Also called:
# The "Children Are Starving In Africa!" Argument.
# Fallacy of relative privation (its proper name).

Arguing that expressing concern about [[FirstWorldProblems a (relatively) small problem]] means that the person doesn't care about any larger problems. A type of Strawman, this fallacy takes the opponent's claim and appends to it the following additional claims:

# That it is not possible to care about big and small problems simultaneously.
# That venting a minor complaint is sufficient proof that the major problem is considered unimportant.
# That if the person irritated over the minor problem did help solve or even cared about the big problems, s/he would then not mind at all that his/her car broke down or whatever the frustration was...or because there are people with worse problems, that person shouldn't complain about a frustration.

The intent is to distort the opponent's claim X into "X, which is far more important than anything else."

A similar fallacy is the "if you care so much, why aren't you doing something about it?" argument, which is also related to the PerfectSolutionFallacy in that the only way that the target can be doing something about it to the arguer's satisfaction is to be devoting 24 hours of every day to the issue and therefore not be involved in the debate.

A related issue is the airgap problem. No matter how much worse someone else's pain is, you can only feel your own. Your paper cut isn't objectively as painful as someone else's broken leg--but you don't feel any pain from their leg, while your own paper cut stings you like the dickens. (For that matter, their broken leg isn't as painful as the pain of someone else who's being tortured to death; but they still have an airgap. Their broken leg is agonizing to them, but they don't feel the other person's torture at all.)

Finally, there's the issue that people have different pain tolerances. One woman might be kind of bummed by a miscarriage; another might be depressed for months; a third might go permanently mad from grief. A "[[FirstWorldProblems First World problem]]" for one person might be honestly devastating for another.

Often invoked in MiseryPoker.


[[folder: Advertising ]]

* The "And you are worried about stepping on dog poo" ad in ''Reader's Digest'' about landmines.


[[folder: Film ]]

* Commonly used when an unrealistic element of fiction is being argued about; for example, if one person questions how Naboo in ''Franchise/StarWars'' can have an ElectiveMonarchy (or what the point of such an institution would actually be), the second states something like "And this is the biggest problem you have in a universe with mystic powers and spaceships as big as moons?"
** There's an old fiction saying about this: "You can ask an audience to believe the impossible, but not the improbable." If our hero must win a game of poker versus the Galactic Emperor Zurg to save Earth from the Unobtanium Bomb, people will buy it. If he wins the game with a [[TheMagicPokerEquation Royal Flush beating a 4-of-a-kind]], they cry foul.
* Done in ''Film/AChristmasStory'' when Randy doesn't eat the meatloaf because he hates it. Mrs. Parker tells him that starving children in China would be happy to have it.
* In ''Film/{{Munich}}'' one of the people involved in the planning of the Munich massacre of Israeli Olympic athletes says that compared to the reaction of the massacre, nobody says anything about the children killed in Israel's military attacks to Palestine.
* ''Film/ThreeThousandMilesToGraceland'' gives us this exchange:
-->'''Michael:''' Finish your fries.\\
'''Jesse:''' I don't have to if I don't want to. You're not my father, you know.\\
'''Michael:''' Didn't you ever hear about starving kids in Africa?\\
'''Jesse:''' Why? Are you gonna send them my fries?


[[folder: Literature ]]

* In the ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' book ''The Joy of Work'', Scott Adams responds to Norman Solomon's book ''The Trouble with Dilbert'' by writing a fictional interview between Solomon and Dogbert. When he has Solomon complain that ''Dilbert'' attacks {{Pointy Haired Boss}}es more than {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s, Dogbert's counterargument is that Solomon clearly supports teen pregnancy because he didn't write a book about that.
** What makes it more absurd is that, [[WordOfGod according to Adams himself in the same book,]] Normon Solomon's ''The Trouble With Dilbert'' only came about because of [[TwistingTheWords Solomon taking one of Adams' quotes about "Good things about downsizing" out of context]] (The original context was that, since he's always hammering on downsizing in his books and comics, if he could think of anything that is good about downsizing.)
* In ''TheCatWhoSeries'', one time when Qwilleran's pampered Siamese turn up their noses at the food he gives them, he makes some reference to there being cats in another country that don't know where their next mouse is coming from. It makes no difference to the spoiled kitties.
* In ''Write This Book: A Do-It-Yourself Mystery'', Pseudonymous Bosch talks about this in a sidebar in about perspective, describing a parent using this argument against a kid who got a bad haircut. He comments "It goes without saying that this so-called long view is infuriating for someone whose hair is cut too short. Sure, your hair might grow back ''one'' day, but will it grow back before school starts next week." The end of the sidebar, however, reads "'''And stop whining about that haircut!'''"


[[folder: Live Action TV ]]

* Phoebe on ''Series/{{Friends}}'', when Rachel is {{wangst}}ing over Ross getting remarried (and looking a lot like a [[FandomNod nod to viewers who made such complaints]]);
-->'''Phoebe:''' Wow! This reminds me of the time when I was, umm, living on the street and this guy offered to buy me food if I slept with him.\\
'''Rachel:''' Well, h-how is this like that?\\
'''Phoebe:''' [[{{Dissimile}} Well, let’s see, it’s not. Really, like that]]. Because, you see that was an ''actual'' problem, and uh, yours is just like, y’know, a bunch of, y’know, high school crap that nobody really gives, y’know?
* In "Amy's Baking Company" on ''Series/KitchenNightmares'', one of the owners actually uses this when a customer complains about the food.
* Frank Burns tries to use this argument in ''{{MASH}}'' when he sees Radar throwing away a half-eaten (and inedible) dinner:
-->'''Burns''': There are people starving in China, you know!
-->'''Radar''' (offering his tray): Here, you can give them this.


[[folder: Newspaper Comics ]]

* Appears ''very'' frequently in ''ComicStrip/ForBetterOrForWorse'', when a character wants to shut up the complaints of another, typically along the lines of "You're sitting around complaining about a haircut when there are refugees in war-torn countries out there!"
** Mocked in [[ this]] ''WebComic/{{Shortpacked}}'' strip. "April, you spoiled brat! There are children starving in Africa!"
* Many accusations of this fallacy are deconstructed by ComicStrip/{{Quino}} in the form of FirstWorldProblems, for example: In one strip it shows a man walking unflinchingly through crime-ridden poverty-infested streets, until he arrives to his job as a TV host where he dedicates his program to people "With great angst and sadness caused by gaining weight and who wanted to show their figure by the pool this summer". In another it puts a side-by-side comparison of a rich woman and a Third-World country one, where they both complain about the unhealthy food their family eat (sweets and junk food in the rich woman's case and worms, rotten meat and infected water for the poor one).


[[folder: New Media ]]

* The "FirstWorldProblems" phenomenon originally applied to ''minor'' inconveniences treated by the afflicted as the worst thing ever to happen to them, but it's taken on implications of this as people started using it in response to ''any'' complaint a "first world" citizen has.
* Some of the detractors of Shane Koyczan's anti-bullying "[[ To This Day Project]]" have been guilty of this, by claiming that the issue of bullying doesn't deserve attention when there are children starving in Africa or warring in trouble spots around the globe.


[[folder: Stand Up Comedy ]]

* Referenced by PeterKay when he complains about his mother buying him [[ShoddyKnockoffProduct Rola Cola]] and him refusing to drink it. "There are children starving in Africa!" "Then send it to them! They'll ''[[EvenBeggarsWontChooseIt send it back!]]'' It's that bad!"
* Also Carl Hurley, a rather rotund Kentucky comedian, who'll occasionally sprinkle in a reference of how he wonders how his obesity benefits children in Africa.


[[folder: Tropes ]]

* Constitutes the MiseryPoker trope. And the SeriousBusiness trope, if used as an insult. (The implication being that you take it too seriously and other things not seriously enough.)


[[folder: Video Games ]]

* Shows up in an...[[RefugeInVulgarity unexpected context]] on the Website/{{Twitter}} parody Bleeter in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV''.
-->''Shallow, bitch. There are children starving in Africa''.


[[folder: Web Comics ]]

* Parodied in [[ this strip]] of ''SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'', in which people who try to use the argument are constantly interrupted by people with even worse problems until they finally reach the least fortunate man in the world.
* ''You Damn Kid!'' had the author relate how his family once accepted an orphan from China into their home for a while... which led to the Kid pointing out that his mother's claims about "Starving orphans in China would kill for that!" were false [[EvenBeggarsWontChooseIt when even the orphan was disgusted by the meal]].
* Parodied in [[ this]] strip of ''Webcomic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella''. "How can you even THINK of superheroing when there's so much crime and tragedy in the world?"
* In ''Webcomic/ArthurKingOfTimeAndSpace'' Guenevere responds to the idea that there are "bigger problems than misogyny" by asking which is worse, misogyny or littering. When the other person admits misogyny is worse than littering, she retorts "But when you see litter, you ''pick it up'', don't you?"


[[folder: Web Original ]]

* PlayedForLaughs: Website/{{Fark}} has many headlines that fall into this, mostly for local legislatures who, "having solved all other problems", get to work on something mostly innocuous. Also, whenever doctors come up with some silly technological innovation, you can be sure there'll be a Fark headline about it ending with, "Still no cure for cancer."
* During a HeatWave, you might see a blurb (sometimes on a picture, sometimes as a {{Facebook}} status, what have you) about how "I'm not going to complain about the heat today because soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan not only experience heat every day, but carry lots of equipment through it and may not even survive the day." [[ Here's a sample.]]
** The inverse applies to a milder extent: Don't complain about how cold it is. Ever. Especially if it's above 0 C. Unless you want to get in a FlameWar with those who live in colder climates.
** Similarly, complaining about the aftermath of a tropical storm/small hurricane or small earthquake will likely get you blasted by people who experienced far worse storms and quakes every year.
* Greta Christina lists this as one of the standard [[ "Shut up, that's why!"]] arguments used to shut off discussion.
* During Website/{{Facebook}}'s university-student-only days, there would often be groups titled along the lines of "Finish Your Drink, There Are Sober Kids In India". (This was later turned into a mildly popular dorm-room poster.)
* Unfortunately [[Website/{{Cracked}} David Wong]] makes this mistake in his article [[ 7 Reasons the World Looks Worse Than It Really Is]] claiming people complaining about the economy making opportunity scarce are only doing so because they have no unique skills, or give up trying and become cynical. Ignoring the fact that one can both complain and work for a better world as well.


[[folder: Real Life ]]

* This (specifically the starving African children) has become a fairly popular T-Shirt. It personifies Africa as saying "And you think you have problems..."
* During The Troubles in Northern Ireland, this was about half of what was disparaged by the term [[ "whataboutery]]" (the other half being hypocrisy).
* Mocked on the Internet where someone once said, "If we really had no right to complain about stuff because others have it worse, then by that logic, people like MichaelMoore and every radio talk show host should be out of a job, and most of the northern hemisphere should be ''dead silent'', because the only people who have a right to complain are those in Somalia, Afghanistan, Sudan, etc."
* Usually after some big tragedy in the U.S. (9/11, Sandy Hook Shooting, Boston Bombings etc.) there will be always someone saying that nobody sheds a tear for the children killed in U.S. military bombings.
* This is the core of arguments along the line of "We shouldn't worry about or address the problems of X caused by Y, because Y has more/worse problems caused by X", especially when solving the problems of Y will not address the problems of X.
* Just look at how people respond to celebrity confessions! Whenever a famous celebrity expresses some kind of personal fear or angst, there will be people using this argument (in combination with the person's status as a famous celebrity) to say that his/her problems are somehow invalid. Music/TaylorSwift, [[{{Series/Girls}} Lena Dunham]] and recently [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Jake Lloyd]] (after admitting to the constant bullying/teasing he endured from classmates after playing Anakin Skywalker) are just a few celebrities that tend to frequently get this argument lobbed at them. Things like a drug problem, childhood trauma, deep personal fears, and so forth are legitimate problems no matter what hemisphere you live in or how much money or resources you have.
* Ken Jennings (that guy who won all the money on ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'') points out the ridiculousness of this in his book ''Because I Said So!: The Truth Behind the Myths, Tales, and Warnings Every Generation Passes Down to Its Kids''.
* This was the reaction of several people when they learned how much money people in developed countries spend on their pets, by saying that there are other human beings starving in other parts of the world.
* On the flip side, many citizens of Africa are getting tired of being the go-to location for this trope.
* Several WorstNewsJudgementEver accusations can actually be this.
* Unfortunately, this can actually have very negative effects in real life. People with problems are told that theirs are insignificant, or tell themselves that their problems are insignificant, and may end up not getting help or not telling anyone. This can end very badly.
* The argument that many a young person struggling to find meaningful work and earn enough money to, you know, ''be an adult'' has been heard constantly: "Just be happy to work at BurgerFool! At least you have a job! Not everyone can say that in this economy!"
** And its corollary: "If you're not happy making minimum wage, get up off your lazy entitled ass, stop whining, and apply for a ''real'' job!" Which ignores the possibility of the person receiving this argument a) doesn't whine ''constantly'', only sometimes and b) more importantly ''has'' actually been searching but fruitlessly.
** It gets worse if you're stuck in an unpaid internship, which is illegal in most civilized countries (that's why the minimum wage is called a minimum rather than a suggestion) but persists solely because of the "no right to complain" mantra. Apparently you're a communist if you demand to be given ''something'' in exchange for the work you do, while the rich are entitled to have their toilets cleaned for free.
* Opponents of President Obama's drone strikes program are frequently admonished by Obama supporters that the Republicans are far worse.
* Some respond to legitimate feminist concerns (like sexist {{Double Standard}}s in media) with "Female genital mutilation happens in the Middle East and Africa, yet all you do is whine about the shortage of women in Western media!"
** By the same token, this is also used as a response to advocates of men's issues, typically in the form of "Overall, men don't have it as bad, so they can't possibly have it worse than women in certain spheres."
** It's also worth noting that people on both sides of these debates will criticize their opponents for using this tactic, [[{{Hypocrite}} then use it themselves]] without even a hint of self-awareness.
* This argument is often used to shame suicidal people, criticizing them for wanting to take their own lives when other people deal with much "worse" circumstances. Many religious and ethical systems consider suicide the "ultimate act of selfishness" for this reason. What these people don't realize is that suicide is usually the result of mental illnesses like depression, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia, which are actually very serious problems. Also, if a person is in a position where they are continually being dominated and pushed around, and for one reason or another see no option to escape (for example, a child in an abusive household who grows up in a community that supports that behavior; ditto a woman with an abusive husband whose community keeps blocking her efforts to break free), they may be thinking of taking their own lives because they think this will "free" them not only from being dominated, but from subsequently being told that their resulting pain does not exist.
* Sometimes when somebody points out a particular instance of bias, discrimination, or prejudice against traditionally empowered, privileged, and/or majority group (such as men or White people), people will respond with, "But that's nothing compared to what (traditionally oppressed group X) has been through," or "(empowered group) couldn't possibly ever suffer prejudice." This ignores the fact that even if society in general favors group A over group B, it does not preclude isolated instances of prejudice against group A, nor does it make such instances justified or excusable.
* The deaths of celebrities can be met with these, when ''Franchise/FastAndFurious'' star, Paul Walker, died in a car crash there was no lack of people who [[ accused the public]] of crying over the death of one rich guy than worrying about people dying in wars.
** Famously when Music/MichaelJackson died, Hugo Chavez criticized the newspapers [[WorstNewsJudgementEver for reporting this on their front pages]] rather than the 2009 Honduras coup d'etat.
* In the lead-up to Valentines Day 2014, there was a common Facebook meme being shared, which said something like "feeling sad about not having a date on Valentines Day? Shut the f!ck up, cos some people have lost both their parents, so get over your non-issues!", which is a perfect, and extremely sad, example of how some people use this fallacy.
* Video games aren't immune to the trope either. If a game has several glaring issues and someone dares to complain about them, fans of said game may try to shut down the complaining by saying how another game has way more problems.

!!!Looks like this fallacy but is not:

* When dealing with limited time or resources, and discussion or debate of the lesser problem is impeding the parties from solving or addressing the greater problem (e.g. "Rearranging the deck chairs on the ''Titanic''").
* When the worse issues are directly related to the subject in question (complaining that your car is wrecked when your loved ones are in critical condition because of the accident) or when it's used to rebut a deliberate [[NotSoDifferent attempt to lump together or equate]] both issues.
* When used as a counter to the hyperbole of "If there's one thing that..."