Created By: Scuba Air Surfer on August 4, 2009
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All Lesbians Want Kids

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Can also be titled Lesbian Baby Boom. I guess this is one for The Parent Trope list, may also possibly fall under YKTTW Catch-22 Prejudice Trope Index.

So a given female cast member will get the storyline of realising she is gay/bisexual/"it's not the gender, it's the person" or maybe the she was already gay from the start, whatever the case maybe at some point after entering in a long-term relationship with another woman expect their biological clock to go off and thus the pregnancy (or adoption if pregnancy doesn't workout) storyline for the two will begin.

This isn't going to be good.

Now there's nothing wrong with the miracle of life nor lesbians, especially should the two combine, what is problematic is the execution of these storylines. In fact the very conception of the storyline can be borne out of lazy writing or possibly Executive Meddling and due to this apathy the quality overall will suffer. Did Not Do The Research, Double Standard, Most Writers Are Male and Unfortunate Implications are often attributed to it's prevalence. Plays off of gender roles/Babies Make Everything Better in the same way that All Gays Are Promiscuous plays off of A Man Is Not a Virgin.

Expect some variation on a joke involving turkey basters.

However as we all know Tropes Are Not Bad and put in the right hands this can (and has) realistically be a good thing eventually leading to this being a Discredited Trope but not right now.

See this article and this follow-up for a more a detailed analysis and examples (I've essentially and haphazardly summarised the first article here so i'm not the original author of either).

  • If These Walls Could Talk 2. In the segment 2000, Fran (Sharon Stone) and Kal (Ellen DeGeneres) decide to have a baby together. A turkey baster is involved.
  • Two examples that exist on opposite ends of the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism when it comes to the custody aspect are What Makes A Family and Two Mothers For Zachary respectively, the latter being based on a real life case.
  • A chapter of textbook example of this trope is played straight in ER with Dr. Kerry Weaver and her firefighter girlfriend complete with custody battles, melodrama and death.
  • In NYPD Blue, Det. Abbey Sullivan and her partner got Det. Greg Medevoy to donate his sperm.
  • Partially subverted in The Wire, while her partner Cheryl certainly wanted a baby, Kima intially and honestly wasn't so enthusiatic until she's receives drive to parent Season 5. It goes without saying that The Wire being what it is, this is one of the examples of the storyline being written right.
  • In an episode of Without a Trace, an unknown pair of women assumed to be a lesbian couple finally receiving a baby to adopt have said baby taken away from them as it was the missing person of that episode - btw they didn't kidnap it just caught up in a conspiracy.
  • Unsurprisingly in a show with a Cast Full of Gay, The L Word had one. What is surprising is that it only occurred with just one couple - twice!. Well... actually there was also Helena's kids but you know.
  • The token lesbians in the US version of Queer as Folk decide to have a baby; naturally they select their friend, gay Heroic Sociopath Brian, to be the biological father.
  • So far this has been averted with everyone's favourite lesbian witch, Willow! Despite having been in two long term relationships, the first one made impossible due to...erm Tara's current status and her second as well as current one with Kennedy is taking it slow.
  • This seems to be the catalyst for the breakup between Caitlin and Alicia on the cancelled Sex and the City clone Cashmere Mafia.
  • Appeared to be the only reason to include Carol's partner Susan in Friends.
  • American Dad! had an episode about gay adoption that featured homosexuals of both genders wanting kids. However, the episode's climax involved Stan kidnapping two children from their lesbian mothers.
  • Dykes to Watch Out For deals with this as but as it is Cast Full of Gay there are many characters who don't want kids, and indeed the fact that Toni and Clarice want a conventional life with kids does irk the uber-principled Mo.
    • There is also her ex-girlfriend Harriet who becomes pregnant through sperm donation while single, and later Ginger (and later Lois, who had earlier said that she has the maternal instincts of a doorknob) dates Jasmine who has a transgendered son.
    • When Toni was pregnant with Raffi, other characters commented:
    "It used to be being a lesbian got you out of having to have kids. Now ever since my mama saw lesbian mothers on Oprah, I've been up to my eyeballs in clippings about sperm banks"
  • In another similarly Cast Full of Gay comic strip Chelsea Boys a lesbian couple asks Nathan to donate sperm but despite him being gay they for some reason want to conceive "naturally" with actual sex, which is achieved with viagra, a gay porn playing, a Brad Pitt mask and the other partner pegging him.
  • While Truth in Television for some as seen in particuar episodes of Wife Swap not so for others such as Ellen DeGeneres and Portia De Rossi who have gone on record as saying that they are happy just being a married couple.

A Sister Trope of Has Two Mommies.
Community Feedback Replies: 21
  • July 4, 2009
    random surfer
    NYPD Blue - a pair of lesbians (one was a cop) got Greg Medevoy to donate the sperm.
  • July 5, 2009
    Koveras
    One of the first things Nanoha and Fate did after reaching the age of consent and moving in together? Why, adopt a daughter together, of course.
  • July 5, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    American Dad had an episode about gay adoption that featured homosexuals of both genders wanting kids. However, the episode's climax involved Stan kidnapping two children from their lesbian mothers.
  • July 5, 2009
    Scuba Air Surfer
    @ Koveras: As much as i like Shoujo-ai i can't include that example since Word Of God hasn't confirmed what's what between the two. Subtext be damned (e.g. sharing a bed - which i know is a staple of yuri couples).
  • July 5, 2009
    Koveras
    Meh, someone's gonna add it to the launched page, anyway. ;) And it won't be me. %)
  • July 5, 2009
    bigboy
    i can't help thinking you got a bit of an Axe to grind Scuba Air Surfer
  • July 5, 2009
    Andyzero
    The funny thing about the Nanoha example is there are still people who think they should magically make a child of their own.
  • July 5, 2009
    Ettina
    Would Willow and Tara looking after Dawn when Buffy was dead count?
  • July 5, 2009
    Micah
    @Ettina: I don't think so, as there's no indication that they had any particular desire to beforehand. It just became necessary.
  • July 5, 2009
    Landstander
    Dykes To Watch Out For deals with this as but as it is Cast Full Of Gay there are many characters who don't want kids, and indeed the fact that Toni and Clarice want a conventional life with kids does irk the uber-principled Mo. There is also her ex-girlfriend Harriet who becomes pregnant through sperm donation while single, and later Ginger (and later Lois, who had earlier said that she has the maternal instincts of a doorknob) dates Jasmine who has a transgendered son. When Toni was pregnant with Raffi, other characters commented "It used to be being a lesbian got you out of having to have kids. Now ever since my mama saw lesbian mothers on Oprah, I've been up to my eyeballs in clippings about sperm banks"

    Also in the similarly Cast Full Of Gay comic strip Chelsea Boys a lesbian couple asks Nathan to donate sperm but despite him being gay they for some reason want to conceive "naturally" with actual sex, which is achieved with viagra, a gay porn playing, a Brad Pitt mask and the other partner pegging him.
  • July 6, 2009
    Scuba Air Surfer
    @ Koveras: I've no doubt about such a possibility and such a person who does is well within their right to do so i'l just sigh in resignation and look out to be amused for the off chance an edit war kicks off over it by Nanoha/Yuuno shippers.

    @ bigboy: While personally i think pregnancy/parenting arcs in general are possibly one of the most boring storylines that could befall a character (e.g. Cuddy on House) i can't honestly say i have an axe to grind with this specific storyline since i'm not gay nor am i a woman so i have some objective detachment to the issue. The tone you may be getting from this entry comes from loosely paraphrasing the linked article in a condensed, trope-like form so it's really Sarah Warn's words and you can be sure that she does have an axe to grind.
  • July 6, 2009
    Arivne
    Film
    • If These Walls Could Talk 2. In the segment 2000, Fran (Sharon Stone) and Kal (Ellen DeGeneres) decide to have a baby together. A turkey baster is involved.
  • July 6, 2009
    arromdee
    Haruka and Michiru raise Hotaru in Sailor Moon. Not sure if this counts since they don't intentionally seek out a kid, and in the manga Setsuna is also helping them raise her.
  • July 6, 2009
    Sir Psycho Sexy
    Has Two Mommies is, naturally, a Sister Trope.

    Also plays off of gender roles/Babies Make Everything Better in the same way that All Gays Are Promiscuous plays off of A Man Is Not A Virgin.
  • July 8, 2009
    Scuba Air Surfer
    @ arromdee: Hmm since there was no intent i imagine not, would concievably belong in Has Two Mommies.
  • July 9, 2009
    SomeSortOfTroper
    This isn't really a "All Blank Are Blank" trope is it? The examples aren't bearing out a consistent pattern of every lesbian in the show having the desire to have children and if it did, would it be separate from "all women want to have children"?
  • July 9, 2009
    Dracomicron
    The token lesbians in Queer As Folk decide to have a baby; naturally they select their friend, gay Heroic Sociopath Brian, to be the biological father.
  • July 10, 2009
    Scuba Air Surfer
    @ Some Sort Of Troper: Bear in mind that "All Lesbians Want Kids" is only a working title seemed better (read: more trope-like) than the alternative but anyway this trope is specific to lesbian characters for some reason or another eventually wanting a child, admittedly the "all women want to have children" is an underlying theme (see page 2 of 1st linked article, i put it there for a reason) yet this is more concerned with the ongoing titular trend. Still if it's the title that's giving the giving the impression of inconsistency then i can always take out the "All".
  • July 10, 2009
    arromdee
    Unfortunately, this falls under what I've suggested as Catch-22 Prejudice Trope Index. It paints as bad something which might be put in for the bad reasons stated, but which also might be put in just as another story element.
  • July 11, 2009
    Scuba Air Surfer
    Hmm under your trope you would appear to be correct, though i must mention that this trope does allow for positive examples such as The Wire one though i guess it can be subjective as to what constitutes as a good example. Hey it is a sister trope!
  • July 11, 2009
    Dick Richardson
    There is a reason why Sperm (and egg) banks exist, right?

    (Okay, that's one of the reasons why.)
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