Created By: osias on March 28, 2012

Unified Origin Story

In the movie, their stories started together

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In adaptations to other media, often origin stories of heroes and villains are merged.

Examples:

  • In Tim Burton's Batman, the Joker killed Bruce's parents and Batman was responsible for the accident creating the Joker.
  • In Spiderman, both spidey and the Green Goblin gain their powers at roughly the same time by the same phlebotonium.
  • In Fantastic Four, Doom was in the same space voyage that gave the heroes their powers and also got some, while in the comics he's more like Iron Man.
  • In X-Men 3, Juggernaut and Dark Phoenix are simply mutants like the other characters.
  • Green Lantern features both Hal Jordan becoming a hero and Sinestro a Villian
  • Smallville features how Clark will become a hero and Lex a villian and they know each other since the pilot.

Community Feedback Replies: 21
  • March 28, 2012
    WackyMeetsPractical
    Certainly related to Create Your Own Villain.
  • March 28, 2012
    FreemDeem
    ^Agreed. The examples seem to all be comic book-to-film adaptations. Which is fair enough, I for one can't think of any other examples. Probably worth mentioning that this is probably because comics have a lot more time to develop the origins of multiple characters happening separately over the entire run of the comic, whereas a movie needs to squeeze the origins of the protagonist(s) and antagonist(s) in the space of roughly 90 minutes. It's not surprising they often resort to the hero and the villain getting their start from the same event closely related events.
  • March 28, 2012
    FreemDeem
    • or closely related events.
  • March 29, 2012
    osias
    There must be several other examples from other media. I just typed some I remembered easily, just for starts. Now, if the trope doesn't exist, I can post others.

    I agree this trope it's stuff for pragmatic adaptations, but it doesn't need to be so: Lex Luthor story isn't tied to Superman in the movies or in Lois & Clark, for example. Also, it can be well done like X3's Juggernaut or badly done like the FF movie.
  • March 29, 2012
    WackyMeetsPractical
    If this isn't limited to adaptations, here's some other examples:

    • Powerpuff Girls: It is eventually revealed that Mojo Jojo received his massive brain, super intellect, and hatred of man kind from the same lab accident that created the Powerpuff Girls.
    • Megamind: Both Megamind and Metro Man were aliens sent to Earth from neighboring planets being swallowed up by the same black hole. They arrived on Earth on the same day, and their paths continuously crossed from then on.
  • March 29, 2012
    osias
    @Wacky Meets Practical I intended to create a trope about adaptations, your first example is a retcon and the second one is just an ordinary commom origin.
  • March 29, 2012
    osias
    • In Superman Adventures, Brainiac was created in Kripton and even causes the planet's destruction
  • March 29, 2012
    WackyMeetsPractical
    ^^ It's something to consider, as we don't appear to have a general common origins trope yet, not that I can find.
  • March 29, 2012
    osias
    I don't know if that's troppable, I actually don't understand what are the rules to not make tropes of things are so common.

    Like... is there a trope for "business men wear suits and ties"? It's a genuine question of mine, I'm not being sarcastic. I don't know where the line is draw.

    To me... "common origin" is ubiquitous and we maybe/maybe not should have as a trope. This page, however, is about "people changed the story so now there's a common origin".

    Maybe retcons could be included.
  • March 29, 2012
    Duncan
    The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have the same origin story as Daredevil- see #1 on this Cracked article here: [1] addendum: never mind, I see this is not that trope, but fascinating nonetheless.
  • March 29, 2012
    randomsurfer
    In the Ultimate Universe many supers' origins have as their basis an attempt to recreate the Super Soldier Serum that gave Ultimate Captain America his powers, including Spider Man, Green Goblin, and Hulk.
  • March 30, 2012
    TitoMosquito
    Relate to Meta Origin (especially if via retcon).
  • March 30, 2012
    StevenT
    Sometimes crosses with Everyone Went To School Together.
  • March 30, 2012
    tclittle
  • March 30, 2012
    MorganWick
    Also in the Ultimate Universe the origins of Spiderman and the Green Goblin are similar to as described for the movies.
  • April 2, 2012
    osias
    ^^ this example from MLP:FIM is just a regular flashback, not even a retcon
  • April 4, 2012
    kevinj
    in the movie Young Sherlock Holmes the villain changes his name to Moriarty in the final scene. And Batman was always responsible for the accident creating the joker in the comics similarly in the original version of Superboy in the comics he grew up with Lex Luthor and was responsible for him being bald.

  • April 5, 2012
    TBeholder
    Yes We DO Have This One: unifiied origins are covered by Meta Origin
  • April 5, 2012
    osias
    I think this is a supertrope of Meta Origin
  • May 19, 2015
    TitoMosquito
    In the 90s Iron Man cartoon, Tony Stark created his armor while being held hostage by the Mandarin.
  • May 19, 2015
    DragonQuestZ
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