Created By: LOAD on April 14, 2011 Last Edited By: Arivne on June 8, 2013

The Dead Need to be Remembered

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May be linked to Gods Need Prayer Badly. The idea that if the dead are forgotten, they're gone.

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Examples

Anime and Manga
  • Bleach anime episode #3. After her brother Sora dies, Orihime Inoue regularly prays for him, which gives him peace in the afterlife. After a year she started to pray for him less and less and began to forget about him. After she entered high school she stopped praying for him altogether. His sadness and loneliness causes him to not pass on to the Soul Society, which leaves him vulnerable to being converted into a Hollow.

Film
  • In Titan A.E., the Hodrians believe that as long as a person's name is still out there, they endure. So they create "memory spheres", basically glass capsules with the name written on a slip of paper inside. Much of their activity consists of finding new places to stash the things; their original planet is buried in them.

Literature
  • In the 2002 Russian novel Light in the Window by Svyatoslav Loginov, everything in the Afterlife revolves around memories of the living. For each time a living person remembers the dead one, they receive a coin: golden one the living knew them personally, silver one otherwise. Coins can be used up to fulfill any kind of wishes, with a complex Rule Magic system based around wish fulfillment. If you run out of coins, you disappear forever.
  • In the Chronicles of the Kencyrath, this is particularly a plot point in Bound in Blood.
  • Ciaphas Cain (HERO OF THE IMPERIUM) often claims he's a complete Dirty Coward who'll happily throw all the men under his command between him and danger so he can run away. He also expresses guilt that he can't remember the face of a man who died under his command. Yeah.
  • A recurring line in Going Postal is 'A man's not dead while his name is still spoken'.

Mythology and Religion
  • This is followed by both the ancient Egyptian and Shinto religions. Which is why it's important in both that tombs are maintained.

Video Games
  • Final Fantasy X. There's a special location called the Farplane where the local spirits can bring back an image of the dead, people usually do this to clear out any bad feelings "face-to-face".

Community Feedback Replies: 20
  • April 14, 2011
    SKJAM
    Do not remember the title or author at this moment, but a fantasy story in which every dead person goes to the same afterlife; how comfortable it is depends on how many people remember you existed, with folks like Shakespeare and Julius Caesar doing very well indeed, and the narrator's brother-in-law in miserable conditions.
  • April 15, 2011
    dalek955
  • April 15, 2011
    Antigone3
    There's a line from Ancient Egypt, something on the lines of "To speak the name of the dead is to make them live again". But that said, I agree with dalek that Due To The Dead covers this.
  • April 15, 2011
    LOAD
    But Due To The Dead seems to be based on the morality of how the person treats the dead. This is about that dead person's afterlife if no one remembers who they are. Does it fit?
  • April 15, 2011
    dalek955
    In Titan AE, the Hodrians believe that as long as a person's name is still out there, they endure. So they create "memory spheres", basically glass capsules with the name written on a slip of paper inside. Much of their activity consists of finding new places to stash the things; their original planet is buried in them.
  • April 16, 2011
    Topazan
    I seem to remember reading an African myth involving this idea in school. I think it was a version of this: http://www.ncsu.edu/chass/extension/ghanatalk/folktales/cow.html

    Subverted: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1282#comic
  • April 16, 2011
    Arivne
    Anime and Manga
    • Bleach anime episode #3. After her brother Sora dies, Orihime Inoue regularly prays for him, which gives him peace in the afterlife. After a year she started to pray for him less and less and began to forget about him. After she entered high school she stopped praying for him altogether. His sadness and loneliness causes him to not pass on to the Soul Society, which leaves him vulnerable to being converted into a Hollow.
  • October 4, 2011
    LOAD
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  • October 7, 2011
    LOAD
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  • October 9, 2011
    LOAD
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  • October 10, 2011
    Topazan
    Maybe if you try expanding the description and adding the examples this will get more attention.
  • October 10, 2011
    Koveras
    • In the 2002 Russian novel Light in the Window by Svyatoslav Loginov, everything in the Afterlife revolves around memories of the living. For each time a living person remembers the dead one, they receive a coin: golden one the living knew them personally, silver one otherwise. Coins can be used up to fulfill any kind of wishes, with a complex Rule Magic system based around wish fulfillment. If you run out of coins, you disappear forever.
  • October 10, 2011
    cityofmist
    A recurring line in Going Postal is 'A man's not dead while his name is still spoken'.
  • October 10, 2011
    Generality
    This is followed by both the ancient Egyptian and Shinto religions. Which is why it's important in both that tombs are maintained.
  • October 24, 2011
    PaulA
  • October 25, 2011
    Chabal2
    • Ciaphas Cain (HERO OF THE IMPERIUM) often claims he's a complete Dirty Coward who'll happily throw all the men under his command between him and danger so he can run away. He also expresses guilt that he can't remember the face of a man who died under his command. Yeah.
    • Final Fantasy X: There's a special location called the Farplane where the local spirits can bring back an image of the dead, people usually do this to clear out any bad feelings "face-to-face".
  • July 6, 2012
    LOAD
  • June 7, 2013
    LOAD
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  • June 7, 2013
    StarSword
    Hat removed. This is nowhere near launch ready.
  • June 8, 2013
    Arivne
    Did some Rolling Updates so people can see what's been contributed already.
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