->''"We've got trouble, right here in River City, with a capital T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for 'pool!'"''\\
-- [[TheMusicMan Harold Hill]], on why a pool table is serious trouble.

Some MoralGuardians are so paranoid that they'll [[WindmillPolitical attack the most ridiculous things]], or [[{{Demonization}} will attack them in the most ridiculous ways possible]]. Essentially, they use InsaneTrollLogic to prove that something is TheNewRockAndRoll. There are a few favorite methods used:

* '''Excluded Middle Ground'''

[[FourTermsFallacy This type of thinking runs thus]]:
* Alice wears a shirt with a picture of X on it.
* X is used as a symbol of Y by Z.
* Therefore, [[HitlerAteSugar the X on Alice's shirt symbolizes Y]].

A common example is when they claim that pentacles must represent Lucifer, because Luciferians use a pentacle as a symbol. Following this logic, one could assert that the Darigold cow symbolizes Hinduism, or the Nazis stood for Buddhism.

Or similarly:

* Bob's middle name is Hikaru.
* "Hikaru" means "to light."
* "Lucifer" means "light-bringer."
* Therefore, "Hikaru" refers to Lucifer and Bob is Satan.

Never mind the distinct possibility that Bob is half-Japanese and "Hikaru" was chosen because it's a relatively common name that reflects Bob's Japanese heritage (maybe it was his grandpa's name or something); it ''must'' have been chosen to represent Lucifer! This is also funny because Light bringer has been used to describe Jesus, which brings a whole other set of implications further.

All those pretty colors and shapes? Those aren't just eye candy to captivate the show's hyperactive target audience - those are ''eeeeeeevil'' occult symbols!

* '''QuoteMine'''
Another trick is to take something nasty that a villain said or did [[QuoteMine out of context]], then insinuate that the source material [[ButNotTooEvil actually encourages that type of thing]]. This was done with the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books, with paranoid fundamentalists citing ''[[BigBad Voldemort's]]'' actions and words as "values" the book supposedly endorses.

* '''Devil Of The Gaps'''
Sometimes used against superhero and fantasy stories. The argument runs that if a source of what appears to be magical power is not explicitly explained or understood, then the power must come from Satan, and therefore the story is part of the Satanic agenda. A more likely explanation is that the writers intended the character to use a type of energy or {{phlebotinum}} that is as of yet unknown in our world, or that the power was intended to be a [[PowerOfLove metaphor]].

How absurd is this argument? Picture a medieval peasant coming forward in time to your home and declaring that you must be in league with the devil because you use an ungodly power to light your home, cook your food, wash your clothes, etc. This power is electricity, but to the medieval peasant's eyes, such power could have only come from the devil.

* '''Make Stuff Up'''
And finally, some of them ''[[{{Demonization}} just make crap up]]'', because their claims that such-and-such is an evil symbol of so-and-so has ''no'' historical basis whatsoever.

Expect a lot of sloppy research (especially YouFailLogicForever), DanBrowned, InsaneTrollLogic, CowboyBebopAtHisComputer, and CriticalResearchFailure among these people (many of whom believe that HollywoodSatanism is TruthInTelevision).

Some of these may be born via [[PoesLaw parody]], which the sufficiently naive will believe and spread as gospel truth.

See also EverythingIsRacist and PaedoHunt. Compare TheMoralSubstitute, HeteronormativeCrusader, WindmillCrusader, and InformedObscenity.

Not to be confused with EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory, although this trope could be seen as a negative version of that. (EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory is about people seeing symbolism and messages in stories where none exist. This trope is about people specifically seeing evil/Satanic symbolism and messages where none exist.)

!!Non-Fictional Examples


[[folder:Anime and Manga]]
* ''BladeOfTheImmortal'': The main character, Manji, takes the "crux gammata" as both his name and his personal symbol. As a symbol of prosperity and good fortune, the swastika was widely used throughout the ancient world. The anti-Semitic or pro-Nazi meaning did not exist until 1910.
** The swastika is still widely used in Hinduism (and Buddhism, to a lesser extent) as it was for thousands of years all over Eurasia before the Nazis appropriated it to their own use.
*** While certainly played straight often, the anti-Swastika sentiment is actually a subversion in many cases. A lot of people who do recognize when a Swastika is used regardless of the Nazi connotations of it will still want to limit its public perception, at least in their own communities, as Holocaust survivors may be traumatized by just seeing the image too much whether it was intended in its use or not. Even striped pajamas have caused issues occasionally, without anyone thinking they were anti-Semitic.
** Every volume of the US release explicitly explains right at the start that the symbol is ''not'' a Nazi swastika.
* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': The ''tsuba'' of Ichigo's bankai, Tensa Zangetsu, takes the shape of the kanji for ''manji'', referencing its meaning final. Since the manji resembles a swastika, some have taken to accusing ''Bleach'' of being pro-Nazi. Considering the chapter in which Ichigo activates his Fullbring ''is'' called "Swastika Break" and the villains of the most recent arc are a militaristic group of GratuitousGerman-spouting Quincies on a crusade...

[[folder:Comic Books]]
* This trope is basically the reason why UsefulNotes/TheComicsCode was created. In 1954, psychiatrist Fredric Wertham published a book called Seduction of the Innocent which argued that comics were a danger to children. It didn't help that there was a US Congressional hearing being held about comics at the same time. Before the MoralGuardians could crack down, the industry created the Comics Code itself. Eventually, someone actually went through Wertham's notes and [[https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140804/08494028095/learning-history-how-one-lying-liar-almost-screwed-comic-book-industry.shtml found that his book was actually one big load of crap.]]
* [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Adolf]] [[GodwinsLaw Hitler]] considered Franchise/{{Superman}} to be an honorary Jew. (Superman's creators were two Jewish boys, to be fair.) However, since the Nazis referred to non-Aryans as Untermenschen, or "sub-human", you'll encounter people who think Superman is Nazi-related. (One of those people was Frederic Wertham, who was very disturbed by the image of a "superman" wearing an "S" ''just like the Nazi SS!'')

* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' contains "witches". Centuries ago, "witch" strictly meant someone who made a DealWithTheDevil; therefore, even though the modern connotation of "witch" is simply "one who can do magic" and ''has nothing to do with Satanic origins'', the magic must be Satanic and encouraging kids to pursue the same! The sad thing is that even a half-close reading of the series shows many parallels with Christian doctrine and the Gospels, especially by ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]'', but the MoralGuardians just don't know when to stop! One criticized Voldemort's drinking of unicorn blood, claiming that the book was teaching children that they could gain immortality by drinking the blood of something that wasn't Jesus. Of course, they didn't mention the parts where it's explained that drinking unicorn blood is an atrocious thing to do and that while it will stop you from dying, you will live a cursed half-life.[[note]]John Granger's extensive research into the symbolism of ''Harry Potter'' goes a different route, pointing out that the unicorn has long been a symbol of Christ Himself... overthrowing that "something other than Christ" claim and furthermore nailing Voldy's act by calling up Paul's comments on "drinking [communion] in an unworthy manner."[[/note]]
** Not to mention that [[spoiler: Quirrell]] (Voldemort in the movie) says "There is no good or evil; there is only power, and those too weak to seek it." Horrible philosophy? Yes. That's why he's the bad guy.
** It's probably worth noting that some of the accusations that ''Harry Potter'' was turning kids on to witchcraft came from an ''[[TheOnion Onion]]'' [[http://www.theonion.com/articles/harry-potter-books-spark-rise-in-satanism-among-ch,2413/ article]] that someone along the line [[PoesLaw didn't realize was a joke]], forwarded to all their friends, and it blew up from there.
*** There were actually quite a few kids that started getting into the occult after Harry Potter got really popular, but if anything the parents were to blame rather than the books. And anyone who actually knows anything about occultism quickly realises that ''Harry Potter'' magic is a useless guide anyways.
* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' has actually been banned in some Christian school libraries because it's supposedly Satanic. Never mind its obvious Christian allegories, and ''never mind'' that Aslan ''is literally Jesus.''
** It ought be noted that, as with [[Literature/HarryPotter Mr. Potter]] above, [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalists]] also hated ''Narnia'' because it mentioned magic. Making it quite obvious to everyone that apparently every fundamentalist ever skipped the day that symbolism was taught in Language Arts class.
** In the original edition of his anti-''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' (see below) tract "Dark Dungeons", Creator/JackChick claimed that the works of Creator/CSLewis and Creator/JRRTolkien, which ''D&D'' was based on, were... you guessed it. This is hilarious because Mr. Lewis was a professional Christian writer and apologist; one of his more famous works was ''TheScrewtapeLetters'', in which he details the methods for combating Satan's influence, and the ''Narnia'' books are today treated as a [[TheMoralSubstitute Christian substitute]] for ''Harry Potter'' by some parents. Tolkien was also a devout Christian, and was supposedly responsible for Lewis' conversion.\\
However, it's important to note here that Tolkien was a ''Catholic''. Chick (like many fundamentalist Protestants) views Catholicism as not only un-Christian, but a flat-out Satanic deception, frequently using the Catholic Church as the big bogeyman in his tracts and conspiracy theories. Telling Chick that Tolkein was a Catholic, and that he was responsible for Lewis' conversion, would probably only strengthen his negative views of both men's work.
* Jack Chick is hardly the only one to denounce Tolkien as "Satanic". Perhaps the most baffling "argument" is presented in [[http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract11.html this essay]]: you know how in ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'', the good guys win in the end? [[InsaneTrollLogic Well, you know who else teaches that good always triumphs over evil? WITCHES!]] Evidently, a good Christian should look forward to the eventual triumph of Satan.
** Actually, she doesn't mean to say that believing good triumphs over evil makes one a witch. She says that "the good guys win" is not a valid defense of The Lord of The Rings or Harry Potter, because good magic is in itself an oxymoron. Still crazy, but at least logic if one believes magic exists and comes from Satan.
*** Interestingly, ''the Lord of the Rings books themselves take this stance''. All 'magic' is either a product of the villains or the Istari, who are literally Angels sent to guide the mortals against said villains. Everything else, the narrative and the characters take extreme pains to describe as ''not'' being magic, merely very skilled creations or natural talents, to the point where Galadriel gets offended when her Mirror is described as magical.
* ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' gets this treatment [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRM5ihaKWRA here.]] Yep, Edward Cullen was ''obviously'' named after the kid who escaped a Satanic cult that one time, and the chessboard on ''Breaking Dawn''[='=]s cover is ''obviously'' supposed to look like the floor of a Masonic lodge. Incidentally, Bill Schnoebelen is the guy who claims that ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' contains "authentic" spells and rituals. Given the bizarre, sensational, and contradictory stories he's told over the years, it's conjectured that he simply makes a large portion of his stuff up.
* Some Internet [[ConspiracyTheorist conspiracy theorists]] have decided that ''Literature/TheHungerGames'' is actually designed to brainwash people into ''accepting'' the dystopian society it depicts.

[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
* ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'': The purple one with the triangle and handbag is obviously proof that the evil gay liberals are forcing their godless agenda on our innocent children.
** He also wore a skirt at times that the other male refused to wear (strangely, it seems this was never brought up by either side).
* Parody sites like Christ Wire play with this a lot. For example, in their analysis of ''Series/{{Glee}}'', they accuse the straight Glee club teacher of turning kids into homosexuals because he dances and sings a lot, and they also criticize it for encouraging kids to "have fun in the arts" instead of pursuing "real" careers. They skip over all the show's much more obvious attacks on the Christian Right -- like the fact that the celibacy club president becomes pregnant, or the way her ultra-conservative, GlennBeck-loving parents throw her out of the house when they find out. Even better is their article where they accuse ''TheGoldenGirls'' of turning "a generation of American boys into homosexuals."
** [[{{Deadpool}} We know that's not true]].
* Legendary ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' hater "Allecto" picked apart just about every action and line of dialogue in the series in an effort to expose what she saw as JossWhedon's hatred of women. As far as she was concerned, the show was Whedon's manifesto of how he thought women should be abused by men.
** What was even worse was her criticism of the episode ''Our Mrs. Reynolds'', whose first half is largely taken up by Mal loudly protesting that the girl who has apparently been sold to him for getting rid of the bandits plaguing the town is ''not'' anyone's property and is free to do as she likes. Not only does she condemn the wife-selling [[CompletelyMissingThePoint as if Whedon had been openly endorsing it]], but she dismisses the ''viewpoint character's'' obvious disapproval with "but he can't really mean it, he's a man".
* Creator/JackChick thinks ''Series/{{Bewitched}}'' was Satan's first step in getting the occult accepted by mainstream America. Really.
* Jon Stewart parodied GlennBeck's tendencies towards this trope on ''Series/TheDailyShow'' where, after 'logically' piecing together numerous 'clues', he was able to reach the conclusion that [[Series/SesameStreet Bert]] was [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]].

* During the infamous Satanic Panic of the 1980's, lots of metal bands such as Slayer and Black Sabbath were accused of hiding Satanic messages in their music via backmasking. Naturally, if you listen to music backwards, and are trying to hear something, the gibberish will sound like something to you. Today, accusations of backmasking are almost always PlayedForLaughs, though there are still some conspiracy theorists who take them seriously.
* Parodied with the Worm Quartet's song (link hilarious but {{NSFW}}) "[[http://www.thefump.com/fump.php?id=75 What Your Parents Think All Your Music Sounds Like]]", allegedly "the most evil song ever recorded", which consists entirely of commands exhorting the listener to perform all sorts of misdeeds from raping their mothers to [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking drinking milk straight from the jug]], accompanied by a crowd chant of: "'''SEX! DRUGS! SATAN!'''"
* According to some conspiracy theorists, [[ContractualPurity trying to grow out of your innocent child star image]] is proof that the Satanic media is using you to lure innocent children away from their own purity and innocence. For example, BritneySpears' ''entire life'' was a plot -- start her out on the MickeyMouse show so parents think she's sweet and innocent, then when she gets older put her in skanky clothes and have her kiss {{Madonna}} to lure (former) children into depravity.
* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritone#Historical_uses Tritone]]. Because it's dissonant, it must be the devil!
** To clarify: The tritone is not just dissonant. It is the most dissonant interval in existence. It is also the interval between the base tone and the semi-tone between the ultra-consonant perfect fourth and perfect fifth in a scale. The interval is also exactly three whole tones (three being a holy number in Christianity, representing the Trinity, the cardinal virtues, et.c.). Both these aspects of course make it extra satanic.
* Music/TheBeatles got plenty of flak just for [[RockMeAsmodeus being a rock band]], but then they went and recorded "Helter Skelter", and before you know it, Creator/RomanPolanski's wife is dead. A rare case where the people claiming it was evil were not the MoralGuardians, but rather, a SerialKiller {{cult}}.
** There's also some serious InsaneTrollLogic going on, since the song is about an amusement park ride.
* Speaking of the Beatles, the YouTube channel iamaphoney started out as a series of PaulIsDead videos, but branched out into theories about the Beatles worshipping Creator/AleisterCrowley and other such things.
** For example, the Beatles were known for using backwards tracks, where Crowley wrote "let him learn to talk backwards..." you know what, it's hard to explain.
* MichaelJackson attempted to preempt this by putting a disclaimer right before the video for ''Thriller'', which depicts supernatural forces [[AnimateDead reviving the dead]] (as well as a fictional werewolf in a film ''[[FictionalDocument within]]'' said music video) that he did not believe in the occult. (He was still a devout Jehovah's Witness at the time.)

* According to [[http://www.demonbuster.com this parody website]], everything from candles to paisley prints contains demons waiting to pounce on you. Paisleys, you see, are evil because 1: the design was invented by those heathen Indians, 2: it looks like that heathen Pythagorean comma, and 3: it was printed on fabrics made from goat hair, and anything to do with goats is evil because goats represent Satan.
** The design originally [[spoiler: ("originally" in this context meaning "right after they stole it from the Indians who'd been using it for several millenia")]] came from the Scottish town of Paisley, [[TakeThat which anyone who has spent five minutes in will compare unfavorably to Hell]], so that site might be onto something after all.
** From the website: "For those of you who demand to see a Scripture before you can believe something, there are NO Scriptures that say YOU do NOT have demons. That should settle it!"
*** If you need any more evidence of trolling, it also says: ''BOYCE and BOICE are two demons that interfere with any electronic equipment, i.e., phone, computer, printer, automobile. If something malfunctions, command these two demons to leave your equipment, in the name of Jesus. We get many emails saying this worked.''
* Apparently, ''every'' round or semi-round shape in a logo is [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6afhiiR5AsM supposed to represent the Satanic all-seeing eye.]] Also, they point to logos containing eyes in which the eye makes ''perfect sense'' even without the conspiracy angle, such as eyes incorporated into the logos of home-security products. This makes even less sense if you know the symbol can also be used to represent God (because he is omni-cognisant.)
* Anything and everything that is taller than it is wide [[FreudWasRight is a phallic symbol]]. No exceptions.
** The same goes for anything that is famous for being larger than its peers.
** And if it's shorter then it's wide, you just turn it on its side...
* There is a site explaining, in all seriousness, why Santa Claus is an evil Satanic character. One reason was that "Old Nick" is a nickname for Satan. "Old Saint Nick" in fact just derives from "Saint Nicholas," a ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas historical person]]'' upon whom [[MemeticMutation Santa Claus was based.]]
** There's an even sillier claim that Santa is just a SignificantAnagram for Satan, which fortunately, most people just take as a joke. In reality, "santa" simply means "saint", which is about as far as a regular human can get from Satan.
*** Ironically, this almost works for the Finnish name for Santa Claus, which is "Joulupukki" and means, seemingly nonsensically, "Christmas He-Goat". This comes from a goat St. Nicholas was said to walk around on a leash, which really represented the devil, specifically his having ''bound it and made it harmless''. This is not so much satanic as people having forgotten what the symbolism originally meant.
** One common theory is that the myth of Santa Claus was fabricated by the devil to dispel faith in God, IE, when children discover that Santa Claus is not real, they will become more likely to [[IfJesusThenAliens apply this same logic to God as well]], thus falling within the devil's evil grasp.
** For this reason, even metals aren't immune. Nickel comes from the German ''Kupfernickel'', "Old Nick's copper".
* Did you know that the two major colas around the world are both anti-Muslim? Well, that's what some extremists say:
** There is one video by Muslim extremists that claim that Pepsi is pro-Israel. Why? Because Pepsi is an obvious acronym for Pay Every Penny to Save (or Support) Israel. Ironically, Pepsi is ''less'' involved in Israel than Coca-Cola is, and neither one can be accused of conspiracy, just of doing business there or not.
** According to some fundamentalist Muslims, Coca Cola's logo can be read as Arabic if it's inverted, and it says "No God, no Mecca." Although you have to squint ''a lot'' and do some seriously creative interpretation of the patterns, it resembles more closely the words: "For God, for Mecca." Which means that some fundamentalist Christian out there believes that, but fortunately, few of them can read Arabic.
** If you're wondering what cola the fundamentalists ''will'' drink: Some reject cola altogether (which is sort of bizarre, as the kola nut was first introduced to the world outside West Africa by Muslims); others drink [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca-Cola Muslim]]-[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla_Cola made]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamzam_(soft_drink) colas]] as TheMoralSubstitute. Note that the makers of these colas don't necessarily buy into the conspiracy theory themselves (for instance, Mecca-Cola and Qibla Cola, run by Muslims in Europe, were established with the goals of backing Muslim charitable causes like relief for the Palestinians, while Zamzam Cola was produced in Iran after American sanctions denied the country Coca-Cola and Pepsi).
* [[http://vigilantcitizen.com/ Vigilant Citizen]]. A website devoted to finding all of the [[TheIlluminati Illuminati]] / [[AncientConspiracy Masonic]] symbolism and {{brainwash|ed}}ing in the pop culture world, from ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' and {{Disney}} to LadyGaga and {{Beyonce}}. There is a swelling undercurrent of believers who have congregated to Website/YouTube to warn of the evils of music videos, children's programming and everything else in popular culture. The amount of reaching (and "research") is scarily staggering. See: the 5 part series on the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqYfYSRZZk possession of Beyonce]], the 11 part series on [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDgUTQYEIas Jay-Z's "Satanic Connections"]], and the 21(!) part series on [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEkANn1IBaQ Rihanna's "Umbrella" video]].
** This site, and others like it, hasn't gone unnoticed among the celebrities targeted. Music/LadyGaga is at the point where she's milking the attention/paranoia of conspiracy theorists for all it's worth, and Music/JayZ's [[TakeThat response]] was the brilliant and darkly artistic video for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1RChZk1EU "On to the Next One."]] They and other celebrities have also used metaphors like "selling their soul to the devil" and "swearing to Lucifer" in interviews, in an effort to troll conspiracy theorists.
* The Beltway Sniper caused fear and panic throughout Washington. Before he was caught, an investigation of one of his nests turned up a tarot card which had the words "I am God" written on it in marker. Despite the many theological or philosophical, or cultural possibilities given from the choice of card and words, some journalists declared that it was clearly a [[NewMediaAreEvil crazed video gamer.]] Why? Because "I am God" is clearly a reference to "God mode" a term in video games for a cheat that makes you invincible. This leads to the obvious question -- if he thought he was in "god mode", why was he hiding?
* ''Wiki/{{Conservapedia}}'', although it's more like Everyone Is Liberal In Washington, DC.
** Which is technically true, in that people who ''do'' in reality live in Washington DC tend to be liberal, to the extent that one reason it doesn't have congressional representation is that everybody knows giving it a congressman would basically automatically add a Democratic vote, and congressional seats are usually added so as to balance new seats held by each party.
* Wiki/{{Metapedia}} is this for white supremacists. "Anti-Racism" redirects to "Anti-White Movement."
* You can find plenty of this at [[http://www.fstdt.com Fundies Say The Darndest Things]]. A few particularly rich examples include...
** ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' and ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' will give you [[http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=58358 real demons!]]
** ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' is conditioning people to [[http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=69924 accept reptilians and half-human hybrids]].
** [[Franchise/StarTrek Klingons]] are [[http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=62380 also part of the reptilian agenda - and the "Klingon" language is really the reptilian language!]]
* [[http://www.youtube.com/user/gorilla199 The YouTube user gorilla1999 can connect anything to Freemasons, Satanists, and reptilians.]] There's also a video where he claims that [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqf0N0Z2nps most businesses in the world are controlled by reptilians or Freemasons]]. One wonders if that applies to Mom & Pop grocery stores as well.
* Christopher Lord, AKA [[http://www.truthiracy.com/ Truthiracy]]. The contents of his [[http://www.youtube.com/user/Truthiracy1 YouTube channel]] must be seen to be believed - he aims to prove that '''everything''' is Satanic. His [[LargeHam over-dramatic delivery]] of ''everything'' and his [[InsaneTrollLogic insane troll etymology]] suggests that it is a StealthParody. [[PoesLaw Of course, you can never really be sure.]]
* For a while, the Procter & Gamble company suffered from rumors of having links to Satanism, mostly thanks to [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/P%26G_logo.jpg this company logo]]. It was claimed that the logo was a mockery of Revelation 12:1 ("And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of 12 stars."), since it has 13 stars instead of 12. It didn't help that rival company Amway also helped in propagating the rumors.
** The 13 stars, of course, have more to do with P&G having started in the United States of America, which uses the number 13 in its iconography. Which implies that the USA is itself Satanic by the standards of its own citizens who are followers of this trope. Actually, that explains a lot.
* Some Protestants are convinced that the Catholic Church is secretly a Satanic cult and that the Pope is the Anti-Christ. Their "proofs" often include the "horned hand" or "segno delle corna" (an old Italian charm to ward off the evil eye; not Satanic), the upside-down cross on the papal throne (actually based on the tradition that Saint Peter, who is said to have been the first Pope, was crucified upside-down), and the hexagram (appropriated from Judaism; called the "star of creation" by some Christians and used to represent the six days of creation). You can find one of Jack Chick's highly flawed attacks on Catholicism [[http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp here]].
* Radio/GlennBeck once claimed that the artwork outside Rockefeller Center (Creator/{{NBC}}'s corporate headquarters and site of many of their TV studios) in New York was intended to glorify [[CommieNazis communism and/or fascism]], [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/02/glenn-beck-finds-communis_n_275915.html as documented here]]. In reality, the only artwork that was ever on display at Rockefeller Center that can be considered communist-themed, the mural ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_at_the_Crossroads Man at the Crossroads]]'', was destroyed after an outraged Nelson Rockefeller saw the mural's depiction of UsefulNotes/VladimirLenin and ordered it painted over with one of UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln.
** On a (slightly) less insane note, he has also said that the fasces is an [[CriticalResearchFailure ancient symbol for fascism]]. It is indeed a Roman symbol for authority, and it was indeed borrowed by Mussolini who named fascism after it, but that's not quite the same. The fundamental symbolism of the fasces (a bundle of reeds: one reed breaks, a bundle doesn't) is appropriate to democracies, republics, and federations, and has been used by France[[note]]Which features the fasces in its [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_emblem_of_France national emblem]][[/note]] and--significantly--the United States[[note]]The United States Senate uses the fasces in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_the_United_States_Senate its seal]], and the House of Representatives' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mace_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives mace]] is in the form of the fasces[[/note]] since the late 18th century (before fascism was even a thing people could imagine).
* Since the colorless energy image on the Pokémon [[TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}} trading card game]] looks like a hexagram, it's obviously a Zionist conspiracy, hence the game being [[BannedInChina banned in Saudi Arabia]].
** There was also quite an uproar about a Nazi swastika in the background of a Zubat card illustration... turns out, the card image was flipped when brought into America, and it's the symbol of peace they intended to put on the card. Not that most people in America would be able to tell the difference anyway.
* BSD (all types) has this problem since their logo/mascot is a little devil. It also doesn't help that background processes in *nix systems are called daemons[[note]][[FunWithAcronyms Disk And Execution MONitor]][[/note]].
* There is an urban legend that the word "picnic" derives from "pick a [N Word]" and was originally used to refer to a lynching with food and music for white spectators. [[http://www.snopes.com/language/offense/picnic.asp Snopes dealt with this one...]]
* American Sign Language. Because some of the signs use hand shapes that look like the "devil's horns" sign.
* Website/NotAlwaysRight gives us [[http://notalwaysright.com/this-troll-should-have-stuck-at-home/22365 this customer]], who goes to an hotel during a convention and claims that the trolls from ''{{Homestuck}}'' are demons because they have horns and that anyone cosplaying as them must be a devil worshipper. He also thinks that {{Human Sacrifice}}s will be done at midnight and when he is told that the only thing happening at midnight is a dance, he is quick to twist those words into "A dance with the Devil".
* Franchise/HelloKitty has an [[http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/hellokitty.asp urban legend associated with it]], which claims that it was created as a part of a DealWithTheDevil. As you can probably guess, there are [[http://inside-poland.com/t/priest-hello-kitty-pokemon-and-my-little-pony-turn-children-to-satan/ quite a few people who believe it...]]
* Try to mention the Illuminati in one of your works, whether it be satire, or a society based on the Conspiracy. People will take that as evidence you're one of Them.
* Monster Energy Drink [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bntfUA6TmLs is the work of SATAN!]] To be fair, most people who've tasted Monster would probably agree with the church lady there, [[TakeThat though for entirely different reasons]].

[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' -- One of the big ones. Certain people have claimed that the game contains [[CriticalResearchFailure "authentic"]] occult rituals and spells. The immortal Creator/JackChick did a whole tract, the [[SnarkBait infamous]] "Dark Dungeons", about fantasy gaming being a gateway to {{Satan}}. This is in spite of the fact that Creator/GaryGygax [[OffendingTheCreatorsOwn was himself a Christian]] -- you'd think portraying demons and devils as bad guys, and angels as good guys, would be an obvious enough clue of his actual stance.
** This has caused other game companies (like ''{{Rifts}}'' publisher Palladium Books) to place a disclaimer in all their books stating that their books are works of fiction and they don't condone the supernatural or occultism.
** Some books actually ''do'' include ceremonial and RitualMagic information. The ''entire'' Goetia (Lesser Key of Solomon) made it into ''DragonQuest'' in 1986. Minus the sigils, fortunately.
* Worth mentioning is ''MagicTheGathering''. It has been associated with everything from pagan rituals to Tarot cards.
** For that matter, Tarot cards were originally just playing cards, until bored rich people in the 19th Century decided to pretend to be wizards. Now, the cards themselves are evil and magical.
* TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}} was, in the 90's, accused of promoting communism. Another complaint by Christian groups was that it allowed people to play as a MugglePower [[FantasticRacism anti-mutant secret society]] dedicated to wiping out every mutant in Alpha Complex despite being [[BoomerangBigot mutants themselves]]. This is true, but said group is portrayed as completely evil and are deliberately made to invoke Nazi-esque imagery. They are in no way the heroes of Paranoia - there ''are'' [[BlackAndBlackMorality no heroes]] in Paranoia.
* Parodied in InNomine. In Nomine is a game about an actual conflict between the angels and the demons where demons are just fallen angels, and yes, capital G God the Almighty exists but chooses not to just end it. The angels (fallen and otherwise) are not sure which religion is true - Lawrence is a Catholic, but Gabriel (Jibril) did in fact tell Mohammed what to say and is a Muslim. It's played for laughs. The inside cover says, "Satanized for your protection. Do not play this game backwards."

[[folder:Video Games]]
* Pretty much any and all video games will be subject to this, since MoralGuardians consider all video games to be "satanic". These are just the most egregious examples. These ones were attacked mainly because of their popularity. And obviously anything popular is automatically evil.
* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' -- accused of being Satanic for various reasons. Two ridiculous examples that stand out is the accusation that the -mon suffix stands for "demon"[[note]]It stands for "monster" in this series. This confusion is more sensible than the others, because Pokemon shares a genre with Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei.[[/note]] or that the card game is a "stepping stone" to ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' (The fact that the 'Magic' game is put out by Wizards of the Coast, the same company that first produced Pokemon cards in America, didn't help) (see above). That [[http://www.theescapist.com/pokemon11.htm Pope John Paul II approved of Pokémon]] does not necessarily help, as many fundamentalist Protestant sects consider him to be the Anti-Christ.
** Arabic countries [[BannedInChina banned the game]] due to it containing a six-pointed star -- because a six-pointed star was ''obviously'' stealth Jewish/Israeli propaganda. More ridiculously, it's been claimed that "Pikachu" means "be a Jew," or worse, "stronger than God" in Latin America. (The truth is much more [[TastesLikeDiabetes benign and cutesy]]. The name is based on a Japanese onomatopoeia, coming out to roughly "Sparklesqueak" in English. Alternatively, it's named after the small fuzzy animal known as a pika. Or it could be both; they [[PungeonMaster do love their puns]] in Japan, after all.)
** [[http://pokegym.net/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=45060 Koga's Ninja Trick]] shows a manji. What's so bad about a manji? Well, it looks an awful lot like a [[ThoseWackyNazis swastika]]. Some people thought it meant ''Pokemon'' was encouraging Nazism, because after all, Japan and Germany are joined at the hip.
** A few distinct Pokemon have been subject to criticism from paranoid watchers. The Pokemon Houndoom has been accused of representing Satanism, since it is characterized as a demon dog with horns and a barbed tail.
** Some people criticized a Pokemon card showing a Registeel raising its arm. Apparently, it resembled a Nazi salute. To the less paranoid, it just looks like it's raising its arm. That pose was also on its sprite in the first two fourth gen games, ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', though it was altered in Platinum.
** There are creationists who accuse ''Pokemon'' of being anti-Christian because the Pokemon "evolve". Anyone with even a passing familiarity with the franchise will immediately recognize that [[HollywoodEvolution the "evolution" portrayed in the series]] has absolutely nothing to do with the actual theory of evolution, and is in fact much more similar to the real-life phenomenon of metamorphosis (caterpillars becoming butterflies and the like).
** Pokemon apparently promotes [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRNNOn8Gl64 Roman Gladiators]], but the arguments in the video are laughably bad. First, he claims Pokemon stands for "Pocket Men", when it stands for '''Pok'''etto '''Mon'''suta, Japanese for "Pocket Monsters", and claims that Creator Hideo Kajima created the series for Racism. He compares battles to Roman Gladiator Matches, and Pokeballs as cages they keep the Pokemon in, leaving out the fact that Ash gets along very well with his Pokemon. The fact that the arguments in the video are laughably bad, combined with the fact of his other video subjects, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQKqVIaRCBE&list=UU1reTFeRUtHC7MuG0dnBR4g his video about hashtags]] make him a likely [[PoesLaw Poe]].
** Here's one guy's experience in [[http://ragecomics.memebase.com/2012/04/20/rage-comics-evolution-is-inappropriate/ blatant hypocrisy]]. Because Pokemon is anti-religious, but sexist rap is a-ok!
* You could call PoesLaw on this one, but check out these [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_--DPLpDEmo two]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxfXQtnHGTo videos]] for the hidden meanings someone has claimed to find in ''LegacyOfKain''.
* There's no question that the original ''VideoGame/{{DOOM}}'' eventually takes the player to Hell. Enemies are explicitly referred to as demons. Satanic imagery is rampant. However... the player is tasked with ''destroying'' these images and agents of evil, yet the game has been accused of ''supporting'' the forces of Hell instead of opposing them.
* Similarly, the ''VideoGame/{{Diablo}}'' series fell into this for a number of uninformed parents.
* A [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKW7cZ9WCFk rumor]] that started around the early TurnOfTheMillennium claims that ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' is actually [[DirtyCommunists Communist propaganda]]. Among the many [=McCarthyist=] pieces of evidence to support this claim are Mario's resemblance to JosephStalin, Mario pulling down a flag with a peace sign (actually meant to be a skull) and putting up a flag with the Red Star at the end of each level, Mario coming from a working-class background, and Mario striving to depose [[BigBad Bowser]], a monarch, just like the Bolsheviks deposed the tsar (never mind that Mario's ''also'' trying to [[SaveThePrincess rescue and reinstate another monarch]]).

[[folder:Western Animation]]
* ''CareBears''. One particularly ridiculous example is when the movie was accused of promoting the occult because a character used magic from a talking spellbook. You'd think the fact that ''the spellbook was the villain'' would have given them a clue, but apparently not.
* ''RainbowBrite'' -- Accused of being Satanic by Texe Marrs. Why? Because it contained ''stars'' and ''rainbows!'' According to Marrs's logic, if someone who isn't God is throwing around rainbows, that person is definitely promoting Satanism. Surprisingly he didn't seize upon two (actually, three) connections that would have halfway made sense. The star is an ancient symbol of Islam (or, alternately, could be mistaken for the pentagram), while the rainbow is, of course, one of the most famous symbols of gay pride. So, you could say that Rainbow Brite is a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot satanic Islamist-homosexual]]!
** Texe Marrs really lives and dies by this trope. In ''Circle of Intrigue'', Texe quotes Hermes Trismegistus as saying "God is a circle." He then reasons that, since, of course, Hermes was obviously a Satanist, Hermes's god is Satan. Therefore, by his logic, ''anything'' that uses a circle as a symbol is Satanic. He then goes on to list examples of things that have circles in their logos, coats of arms, or general shape.
* ''TheYearWithoutASantaClaus'' -- pulled from TV in some places because Heat Miser was deemed "Satanic." Especially absurd because he looked much more like a clown than like a devil.
* Parodic (if eerily realistic-looking) complaints about ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' can be found; the usual themes are that the show is anti-Christian because it includes magic, shows animals as sapient when only humans are made in the image of God, and the fact that [[InsaneTrollLogic the name of the show's producer is]] Lauren ''{{Faust}}'', so [[InsaneTrollLogic she obviously must have a Satanic agenda]]. A good example is [[http://shelleytherepublican.com/2012/01/28/my-little-pony-friendship-is-satanic.aspx here]].
** For some ''authentic'' Christian critique, there's a forum thread which culminates in a debater [[https://forums.ccgaming.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=10807&start=220#p96696 concluding]] that the show was actually created by Satan to turn good Christian men gay, apparently in mistaken belief that the show is about "men trying to hook up with each other". And not about, y'know, ponies.
** If you know Polish, [[http://www.doziemiobiecanej.pl/notka/363/ezoteryka-dla-przedszkolaczka-dla-rodzicow-i-opiekunow/ this article]] will convince you that the show is actually evil occult propaganda meant to convert kindergarteners. You know how the protagonist is named Twilight? Well, Twilight means [[DarkIsEvil darkness]]. Also, Celestia's white and Luna's black, so obviously they are meant to represent the yin-yang. And a crystal can be seen in one scene, which is no doubt a reference to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Jewels Three Jewels]]. And yes, it's ''all'' 100% serious.
** For those less linguistic of tropers, the article claims that the fact that there are bad guys in a kids show teaches our kids that [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil good cannot exist without being balanced by evil]]. Which, according to the author, is [[BlatantLies blatant lies]], because "God doesn't need evil to be good, and he's perfect". By such, [[InsaneTrollLogic kids shows should not feature bad guys, to teach kids that the world is only filled with good, because God exists.]] Polish articles about religion and cartoons are the best.
*** And the patronizing tone in which it talks about children makes it even worse. It's like the writer is forcibly trying to prove his superiority over children in every sentence.
** Not to mention one blogger that accused the show of being racist (due to the two dark-colored pony guards at the foot of Celestia's throne) and Rainbow Dash of being a lesbian (simply because of her mane and [[LesbianJock her love of athletics]]), and saying that books won't get you anywhere in life and you need authority figures to tell you how to be happy (completely ignoring the fact that Twilight Sparkle's book knowledge more often than not gives vital information to the characters). Fortunately, Lauren found out about the blog post and fired back with one that addressed every concern and even criticized the original poster.


!!Fictional Examples

[[folder:Comic Books]]
* Human Gotara-worshippers in ''ElfQuest'' are quick to blame just about anything unpleasant on "evil elf spirits", even if the elves have been suffering the same misfortunes all along (e.g. Madcoil's attacks) and even acted to stop them.
** To be fair, since the elves are deliberately hiding from those humans (and largely seem content to just ignore them as much as they can otherwise instead of putting any effort into improving relations themselves), the humans in turn don't ever get to actually ''see'' anything that might dispel their superstitions.
* {{Exploited}} by Veronica Cale in a WonderWoman StoryArc. WonderWoman (at this time ambassador of Themyscira) had published a book from which Veronica took a phrase out of context and used it to send the MoralGuardians after her.
* Happened in a fashion in a ''Comicbook/{{Batman}}'' StoryArc revolving around the publishing of [[FictionalDocument a Batman comic]] within the DCUniverse, which is a ridiculously over-the-top DarkerAndEdgier interpretation of Batman involving the occult. (Bruce Wayne couldn't get them to stop as he obviously never copyrighted Batman.) A SerialKiller calling himself "Batman" proceeded to kill those whom he perceived as "sinners", claiming that it's what Batman would've done. The comic book writer stopped making any more by the third issue, claiming he wouldn't bear the responsibility for any further killings.

* The Cloud Ten film ''Deceived'' seems to have been made by the type of people who made this trope. A 6.66-second long sound byte that the military claimed came from space makes people's... um, sinful natures more prominent, and eventually [[CursedWithAwesome gives them funky]] PsychicPowers. The signal's ''true'' origin turns out not to be space, but the depths of Hell itself.

* ''Film/TurbulenceThreeHeavyMetal'' Plays with this sort of logic. Popular Heavy Metal Star "Slade Craven" needs to take a flight to get to his next concert. He keeps up his "Anarchist" and "Devil Worshipping." Persona until he boards the plane. Which is when the trouble begins. See, all the stuff he sang about and allegedly stood for really struck a chord with some people. So much so that they [[spoiler:take his lyrics as a prophecy, jijack the plane, kill the Captain and replace Slade with an impostor.]] ItMakesSenseInContext. Slade even asks them quite seriously "You REALLY believe all that...?" and calls them lunatics. The climax of the story is that [[spoiler: Slade has to land the plane. He's lost contact with any and all that were helping him and has no experience.]] Just before he attempts this he rips the Sign of Satan necklace off and says [[PrayerIsALastResort "Please God, Let us land safely. "]].
* The Mother of ''Film/TheWaterBoy'', who clams everything is "The Debil", especially anything related to "[[UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball Fool's Ball]]". Though it is later revealed she does this to prevent her son from leaving her like her husband did. But after she sees how much the town loves him, is able to get past this.
* ''Film/RockItsYourDecision'', a Christian-made film about TheNewRockAndRoll (reviewed brilliantly by Creator/BradJones on ''WebVideo/DVDRHell'') becomes all about this. A formerly rock-loving teen starts to discover all the "horrible and evil" elements to rock music, eventually turning against it completely by the end of the movie. However, as pointed out in Jones' review, the "hero" of the film clearly had no idea what the songs were about in many instances, and by the end has become so paranoid, self-righteous and horrible to everyone around him that one kind of has to wonder if the audience was really meant to side with him. The best part is when he starts giving examples of evil influence in the titles of the songs.
-->'''Brad''': Yes, I can see how you would have misinterpreted the line "You've got to change your evil ways."
* Parodied in ''WalkHard'', after Dewey Cox sings a pleasant song about holding hands which instantly causes well-behaved teenage boys to turn into violent louts and well-behaved teenage girls to turn into sex-crazed nymphos, the local priest angrily declares the song to be evil. When Dewey protests that it's [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin simply a song about holding hands]], he is informed that the [[HitlerAteSugar the Devil also has hands]] "and he uses' 'em for holdin'!"

* In ''ASwiftlyTiltingPlanet'', a MagicalNativeAmerican is depicted as giving birth in complete silence, but the white townspeople ''expect'' women to [[ScreamingBirth scream during labor]]. Said townspeople happen to be Puritans at the height of the American witchcraft scare, so it's treated by the townspeople as a sign of devilry.
** Considering the last time someone killed a "witch" in the Navajo Nation was ''1993'' (at least the last time the killer went to trial, anyway), [[RealityIsUnrealistic many Native Americans would probably agree about the witchcraft]].
*** But the signs are different.
*** And the Navajo are on the opposite side of the country from any Native Americans early colonists like the Puritans would have encountered!
* Harry of ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' has to deal with this on a fairly regular basis. He does this with his usual blend of sarcasm, dry wit, and setting things on fire. He does, however, try not to exacerbate the situation, and he points out that he does not use pentagrams in his magic because he knows it would make people even more hysterical.
* The Imperial Order in the ''SwordOfTruth'' claims this about wizards and sorceresses in particular, but also in general about anyone who is better than anyone else at anything. They are not nice people. It also doesn't stop them from ''employing'' these wizards and sorceresses, either.
** A mob tries this on Zedd. He stokes their fears of him until they all run away screaming. How? By asking them to explain why they're afraid of him.
* Through a combination of a poor knowledge of history, general paranoia, and the Aes Sedai tendency to meddle in ''everything'', any people in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime''-verse believe the Aes Sedai to be evil and aligned with the Dark One. By and large, the most you could say about them is that they're incompetent.
** To be fair, only the [[KnightTemplar Whitecloaks]] support such a negative view of the Aes Sedai. In most countries they are respected but not trusted, because of their flair for ExactWords and JediTruth.
** Slightly more justified with ''male'' channelers - the Dark One actually did taint ''Saidin'', so the devil actually does make male channelers go crazy and kill everything.

[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
* The Whiteadders from ''{{Blackadder}}'' are devout followers of this trope, believing that everything from mashed turnips to ''[[FelonyMisdemeanor sitting on chairs]]'' is the work of the devil.
** They still giggle when they find a turnip that looks like a "thingy." [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Because they also had raw turnip on their wedding night]].
* Dana Carvey's Church Lady character from ''SaturdayNightLive'' was famous for this kind of thing.
--> "Could it beeeeeee ''SATAN''!?"
* Simon and River run into a backwoods clan that attempts to burn River at the stake because they mistake her PsychicPowers for witchcraft in ''Series/{{Firefly}}''.

[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
* The ''TabletopGame/DarkMatter'' setting for both ''TabletopGame/{{Alternity}}'' and ''TabletopGame/D20Modern'' offered up the Final Church to provide [[GameMaster GMs]] with a ready-made evil Satanic conspiracy for games where all the raving paranoia about Satan's influence in the world is ''true''. The necessary InsaneTrollLogic is encouraged.
* In MageTheAscension, the Technocracy encourages this sort of thinking in order to turn the public against the Traditions. Granted, the Verbanna do on occasion practice ritual blood sacrifice as part of their rotes. So it's not like the Traditions have nothing to hide.

* In ''TheMusicMan'', Harold Hill convinces an entire town that a pool table is a tool of Satan to corrupt their children. He lists several "symptoms" that their children are being corrupted, which include a few things that would actually be worrisome if they happened, but also a few which were perfectly normal and harmless behaviors for teenage boys. (Like using slang words like "swell.") In the end, he boils it down to a catchy little chant that runs on circular logic: "We've got trouble with a capital T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for pool!" Just like in many real-life cases, this is a ploy to get the gullible townspeople to buy something: Hill proclaims that the way to save this town from falling into the clutches of evil is to start a boys' band... and Hill just happens to be a music professor.
** To make it even funnier, some of the things he mentions are things that had been out of production for ''years'' in 1962.

[[folder:Web Original]]
* Parodied by WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd, who once ranted about increasingly contrived evidence (ranging from an area on the map arranged like a pentagram to ''the fact that there are fires in the game'') that ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros3'' was Satanic and that his cartridge was demonically possessed.
** He was right.
* Parodied by WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows in [[http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/tpsr/28573-ep-13-qlike-a-g6q his review]] of the song "Like a [=G6=]". He determines that the song is Satanic after hearing Dev's "like three six" line, ultimately stretching it to conclude that ''all'' pop music is controlled by the Devil and that we must repent before the great Music/JohnnyCash.
* Parodied by Smosh in their video "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNTzKHkxki8&list=UUY30JRSgfhYXA6i6xX1erWg MOST VIOLENT GAME EVER!?]]", where a psychologist accuses Ian's game of encouraging violent tendencies (when Ian only swatted a fly), and [[HypocriticalHumor vows to kill Ian to prevent any violent outbreaks]].

[[folder:Western Animation]]
* Subtly invoked in ''TheSimpsons'' episode "Bart Star", where [[TheFundamentalist Ned Flander's]] sons Rod and Todd wear football jerseys with the numbers [[NumberOfTheBeast "66" and "6"]], at one point even standing beside each other just to drive it home.