Created By: DragonQuestZ on June 4, 2009
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In Everything But Name

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"It isn't like System Shock 2. It is System Shock 2.

Or as another possible name "With The Serial Numbers Filed Off"

The inversion of In-Name-Only, when a Follow the Leader seems to be almost exactly like the leader, just with "the serial numbers filed off" (a somewhat common nickname for this trope). The blatant copying of characters and plot is on a level that would make even makers of The Mockbuster blush.

Sometimes this can be by the very creators of the source work, perhaps as a form of applying Captain Ersatz to an entire series.

Compare Mission-Pack Sequel, when a follow-up is almost just like the first game.

But to avoid Natter, let's limit this to examples of accusations or confessions in media.
Community Feedback Replies: 15
  • April 18, 2009
    Anemotaxis
    Sounds like Better By A Different Name, although it doesn't cover exactly the same scope (like later works by the same creator).
  • April 18, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    That is a snark about being better than. This is claiming the work is almost exactly like the other work.
  • April 18, 2009
    SAMAS
    A note for the Wonder Boy example: part of the reason he got away with it was probably because the Wonder Boy franchise took a rather drastic turn in theme to the standard Medieval European Fantasy.
  • April 19, 2009
    feo takahari
    A while back, computer game developer Ambrosia put out a platformer called Ferazel's Wand. The fellow who came up with it left the company and couldn't get the rights to make a sequel. Instead, he announced his intention to make a game called Refazel. (Incidentally, I don't know if it was ever completed--anyone who cares can check.)
  • April 19, 2009
    Atz
    Capcom attempted to sue Data East for producing Fighter's History, an alleged Street Fighter ripoff. They lost the case, however.
  • April 19, 2009
    Unknown Troper
  • April 20, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    That is about things that are as close as possible to a sequel.
  • May 8, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    Literary example: Warren Murphy, the creator of The Destroyer, wrote a series of mysteries about an insurance investigator named Digger. When Murphy had to chance publishers, he continued the series for another publisher. But since his original publisher owned the character, he changed the detective's name to Trace. The names of the supporting characters were also changed, but otherwise the series were identical. Both detectives worked out of Los Vegas and a half-Italian, half-Japanese girlfriend who was a blackjack dealer and part-time hooker.
  • May 8, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    If it's a character, it's Captain Ersatz. Unless he rewrote one of the stories, it doesn't count.
  • May 8, 2009
    Madrugada
    Sounds like the Destroyer is this trope. it's not just one character that was duplicated, it was the setting, the minor characters and the whole concept as well.

    I believe that the Able Team and Phoenix Force count, as they're simply 'The executioner' with the names changed. Marvel's The Punisher is also virtually identical to ''The Executioner, except that it's comic books, not novels. Again. the characters and plots are basically the same.
  • May 8, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    If so, then we need to make the line clear between this and Expy and Captain Ersatz.
  • May 8, 2009
    Recon5
    Ignore this. I didn't read the OP properly.
  • May 9, 2009
    AvatarofRage
    Well the difference would be that this covers an entire work, while Expy and Captain Ersatz are single characters.

    I.E Considering Star Wars. If a character had blond hair, grew up on a farm, and possesses telekinesis, clairvoyance, and a laser sword, that'd be a Captain Ersatz of Luke Skywalker.

    If, on the other hand, the entire plot of a work was farmboy has his family killed, and joins La Resistance against The Empire, gets training as a mystical warrior by the last existing master, and finds out he has familial connections to high-ranking members of both sides of the war, and is ultimately instrumental in winning the war, redeeming the evil relative in the process, THAT could be called In Everything But Name.

    Obviously, some degree of leniency may be allowed, but you get the general idea.
  • May 9, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    And if we apply it to a franchise done this way, as is The Destroyer, it could still work.
  • June 5, 2009
    JoveHack

Three days must pass before this YKTTW is Launchworthy or Discardable

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