* ''Literature/TheBible'':
** Jacob wrestled with God (or perhaps with an angel). After a long stalemate, his opponent realized that [[TheDeterminator he would not give up]] and touched Jacob's hip, dislocating it. For this, Jacob gains the new name "Israel" ("Struggled/Persevered-With-God") as a reward for his stubbornness.
*** Also, because of the way in which the angel defeated Jacob, observant Jews do not eat the sciatic nerve. Since the sciatic nerve is remarkably difficult to remove, most Jews simply did not eat the hindquarters of the animal, selling it to their Gentile neighbors instead.
** Moses [[JewsLoveToArgue argues with God]] multiple times when he threatens to destroy the Israelites completely, and manages to convince him otherwise. In reality it was probably a SecretTestOfCharacter (given that God knows everything), but still impressive (his distant ancestor Abraham tried to do the same thing, asking God to not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, where Abraham's nephew Lot lived, if 50 righteous people lived in the city, and then managed to bargain God down to ten; in the end, only Lot and his two daughters made it out alive).