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!!Book

[[folder:Publishing]]
* If the whole book in its Muggle-published form is supposed to be an artifact from the Potterverse, does that mean Dumbledore wrote the introduction years after his supposed death?
** Maybe this is another facet of his Will. He writes the commentary well before hand, then writes in his Will “in the event of my death, it is my request that these books should find their way to the muggle population”
** Which of course leads to the question: how does Dumbledore - in his will or in person - have the right to publish an exact copy of Harry Potter's personal property?
** Dumbledore, break the law? Surely not.
** Maybe it was Harry's idea?
** Dumbledore's intro specifically states Harry agreed to it.
** Is the commentary not simply in the original book? Seems quite logical that the textbook would include some of the history behind the classification of magical creatures. Dumbledore was a highly intelligent and decorated wizard. Not out of the realm of possibility that he leant commentary to a textbook. I think the book is meant to be the one that Harry actually used in class. Essentially Harry's copy has been duplicated and sold to muggles.
** The foreword by Dumbledore specifically mentions the whole idea of copying the book and selling it to Muggles. My theory is that Dumbledore was probably somehow involved in bringing the first book out to Muggles (note that ''Philosopher's Stone'' was released only a few days before his death) and the project was continued in his memory, including consultations with his portrait, who probably dictated the foreword. He didn't let on to the Muggle audience that he was dead because the sixth book wasn't out yet and he didn't want to spoil things.

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[[folder:Fourth Book]]
* Why do the graffities in the book reference the events up to the fourth book, but not afterwards? Harry and Ron gave up Care of Magical Creatures in their sixth year, but in their fifth they still should have used the book.
** It's possible that, that's when their copy was copied.
** Or they were a little more mature in their fifth year - [[FridgeBrilliance maybe one of Umbridge's Educational Decrees banned writing in books]].
** [[TyrantTakesTheHelm Umbridge]] making a ''reasonable'' rule? Surely not.
** Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Dolores was a sociopath par excellence but on some level a lot of her comments were correct. Lying is wrong, after all.
** Then why is the entire regarding population doing it all day every day to almost everyone who isn't them?
** In RealLife this book was released between ''Goblet'' and ''Order'' (not to take away the validity of the above headscratchers, just pointing it out to anyone who doesn't know)
** They don't seem to study Dark creatures in their fifth year (or at least under Umbridge) or in 6th year either. So they probably stopped using it for class and therefore no longer had the opportunity to write in it.
** And it might be that this book only gives a general overlook of the creatures. When starting Care of Magical Creatures class, they're assigned a different book - so it's possible they just stopped using this one.
** That's true. In fact, Hagrid SPECIFICALLY has a different book used in one year. The "Monster book of Monsters".
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!!Film

[[folder:Newt and Hogwarts]]
* Dude was kicked out of Hogwarts for "endangering human lives". Hogwarts. The school that has a house entirely dedicated to turning out what are for all intents and purposes wizard nazis literally since its founding. Just how dangerous was his research that even Hogwarts was like "Nah, we don't want none of that"?
** Because that's not generalizing at all. First off, it's not the school's fault if some of its students grow up to be pureblood supremacists or Death Eaters, and they don't just come from one house - need I remind you of Peter Pettigrew, for example? As Dumbledore says, "It is our choices, not our abilities, that define who we are." Most of the Slytherins we saw during Harry's time at school were just a bunch of schoolyard bullies who were ''descended'' from former Death Eaters (apart from Slughorn), and many of them were able to put their parents' backgrounds aside and fight for the school. It's even been mentioned that by the time Draco is there to send his son to Hogwarts - he's sending his son to a school that he formerly belittled and mocked at every opportunity - he's apparently matured enough to be on civil terms with Harry, and realized the mistakes he made when he was young to the point where he ensured Scorpio wouldn't turn out like him.
** The bit about Draco is confirmed in [[spoiler: HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild]].
** Not to mention Hagrid was previously expelled from Hogwarts after a very long string of incidents that could be called dangerous as well, such as keeping werewolf cubs under his bed and numerous other moments like that. Scamander may have done something like that, but whatever caused his expulsion wasn't serious enough to have him lose his wand like Hagrid did.
** Going off of this, Hagrid probably lost his wand because one of his mistakes (supposedly) ended up killing another student, but he wasn't sent to Azkaban because it was labeled as an accident and he hadn't meant to hurt anybody. Fred, George, and Newt Scamander may have performed similar dangerous experiment and were promptly expelled from the school, but those experiments hadn't injured anyone, so they kept their wands and escaped without punishment. (Also, the three of them were old enough to legally use magic outside of school, which probably contributed, as well - Hagrid was still underage, so his wand being snapped makes a lot more sense.)
** Presumably Dumbledore's predecessor as the headmaster was a lot more of a stickler for expelling people than Albus turned out to be.
** Because the Wizard Nazis are smart enough not to, as the saying goes, "shit where they eat?" They also don't blow up school buildings. Note that when Fred and George Weasley did the 'explosions' thing? They were promptly expelled.
** Um, no they weren't. The twins left of their own accord because they weren't going to put up with Umbridge's crap anymore. The "explosions" (also known as fireworks) were a deliberate celebration of chaos to stick in to her one more time before they left for good.
** Or, alternately, they punished Newt as much they could under Hogwarts rules, but what he did wasn't technically illegal and wand snapping can only be done by the government, not the school...and then the Ministry, learning of this, promptly made it ''illegal'' to keep dangerous pets while at Hogwarts, so Hagrid gets actual legal penalties in addition to being expelled.
** Or, even more alternately, half-giants are only allowed within Wizarding society by the grace of the Ministry of Magic, so can be kicked out at will.

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[[folder:Graves' past]]

* Did Grindelwald [[spoiler:pull a KillAndReplace on an actual Auror named Percival Graves [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Barty Crouch]]-style (minus the kill obviously), or was it just a fake identity he assumed?]]
** Actually, I was wrong - [[spoiler: Percival Graves was indeed a real person as confirmed by the wiki]] - this instead leaves to the FridgeHorror that [[spoiler: This did not look like a Polyjuice potion... meaning he probably ''did'' pull a KillAndReplace]]. The real question would then be [[spoiler: Wouldn't anyone have noticed something was wrong, especially the local empath?]], but I think that [[spoiler: FridgeBrilliance - Graves kept a distance from her, Grindelwald knew to do so as well, and probably had techniques such as Occlumency to keep himself from being "read" as a fake.]]
** If Grindelwald had [[spoiler:disguised himself as Graves with Polyjuice Potion]], then it must have been a feat on the order of [[spoiler: Alastor Moody's impersonation for an entire school year. Given how Crouch Jr./Moody attracted some attention for his hip flask, and how it requires drinking the potion ''every hour'', and more must be continuously made and a stock must be kept on hand at all times since it requires one month to brew - thus preventing Grindelwald from killing the real Graves - this is an extremely tall order even if it can be done. But since Graves is a high-ranked Auror as compared to a Hogwarts teacher who might have a lot of alone time during which he could hide all the evidence more easily, I doubt even someone of Grindelwald's skill and capability could pull this off for long. Granted, it's unknown for how long this impersonation had been active.]]
** [[spoiler: Considering that Grindelwald was able to prevent Voldemort himself from reading his mind ''after'' he'd been in prison for fifty odd years, I'm pretty sure he'd have no problems masking any thoughts from Queenie]]
** Also Queenie said she had difficulty reading British minds. It wouldn't be hard to believe she would also have difficulty with other European minds [[spoiler:and depending on the theory, Grindelwald was either from Germany, Eastern Europe, or Scandinavia]].
** Also, occlumency exists.

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[[folder:Revealing spell]]

* So wait a moment, just how did Newt know to [[spoiler: cast a revealing spell on Percival Graves]]? Did I miss something like him maybe [[spoiler: saying something that only Grindelwald would say]] during a previous scene when the two interacted? [[spoiler: Such as when he sentences them to death]].
** "Graves" was able to fend off several dozen Aurors at once. That's not something an ordinary wizard can do, even one high up in government.
** Fair. It still seems a little strange of a conclusion to make (Sure, he didn't suspect that [[spoiler: he was really Grindelwald]] until after he was revealed), but it does seem a little broad of a conclusion to take that Graves is [[spoiler: an imposter]] just because he appears to be able to perform such a feat. Unless it was stated that only [[spoiler: Grindelwald and Dumbledore could even think of doing that]] earlier on?
** Graves was [[spoiler: ranting on just before then about how the statute of secrecy was useless and outdated and needed to be dismantled which, as we learned earlier in the movie while he was interrogating Newt, is a viewpoint commonly held by Grindelwald sympathizers. Add that to the fact that he was also clearly attempting to recruit/use Credence — which, as Newt was asking earlier, isn't what you should be doing with an Obscurial when you should be saving them instead — and it probably wasn't hard for him to put together that this guy was not Graves.]]
** [[spoiler: The first sign Graves gave off as to his real goals was when he offhandedly remarked that the Obscurial with no host was "useless", and Newt definitely picked up on that oddity on the spot. From then on, I imagine he was just going on a hunch that Graves might be someone else in disguise, but not necessarily Grindelwald.]]
** Newt's suspicions about [[spoiler: Graves in fact start in the interrogation. When Graves asks "So the Obscurus is useless without the host?", Newt is horrified and asks Graves what on earth he'd even want to use an Obscurus for. Graves them seems to have realised he's slipped up and immediately changes the subject which sparks Newt's suspicions further. When the group meet with Gnarlak, Newt asks Gnarlak about Graves and his background. Gnarlak's expression confirms to Newt there's something there to confirm his suspicions, as the script specifies that Gnarlak's expression indicates "there is much he could say, but he'd rather die than say it". All this plays on Newt's suspicions that Graves might not be who he seems to be. Add in Graves's actions in the climax and it's more than enough for Newt to think "Maybe this guy isn't who he appears to be... what if he's someone else?".]]
** [[spoiler: "this guy not Graves" but why? Newt has never met the real Graves. He has no basis for saying this is a different person. It would have been more logical to just assume the real Graves has become a Grindelwald sympathizer then that he has been replaced. It's not as if government workers are above that.]]
** [[spoiler: It might not have been "this man isn't Graves" so much as "something about this guy is 'off'". Perhaps the Revelio charm would also expose magical influence, and Newt simply had suspicions of something odd.]]
** [[spoiler: There's also the matter that Graves has the Deathly Hallows symbol sticking out of his pocket during his interrogation of Newt. It's not beyond reason for Newt to have spotted that, and at least come to the conclusion that--as it's unlikely a high-level Auror could have made it this far and been a Grindewald supporter--that this man might just be an imposter.]]
** There's also the fact that supporting material has revealed that the real Percival Graves is a friend and correspondent of Newt's older brother Theseus. If Theseus and Newt are close, Newt might be going off his elder brother's description of his friend, or the fact that Theseus is unlikely to approve of, let alone actually ''like'' someone of Grindlewald's beliefs.
** You see? That's what is frustrating about this movie. They had oppertunities to connect the characters in meaningful ways but either don't or don't say it in the movie. If it's not in the movie then it does not help the audience.


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[[folder:Ending and the wand]]

* So a massive plot hole is on the way with how this film ended. [[spoiler: Grindelwald is of course defeated at the end of the film by Newt, but given the timeline of the series, he is also already in possession of the Elder Wand at this point. His defeat at the hands of Newt means the Elder Wand's loyalty passes to him and thus it can't continue down the normal path of Dumbledore and Draco to Harry. We know the Elder Wand is Harry's in the end as Harry uses it both to defeat Voldemort and repair his wand. It could also very well have passed on to Tina as she magics Grindelwald's wand away in case the Swooping Evil is considered the victorious force from before, but Tina taking his wand would account for the same defeat. Either way, J.K is going to have to be very careful how she handles it moving forward.]]
** [[spoiler:We don't know the exact mechanics of how the Elder Wand changes owners, but this is the first time we've seen it peacefully taken during an arrest rather than taking it during battle, magically disarming, or winning it through killing the other person.]]
** Yes. [[spoiler:When a person is arrested, at the end of that, or at the end of their sentence if convicted, their property is returned to them when they are released. Obviously, ''Graves'' won't, but she didn't know that when she disarmed him. He was just arrested for ranting like a madman and acting like he was about to go out and tell Muggles what was going on, so Tina was fully expecting that he would get his wand back. Maybe after a few years in jail, but eventually. To ''win'' a wand you probably have to intend to deprive someone of that wand ''permanently'' when you take it.]]
** [[spoiler:Nothing suggests or proves that the wand Grindelwald was using was the Elder Wand. In fact his consistent use of wandless magic up until the climax would imply he knew better than to use a wand which did not owe allegiance to him (Graves' wand), hence why he didn't use it until the end. And if he had been using the Elder Wand, the incredible power it contained would have given away his true nature even faster than the display he made against the Aurors. So the implication is that he had the Elder Wand hidden away somewhere, used wandless magic whenever he could, and only used Graves' wand when forced to at the climax--and it was this wand he was disarmed of, not the Elder Wand. So no conflict with canon.]]
** Additionally [[spoiler:Wand permits that are required in America and make it so that every wizard must first register to be legally eligible to carry a wand, with the punishment of not having one being imprisonment, prosecution or wand confiscation. So Grindelwald showing up with a legendary wand would have obviously tipped off some of the other wizards.]]
** [[spoiler: You don't need to be using the Elder Wand to lose its allegiance. Draco never even touches the Elder Wand but he loses it to Harry when Harry forcefully rips his wand out of his hands. Lord Voldemort even uses the Elder Wand for the last third of the book despite never having its loyalty. Having the Elder Wand and having its allegiance are two separate things. He does have the Elder Wands stored somewhere for safe keeping or to keep up the ruse of him being Graves (more likely) but Newt definitively defeats him as stated even in the published screenplay. It's the same situation as Draco passing along to Harry. He may not have lost the Elder Wand physically but his defeat ensures it passes to Newt now.]]
** [[spoiler: This isn't a plot hole any more than 'If Grindelwald was arrested in America in 1926, how's he wrecking Europe in the 1940s?' is a plot hole. Newt or Tina probably do indeed have the allegiance of the Elder Wand at this point, even if they're never going to put their hands on it. Presumable something is going to happen in a later movie to change that.]]
** [[spoiler: As to the Elder Wand question, we don't have confirmation Grindelwald even has it yet. Could be his first action once he breaks out of jail in New York. Also note, When Harry earned the Wand he disarmed Draco wand to wand, disarming spell IIRC. Newt didn't disarm Grindelwald using his magic or a wand, he used the Swooping Evil to smack him around and bind him. Which was IMHO the only reason why they won, as Grindelwald was well on his way to blowing everybody away, to either kill the President or escape.]]
** [[spoiler: At least in the movies, if not also in the books, Grindelwald was much younger when he stole the Elder Wand from Gregorovitch.]]
** [[spoiler: The answer most likely lies in the fact that he wasn't actually beaten, par-say. No one hit him with a spell, no one stole his wand, Newt literally just bound his hands with the Swooping Evil. Chances are, the answer is that wasn't a feat of power enough that the Elder Wand would switch allegiance.]]
** [[spoiler: The thing is, Draco wasn't magically overpowered by Harry - he just had his not-the-Elder Wand taken from him in a scuffle, and that caused the Elder Wand's allegiance to switch. The Elder Wand seems to be far more fickle than the average wand when it comes to picking a new master, so it could just be that it decided that Grindelwald was still its master despite being defeated.]]
** [[spoiler: Draco had his wand forcibly taken from him, he was overpowered. Grindelwald had his hands bound, which may not count as overpowering Or, alternatively, the wand Grindwald didn't owe any allegience to Grindelwald (hence why he relied on wandless magic so much) so that Tina taking the wand didn't count, since it wasn't his wand.]]
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[[folder:Pure Blood America]]

* So there is a law in America that witches and wizards are not allowed to mix with No Mag, not even make friends with them in a normal capacity that doesn't require them to reveal their nature. So does this mean that every single wizard in the US is a Pure Blood and that Muggle Borns just don't exist in the US? Because we see a lot of witches and wizards in the movie and the books (set in the 90's) make it clear that Pure Bloods are actually dying out.
** Of course there are No-Maj-borns in the US. The real question is: how are they and their families dealt by the [=MACUSA=]?
** Probably child abduction and Obliviation of friends and family.
** This brings up a rather odd Potterverse-wide plot hole as well: why ''are'' there so many half-bloods, anyway? It's pretty clear that in both Britain and the U.S., the magical community physically and socially segregates itself from Muggles due to TheMasquerade, and severely punishes those who reveal the existence of wizards. Newt treats America's wizard-Muggle segregation as ridiculous, but this really only seems like a common-sense protective measure (especially given the events of the movie) as well as a codification of what already exists. So how exactly do wizards go about interbreeding into the Muggle world that they know so little about and can't really take part in?
** Muggleborns are the answer to that. When one appears, in Britain at least, their whole immediate family gets in on the secret, and becomes "part" of the magical world alongside the newfound wizard/witch. We see this a bit with Harry's family, but since they're absolutely negligent towards him, they don't mingle with the wizarding world, but I can imagine, for instance, Hermione's parents going with her to the Diagon Alley for the first few times. Petunia, being Lily's sister, would equally have a shot at meeting and marrying a wizard at some point, had her not adopted her strong anti-magic stance.
** Or, alternatively, the word half-blood just refers to anyone with less than pure wizard ancestry who is not a Muggle-born. Harry is considered one, and his mother was a witch, after all. Furthermore, in rural areas, segregation may not be as extreme as it seems to be in the cities. I'm thinking particularly of towns like Godric's Hollow, which have a mixed wizard-Muggle population. Logically, even wizards need to buy food, and sometimes talk to their neighbours. The reason the British wizarding community of the books is so closed off is that they are not even one generation removed from a particularly nasty war and are in an upswing of extreme social conservatism, leading to increased distance from the Muggle community for their own and the Muggles' protection that still hasn't had time to fully wear off.

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[[folder:Desk sergeant]]

* Is there no Auror desk sergeant or something? When Tina tries to bring Newt in for releasing magical creatures, she's told to stop bothering them. No one follows up, no one takes custody of Newt, and she's not told where to take him. It's like ignoring that a bank robber was caught because every cop in the city if focused on a serial killer. They wouldn't even know he existed without her.
** This was mentioned under LawfulStupid on the main page. For starters, she decides to bring her ''right to the president''. this itself is kind of a stupid thing already since she was demoted and on top of that was disrespecting her post. (And on top of the fact that nobody was willing to listen to her then [[FacePalm tells her off for waiting over 24 hours to tell them that she knew about Newt when]] ''[[FlatWhat She was flat out TOLD OFF when she DID try to inform them of Newt]]'' DURING said 24 hours!
** Well, fair's fair, I don't think she was trying to take him directly to the president the first time she caught Newt - she was simply taking him down to what she specified as 'major investigations', because that's what it was. It was simply Tina's misfortune that the President happened to be there, in a meeting with Graves, something Tina couldn't have known and didn't expect. The second time, the No-Maj awareness level has risen to a state of emergency, and Tina believes she has the culprit with her, and knows that if she goes to Graves, technically the correct authority, she will get shut down again due to the first mix-up with the case.
** It's very possible that only active Aurors, or at least ones of a certain status, are allowed in the office she went to. She certainly acted like she was active on a case the whole time. There's probably somewhere she could have gone to report Newt's crime, but instead she acted like an investigative agent, despite no longer being one.
* No matter what, ignoring the fact she ''did'' try to report this, I'm completely confused as to what crime she would have even committed anyway. (Let's be charitable and assume that the execution was purely Graves, and they were supposed to just be arrested.)
** It sorta seemed the crime was 'Walking into a meeting of the ICW', but, uh, guys, that one is on you. Lock the door, or post some guards. Don't let people walk into, you know, the Magical UN floor.
** Or was Tina, as a government employee (Not even active law enforcement.), ''legally required'' to report any suspisions of Magical Beasts in America? That's an amazing level of mandatory reporting, well above what it is in the Muggle world. Was mandatory reporting even a concept 100 years ago?
** Or is the crime...her investigating her suspicions when not an Auror? How is that illegal? Maybe a firing offense, sure, but an actual crime? She doesn't appear to have committed any criminal act during it. (Well, she broke into a department store, but they didn't know that!)


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[[folder:Missing beasts from the book]]

* There are several fantastic beasts in the movie - most notably the Thunderbird and the Swooping Evil - that aren't mentioned in the book the film's based on. If, in-universe, that book was written by Newt, how come he forgot to include these species?
** Easy: They're in another volume of the book. It happens all the time. A publisher says they don't have space and ask the writer to cut something, and that they can put it in a later volume.
** It could also be that Newt, due to his slightly misanthropic attitude, didn't include them because he fears wizards hunting them down for whatever reason, and he doesn't want to lead them right to the creatures.
** Even more alternatively, a number of creatures such as Murtlaps, which are known to exist by the wizarding world, are not included in the Muggle text of the book, simply because it's a heavily abridged version of a much longer and more involved original.
** Or were common enough knowledge that Newt didn't particularly feel a need to include them in a book about "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them". It'd be like including a dog in a book about "exotic creatures".
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[[folder:Thunderbird timing]]

* How far back did the Thunderbird's memory-wipe go, and is it calibrated? Because some people saw not only Newt's magical creatures, but also the [[spoiler: prior murders and destruction caused by Credence/Obscurus. Is Jon Voight's character going to remember that his son was murdered, or how?]]
** It's hard to say for sure, because they were vague on what it actually did. Is it just a natural form of the Memory Charm, or something else? Newt first says that the venom might be used to "remove bad memories," so maybe that's all it does. All the bad memories of the last few days get wiped clean. People would be confused, to be sure, but not completely lost. This would also explain Jacob's WistfulAmnesia: While he spent most of the movie terrified, he was also loving the magic itself. So that would explain why he got to keep some vague memories, even if most of it was gone. So, yes, that means Henry Shaw Sr. wouldn't know how his son died. Maybe everyone will assume he just disappeared.

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[[folder:Thunderbird and other wizards]]

* Did every wizard in the area not immediately on the scene or indoors just get their memory wiped too? Oops.
** This is hinted at when Newt is treating Jacob's bite. He says that Muggles have different physiology than wizards, suggesting that the venom might affect them differently. It's possible that wizards are straight-up immune or highly resistant to the Swooping Evil venom.
** Also, possibly, it was meant to remove "bad" memories, and to Wizards, there is nothing "bad" about what happened. Stressful, troubling, and dangerous, yes, but not tipping the scale to be "bad".
** Or, alternatively, the wizards just lose a few days and either get healed by wizard doctors or people tell them what happened. A few wizards missing some memories is a small price to pay for preventing a war.

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[[folder:Thunderbird and newspapers]]

* How did the rain not only change people's memories, but also the very newspapers and photographs taken? Is it that flexible?
** [[spoiler:I think the newspapers were changed by the same aurors that reconstructed the whole city, not as an effect of the rain]].

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[[folder:Thunderbird and indoor Muggles]]
* How did the rain erase the indoor Muggles' memories, but [[spoiler: Jacob]] needed to step outside into the rain in order to be obliviated? Even if we assume it only works on Muggles, which is never stated, it certainly should have worked on [[spoiler: him]] before going outside, or else not worked on the other Muggles.
** It's shown that the some of the Muggles that were inside to be either showering or drinking water, presumably the implication is that the obliviation is getting into the New York water supply, and that by the end of the day every muggle in New York will come in contact with the potion.
** However, that's not how the New York City water supply works. Water is brought in from reservoirs in upstate New York via a series of tunnels and aqueducts which have been in place since the turn of the twentieth century. So unless the Thunderbird caused a massive storm for the entire tri-state area stretching into the Catskills, it wouldn't be able to actually enter the NYC water supply.
*** Maybe the water supply works differently in the Harry Potter universe (more likely though, they just didn't do the research). In any case, it's also possible that along with repairing all the damaged buildings, the wizards might have simply manually Obliviated anyone who the potion somehow missed, which would still be a lot easier than doing it to the whole city would have been.

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[[folder:Summer]]

* At the end of the movie, the newspapers say it's the "rainiest summer ever in NYC", or something like that, as a consequence of [[spoiler: the Thunderbird conjuring the mind-wiping storm]]. That's fine, except... the whole movie until now clearly took place '''during winter'''. Central park has frozen lakes, there are Santa decorations in Macy's... One could argue the end takes place at the start of spring, but summer? How long does that storm last?
** I'm reasonably certain that the headline was "Rainiest November ever in NYC".
** OP here. That makes a ton more sense. The people making the subtitles must have changed it to summer, for no good reason...

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[[folder:Billywig]]

* So, whatever happened to that blue flying-insect thing that appears during the first half of the film then completely disappears in the second half? Is it one of Newt's lost creatures? If it is, does Newt ever get it back?
** To answer at least one of your questions, that insect is a billywig. They're a type of magical insect native to Australia, whose stings cause levitation. So, it's most definitely one of Newt's creatures.
** Thank you for the info. So it's a case of WhatHappenedToTheMouse, then, since it's never shown that Newt got it back by the end of the film.
** In which case, Newt was not actually successful in re-obtaining all of his magical creatures like he said.
** It could be that the Billywig is only a class-3x magical beast, and unobtrusive enough that Newt didn't notice it had gotten loose. All the other creatures bar the Niffler are class-4x or higher, and capable of causing major damage.

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[[folder:Lock on suitcase]]

* Newt was shown to be able to repair an entire building with the Reparo spell.... So why hasn't he fixed the lock on his suitcase?
** The lock isn't actually broken. His creatures are just intelligent enough to get it open. He could get a better lock, but then people would ask why he has a giant lock on a supposedly innocent suitcase.
** If his creatures can basically open the suitcase any time they want to, how is it that their jailbreak is seemingly the first time this has ever happened, or is this a regular occurrence for Newt? If it is a regular occurrence, how often, and how can he possibly manage to cope with it every time unscathed when this incident of escape results in not only a wild goose chase but mayhem and destruction? How does he even know that he hasn't lost any creatures unawares, sometime during the night while he's asleep? Are there '''NO''' magical safeguards that a guy capable of fooling U.S. customs with a "Muggle Worthy" alternate compartment could use to keep the thing locked? And if it's really as simple as a non-magical rope restraint, then WHY did he not think of that before?
*** For the same reason Queenie keeps trying to magic the door open, but Jacob just kicks it down?

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[[folder:Misuse of Queenie]]

* So Queenie's an in-the-blood Legilimens -- a natural empath/telepath. What role does MACUSA find for this rare asset? Why, sticking her in the basement of the building and essentially making her a glorified secretary/coffee fetcher. It could be argued that Queenie is content where she is and doesn't aspire to anything more, but she's clearly not happy in her job, jinxing the toilets in her spare time. [[spoiler: For that matter, why didn't Grindelwald try to recruit her?]]
** Is it obvious that she's a Legilimens? It seems like she doesn't make a big deal about it at work (she uses it for blackmail, but gives no indication of how she acquired the information) and she seems happy about the fact that she has a minor job and it's her sister who's the career woman. Perhaps she's happy with a less stressful life and everyone else just doesn't realize how powerful she is.
** Queenie seems to enjoy the whole ObfuscatingStupidity concept. She plays herself off as just the blonde, happy-go-lucky secretary, but seems to be a fairly competent witch when she wants to be. As we see during the rescue [[spoiler: of Newt and Tina]], when her whole demeanor turns on its head. Perhaps she jinxes the toilets solely for her own fun?

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[[folder:American Squibs and No-Maj-borns]]

* I'll admit I haven't read all the books but I have checked the Harry Potter wiki and other such research so anyone wish to correct please do so. So No-Majs and Wizards in America won't interact with each other either friendly or romantically until 1965 with the repeal of Rappaport's Law. What exactly does MACUSA do if a child of two magical parents is born without magic like a squib? Do they send the to adoption services or dump them on the street? Or the other way around with wizard kid being born to No-Majs? Are they kidnapped and their very existent is wiped from his or her No-Maj parents' and siblings' mind? Is there an adoption service for them too? This sounds incredibly problematic and traumatizing from both kids' end. You don't display any sort of magic at a certain age than you're on your own and the good and/or bad memories you had with your family are wipe because your not magical and if you were loved by them, well then they can never see you again. If you have magic you can never see your No-Maj parents again. How is this suppose to work?
* If the Americans have access to something like the list of magically-born children Hogwarts keeps to keep track of potential students, it may be that there's a way of registering all Muggle-born births with MACUSA. Then it's a fairly simple matter to go to the parents, Obliviate them to make them think they miscarried/had a stillbirth, and abduct the child before it's old enough to really remember them. Possibly the reverse happens with squibs when they don't show up on said list as having magic, or else they are allowed to live on the fringes of magical society as second-class citizens. It's unpleasant, but it makes sense with what we've seen of the 1920s wizarding world.

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[[folder:Senator Shaw]]

* So... what happened with the senator's murder subplot? How do you cover up the death of a US Senator whose father is a media magnate? Even if we assume that all photos the reporters were taking during the climax were destroyed, someones going to be on this case.
** I imagine this whole subplot was setting up ground for the sequels. If Jacob has enough lingering memories to dream about the beasts, maybe the younger Shaw will also retain some subconscious memories, and be able to convince his father about witchcraft this time around.
** Alternatively, they don't need to cover up his ''death'' at all. There's no particular evidence of murder, and no-one remembers anything to make them suspect that this death wasn't just a particularly horrifying freak accident.
** From the immediate lead-up, and the damage that had happened, it could be explained as the result of a freak electrical mishap, leading to either a fire or explosion of some sort.

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[[folder: MACUSA's execution methods]]

* The execution via death pool feels needlessly convoluted. A spell like Avada kedavra would be much more efficient: instant, painless death. Why bother keeping a special room with killer goo and a flying chair and procedure that involves extracting person’s happy memories to make them willingly step into their death? Aside from the fact that’s convenient for the plot.
** There's a reason the Avada Kedavra is called one of the ''Unforgivable'' Curses, using them for execution is probably seen as being akin to all sorts of violations of human rights in our society. They're also notoriously difficult to cast, requiring either a legitimate desire to cause pain and death for their own sakes (even being absurdly angry at the target is not enough for that), traits that are more easily achieved by complete psycopaths.
** The Avada Kedavra curse literally rips off pieces of your soul when you use it. There's a reason why it's the only one of the Unforgivable curses that none of the good guys have ever used. Dark magic in general requires you to go to a very disturbing place in order to use it properly. So, they opted for something else, and as for why the potion? It's humane. The condemned spend their last moments in a reverie of their happiest moments, so they don't fear what's coming. The potion's probably painless too.
** Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it heavily implied in the books that Voldemort himself invented the Unforgivable Curses? It's possible they didn't have Avada Kedavra at their disposal yet.
** Given that all three Unforgivables were first outlawed in Britain in 1717, there is no feasible way Voldemort could have created them. More likely, the issue is the requirement for emotional investment in the spell, which would be difficult for an executioner who sees however many criminals each month.
** Oh, and on account of it being a painless death. It seems so, as it happens too fast for the body to react, but the one person to take the full effects of the curse head-on and survive (the person being Voldemort himself) describes it as causing an insane amount of pain. This may or may not be known by the wizarding world at large.

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[[folder: MACUSA has no due process?]]
* After interrogating Newt and Tina, Graves sentences them to death on his sole authority and after one interview without a trial or any sort of investigation. The sentence is also carried out instantly, without any sort of appeal. Even worse, his two assistants are clearly quite practiced with Graves' procedure, and the existence of a state-provided execution squad doesn't even seem to be a secret: Tina knows at least one of them by name. How on earth did Graves not only get the power of being a totally unsupervised judge, jury, and executioner, but also have such volume of cases that he was assigned assistants and an execution chamber? How many people did Graves murder with MACUSA's tacit approval?
** Going off how unnaturally calm the assistants are about doing this ''to a colleague they know by name'', even by the standards of people who do this for a living, it's possible they are under the Imperius curse, and that Graves simply planned to say that Newt and Tina either escaped (thus allowing him to continue using them as scapegoats without any risk of their endangering his plans), or died attempting to escape. As for the existence of a state-funded execution squad...well, America ''has'' the death penalty, which might arguably be a bit more merciful than [[MindRape imprisonment]] [[DespairEventHorizon in]] [[TheAlcatraz Azkaban]]. It could just be that Graves co-opted the people who usually carry out executions of people who have committed capital crimes and received proper trials.
** While the Imperius angle does explain away the assistants (though I'm annoyed this was never made clear), the explanation does seem to have a flaw or two in explaining Graves' plan. Graves/Grindlewald was intent on killing Newt and Tina, that much is certain. However, if there *was* a procedure for MACUSA executions, Graves was most certainly flouting it: even at its worst times, America has never made an official practice of drumhead-trial-to-execution in a matter of minutes on flimsy evidence and no oversight. So essentially, Graves is extra-judicially executing two suspects, but via the ordinary execution method. If he was going to claim they tried to escape, he could have Avada Kedavra'ed them right on the spot as soon as they were alone. Them actually escaping is also implausible, as somehow two wandless suspects managed to overpower an exceedingly strong wizard and escape without a trace from a building crawling with Aurors. The only explanation he would have for MACUSA afterwards would be that he tried the suspects and found them guilty, and then executed them all on his own authority. Assuming he doesn't legally have that terrifying level of delegated power, he'd essentially be ruining his own cover.
** Considering he's close to finding the Obscurus, and MACUSA has just blatantly refused to acknowledge that such a thing even exists, does he even ''need'' the Graves identity at this point? In the beginning, certainly, it was probably the best position from which to find out about the most likely people to produce an Obscurus and make sure MACUSA didn't become suspicious, but given that he has narrowed things down to the Barebone children at this point and knows MACUSA don't suspect a thing, he might have decided that it was worth the risk to get rid of the threat to his plans. Possibly this was how he planned to dispose of the real Graves too, as if he were to be found after Grindlewald had made his escape, he would be suitably disgraced and thus his claims of what had happened to him might be dismissed as the ravings of a guilty man using all means to escape his sentence. Or, if Graves is already dead, he can just leave the corpse lying around somewhere and leave the city quietly with no-one suspecting Grindlewald had anything to do with it.
** Ok, but if he's done with the Graves persona, why the whole song-and-dance routine of sentencing them to death Bond Villain-style after getting the info he needed about the Obscurus? The only two remaining impediments to his plan are standing there, unarmed, with only his Imperiused puppets as witnesses. It's not like he's squeamish or doesn't like getting his hands dirty; he rubs out six Aurors at the start of the movie without a second thought. Two quick Avada Kedavras with a "they resisted" explanation and he's home free.
** By the same logic, maybe he just got sloppy? Grindlewald is very close to winning here - the only reason he ''didn't'' get exactly what he wanted and get out of dodge was his own miscalculation in dismissing Credence as a Squib. As such, he isn't expecting to be around long enough for it to matter. He's been posing as Graves with no-one noticing for at least a couple of months, maybe anything up to a year, maybe he just got complacent about no-one asking questions because no-one has suspected anything so far.
** Alternatively, this is the American counterpart to Barty Crouch Sr's 'extreme measures' brought in to combat Voldemort in the 70s and early 80s, which allowed for killing rather than capture of suspected Death Eaters. While the implication there is of a kill in combat, this is fifty years earlier and times have changed. (This is true even in the Muggle world, as it was a lot quicker and easier to execute people back in the 1920s than it is today, even in countries which still have the death penalty.) It's also entirely possible that this too was introduced by Grindlewald in the guise of Graves (who seems to be the American equivalent of the head of magical law enforcement, which might explain his absurd levels of power), in order to make it easier for him to silence anyone who might suspect something amiss with his cover/interfere with his search for the Obscurus.
** Or he could have forged whatever official work sets someone up for death. He's the head of law enforcement, if he says someone's been tried and found guilty, you'd probably believe him.
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[[folder:Gnarlack's perception of Graves]]
* When Newt questions Gnarlack about Graves, Gnarlack gets suddenly dismissive and seems uncomfortable to talk about it - for someone so greedy and unscrupulous, why wouldn't he try to squeeze a little more valuables out of Newt in exchange for more information? So what is it about Graves that intimidates Gnarlack so much?:\\
Could it be that Polyjuice Potion (or whatever magic Grindelwald used to impersonate Graves) can't fool non-human magical creatures, so Gnarlack knows that lately Grindelwald has been impersonating Graves, and he wouldn't dare betray Grindelwald to Newt out of fear for this well known to be powerfull and evil wizard? (On the other hand, if Gnarlack had known about the disguise he could also have betrayed Grindelwald!Graves to the authoroties, as there must be a prize on his head in America as well, and betraying him to the government itself is more secure than betraying him to, what to Gnarlack is, some random strange wanted Englishman.)\\
Alternatively, if Gnarlack ''is'' fooled by the disguise, that says a lot about Real!Graves character: he must have been a big bastard and powerful wizard, to intimidate Gnarlack like that...\\
Or any other explanations?
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