->''"Most humans are grey. And our job is to chastise the darker grey, correct?"''
-->--''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'', chapter 39 page 19.

In conflicts that feature GreyAndGrayMorality, neither side in the struggle is more "right" than the other due to both having well-justified goals that they accomplish by perpetrating acts of heroism ''and'' villainy.

At least, that's the way in works in theory.

In practice, either one side has more heroes than the other, or the writing portrays one side as, if not more "right," then at least [[SympatheticPOV more sympathetic.]]

The usual result is the story and struggle shifting tone, sometimes slightly, sometimes dramatically, making one side the heroes and the other the villains. Sometimes, to balance out this shift, authors will give the "good guys" opportunities to [[ShootTheDog show their pragmatism]], or they'll give the "bad guys" a chance to show off that they're [[PetTheDog not really that bad]]. How effective this is depends on a number of things, but suffice to say that it doesn't always work, in which case the tale continues to favor one group as "the heroes" over the other.

ALighterShadeOfBlack is this trope's EvilCounterpart. Of course, this is not one of the [[Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey 50 Shades of Grey]].



[[folder:Anime & Manga]]
* ''Anime/CodeGeass'': Lelouch when compared to Schneisel near the end. Schneisel had the same world peace goal as the Lelouch and Suzaku [[spoiler: but he was going [[MoralEventHorizon way too far with his plan of nuking major cities from orbit]] and thus came out darker]].
* The main "Federation vs. Zeon" conflict in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' (and the rest of the Universal Century) is much like this. The Federation as a whole was usually portrayed as being at worst a little corrupt and bureaucratic, while nearly everyone shown on the Zeon side (save Gihren) was portrayed sympathetically... Enough so that many fans [[RootingForTheEmpire forget]] that Zeon ''started'' the war by ''flooding a neutral colony with nerve gas and then [[ColonyDrop dropping it onto an Earth city]]'', an act that is stated in-universe to have killed millions of people, and sparked a war where before the first episode, ''50% of humanity was killed''. When ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' showed elements of the Federation as the bad guys (and [[TheAlliance AEUG]] was full of ex-Zeon soldiers, even TheDragon from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' being among them), works that came back to the One Year War era occasionally showed some Federation commanders as being outright {{General Ripper}}s as well as the sympathetic ones.
** Celestial Being in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' is definitely in the moral grey area: they are attempting world peace and unification, but their methods are essentially killing anyone who tries to start a war (or even ''promotes'' or ''prepares'' for war) in order to frighten people into non-violence. Their enemies are... well, the leading nations of the world, who are portrayed fairly realistically: a bit corrupt and doing a couple heinous things behind the scenes, but not openly malicious or oppressive. They become less gray and more white once Ribbons steps up his game as BigBad, though.
* ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' has a slight tendency towards this on a governmental level, insofar that for every corrupt and inefficient noble and inter-house spats shown in [[TheEmpire the Galactic Empire]], [[TheFederation the Free Planets' Alliance]] has three corrupt and inefficient politicians/military commanders breathing down Yang's neck and a civil war/complete breakdown of law and order every ten episodes. The first FPA politician who has both actual power and is presented at least partially sympathetically is [[spoiler:the man who is forced to take over after the Empire besieges Heinessen and forces the former cabinet to surrender.]]
* ''{{LightNovel/Slayers}}TRY'', which gets really confusing 2/3 of the way through when it seems like everyone wants the same thing but are on different sides.
* ''LightNovel/CrestOfTheStars'' [[SubvertedTrope subverts]] the usual portrayal of TheEmpire vs. TheFederation as a BlackAndGreyMorality: the [[FantasticRacism Four]] [[TheFederation Nations Alliance]] is the DesignatedVillain, while the [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Humankind]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] [[SpaceElves Abh]] is the DesignatedHero.
* The two "villanous" factions in ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' (Gendo and SEELE) are split like this. Both plan's involve TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt and a AssimilationPlot. SEELE's plan are the more ambigious one, but appearently it involves forcing the Assimilation Plot on all of mankind and use it to ascent into godhood. Gendo's plans, on the other hand, are more personal, and mostly revolves around being reunited with his wife. Notably, he outright compares SEELE's goal to "death" and utterly rejects it om those grounds.
* ''Manga/{{Jormungand}}'' is about an arms dealer who shamelessly calls herself and her organization evil, as the crew sell weapons to both sides to foster conflict and sales while gunning down anyone who gets in their way. However, besides their professions, the protagonists (bar perhaps the bosses themselves) really lack villainous or even amoral personality traits. The ex-military bodyguards in particular are as professional in their job as they would be in the military, and off-duty they are all fairly nice, sociable people willing to spare time from their breaks to teach a child soldier. On duty, they're all noted to relish killing a bit too much, but actually prefer sparing their enemies and avoiding psychotic murdering (in sharp contrast to enemy factions).
** A DrugsAreBad idea is in the background of "The Hill of Ruin" arc as a minor detail. Ugo, the team driver, was an ex-mafia member who was spared and subsequently recruited in a shootout because he looked in disgust at his boss paying Koko in drugs for her wares by recalling how his brother lost his life to drugs. Koko herself refuses payment in the present by ordering the execution of the entire proffering gang, with Lutz simply remarking that [[EveryoneHasStandards they weren't drug dealers]].
** Later, the crew go to Iraq to rebuild an elementary school, although under the blunt pretense of raising PR for the company. Still, they were all disgusted when Excalibur, a hired PMC, gunned down a civilian for fun on the road; immediately afterward, Koko fired them.
* ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'': The [[spoiler:Eldia vs. Marley]] conflict is either this ''or'' ALighterShadeOfBlack. It's not entirely clear yet.

[[folder:Comic Books]]
* Marvel's ''ComicBook/CivilWar'' was intended to feature [[GreyandGrayMorality ambiguous morals]] and sides that were not really more right than the other. In practice, the authors seemed to have missed the memo and increasingly portrayed the Pro-Registration side as the bad guys, made especially bad by the fact that [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]] (the figurehead and commander of the Pro-Registration forces) [[MoralEventHorizon commissioned the manufacture of an extradimensional KZ]] in a dimension referred to as ''worse than {{Hell}}'' and employed largely unrepentant supervillains to hunt down Anti-Registration heroes, in addition to the fact that the Anti-Registration side got almost no ShootTheDog moments (and had ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, the BigGood of the Marvel Universe, as their own figurehead).
** It also didn't help that every previous "superhuman registration" storyline (of which Marvel has done many) portrayed the idea as unambiguously wrong, often with thinly-veiled (or not veiled at all) references to Nazi concentration camps. Nor did they make more than a token attempt to explain how this registration act was different than the previous attempts, and perhaps worst of all, [[ContinuitySnarl failed to even consistently describe the]] ''[[ContinuitySnarl terms]]'' [[ContinuitySnarl of the act]].
* Mentioned by Catman when the ComicBook/SecretSix fought the Comicbook/DoomPatrol. His reasoning was that, though the Doom Patrol were heroes, both teams operated in a grey area of the superhuman community, so they should let the Six go. It does not work, since though Robotman concedes that he and the rest of the Doom Patrol are close to the line, they are still on ''this'' side of the line and the Six are on the ''wrong'' side of the line.
* ''ComicBook/VForVendetta'' is something like this. On one hand, it's a struggle between a repressive fascist government which may nevertheless be humanity's last hope in a nuclear-holocaust blighted world, and a fanatical anarchist terrorist who has absolutely no qualms about blowing up buildings and killing people to get his way, and whose efforts may ultimately doom humanity. On the other, however, the government is genocidal (having wiped out racial minorities and the LGBT population, amongst others) and composed pretty much entirely of hateful, dysfunctional and irredeemable bastards, while V is an incredibly charismatic guy who only lost his sanity after said regime used him for experimentation fodder, and who we first see rescuing a young girl from government hired rapists, and who comes to happily admit that [[NoPlaceForMeThere he's got no place in the better world he's trying to create]]. It's certainly not a black and white situation, but it's hard to argue that V doesn't come across as a hell of a lot more sympathetic than the Norsefire government.
** As V himself puts it, he is the ''monster'' created by their ''monstrous'' actions.
* The Five in ''{{ComicBook/Birthright}}'' are a ragtag group of mages from another dimension that are sworn to defend Earth from an extremely powerful entity that has taken control of their home. With that said, their members range from being selfish that are OnlyInItForTheMoney to [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]] that have no problem murdering innocents, and as a whole, the group is largely indifferent to collateral damage so long its to stop their enemy from invading Earth although, in order for him to do this, he has to kill each of the Five who serve as [[BarrierMaiden living barriers]]. It speaks volumes that the nicest member of the group is treated as a deadbeat parent to their family.


[[folder:Fan Works]]
* Played with in ''Fanfic/DungeonKeeperAmi'' in an interesting manner. The world of ''VideoGame/DungeonKeeper'' works under the principle of BlackAndWhiteMorality and the ''Anime/SailorMoon'' world is the same. However, due to circumstances, Ami (who bonded to a villainous artifact, but is a Heroine) actually creates shades of grey, both in the ranks of the villains, and the heroes. Cathy and Jered, for example, darken. [[spoiler: Jadite]] on the other hand, lightens quite a bit.
* In ''Fanfic/TiberiumWars'', even though the story is supposed to be about both sides equally, the author has admitted that he favors GDI over the Brotherhood of Nod, and the portrayal does reflect this; GDI characters have a few more scenes than the Nod side, and the GDI troops are portrayed as more sympathetic than their Nod counterparts, who generally come off as religious fanatics.
* ''Fanfic/FrigidWindsAndBurningHearts'' is supposedly an attempt to balance out Princess Celestia (who's had to do some very unpleasant things to keep Equestria from collapsing on itself) and Princess Luna (who wants Equestria to run itself and values freedom... but doesn't realize the price). However, the author is rather clearly on Luna's side, with Celestia being portrayed again and again as a tyrant and those under her as monsters, while Luna is the viewpoint character and all of the sympathetic characters are on her side. After a while, the grey unmixes into black and white (no pun intended).

[[folder:Films -- Live-Action]]
* In ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'', almost all the characters have perpetrated acts of murder, some are guilty of rape, and yet others plan [[spoiler: nuclear scale destruction]]. Out of them all, the Watchman who comes out looking most like the good guy is Nite Owl (Dan Dreiberg) whose worst sin is being a little bit boring. Arguably, the one who comes out looking like the worst bad guy is the Comedian, whose killings, unlike those committed by [[spoiler: Ozymandias]], had no grander purpose than eliminating those considered a threat by the US government.
* "Eye in the Sky" consists almost entirely of discussions and debate over whether they should drone strike a building where several wanted terrorists are at, and where 2 suicide bombers are getting ready, when there is an innocent little girl in the line of fire. The film presents both sides of the debate, and doesn't give credence to either line of thought, with both sides making good points. Ultimately [[spoiler: they decide to bomb it, and the girl dies]] and the film makes it clear that this decision haunted everyone, showing that even though they did what they thought was right, it was still the least awful decision.

* House Atreides in ''Franchise/{{Dune}}'' is a good example of this trope, although ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' is only GreyAndGreyMorality if you consider the 'other side' to ultimately include the Corrino Emperor rather than just being the AlwaysChaoticEvil Harkonnens.
* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and its TV adaptation ''Series/GameOfThrones'', House Stark is basically a mixture of decent-if-naive and normal-if-cynical people, though (by virtue of kicking their ass in a war a while back) unfortunately have [[TokenEvilTeammate House Bolton]] fighting for their side, who are a bunch of power-hungry sadists. Their arch-enemies House Lannister, however, while having somewhat decent-if-cynical-and-manipulative people like Tyrion (and, possibly, Jaime, though he has done some really bad stuff), or Cersei's innocent younger children, are generally a bunch of ruthless, backstabbing, power hungry assholes who are willing to put TheCaligula on the throne if [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans that is what keeps them in power]], and employ evil psychopaths like Gregor Clegane without batting an eye. And while Tywin, the head of the House, may be [[PragmaticVillainy pragmatic]] enough to know how to run the economy properly and keep the peasants happy and well-fed, he is still a monumental {{Jerkass}} who has entire families butchered and treats his children like dirt.

[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Despite the series' overwhelming BlackAndGrayMorality, characters like the Starks, Tyrion Lannister, and Daenerys Targaryen are portrayed sympathetically despite their more heinous actions.
* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' is much less black and white as the seasons progress. Especially when you have angels whom are just as bad as the demons on the show. Maybe even worse. Sam and Dean in particular are the series' protagonists but at their worst can tend to fall into KnightTemplar territory when backed against the wall and especially when either of their lives are at stake and is more than willing to put innocents lives at risk for the sake of their own. Yet they're mankind's only hope against supernatural threats that would have no qualms in wiping out humanity.
* Joss Whedon's ''Series/{{Dollhouse}}'' is all about this trope. In season one, you have Paul Ballard, dangerously obsessed FBI agent who is projecting his own fantasy onto Caroline, and on the other side you have the Rossum Corporation, admittedly involved in human trafficking, and in the middle, playing one against the other, a madman and AxCrazy whose insanity was, at least partially, inflicted upon him by the Dollhouse. In season two, the enemy is the Rossum Corporation's upper management, versus Adelle [=DeWitt=] and the rapidly self-aware Actives. Adelle crosses some {{Moral Event Horizon}}s, but ends up being more [[SympatheticPOV sympathetic]] than her fellow co-workers simply by being less evil than the rest of the Rossum Corporation.
* Very much the case on ''Series/TrueBlood''. [[AntiVillain Vampires]] [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire publicly try to fit in with human society]], while [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveSupernaturalPowers utterly ignoring human law and morality every chance they get]]. They frequently commit murder, mind control people, imprison them, perform torture and engage in a wide range of other criminal behaviors. The main romantic leads of the series are not exceptions, but are not only hugely attractive to the heroine, but to the [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys female fanbase at large]]. To keep this from becoming a ALighterShadeOfBlack situation, efforts are usually made to make the vampire protagonists at least [[AffablyEvil superficially]] [[EvilIsSexy appealing]], while introducing enemies that seem to be [[BigBad much worse]] which they will help save the day from.
* In ''Series/YesMinister'', both Hacker (an elected MP) and Sir Humphrey (an unelected civil servant) always have their own interests at heart when deciding government policy. However, Hacker, while not entirely free of venal self-interest (he's often willing to put 'what will get me re-elected' over 'what is the right thing to do' when push comes to shove) almost always ends up the most sympathetic of the pair; he's often at least aware of what would be best for the people, and will try to fight for a cause he truly believes is right. Sir Humphrey is just unashamedly amoral about achieving his goals, and even the more seemingly justifiable of them will usually be tinged with a hint of self-interest.
* Within the protagonist group in ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' Shane is definitely the darker, pure survival oriented SociopathicHero to Rick who thinks not only of the group but even of others outside the group and makes a conscious effort to cling to his morality.
* The conflict between alternate universes was mostly portrayed this way in ''Series/{{Fringe}}''. It was often commented on by critics that the only reason viewers sympathized with the prime universe over the alternate is because the focus was on the prime universe (when [[spoiler:the two sides declared a truce and audiences saw the alternate universe ''not'' trying to wipe out the prime]], they became a lot more sympathetic). It should be noted that the origin of the conflict was a child abduction perpetrated by someone from the prime universe. To make it grey-er, the abduction ''saved the child's life'' (and was initially meant to last only long enough to do just that before returning him).

[[folder:Pro Wrestling]]
* The All Night Express were the lighter shade during their feud against [[Wrestling/TheWorldsGreatestTagTeam Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team]], at least after ''Boarder Wars'' in 2012. While both teams were made up of {{jerk jock}}s, the Express still respected their coworkers and the CodeOfHonor, while Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin had lost sight of why they appreciated Wrestling/RingOfHonor and its {{tag team}} division.[[/folder]]

[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
* ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' the Inner Sphere houses can be viewed as this, as they are fighting each other as they see themselves as the rightful heirs of the Sphere, and they don't want the other houses to eliminate them. Of course each houses have their darker moments. The Federated Suns and the Lyran Commonwealth have leaders who put shame in the family name, most notably Katherine Stiener-Davion. While the Draconis Combine and the Cappellan Confederation have ruthlessly killed billions in a single planet when their leaders felt like doing it. The Free Worlds on the other hand have a long history of constant squabbling, and the [[spoiler:true Thomas Marik]] formed the Word of Blake and orchestrated the destructive war known as the Jihad.

* Despite the houses of Montague and Capulet being stressed as "alike in dignity" in the prologue of ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'', the Montagues come off looking a lot better in many adaptations, probably because they feature a lot less. Then again, in the original text itself the Capulets come off as a BigScrewedUpFamily consisting of a warlike father, a weak-willed mother, a painfully naive daughter, and a dangerously HotBlooded nephew; meanwhile, Lord Montague ''does'' try to join the opening brawl but is relieved his son Romeo avoided it, and the main characters in ''his'' house are WideEyedIdealist Romeo and OnlySaneMan Benvolio. The most volatile non-Capulet in the play, Mercutio, isn't even a Montague- he's related to the prince. It's not hard to conjecture that the Montagues may be just as involved in the feud, but there's a strong chance of a much more functional private family life.

[[folder:Video Games]]
* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'', one side of the Lion War rallies behind Prince Goltana, the other behind Prince Larg, the church has got its fingers in the conflict, [[spoiler: not to mention the Lucavi,]] and then there's your player group. Out of the two main sides involved in the war, those siding with Prince Larg come out looking more like good guys, in general, by virtue of not having [[MagnificentBastard Delita]] on their side. Out of all groups, though, the player's party comes out looking like the best good guys of all, but whether that's due to the main character's [[UnwittingPawn being played]] or being honestly virtuous is a matter of debate.
** If you just focus on Goltana and Larg, it is straight GrayAndGrayMorality.
* Both ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' and ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' revolve around this conflict. It's less obvious in 3 as the Brotherhood act mostly as white knights, but are capable of doing very unpleasant things, such as murdering Ghouls on sight and killing civilans outside of Megaton. But not on the same scale as the Enclave who plan on killing anyone with even the slightest form of mutation. The NCR are a diverse, wealthy, democratic, powerful, prosperous, and expansionist federation that greatly improve standards of living in any given region, but they are often greedy and corrupt. In contrast to Caesar's Legion, an evil empire that endorses slavery, child soldiers, rape, paedophelia and torture, and Mr. House, a greedy, despotic, egotistical, dictator who is not above destroying factions that he considers a potential threat, they seem like saints.
** Of course, Mr. House is himself a Lighter Shade of Grey compared to the Legion. While by no means a nice man, he has no interest in actively persecuting the people of the Mojave and provided that they simply follow his rules and not remain a threat he runs a prosperous resort town open to anyone for the right price. If one takes a harsh enough view of the NCR's problems with corruption and imperialism and believes Mr. House genuinely wants to help humanity and has the means to do so the player can even view him as a lighter shade of grey to the NCR, especially since under [[GeneralRipper Colonel Moore]] the NCR is ''also'' willing to wipe out rival factions and commit political assassinations against potential threats.
** In Fallout 3's DLC The Pitt, the main conflict you must invariably choose a side in is a conflict between an AntiVillain and an AntiHero. On the one hand there's Lord Ashur, who uses slave labor guarded by raiders to revive the steel mills in the ruins of old world Pittsburg, but who plans to free the slaves once The Pitt is its own superpower, as well as finding a cure for the sickness that turns the inhabitants of The Pitt into troglodytes. On the other hand, there's Werner, Ashur's former lieutenant who wants to free the slaves of Ashur's rule (and has the support of the people), but does it primarily so that he can rule The Pitt in Ashur's stead. Werner is in fact the one who brings in outside help (read: you) to tip the scales in his favor, and he conveniently fails to mention the whole "controlling The Pitt" thing, not to mention the [[spoiler: cure for the trog disease is within Ashur's own infant daughter.]]
* ''VideoGame/{{Madworld}}''. Jack, by his own words kills people rather than helping them and participates in a snuff competition, Death Watch. [[spoiler: Leo's Dad]] organized Death Watch [[spoiler: as a cover to show off his virus which, in the context of Death Watch all it did was clear out most of the innocent bystanders, cleanly overshadowed by THE FUCKING DEATH WATCH.]] And [[spoiler: Leo]] is even worse, who helped with the plan ForTheEvulz. So naturally Jack kills them all with relish.
* The Spectres from ''Franchise/MassEffect'' fall into this category, within their own organisation. Their Agents given full authority to do ''anything'' to get the job done, but exactly how far they go to accomplish their objectives is left completely at the discretion of any individual Agent. Hence the reason why it took over ''twenty years'' before [[BigBad Saren]] finally lost his Spectre status, and then only because Shepard was able to provide conclusive evidence of treason.
** Lampshaded in ''Lair of the Shadow Broker'', where Shepard berates Tela Vasir for betraying the Spectres by working with the Shadow Broker. Vasir throws it right back at them, that ''Shepard'' is working with Cerberus, so how are they ''[[NotSoDifferent different]]''?
** The Spectres arguably are this to the Asari Justicars. The Justicars are an ancient order that patrol Asari Space in pursuit of justice and adhere to a highly strict Code that dictates what they can and cannot do. This can allow them to kill anyone who gets in their way, ''including'' other law-enforcers, should they be foolish enough to try to apprehend them. ''This rarely happens.''
* In theory this is the portrayal of the Assassin's Guild that ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' is seeking. Being a clan of assassins, it would be fairly obvious that they're doing a lot of murdering in their line of work but it is set against the backdrop of trying to stop the ingresses of the Templar Order, which seeks to put the world under its fist (as their [[KnightTemplar namesake trope]] would suggest). However the reality is the Templar Order's doctrine is so obviously totalitarian that there's really no way anyone would agree the world would be better under them, making the conflict considerably more of the BlackAndGrayMorality.
* King Foltest in ''Franchise/TheWitcher'' is regarded as a arrogant, sister-humping warmonger, but he ends up being one of the least morally-repugnant leaders in the series as well as the most moral monarchs compared to others such as King Henselt of Kaedwin who is [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Fantasy Josef Stalin]], as well as King Radovid of Temeria and Emperor Emhyr var Emreis, both of whom are practically [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adolf Hitler stand-ins]], performing cleansing against undesirables (in this case magic users) and the latter going on in expansionist campaigns against other kingdoms that are generally regarded as inferiors.
* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' the main characters go around destroying everything in their path and half of the party are anti-heroes of varying degrees. Their enemy, the Abbey, however, are a group of {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s attempting to wipe out free will in order to rid the world of Malevolence, which causes humans to become Daemons [[spoiler: due to the effects of a curse placed on humans by the Seraphs of the Heavenly Realm]] who use very objectionable methods to achieve that end.
* In the conflict between [[spoiler: Akane and Delta]] in ''VisualNovel/ZeroEscape'' trilogy both sides have [[WellIntentionedExtremist noble goals]] and small graveyard of [[ShootTheDog dogs shot]] on the path to these goals. However while the former tries to minimise casualties and colateral damage whenever possible, the latter tends to be excesively cruel and some actions like [[spoiler: killing everyone except Diana]] in one of the endings of ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma'' seem like [[KickTheDog pointless cruelty]], making [[spoiler: Akane]] clearly lighter gray than the other.
* ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': The Republic are hardly saints, with LawfulStupid, HolierThanThou Jedi, crooked politicians, massive sentient rights abuses on Belsalvis, alliances with crime bosses and outright terrorists, and generals operating on DoUntoOthersBeforeTheyDoUntoUs. However, The Sith Empire is a theocracy led by AxCrazy nutjobs (who can rape, maim, kill, and otherwise terrorize citizens and face zero legal repercussions), an army that wants to imitate the [[KlingonPromotion worst]] [[WeHaveReserves aspects]] of the Sith (including using civilians for live target practice), openly practice slavery and consider anyone who isn't Sith species, human, or Chiss as nothing more than a SlaveRace...unless they are Force Sensitive (making the AxCrazy sorcerer cabal the closest thing to an actual meritocracy). The [[ProudWarriorRace Mandalorians]] are only [[PunchClockVillain showing up for the paycheck]] and they don't consider the Sith {{WorthyOpponent}}s. The OnlySaneEmployee ([[StateSec Imperial Intelligence]]) is left to mop up the mess as best they can. Oh, and the whole thing is led by an OmnicidalManiac nutjob who wants to kill off all life on both side of the conflict to become a god.

[[folder:Web Comics]]
* In ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'', it's WordOfGod that "There are no heroes or villains", but [[http://wiki.drowtales.com/index.php/Nidraa%27chal the Nidraa'chal clan]] is "the threat".
* ''Webcomic/{{Terra}}'' operates on a whole spectrum of grey, with the Resistance on the almost-white side. They're an [[TheAlliance alliance]] of [[LaResistance colonial militias and resistance groups]] using guerrilla warfare and [[PayEvilUntoEvil assassination]] to put an end to a corrupt ForeverWar between two powerful empires and hopefully get a FictionalUnitedNations set up.
* ''Webcomic/GeneralProtectionFault'' has the ongoing feud between Fred and Trent. Both sides flame each other online and play pranks on each other, to the point at which [[BenevolentBoss Dwayne]] tells them that he won't hesitate to fire them if they don't shape up, but Fred is the more sympathetic of the two. While he abuses his newfound MindControl ability to force Trent to sexually harass Sharon, expose himself to Dwayne and a customer, and ultimately get arrested, Trent actually tried to kill Fred by [[WeaksauceWeakness spraying him with cleaning fluid]]. Just as Fred accepts Nicole's advice and abandons his plans to sue Trent for libel, Trent manages to find a lawyer who will believe him and serves Fred with a lawsuit.

[[folder:Web Original]]
* ''Literature/IlivaisX'' inverts the usual here: Iriana may have been horribly broken by the Aztec Empire, but her goal isn't REALLY to end the war and create a free society, it's to get revenge. Meanwhile, both empires have been at war with each other for centuries, but they're mostly not bad people, and they've maintained a society that works very nicely for the people in all that time.
* ''Literature/TheSolsticeWar'' the story goes into the heads of a lot of Ayvartans and Nochtish people but in the end the Ayvartans receive much more of the story's sympathy than Nocht, who are imperialistic invaders. However, the Ayvartan government is none too rosy either, being wracked with corruption and mismanagement.

[[folder:Western Animation]]
* Played with in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague''. In the show's earlier run, when it was simply known as ''Justice League,'' the show's heroes and villains were [[BlackAndWhiteMorality pretty unambiguous]]. Fast forward to the second part, entitled ''Justice League Unlimited.'' The heroes make some [[ShootTheDog morally questionable choices]], and the "villains" arrayed against them (Project Cadmus) are suddenly cast [[GreyAndGrayMorality in a whole new light]]. In the end, though, Cadmus ends up disbanding due to its long streak of mistakes while the League sticks around, so they ultimately remain the "good guys" of the story.