Created By: maryscribe on August 30, 2011 Last Edited By: maryscribe on September 2, 2011

Bitter Nerd

High School Boy or Grown Man Who Can't Get Over Not Getting Any in High School

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He's often brainy, often works in the sciences or in government, is usually Hollywood Homely or genuinely unattractive. He's bitter toward women, even, or especially, the ones who find him attractive. Usually villains or anti-heroes. Examples: Munch on the first season of Law & Order Special Victims Unit, Owen on the first season of Torchwood, and at times, Xander and Spike on Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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  • August 30, 2011
    emeriin
    Where did you get the idea that Xander was a misogynist?
  • August 30, 2011
    JeepEep
    Needs a rewrite. But we need this trope something hard.
  • August 30, 2011
    Rainbow
    Would Kenji from Katawa Shoujo count? He's still IN high school, but he fits the "nerdy and also misogynist" aspects of the trope.
  • August 30, 2011
    jaytee
    I wouldn't call Munch a misogynist.

    "bitter toward romantic relationships with women" != "hates women"
  • August 30, 2011
    Bisected8
    I don't recall any of them being misgynists (well I haven't seen Torchwood so I don't know about Owen). Hell, the only person Munch was friendly towards was that deaf woman....
  • August 30, 2011
    AFP
    Xander was a Deadpan Snarker, and his relationship with Cordelia Chase wasn't exactly the most emotionally sound, but he never seemed to be particularly hateful towards women. He got rather short with Buffy a few times, but generally only when Buffy's actions put her friends (particularly Willow) in danger.
  • August 30, 2011
    AFP
    Bitter Nice Guy? Actually, that might be a different trope entirely.
  • August 31, 2011
    SonofRojBlake
    Howard Wallowitz (sp?) from The Big Bang Theory.

  • August 31, 2011
    maryscribe
    Thanks for the input. I'm changing Misogynistic to Bitter, which was one of the descriptors I had considered, as my use of the term misogynistic might be broader than some would agree with. Munch fit my definition of the misogynist in the first season and even later at times ("time and money, women learn early how to waste both") but he did become a defender to and friend of women in episodes where he was the featured character. Owen was nasty to men and women in the first season of Torchwood but nastiest of all to pretty women who cared about him (Tosh, Gwen). He was retconned and punished in the second season. Xander in my opinion had a misogynistic streak although he wasn't a full blown misogynist. For example, getting involved with women he did not respect and breaking their hearts (Cordelia, Anya) is symptomatic of bitterness toward women in my opinion, but of course not everyone agrees and I'm not wedded to keeping him in the description.
  • September 2, 2011
    MorganWick
    As is, I suspect we'll want to stay away from real life examples. (Though if we don't, it'll probably start with This Loser Is You jokes.)
  • September 2, 2011
    goodtimesfreegrog
  • September 2, 2011
    MorganWick
    Um, no.
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