Created By: matsuiny2004November 21, 2011 Last Edited By: matsuiny2004December 4, 2011

alternate geography

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Your on the planet earth humans evolved, but where is the continent of africa? the answer is it was never formed since this earths geography is different. Examples of this would be one piece, I think dragon ball z, and Naruto. For books Lord of The Rings, the wizard of Oz and many fantasy universes can be said to take place on an earth with different geography from our own. Stories involving california or new york no longer existing due to being underwater could also be alternate geography.

examples Anime and Manga
  • Dragon ball z specifically states in the series that it takes place on a version of earth and often refer to the planet earth, but there are different continents than this earths.
  • In Pokemon Heroes Misty refers to the planet they live on as earth and there are many simmilarities to their planet with earth such as the amount of water, the climate and the moon.
  • One piece has been mentioned as taking place in 1522, but an alternate 1522 with different technology and dinosaurs. There is also mention of a singular moon in the skypiea arc which is simmilar to earth.
Literature
  • In Katherine Kurtz's Deryni novels the coastline of Europe is a different shape, except in a few places corresponding for instance to where Cornwall and parts of Scotland would be in our world, and where you'd expect to find the British Isles there's a single large peninsula.

  • In one of the parallel worlds in the Chrestomanci series, Britain is still attached to the rest of Europe and the Alps stretch all the way into England. A side effect of this is that a lot of country names and borders are different.

  • In Islandia there is a fictional continent on earth called karain. Karain is considered a utopia.

  • In Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy, the second Earth is much like the original one, except that Africa now has many fjords. Slartibartfast, for the first Earth the designer of Norway's coastline, is responsible for this.
  • In Dinotopia the island Dinotopia exists on earth and it is a place where dinosaurs and humans coexist. The island broke away from the asian subcontinent.
Video Games
  • Strangereal, the original setting of the Ace Combat series, got Antarctica and Greenland down, but the rest of the continents and oceans are messed up, with identifiable features (such as Great Lakes) found all over the place. It also features a plethora of alternative countries (all of them distinctly Western; there is no equivalent of Africa, Asia, or Australia at all). On the other hand, it seems to have the same sky as Earth (down to individual constellations) and, somehow, exactly the same models of air, sea, and land combat vehicles as contemporary Earth.
Community Feedback Replies: 18
  • November 21, 2011
    jate88
    What is this trope's relationship to Alternate History and Constructed World?
  • November 22, 2011
    Arivne
    Re: The Lord Of The Rings. In the Prologue to The Fellowship Of The Ring Tolkien explains the differences in geography between Middle-Earth and our present day Earth by saying "...the shape of all lands has been changed..."
  • November 22, 2011
    condottiera
    Could be played with in the Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy... On the alternate Earth analogue of Now What, the continents are identical to the ones on our Earth except they are all mapped upside down.
  • November 22, 2011
    matsuiny2004
    @jate88: It focuses on an earth that has a different geography, neither of the tropes you have mentioned have this as a requirement.
  • November 22, 2011
    matsuiny2004
    @Arvine: Does this mean it could fit this trope?
  • November 22, 2011
    matsuiny2004
    @jate88: Actually I take that back the constructed world trope does mention it, but this trope focuese specifically on it.
  • November 22, 2011
    cityofmist
    In one of the parallel worlds in the Chrestomanci series, Britain is still attached to the rest of Europe and the Alps stretch all the way into England. A side effect of this is that a lot of country names and borders are different.
  • November 22, 2011
    jate88
    I haven't watched them in a while but I don't remember one piece and naruto making any references to our world. Would the Atlantis series by Harry Turtledove count?
  • November 23, 2011
    LobsterMagnus
  • November 23, 2011
    LeeM
    ^ Re the above example: in all but the movie version the mice decide that the new Earth isn't needed, much to Slartibartfast's displeasure.
    Slartibartfast: I've got a thousand glaciers ready to roll over Africa!
    Mouse: Then perhaps you'd better take a quick skiing holiday before you dismantle them.
    Slartibartfast: Skiing holiday? It would be sacrilege to go skiing on high art!
  • November 23, 2011
    LeeM
    • In Katherine Kurtz's Deryni novels the coastline of Europe is a different shape, except in a few places corresponding for instance to where Cornwall and parts of Scotland would be in our world, and where you'd expect to find the British Isles there's a single large peninsula.
  • November 24, 2011
    matsuiny2004
    @Arvine: Even if it took place in the past couldn't it still be an alternate earth that happened to form a different geography and then become ours? I know there is nothing in the book to suggests this so it is a stretch.
  • November 28, 2011
    matsuiny2004
    @jate88: I know there is no real mention, but they are human so couldn't you assume they take place on earth. There are many hints in both shows to suggest that they are alternate realities suggesting they take place on earth. Instead of phones there are den den mushi in one piece. There are dinosaurs in one piece. Naruto is simmilar modern medicine, but no cars. The wiki I looked through suggests that naruto take place on a fictional continent that exists on an alternate earth. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Geography

    Another reason is that the word earth is used in the series especially for jutsus.

    As for one piece it is hinted at taking place in 1522 in one episode according to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388629/faq#.2.1.1

    Not our 1522 but a different one with much more advanced technology and different geography.
  • November 28, 2011
    jate88
    Lots of fantasy taking place in a world that isn't an alternate reality to earth have humans as the protagnosist for no other reason than Most Writers Are Human. Considering that many magic systems are based off the greek system of earth,air,fire, and water just mentioning the word earth doesn't mean the story takes place on our planet earth.

    Though if it actually states in universe or by Word Of God that the series takes place in an alernate version of our Earth I'm not going to argue.

    There seems to be four varities of this trope:
    • An Alternate History examing the effects of plate tectonics arranging the Earth's land masses differently

    • A Constructed World in which our world is stated flat out not to exist but the geography is suprisingly earth like or much of the terminology has a low chance of existing in a world where ours never existed in the first place.

    • Twenty Minutes Into The Future examing the effects of some natural disaster

    • Stories that suffer from Science Marches On such as many ancient mythologies.
  • November 28, 2011
    matsuiny2004
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  • November 28, 2011
    matsuiny2004
    pokemon has made references to places on earth so that could be an example both the anime and games.
  • November 29, 2011
    Koveras
    • Strangereal, the original setting of the Ace Combat series, got Antarctica and Greenland down, but the rest of the continents and oceans are messed up, with identifiable features (such as Great Lakes) found all over the place. It also features a plethora of alternative countries (all of them distinctly Western; there is no equivalent of Africa, Asia, or Australia at all). On the other hand, it seems to have the same sky as Earth (down to individual constellations) and, somehow, exactly the same models of air, sea, and land combat vehicles as contemporary Earth.
  • December 4, 2011
    jate88
    I'm thinking this can be a subtrope of Alternate History considering that some authors with a reputation for writing alternate history also write stories where the Earth's geography is slightly different but the stories get classified as alternate history anyways.

    Of course history only extends to about back to about 4000 BCE if you go by the academic definition of history being the study of human kinds stories about itself. In common usage when people use history they usually mean anything that occured after the big bang. This multiple definition of the word history is what has me confused.

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