ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is basically set in a world with this as its [[PlanetOfHats hat]]. There are but three sorts of people in ''My Immortal''-land; "goffs", "posers" and "preps". Being a "goff", which entails wearing black clothes from Hot Topic and listening to the emo bands the author likes, is the One True Path and everyone else sucks for existing. "Preps" are the unwashed masses who shop at Abercrombie & Fitch and worship BritneySpears. "Posers" are "preps" who try to be "goffic" but listen to the "wrong" music and are [[FelonyMisdemeanor thus evil]].
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[[folder:Film]]
* Rock fans vs. disco fans in ''Film/DetroitRockCity''.
** This one is based in reality. During the late 1970s there was a very real rivalry between rock fans and disco fans. The rivalry came to a head on July 12, 1979 (sometimes referred to as "the night disco died") during a baseball promotion called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night Disco Demolition Night]], which resulted in thousands of rock fans storming the field at UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}}'s Comiskey Park to express their hatred of disco. The event made news worldwide and less than a year later disco was effectively dead in the United States and Canada (although it would remain popular in Europe for another few years). See also: DeaderThanDisco
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[[folder:Literature]]
* There's a line in ''AmericanPsycho'' where Patrick mentions that no one should feel sympathy for the woman he's forcing into getting an abortion due to the fact that her favorite movie is ''Film/PrettyInPink'' and "she thinks Sting is cool."
* Rob Fleming from ''HighFidelity'' (Rob Gordon in TheMovie) questions how one can be friends with people whose favorite band are Music/SimpleMinds. One of the reasons why he dislikes Ian is because of that weird ethno music he listens to. And Barry chases a potential customer out of Rob's record store because he wanted to acquire ''I Just Called To Say I Love You'', a song from StevieWonder's [[TheEighties 80s]] pop period.
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[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
* If you like ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' or any {{JRPG}}s, then there is a 100% chance you will be hated by Adam and Morgan of ''XPlay''. They're also not fond of anyone who likes anime--which they in particular ''love'' to trash, most of their ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist'' and ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' game reviews are trashing the people who will flame them.
** Adam and Morgan (less and less as of late, as we might get two reviews in a week now) flame them because, as they've stated repeatedly, they get hate mail every time they review a JRPG or anime-licensed game, regardless of the actual score they give.
*** This is because they don't take criticism well. Look at the fights that erupted over the Mass Effect ending. Dealing with a divisive, popular topic is going to get you some measure of hate. Hurling insults back isn't going to make it go away. Because, at the end of the day, you aren't going to remember that they gave your favorite game a 4/5, you're going to remember that they made 3 jokes about you being an obsessive cosplaying otaku virgin in the space of 2 minutes.
* In ''{{Friends}}'', it's mentioned that Chandler once broke up with a girl because she didn't hate Yanni.
* Some random Fox affiliate ([[MisBlamed not Fox News]]) does not like [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic bronies,]] stating they're a bunch of [[ManChild manchildren]] who quit their jobs just to watch the show.
* In ''BigBrother'''s 11th American Season, four previous players were invited as "guests" to give their insight on the current game being played. Danielle stated that she wanted [[TheScrappy Natalie]] to win, and held up her hand to silence the audience, who begun to boo.
** Players have taken potshots at the fans of other players (or even previous seasons) but these have never made the feeds. There was also controversy in Season 13 where Jeff had gone off on a rant, not only insulting the premise of ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' but also taking a few potshots at the fans.
* In one episode of ''Series/{{Community}}'', Abed calls Shirley a terrible person for liking Brett Ratner's movies.
* On ''Series/TheMightyBoosh'', Vince Noir is the self-styled "King of the Mods". When he meets his friend's mentor, the mentor bursts out screaming "A mod?! I am a Rocker! He is a Mod! We are mortal enemies!" This doubles as a HistoricalInJoke which references the two sub-cultures clashing in 1960's England.
* In one episode of ''Series/{{Psych}}'', Shawn and Gus take on a client who's dying from polonium poisoning. Shawn repeatedly berates the poor guy for proudly stating that his favorite band is Music/DuranDuran.
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[[folder:Music]]
* The lyrics to Sloan's "Coax Me" include the line, "it's not the band I hate: it's their fans".
* In Music/WeirdAlYankovic's "Close But No Cigar", about a guy who [[MinorFlawMajorBreakup breaks up with women over minor flaws]], he breaks up with the second woman because she owns a copy of ''JoeDirt''.
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[[folder:Professional Wrestling]]
* This was Wrestling/MichaelCole's gimmick when he became a heel on ''Wrestling/{{WWE NXT}}'' and commentary. If the fans and the IWC loved it he would hate it (such as [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]],) and if they hated wrestling characters like Wrestling/VickieGuerrero, he would absolutely love them, [[{{Troll}} to piss off the fans.]]
* This is the gimmick of Wrestling/TheShield. If the fans want something and they have the opportunity to ruin it. They will every time, and call it "justice".
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[[folder:Videogames]]
* The Krunch radio station from the ''SaintsRow'' series is a hard rock and metal station that will frequently air this between songs:
-->"Do you like pop music? Go fuck yourself! 10[[NumberOfTheBeast 6.66]], Krunch!"
** That parodies the fan-pandering promos many radio stations use:
---> We only have the [music genre] ''you'' [Target Demographic] like, and everyone else can go to hell!
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[[folder:Webcomics]]
* The bug of ''Webcomic/{{Bug|Martini}}'' has a [[Literature/HowTheGrinchStoleChristmas Grinch]] persona [[http://www.bugcomic.com/comics/for-the-haters/ that is a fan hater]].
* As part of its increasing meta-ness, Act 6 of ''{{Homestuck}}'' introduces [[spoiler: undyingUmbrage]], who is basically a personification of the comic's fan haters. This includes the people who complain about their friends talking about ''Homestuck'' and trying to get them interested in it.
** This character is revealed to be [[spoiler: a younger version of Lord English]], who in the second intermission of Act 6 [[spoiler: murdered Homestuck author Andrew Hussie]].
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[[folder:Web Originals]]
* See this article from TheOnion: [[http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/man_who_enjoys_thing "Man Who Enjoys Thing Informed He Is Wrong"]]
* [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment The Spoony One]] made a series of videos talking about his hatred for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'', and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2''. This has caused Noah Antwiler (who plays Spoony) to take some real backlash, with him having to point out that Spoony is a character and not everything "he" says is Noah's real opinion.
** Then things got a little worse when Noah (not Spoony) disparaged Nintendo[[note]]Saying they needs to shut the doors on all of their primary franchises, especially ''Zelda'', which he calls [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks an unchanging series]][[/note]] and ''Film/TronLegacy''[[note]]Calling the movie crap and one of the worst films of 2010 and insulting anyone who liked it by saying they have low standards and are easily entertained[[/note]].
** He also said that if you like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'', you are lying to yourself.
*** Same with ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}}''.
* [[WingerDingerProductions Random DCE]] was known for this, especially in his early years. While he softened up in recent years, he still thinks [[AnimationAgeGhetto liking anime is]] [[EvenNerdsHaveStandards beneath him.]]
** Though he has admitted to liking some anime, such as ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', MegamanNTWarrior, BloodTheLastVampire, and StreetFighterIITheMovie. [[ItsPopularNowItSucks Maybe he just doesn't like the more well-known ones like Naruto]]?
* [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee]] is prone to doing this and he doesn't just hate one kind of gamer - he's hated on people who like {{Eastern RPG}}s, Western {{RPG}}s, Silent Hill fans (even he admits to doing so himself - he said his ''VideoGame/SilentHillOrigins'' review was mostly him crying) people who like ''{{Halo}}'', people who played ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', people who didn't play ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', console gamers, PC gamers, fans of point and click adventure games, people who own a Wii, fans of {{MMORPG}}s, Korean gamers, fans of sprite comics, fans of ''ControlAltDelete'', fans of ''VideoGame/TheSims'', Retro gamers, Indie gamers, people who hate retro, people who hate indies, JossWhedon, anyone who likes Joss Whedon, etc. In general, it's safe to assume that Yahtzee hates ''everyone'', and the sensitive souls who take it to heart aren't in for a good time. Unfortunately, people on Website/TheEscapist [[MisaimedFandom have somehow taken this mindset seriously]] and adopted it, and will sadly probably never ever enjoy a video game again.
** The biggest example is his ''Videogame/SuperSmashBros'' review. At least 60% of the review itself was saying "I do not like fighting games so I will [[DontLikeDontRead not show any interest in it]]" or hating on fans, then the following up video was fan hatred.
* MovieBob has frequently argued that his personal and private tastes are objective facts rather than subjective opinions, and uses this argument in an effort to ''justify'' hating not merely works of art, but people who like them. A large part of his considerable internet HateDom arises from fans invoking HePannedItNowHeSucks, and another part from being told that ''You'' Like It So You Suck.
* WebAnimation/MarioTehPlumber absolutely despises modern Sonic games as well as anybody who likes them, labeling them as "modern morons" and "hentai faggots".
* [[WebVideo/TheAmazingAtheist The Distressed Watcher]] made nine videos complaining about the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels; he often called the fans stupid.
** He also proclaimed that anyone who enjoyed ''TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'', even as a GuiltyPleasure, [[InsaneTrollLogic should be hauled into a concentration camp and killed]]. Keep in mind that Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, the website he posted this review on, has a respectable number of Jewish contributors, and Doug Walker, the face of the site, called the movie "enjoyably adequate." Probably not the best choice of words.
* [[Radio/TrueCapitalist Ghost]] does ''NOT'' like bronies.
** Neither much do the [[Blog/{{Bronyism}} Hijacker Trolls]]; although they hate [[Music/JustinBieber beliebers]] a lot more.
* Creator/BlackPawnMovement is made up of a group of fans and anti-fans of the series ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', dealing with the most obnoxious fans on Youtube. Since the Twilight hype has died down, they have been switching to music, such as Lady Gaga, Insane Clown Posse, and Justin Bieber.
* ''WebVideo/WhatTheFuckIsWrongWithYou'': Nash has quite the beef with [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Bronies.]]
* In the ''[[RedLetterMedia Plinkett Reviews]]'' of the ''StarWars'' Prequels he says that if you thought the prequels were "betterer" or were less "boringer" than the original then you're wrong.
* ''Website/GameShowGarbage'', a ''Website/{{WrestleCrap}}''-type site that focuses on {{Game Show}}s, recently featured the ''[[Series/ThePriceIsRight Price is Right]]'' fan site Golden-Road.net as one of their inductions. In the article, Robert Seidelman collectively dismisses the members of the community as FanDumb, accusing them of having overactive {{Nostalgia Filter}}s and being too quick to cry TheyChangedItNowItSucks. He also takes a milder swipe at the {{GSN}} message boards. The article eventually was toned down to be a little less harsh and remove attacks on specific members.
** Encyclopedia Dramatica also has an article bashing Golden-Road.net.
* It's pretty clear in his ''Turn Up The Music'' review that WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows hates Chris Brown's "Team Breezy" fans as much as (or possibly even worse than) Chris Brown himself, citing all the instances in which they wrote off the Rihanna scandal (or even worse, accused her of instigating it) and even admit that they'd let Chris Brown beat them (though he admits that at least some of the latter posts/tweets/etc are more than likely {{Troll}}s.)
* Subverted by Creator/DougWalker, who says that he actually wants to meet someone who liked ''Film/TheGarbagePailKidsMovie'' (cited by him as the worst movie he's ever seen) just so he can hear ''why'' they'd like it. He also has valiantly tried to get it into fandom's heads that this trope is awful.
** Despite that though, he has mocked fans of ''TMZ'' and ''Happy Madison'' for being unintelligent, and ''TheNostalgiaCritic'' being much worse with this in reboot despite coming round to Doug's POV in his SeriesFauxnale was called out by ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards Sage]]''. From commentaries, Doug also thinks ''PowerRangers'' fans are stupid, likes making ''ManOfSteel'' fans angry and doesn't like anyone who enjoys ''{{Devil}}''. ''Something'' has changed.
** Rob Walker, Doug's brother and co-writer, however, is by means not above this trope, especially towards fans of ''ManOfSteel''. He even insulted AngryJoe because he defended it, and attacking fans on Facebook who commented on the fact they enjoyed it, in one case even insulting one for '[[{{Hypocrite}} not being able to accept other people's opinions]]' when the fan called him out on insulting fans for liking it, without any sense of irony.
* WebVideo/ConfusedMatthew also seems to fit this trope. He seems to be unable to understand how anyone can like the certain movies that he absolutely despises (''Disney/{{The Lion King}}'' and ''2001: A Space Odyssey in particular''). And sometimes can (probably unintentionally) insult the fans of the movie that he's reviewing.
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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* In ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead'', they were watching a Music/BonJovi video. Beavis didn't think it was that bad, and Butthead kept smacking him for not thinking it sucked. Finally Beavis got fed up and [[GroinAttack kicked Butthead in the nuts]].
* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', the boys play ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' and stumble across another group of boys playing ''Franchise/HarryPotter''. Cartman scoffs, "[[HypocriticalHumor Fags!]]"
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