Sometimes, GenreSavvy characters talk about tropes. There are at least three kinds of such discussions:

# They {{exploit|edTrope}} or {{invoke|dTrope}} the trope directly, either by action ("I'll make my sword more powerful by [[PowerGlows making it brighter]]!") or by anticipation ("His sword is [[PowerGlows glowing]], I suppose that means it's very powerful").
# They're just discussing tropes in general, apropos of nothing. This is also called ConversationalTroping.
# And then there are the discussions that go something like, "If this were an action movie, talking [[TemptingFate about your family like that]] would mean you'd be [[SortingAlgorithmOfMortality dead in a few minutes]]." or "[[ThisIsReality Unlike]] what you may read in detective stories, [[TheButlerDidIt the Butler is a somewhat unlikely suspect]] in any murder investigation of [[LockedRoomMystery this sort]], for reasons X, Y and Z."

'''This trope covers that third category''', where a trope is brought up by the characters, and is directly relevant to the situation at hand, but is not taken necessarily as TruthInTelevision.

This kind of conversation is used to set up either a {{justifi|edTrope}}cation (Invoked Tropes normally just sort of assume the trope is Truth in Television), a [[AvertedTrope fully noted aversion]], some variety of {{deconstruct|edTrope}}ion or a way of [[LampshadeHanging hanging a lampshade]]. In some cases, it leads to DeathByGenreSavviness.

This trope is extremely common when OurVampiresAreDifferent is invoked in a contemporary setting. Most authors just can't resist [[YourVampiresSuck having their characters point out how 'real' vampires differ from all those laughably inaccurate Hollywood representations.]]

Of necessity, almost all criticism involves the twilight realm between ConversationalTroping and Discussing the trope; as a rule, Wiki/TVTropes errs on the side of calling them "discussed", because the trope is directly relevant to the "plot" at hand, except in the PlayingWithWiki [[note]]The reasoning being that, in the generic PlayingWithWiki setting, a Conversed trope is indistinguishable from a critique[[/note]].

Distinct from ConversationalTroping in that a Discussed Trope will have some relevance to the situation at hand, and distinct from an InvokedTrope in that an Invoked Trope is always either played straight or expected by at least one character to be played straight.

See also ThisIsReality, which this trope generally invokes.

Do not mix up with DisgustTropes.


[[folder:Anime & Manga]]
* Early on in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' other Leaf Gennin remark that Naruto would make for a crappy hero because he's a loudmouth and an [[IdiotHero idiot]]. At other times people such as Kiba, who have been beaten by Naruto, remark that he has a lot of HiddenDepths and a talent for [[MagneticHero attracting allies]] with his idealistic outlook on life.
* Tropes are often discussed in ''Manga/LuckyStar''. This is understandable since one of the main characters is an OtakuSurrogate.
* ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya''. Since the eponymous character is [[spoiler:a GenreSavvy RealityWarper]] without her knowledge, ThisIsReality [[SkepticismFailure never occurs.]] She also discusses tropes while deliberately invoking them, for example while selecting personalities for SOS Brigade, or giving Mikuru a Moe makeover.
* In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', Colonel Mustang points out to Lt. Hughes that if he was in a war story, talking so much about how much he misses his family, while on the battlefield, would be a [[RetIrony surefire way to get killed]].
** Especially ironic because [[spoiler:Lt. Hughes falls victim to that very same trope. Apparently it's not just on the battlefield.]]
* DefiledForever is discussed in ''Manga/WolfGuyWolfenCrest'', as a consequence of [[spoiler: Aoshika (a woman who had ''already'' been sexually abused in her past) being kidnapped and gangraped by Haguro and his goons.]]
* A lot of tropes pertaining to video game mechanics and characters tend to get discussed a lot in ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'', one of the notable ones of Rakan being a GameBreaker. Naturally, a good chunk of this either comes from [[MetaGuy Chisame]], whoever else is GenreSavvy, or will be mentioned in any extra materials.
* In ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'', Sousuke, Kaname, and Kurz find themselves in a BolivianArmyEnding-type scenario, Kaname and Kurz briefly discuss the[[Film/ButchCassidyAndTheSundanceKid trope-naming movie]] (without naming names) and compare it to their situation. When Sousuke asks how it ended, Kaname says that [[LeftHanging you never find out]] and remarks that she always preferred movies with {{Happy Ending}}s.

* Used brutally in ''Comicbook/BlackOrchid'': the title character is captured by a {{Mook|s}}, who discusses WhyDontYouJustShootHim. He [[DecoyProtagonist shoots her in the head]], then [[KillItWithFire sets her on fire]] to make absolutely sure she's DeaderThanDead. Good thing MesACrowd.
* ''Comicbook/TooMuchCoffeeMan'': A character in a bar discusses how he has never seen a [[BarBrawl barfight]] happen in real life, and is approached by a man who says he is sitting on his jacket. He gets up from the bar stool to let the man have his jacket, and sits down as the man [[SubvertedTrope walks away]].
* Issue 7 of ''Transformers More Than Meets The Eye'' has an interesting sequence where [[RagTagBunchOfMisfits the Scavengers]] are resting around their campfire and proceed to discuss and wonder about various tropes and how they apply to the comic's setting. In particular the (rather grim) implications of the StatusQuoIsGod, GreyAndGrayMorality, TheGoodGuysAlwaysWin, NotSoDifferent, and ForeverWar tropes are brought into light.
* When ComicBook/{{Storm}} and ComicBook/JeanGrey catch up in ''ComicBook/UncannyXMen #270'', comparing notes about how crazy their lives are, Jean sums up how she spent [[WebcomicTime a few years]] unconscious when she was thought dead.
--> '''Jean:''' I blacked out in space, I awoke in the Baxter Building, ages later, my whole world turned upside-down, the modern equivalent of RipVanWinkle.

[[folder:Fan Works]]
* As a Haruhi/Tvtropes fanfic, this is a mainstay of ''Fanfic/KyonBigDamnHero''. One notable example is when Kyon discusses ThoseTwoGuys with [[ThoseTwoGuys Taniguchi and Kunikuda.]] Later, Haruhi, Mikuru, and Koizumi discuss ObliviousToLove in front of Kyon. He ''still'' doesn't get it.
* ''[[Fanfic/GameTheoryLyricalNanoha Power Games]]'' has Hayate and Chikaze discussing the ZombieApocalypse and most of its associated tropes.
-->'''Hayate:''' First off, the most important thing is to ''notice that there are zombies''. That's really crucial. Underline that.
* Prince Vince and Donny Juice discuss {{Love Triangle}}s and TriangRelations in ''[[Fanfic/{{Cinderjuice}} Sleeping Beetle]]''. Notably, Vince explains the latter to Donny as being something he learned about while browsing This Very Wiki, although he doesn't reference it by name; he describes it as being "where all manner of storytelling devices are explored and explained."
* ''[[ Per Volar Su Nata]]'':
-->'''Hermione:''' We're not going to have one of those misunderstandings? You know, when you guys [[LetsYouAndHimFight fight each other to the death]] believing the other guy's a villain or something?\\
'''Robin:''' No.\\
'''Rachel:''' She has a point, Robin. How many times have members of the League, or of the Titans for that matter, clashed over a misunderstanding when they first met?\\
'''Robin:''' If that really was the case, Rachel, by that logic I should have been fighting with Harry the moment we walked in the door like a jealous psycho ex-boyfriend.
* ''[[ Adventures in Dimension Hopping]]'':
-->'''Jonathan:''' When Anya eventually dumps you because you won't stop panting after Buffy, is it okay if I ask her out?\\
'''Xander:''' No, you can't, because I'm not going to let that happen. No panting. It ends here.\\
'''Andrew:''' Probably a wise decision. Fantasizing about a girl with superpowers is probably a lot more fun than the reality. She patted me on the arm and it really hurt. I'm almost afraid to know what might happen if you were, you know.\\
'''Jonathan:''' Yeah. She might [[ManOfSteelWomanOfKleenex pop your wiener right off]].

[[folder:Films -- Live Action]]
* ''Film/GalaxyQuest'' does this frequently, mainly using the character of Guy, an actor who never quite got over how he played a RedShirt in the series:
--> "I'm not even supposed to be here; I'm just '[[NominalImportance Crewman Number Six]].' I'm expendable. I'm the guy in the episode who dies to prove how serious the situation is!"
* ''Film/BeverlyHillsCop'' features a PlayedForLaughs discussion of BolivianArmyEnding, during the final shootout with the BigBad's goons. Of course, the scene doesn't actually end this way, making it a parody as well.
-->'''Rosewood:''' You know what I keep thinking about? You know the end of Butch Cassidy? Redford and Newman are almost out of ammunition, and the whole Bolivian army is out- out in front of this little hut?\\
'''Taggart:''' Billy, I'm gonna make you pay for this.
* ''Film/TheBoondockSaints'' pull this measure during a shopping scene where one character impedes himself with a large length of rope, because people in the movies always have it and always need it. Lampshaded later on.
* ''Film/{{Magnolia}}'' has the memorable scene where Phil Parma is on the phone trying to track down the estranged son of his dying patient.
-->'''Phil:''' I know this sounds silly, and I know that I might sound this is the scene of the movie...where the guy is trying to get a hold of the long-lost son, y'know, but this is that scene. This is that scene. And I think they have those scenes in movies because they're true. Y'know, because they really happen. And you gotta believe me, this is really happening. I mean, I can give you my number and you can go check with whoever you gotta check with and call me back. But do not leave me hanging on this. Please. I'm just -- please. See...this is the scene of the movie where you help me out.
* In ''Film/NancyDrew'', an actor playing a detective on a TV series set in the 1950s (Creator/BruceWillis in a cameo) notes they have police in the show give Miranda warnings, which didn't come about until 1966.

* In ''Literature/ABrothersPrice'', Jerin is disappointed by the quarters his family is given in the palace. He would have expected at least a secret passageway, like in the adventure novels. His room, however, is surrounded by windows, and the only door leads to the rooms where his sisters sleep. [[spoiler: Later on, Ren shows him a secret passageway. There is one, but it's only in the husband's quarters of the palace, not in the guest rooms.]] Of course, it would be foolish to put their honoured guest in a room with a secret passageway by which a stranger could enter the room; Jerin saved one of the princesses, and putting him at risk of being abducted by a set of sisters who are desperate for a husband ... would not reflect positively on the royal family.
* In ''Literature/{{Masques}}'', Aralorn, when trying to convince her friend to take her with him on a dangerous mission, points out that she's not one of those women who get in the way [[DamselInDistress by always needing to be saved.]]
* The ''Literature/LordPeterWimsey'' stories tends to feature dialogue in which somebody discussing "If this were a mystery story…" Particularly common when his {{Love Interest|s}} Harriet Vane is present, as she ''is'' a writer of mystery stories.
* Sam Vimes' Genre Savvy discussion of Clues in various ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books is another good literary example.
** ''Discworld'' and {{Discussed Trope}}s go together like dwarves and gold. In ''Discworld/{{Sourcery}}'', an EvilChancellor actually SAYS of some evil action he is undertaking, "I am the Vizier after all. It is rather expected of me."
*** This is taken to its logical extreme in Dr Hix, Professor of Postmortem Communications, who is ''contractually obligated'' to be mildly evil on a day-to-day basis, not to exceed aforementioned contractual standards. Will often loudly insist on this as part of [[WizardingSchool Unseen University]] discussions.
* The ''Literature/BlackJewels'' book ''Tangled Webs'' by Creator/AnneBishop has a couple of examples, mainly because the villain is a hack author. Two characters who had been making fun of the author's cliché-ridden writing are trapped in a house that's trying to kill them while the author watches from inside the walls and records it all as fodder for his next book. At one point, the characters comment that in a horror story, this is exactly when one of them would be stupid enough to go into the cellar. As they're saying this, the cellar door slams shut of its own accord -- if they had gone down the stairs, they would have been trapped. Later in the book, the (gay) male main character remarks to the female main character that this is the point in the story where they're supposed to have sex. They look at each other for a moment, and then the woman says, "So what do you want to do in the five minutes that would have taken?"
* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' used these more than average. Especially common are references to the tropes of ''Franchise/StarTrek'' -- things like RubberForeheadAliens (not used in Animorphs), or FrickinLaserBeams (which is used).
* Creator/RobertAHeinlein was particularly fond of having his characters do this, particularly ones who are established authors in-universe and who proceed to comment on the narrative structure of their own stories. ''Literature/TheCatWhoWalksThroughWalls'' is a prime example.
* ''Literature/{{Otherland}}'', by Creator/TadWilliams, contains an elaborately drawn out discussion of the ShaggyDogStory trope throughout the novels, triggered initially by the presence of a Bushman character whose tribal mythology is largely based on the concept, and later getting folded into the main plot by means of [[AIIsACrapshoot the Other's]] manipulations and the hidden agenda of [[MysteriousInformant Mr. Sellars]].
* In ''Literature/TheShatteringPreludeToCataclysm'', Thrall realizes that the Horde is suffering from the WhatMeasureIsANonHuman trope, as many of the young warriors started out killing undead in the war against the Scourge, and thus are somewhat desensitized to killing living opponents, making them more keen on going to war with the Alliance.
* Early in ''[[Literature/TheShadowspawn The Council of Shadows]]'', Ellen says "I'm supposed to [[TookALevelInBadass take a level in badassery]], right?" in reference to her training for self-defense against [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Shadowspawn]].
* ''Film/TheLincolnLawyer'' discussed the possibility of his client, Louis Roulet, facing [[JusticeByOtherLegalMeans a civil suit]] for the crime he's accused of even if he's not convicted.
* In ''Literature/WingsOfFire'', [[TheIdealist Sunny]] gives a sentimental speech to the rest of her FiveManBand right before the story's climax talking about how they love each other no matter what happens. Glory responds by saying that kind of soppy speech means they're probably all going to die.
* Veronica in ''Literature/EdenGreen'' and Io in ''Literature/NewNight'' are self-proclaimed tropers. Veronica refers to their fight against the secret alien needle invasion as TheMasquerade, while Io compares one situation to [[Literature/TheTwoTowers a scene out of Tolkien]].

[[folder:Live Action TV]]
* An episode of ''Series/GetSmart'' opens with Max receiving the name of a KAOS spy from a dwarf in an otherwise vacant warehouse. Max immediately tells the informant that he was surprised that he wasn't shot dead right before revealing the name. Because of the surprise, Max forgets the name and asks the informant to repeat it. The informant is then killed by a sniper before repeating the name.
* The titular character of ''Series/{{Castle}}'' does this CONSTANTLY. He's a big fan of CIA/NSA conspiracies, alien abductions, time travel, and in an episode where a murder victim has a butler, he would dearly love to say "TheButlerDidIt."
* Host segments on ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' were frequently dedicated to discussions that would deconstruct themes and tropes found in the movies the main characters were watching. The episode ''Film/{{Eegah}}'', for example, has one relating to the MissingMom of the film, and how it was a plot setup commonly used in television of the period. The Bots also {{lampshade|Hanging}} the whole thing by pointing out they don't technically have a mom either.

[[folder: Mythology and Religions]]
* OlderThanDirt: In ''Literature/TheEpicOfGilgamesh'', when the titular character is approached by Ishtar, who asks him to marry her. He then proceeds to list the examples of fictional characters[[note]]Yes, there WERE lots of mythologies/religions back then, although TEOG was the first ''written'' story.[[/note]] who ended up in a bad fate because of sleeping with divine beings.

[[folder:Web Comics]]
* [[ This episode]] of ''Webcomic/{{Buttersafe}}'', in which a boy without pants struggles to work out if the NotWearingPantsDream trope is being {{subverted|Trope}}, {{Double Subver|sion}}ted or played straight.
* An unusual example in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', in that the trope in question is only a trope in-universe. Karkat accuses [[IHatePastMe himself]] of falling into a common pitfall of RomCom characters, but the trolls' [[BizarreAlienReproduction fourfold system of romance]] makes their tropes somewhat different from ours.
* In ''Webcomic/KnightsOfBuenaVista'', when Mary and Adriana are discussing the backtory for Elsa and Anna (this is a CampaignComic covering ''{{Disney/Frozen}}''), Mary notes that estranged people who love each other, and have to overcome what separates them, worked in ''Film/DieHard''.

[[folder:Web Original]]
* The TV Tropes podcast ''Podcast/{{On the Tropes}}'' is all about discussing tropes, as is the sister (brother?) show ''On The Rocks''

[[folder:Western Animation]]
%%* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'': Mister Green plays this trope straight with the DarkIsNotEvil trope
* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'', Alfred worries that "This time, the butler may indeed have done it" in relation to a series of robberies from the Wayne household. Funny thing is? He ''did'' do it, under hypnosis. That was discovered quite quickly.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': Homer gets [[ItMakesSenseInContext hammered halfway through an overhang by a trampoline.]]
-->'''Homer:''' If this were a cartoon, the cliff would break off now...
--> ([[{{Beat}} Fade to nighttime.]])
--> '''Homer:''' [[SubvertedTrope I'm thirsty...]]
--> '''*[[DoubleSubversion CRACK!!]]*'''
-->'''Homer: ''WAAAAAAAAARGH!!!...'''''
* In the ''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' episode "Sabotage", damage to the Supercomputer causes lots of bugs on Lyoko, including one that makes Ulrich's Avatar lose all colors. Playing along, he starts fighting a Tarantula ''[[Literature/TheThreeMusketeers Three Musketeers]]''-style with his katana. (The French version also adds in a ShoutOut to ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac''.)
-->'''Ulrich:''' Since I am in [[DeliberatelyMonochrome black and white]], let's [[MonochromePast do this old style]]. ''En garde!''
* In any episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' with Henchmen 21 and 24, it's a certainty that the GenreSavvy henchmen will discuss at least one trope.
* ''EdGrimley'': The police refused to search for a man's stolen car in favor of searching for Ed's fish. Ed commented to the man that, if that were not a cartoon, they'd be looking for the car.
* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', Carl is telling Major Monogram a story. It cuts to a commercial break as the gang is falling off a cliff. Major Monogram points out that Carl [[CliffHanger left him hanging with that cliff scene]].
* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'':
-->'''Amethyst:''' [[spoiler: I wish that I could say [[TheresNoPlaceLikeHome there's no better place than home,]] but home's a place that I will never know.]]