Created By: Thinks Too Much on August 22, 2009
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Badass Pacifist

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Not as much of a contradiction in terms as you would think. Someone who is strongly opposed to violence, and does not but is nonetheless much, much stronger than many of us will ever be, and commands all the respect you give 'the baddest motherfucker on the planet' despite or, in some cases, because of this. Often but not always indicate a higher position on the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism. Contrast A Real Man Is a Killer.

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Anyone else got anything? I thought we really should have this for ethical reasons, but are there enough examples?
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  • August 22, 2009
    insofar
    I don't think Jesus and Ghandi are "much stronger than many of us will ever be," unless you mean it in a purely psychological sense. Either way, there are scores of these people in anime, notably Vash.

    For a pacifist who is very badass but a little less physical at it, there is Tenma, who can take a beating, get hit by a car, jump off a bridge, stop fires, and save people everywhere.
  • August 22, 2009
    vp21ct
    Martin Luther King Jr.. Not so much of a Badass for his own non-violence (though that is of historic levels itself) but more for his ability to inspire non-violence.
  • August 22, 2009
    Chabal 2
    There are a number of mentor figures in fiction who tell the hero that violence is not the immediate answer, but only when they are really forced to fight do they show their Badass side. Does that fall under this trope? In which case:
  • August 22, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    • John Lennon. Make love not war. "Imagine." Nutopia. That is all.
      • Just to prove it, there was a light tower built for him.
  • August 22, 2009
    Shrikesnest
    Jesus wasn't a pacifist. A lot of his teachings acknowledged the wisdom of being even-tempered and slow to wrath, and he won his greatest victory (according to his followers) without raising a hand in violence, but there are several accounts of him creating a whip and beating the daylights out of a bunch of charlatans who were abusing their place in a temple.
  • August 22, 2009
    Frodo Goofball CoTV
    @Shrikesnest: I suppose one could say many of these characters are relative pacifists. Compared with the Well Intentioned Extremists (and not so well - intentioned ones) of his time, Jesus as described in The Bible was about as pacifist as it got.

    Questionable examples:

    Real Life

  • August 22, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    The incident with the whip in the temple involved Jesus driving out the animals that were being sold with it, not the merchants.
  • August 22, 2009
    Taeraresh
    Shepherd Book from Firefly probably fits. He does resort to violence on a few occasions, but only when absolutely necessary.
  • August 24, 2009
    Thinks Too Much
    Stronger = psychologically stronger, not physically, yes. As in, willing to stand and take a beating without fighting back.
  • August 24, 2009
    insofar
    Then Tenma, definitely.
  • August 24, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    Certainly, we should have this.
  • August 24, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    Prince Phil from Slayers thinks he embodies this trope. He has the Badass part down pat, but fails on the pacifist part.
  • August 24, 2009
    Supertroper
    Goku in Dragonball Z is arguably the strongest character in the series yet almost always pleads for peace with every Big Bad, often offering a truce even after his comrades have been killed AND he is sure of his ability to win.

    Naruto, in manga chapter 454, having just defeated the latest/greatest big bad, confronts some cloud-ninja seeking revenge on one of Naruto's friends for killing their master. Recognizing the cycle of hate, he offers himself as an appeasement. They then proceed to beat the living daylights out of him.

    (does it count as pacifism if they "try" for peace but fight anyway, or is this trope for people that follow through ex:Gandi/Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.)
  • August 24, 2009
    zevans
    • Gandalf, plus possibly Tom Bombadil, Elrond, or other senior Elves.
  • August 24, 2009
    zevans
  • August 25, 2009
    Thinks Too Much
    This trope is intended for people who actually don't fight. So Gandalf and Obi-Wan Kenobi don't work. Martin Luther King does.
  • August 25, 2009
    Saintheart
    Arguably, from Dungeons And Dragons there's the prestige class known as the Apostle of Peace. In order to get there you have to take vows of poverty and nonviolence which basically stop you owning anything or hitting anything. However, once you are there, weapons just shatter when they hit you and you can make demons recoil by basically just saying "Bad boy! Go to your room!"
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