Created By: ShanghaiSlave on November 11, 2013 Last Edited By: ShanghaiSlave on December 11, 2013
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(Hats pls) Creature Hunter Organization

Plot revolving around an organization of hunters versus a race of malicious monsters.

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Basic Trope: The story has an organization or group formed to fight against a race of monsters.
  • Straight: Slayers Troperia is about the Slayer Division of The Troperian Army. they were trained specifically for fighting Overlord Evulz's Made of Magic Big Creepy-Crawlies army.
  • Exaggerated: The Troperian Army creates different divisions for every different kind of creature that attacks Troperia.
  • Downplayed:
    • The Slayer Division consists of three people, and Evulz only made a few of his Made of Magic creatures. so the "division" isn't even a separate part of their original team. but they get some special attention in-universe.
    • the Troperian Army has a division for capturing monsters rather than killing them.
  • Justified:
    • The Troperian Army do not have enough resources to train all the soldiers. so they opted to train a some of them and make them Elite Mooks with Crippling Overspecialization.
    • There aren't a many monsters that can be caught so it's not worth training the entire army in capturing them.
  • Inverted: Monsters are created/trained to fight against armies who are equipped with specialized weapons.
  • Subverted:Due to lack of funds, The training for the unit who will specialize in fighting Evulz's Magic Mooks was halted and the trainees were never officially given a unique designation.
    • The monsters turn out to be sentient, and the organization is now trying to become friends with them instead.
  • Double Subverted:However, when Evulz launched an attack with his Made of Magic Mooks, The trainees were easily able to repel them, and the mooks dropped stuff that the military needed so the Trainee units were rewarded with new uniforms and the collective title "Slayer Division".
  • Parodied:Slayers Troperia is about the Slayer Division of The Troperian Army. Armed to the Brim with Depleted Phlebotinum Shells powered guns. They were formed specifically... for Public Service Pest Control.
  • Zig Zagged: The organization keeps getting reformed and disbanded for every failure or success they have.
  • Deconstructed:
  • Reconstructed:
    • The system is reorganized to be more caring towards the organizations' members, and The Power of Friendship pulls through, giving a lot of them hope to fight again (and subsequently, for the audience to root for them again).
    • Lots of the famous members are still good at heart and genuinely desire to protect humanity.
  • Averted: No specialized groups are formed to fight monsters in the work.
    • A Bug War where a regular military force is fighting the bugs.
  • Enforced: "An army fighting The Horde is pretty cliche. why not make The Horde into monsters and have a group or army unit that specialize at fighting them?"
  • Lampshaded: The group/organization members never fails to mention that they are in a highly specialized unit to any new people they meet.
  • Invoked: Someone gets the bright idea of observing the monsters and eventually learning of their weakness(es) and proposed to train people and form a group to fight them.
  • Exploited: Knowing they've discovered his mooks weakness and that they formed a group for them. Evulz has set up his next attack to switch his Mooks around so the Slayer Division will be against Mooks they don't know how to fight.
  • Defied: The higher ups insist that each soldier should be capable of handling anything Evulz would throw at them.
  • Discussed: *While fighting monsters* "Aw man, why are we the ones fighting these monsters? doesn't the army have a division of experts in killing these things?"
  • Conversed:
    Aries: Why do these soldiers risk their lives fighting giants with boxcutter swords? they have big guns and they work.
    Bella: Come on, the author has already explained that in the first episodes and you still doubt it?

Description Needs Help, OP no english speakee good.

indexes: Military and Warfare Tropes, Ensemble Tropes, Big Trope Hunting, Speculative Fiction Tropes, The Index Team

note, this is just a more generic writeup of the two YKTTW's mentioned within here. since i've been asking about what to do in KKC for god knows how long i gave up on waiting and decided to make this to see what happens.
They counted on the humans to hide, to give up, to fail.
They never considered our ability to stand, to endure,
that wed rise to the challenge.

'Raleigh Beckett, Pacific Rim

A plot trope that involves a fantastic version of the most basic conflicts: Man vs Beast.

In a World where humanity is terrorized by a race of Nigh Invulnerable behemoths. Humanity is at a disadvantage, but at some point, they discover their enemies' weakness, and now have a fighting chance. And thus begins the tale of their struggle.

The most basic form of this is that a certain organization is in charge of recruiting people and equipping them with a specific set of equipment and/or skills vital to exploiting the weaknesses of the monsters they are fighting. In cases where there is a Masquerade, their purpose is to uphold it by preventing muggles from discovering the existence of such monsters.

The organization is usually the only one of its kind, but within a global reach there will often be "branches." Size and scope also vary. They can be as large and publicized as the military, but an Oddly Small Organization or a small The Squad/Five-Man Band would also do.

There usually isn't a prerequisite for its recruits; as long as they can fight, they can join. In verses that rely on Applied Phlebotinum, compatibilty with the phlebotinum is the only requirement, and you usually cannot refuse to join them, especially if compatible people are rare.

The monsters are usually characterized by being non-sentient beasts that devour or destroy humans or resources which make them a direct threat. Sometimes though, they are sentient but Always Chaotic Evil with little regard for self-preservation. Whatever their flavor, they're out to multiply and destroy, and our heroes' job is to stop them from doing so.

The monster's origin usually vary from being simply Aliens(or Angels & Demons or Robots & Golems); to coming from a single Hellgate; to being a result of Creating Life Gone Horribly Wrong; to being a mutant strain of an existing lifeform ; or a beastly sort of Henchmen Race created by the Big Bad; to simply just popping out of nowhere. whatever their origin. there will already be quite a lot of them already by the time the story kicks in.

Whatever their origin, they will always be Nigh Invulnerable (or just Made of Iron) or have Healing Factor which makes them hard to kill. this doesn't mean they are invincible though. these monsters usually have an Achilles' Heel — usually in the form of Applied Phlebotinum that is the only thing that can harm them (which our organization would exploit as weapons), or a certain weak point in their body, which is usually a core placed in a strategic part of its body.

This trope has two common variations:

Remember, for the trope to count:
  • There must be an organization, or at the very least a team. solo examples count if they have a group backing them, or at least, it is implied they have offscreen members.

  • The monsters must be impersonal "forces of nature"— as in, like Generic Doomsday Villain, they are largely defined by the threat they pose rather than their motivations. Ones with sentient higher ups or ones with a bunch of sentient monsters of the same kind still count.

  • The monsters may or may not have a weakness. them having a single origin or kind is more important than them having a weakness whether Weaponized Weakness or Achilles' Heel.

Within the subtropes, there is the common element of "being imprisoned". whether by a literal wall (like in Attack on Titan or God Eater Burst) or by humanity being forced to live in Citadel Cities (like in The Matrix or Strike Witches) due to relentless attacks by the monsters. The plot will usually involve the organization finding ways for humanity to live outside these "walls" and have character dream about how The World Is Just Awesome and that they and everyone else needs to see it.

Subtrope of The Hunter. Sister Trope to Bug War, which is about humanity in general fighting Big Creepy-Crawlies or Horde of Alien Locusts, and may or may not employ this trope. Compare Who You Gonna Call?, for an organization that tackles the supernatural in general in an otherwise normal world. See also The Men in Black, an organization tasked with upholding The Masquerade.

Examples

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    Anime & Manga 
  • Attack on Titansoldiers equipped with 3D Maneuver Gear note  vs Titans. They also employ other weapons like cannons, but the 3DMG is their main equipment; as it gives them the most mobility without actually flying to reach the titans' weakpoint: the back of their necks. The titans are simply giant, Humanoid Abominations with various degree of human-ness and intelligence.

  • The setting of Blue Gender is a Bad Future in which Big Creepy-Crawlies known as the Blue have taken over the world. Mankind's greatest hope for survival lies with the military, who combat the Blue using Mini-Mecha called Armor Shrikes.

  • Neon Genesis Evangelion: NERV is an organization that uses EVAs to fight an alien race known as the Angels. The reason Angels can't be destroyed by conventional weapons is because they sport AT-fields, Deflector Shields that can completely block even the explosive power of a multi-megaton bomb. The most efficent way to penetrate the AT-field is stated to be via close combat, for which the EVAs use high-frequency vibrating "Progressive Knives". The EVAs can even build up an AT-field of their own, and eventually it's revealed that the EVAs are actually created by cloning them from the same source the Angels themselves were born. The troops themselves are just three "Children" (which is also singular in-universe), who are the only ones capable of piloting said mecha... and they have issues to take care about themselves.

  • The Strike Witches are one of the many squads of witches equipped with vehicle mountable guns who wear Striker Units against 'Neuroi. Striker Units are plane enginesque legwear that amplifies their magic and allows them to flynote  and project Force Fields to guard against Neuroi attacks which include Frickin' Laser Beams, bullets, and full-on Wave Motion Gun. the Neuroi are aliens which take the form of huge aircrafts (pic) and literally consume swaths of the earth to gain their power.

  • The Ganmen(or Gunmen) of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann are Humongous Mecha which were originally used in lunar resource exploration, but were repurposed  as goons to keep humans from living in the surface.

  • D.Gray-Man has the Exorcists from the Black Order with their Innocence vs Akuma. the innocence themselves are completely non-uniform and can be anything. but are capable of morphing and evolving. They fight the Akuma, who are created when a living human in mourning over the loss of a loved one makes a contract with the Millenium Earl to bring the soul of said lost loved one back. they goes around killing in order to grow and evolve to become stronger and better serve the Earl's purpose. Innocence, also known as The Crystal of God. is a strange substance that can bind with humans called Accomodators to form anti-akuma-weapons. which come as Equipment type, Crystal type, Parasitic type. these are used in fighting Akuma.

  • In Soul Eater, the DWMA was founded to train Meisters and Weapons (who power up by eating souls) to hunt "Demon Eggs" (humans who have become corrupted by consuming the souls of the innocent), Kishin (Eldritch Abominations that form from said humans when they get too powerful) and their strongest, Kishin Asura, as well as Witches (from whom the weapons originally got their abilities).

  • Gaist Crusher is a very simplistic take on this. Humanity has harvested powerful minerals called Gaimetals, but an alien threat seems to be turning them into violent monsters called Gaist. In order to combat them, the government has established the Gaist Crushers, humans using Powered Armor made of Gaimetal to fight. They're all very young for some reason, and the main character gets recruited after being forced to don Gaist Crusher gear in an emergency situation.

  • the Sky Girls are Japan's main line of defense against the setting's remaining WORMs ( Weapon Of Raid Machines). they are Older Than They Look girls chosen for their compatibility to the available Sonic Divers— which are Transforming Mecha with plane and bipedal modes. ideal for high speed travel and aerial combat. the WORMs are artificial lifeforms consisting of millions of nanocells that take the forms of creatures they see. the girls are required to wear Latex Space Suit made of nanocells for protection because of this.

  • Senki Zesshou Symphogear has the Mobile Disaster Response Corps who have the so called "Valkyries", girls attuned to mysterious crystals called Relic, which allows them to transform said crystals into Power Armor which comes with free weapons via singing— which amplifies the inherent but dormant powers of the crystal. they fight the Noise, which are aliens which vaguely take the shape of earth creatures and have Natural Weapon. they do not follow the law of conservation of energy and disintegrate any humans along with themselves if they come into direct contact with one.

  • World Trigger features the Border Defense Agency against the aliens called Neighbors, who's members use the aliens' own Trion energy powered weapons called Trigger. their members are people who have high trion levels. The BDA was formed specifically to defend against the neighbors. although it was revealed in the first episode that what they were fighting were actually just their drones called Trion Soldiers and that the neighbors are actually Humanoid Aliens.

  • Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign: Earth's population is decimated by a virus, and the survivors are attacked by monsters or enslaved by vampires. Elite members of the army are able to make contracts with demons to earn phlebotinum weapons which are the only things capable of killing vampires.

  • Theoretically, the purpose of Bleach's shinigami is to fight tortured souls that become Hollows so they can be reincarnated and stop eating people. Since most of the series revolves around the shinigamis' conflicts with each other, however, we don't get to see a lot of this happening.

  • The Magical Girl Warriors of Puella Magi Madoka Magica use their phlebotinum-powered weapons to fight Witches, dangerous Eldritch Abominations whose reality warping pose threats to humanity.

  • The titular warriors in Claymore are genetically engineered female supersoldiers designed to fight demons known as "yoma" and their evolved forms, giant monsters called Awakened Beings. The procedure to become a Claymore gives the user enhanced strength, speed, and abilities, but at great cost. This all turns out to be a front, as the Organization is actually breeding monsters in order to fight dragons.

  • Gantz: Gantz is a Deadly Game where the players are equipped with alien technology and sent to destroy aliens of various shapes and sizes hiding on Earth. The players' equipment includes special suits that give the wearer superhuman strength, absurdly sharp, blade elongating katanas, and guns that shoot invisible, Painfully Slow Projectiles powerful enough to turn their target into Ludicrous Gibs. Later it's revealed that the purpose of the game is to train soldiers capable of fighting an upcoming Alien Invasion by a race of giant-sized aliens. The technology used by the players comes from alien races previously exterminated by the invading alien race.

  • Haruhi Suzumiya has the Agency, a mysterious group of psychics who fight manifestations of Haruhi's teen angst in a Phantom Zone of sorts. It Makes Sense in Context.

  • In InuYasha, there used to be a group of people dedicated to exterminate the Youkai who were causing mayhem in the villages. During a gory attack orchestrated by Naraku, all of them except two were killed. The two survivors are Sango and her brother Kohaku.

  • Played With in Date A Live, The Amazon Brigade Anti-Spirit Team is tasked of fighting the Spirits, Person of Mass Destruction that has been causing phenomena called Spacequakes— which are "earth" quakes IN SPACEnote . The thing is, they are horribly ineffective at fighting the spirits (except for the two elites among them, who are One Women Armies) since the spirits have powerful Deflector Shields. This trope is subverted in two ways:
    • one, the spirits are sentient and can be reasoned with. they can also have their powers sealed, reducing them into normal humans. so there really isn't much reason fighting them (unless they're psychos).
    • two, the AST has their rival organization: Ratatorsk, who decided to have someone date these spirits to submission, since they conveniently all happen to be girls. This is because their leader is also sort of one, and had her powers sealed as well.
    Film 
  • Pacific Rim: Giant, city-destroying monsters (actually called "Kaiju" in-universe) emerge from a portal on the floor of the Pacific Ocean. The governments of the world realize that these Kaiju aren't going to stop coming, and that conventional weapons aren't suited to kill them without massive collateral damage. So the Jaeger program—consisting of Humongous Mecha, each piloted by two brain-linked humans—is created to deal with the threat.

  • In The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions, the Machines' main force for hunting humans in the real world are Sentinels, killer robots resembling cephalopods. In the human city of Zion, Captian Mifune leads a defense force of Armored Personnel Units, capable of dual-wielding guns big enough to take down the Sentinels. (Humans working outside can use EMP's to defend themselves from Sentinels, but for a variety of reasons, those are not practical to use anywhere near Zion.) This becomes a major plot point in Revolutions, when an army of Sentinels invades Zion, and Captain Mifune's team is the main line of defense.

  • John Carpenter's Vampires involves a group of vampire hunters out to stop the head vampire from getting a cross which will let him go out in the sun. There are other vampire hunting teams all around the world, all funded by the Catholic church.
    Literature 
  • Robert Heinlein's novel Starship Troopers focuses on a war between humans and Big Creepy-Crawlies from outer space. The mobile infantry in the story uses power armor designed to enhance a soldier's strength and agility in order to combat the Insectoid Aliens. Averted in the film adaptation due to budget and technological constraints.

  • Played with in the Night's Watch from A Song of Ice and Fire. They were created specifically to defend the realm from magical ice zombies called the Others (and their minions, the wights) but lack any specialized weaponry, and, by the time the series begins, the organization has devolved into an Army of Thieves and Whores after centuries of peace. Although as the series goes on, they may be played straight, as the Others are hinted to be making a comeback, and dragonglass is discovered to be very effective in fighting them.

  • Dragonriders of Pern Is set in a society that has shun technology, so Dragons were genetically engineered and used as planes to fight against the invading "Thread", some sort of Alien Fungus that work like Horde of Alien Locusts.

  • The eponymous witchers in The Witcher series hunt all kinds of monsters, but specifically those who invaded the world after the Conjunction of the Spheres. They would fall under the phlebotinum-powered subtype, since they are genetically enhanced since childhood and have number of supernatural traits to complement their Training from Hell.
    Videogames 
  • The monster hunting game God Eater Burst is about the God Eaters of Fenrir. they are teenagers conscripted for their compatibilty to the God Arcs— weapons that come as swords or guns, or both together. They use these to fight the Aragami organisms made up from colonies of Oracle Cells which eat and take the appearance of whatever they eat. They can only be damaged by other colonies of oracle cells. Which is what the God Arcs are made up of, making them technically Aragami as well.

  • Monster Hunter is based on this trope. In the games, an organization of hunters known as The Guild hires people so they can find and kill (or capture, depending on the case) large monsters. From a meta perspective, the hunters hired are the players who connect online and play together to complete the hunting quests.

  • Toukiden is another monster hunting game with a similar premise. Set in the land of Nakatsu. Your character is a Mononofu, One of the Warriors who specialize in fighting Oni. You and several other Mononofu live in and protect the village of Utakata from Oni attacks. Mononofu are armed with conventional weapons like Kusarigama, Bows, Longswords, and Gauntlets, but they also able to channel Mitamas— spirits of Ancient Warriors, to augment their abilities and attacks.

  • Kingdom Hearts has the Keyblade Wielders with their Keyblade vs Heartless/Unversed/Nobodies/Dream Eaters. The organization part is covered by the first keyblade wielders note . Although the trio of Terra, Aqua, and Ventus counts since they exclusively hunted down Unversed in Birth By Sleep. Keyblades are Swiss Army Weapon that function as a Cool Sword and Magic Wand. it is also capable of transforming into a "Keyblade Glider" which is exactly what it sounds, or other weapons like bazookas. though mostly known as the most effective weapons against creatures of darkness. which are:
    • The Heartless consume people's "hearts".
      • Nobodies, introduced in Kingdom Hearts II, who are born when a Heart is swallowed by darkness and becomes a Heartless. They are the remaining parts left behind by the heart: the body, giving a Nobody form, and the soul, giving the Nobody life.
      • The Unversed of Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, are formed from the negative emotions produced when Vanitas was created from Ventus.
      • Dream Eaters, who are a species of creature introduced in Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance. As their name suggests, they consume dreams. They fall under two major categories, Nightmares , which eat good dreams and plant bad ones, and Spirits, which eat bad dreams.
  • In Skyrim DLC Dawnguard you can either join an ambitious vampire clan, or the titular vampire hunting organization.
    • The main game also has the Vigilants of Stendarr, a militant order of priesthood that dedicate themselves to hunting daedra, witches, werewolves and the like.
    Web Original 
  • RWBY
    • The students of Signal and Beacon (and others) use Mix And Match Weapons to fight The Grim. The Grim are A bunch of monstrous big black animals with something resembling a White Mask of Doom. They lack Aura and are more vulnerable to the weapons (which is good since they're Always Chaotic Evil and these weapons are in the good guys hands) The weapons used are amalgamations of a Melee weapon and a firearmException  the only things these weapons have in common are that they are powered by Dust. in addition to this, they and every other living being (except for Grim) has an aura which is used (either consciously or subconsciously) to augment their offensive and defensive capabilities.
Community Feedback Replies: 72
  • November 11, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    bump.
  • November 11, 2013
    Snicka
    The Laconic immediately reminded me of Ghost Busters. Are they an example? They are a special group that fights monsters, but not a military force.
  • November 11, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    no. there is explicit lack of The Masquerade here. also, the conflict here is focused on the organization vs the monsters.

    for a guide, the "straightest" examples so far that i know of are Strike Witches, Attack On Titan, and God Eater Burst.

    solo examples are covered under The Hunter.
  • November 11, 2013
    MetaFour
    More info on The Matrix example:

    • In The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions, the Machines' main force for hunting humans in the real world are Sentinels, killer robots resembling cephalopods. In the human city of Zion, Captian Mifune leads a defense force of Armored Personnel Units, capable of dual-wielding guns big enough to take down the Sentinels. (Humans working outside can use EMP's to defend themselves from Sentinels, but for a variety of reasons, those are not practical to use anywhere near Zion.) This becomes a major plot point in Revolutions, when an army of Sentinels invades Zion, and Captain Mifune's team is the main line of defense.
  • November 11, 2013
    DAN004
    • Le edit *
  • November 11, 2013
    DAN004
    Kinda thinking that "Heartless Hunting Organization" can be lumped together with the other one. It seems Too Rare To Trope by itself.
  • November 12, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    that's why i opted to Internal Subtropes. though can't say it can be "lumped". as none of the examples in KKC use Morph Weapons.
  • November 13, 2013
    Arivne
    Namespaced and italicized work titles, corrected several improper Example Indentations and some spelling errors.
  • November 13, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ thanks.

    I put Claymore in a "general" section. thinking about it, they don't fight giants exclusively.

    also added common elements at the end of the description. any thoughts about it?

    btw, anybody got index suggestions? the previous YKTTW's have it under Military And Warfare Tropes
  • November 14, 2013
    AP
    • The BPRD from Hell Boy specializes in any sort of creature you care to name.
  • November 14, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ That's Who You Gonna Call, they deal with anything so they aren't very specialized, and the monsters aren't from the same metaorigin. but thanks to you i now know what else is missing in the description.
  • November 14, 2013
    Larkmarn
    • The God Eaters in God Eater Burst are humanity's first, last, and only line of defense against the Aragami, beings whose healing factor is so great that only the God Arcs, specialized weapons of the God Eaters, can harm them.
  • November 14, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ that's actually one of the first examples under Heartless Hunting Organization.

    btw, i request future editors to simply point out mistakes for a while. i'm currently expanding on the description. and we don't really want our edits overlapping.

    UPDATE:done for now.
  • November 14, 2013
    SilverWings
    Gaist Crusher is a very simplistic take on this. Humanity has harvested powerful minerals called Gaimetals, but an alien threat seems to be turning them into violent monsters called Gaist. In order to combat them, the government has established the Gaist Crushers, humans using Powered Armor made of Gaimetal to fight. They're all very young for some reason, and the main character gets recruited after being forced to don Gaist Crusher gear in an emergency situation.
  • November 14, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ sweet. added. you should have mentioned they're pretty big. checked some vids in youtube and they fit under Kaiju Killing Korps.

    now that i think of it. Senki Zesshou Symphogear counts. but i unfortunately forgot most plot details so can't give context.

    also, anyone here seen Sky Girls? that still needs context.

    also. i'm starting to see the Power Armor variant more now...
  • November 17, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    aww, no responses?

    not even a critique on the description? i think there's quite a lot of examples already.

    also needs a quote and image.
  • November 17, 2013
    DAN004
    Maybe a pic from Attack On Titan could work.
  • November 21, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ will try to see if i have one that fits.

    I gave context to the Sky Girls and Senki Zesshou Symphogear examples with a bit of research. thank heavens for The Wiki Rule. made me more interested in Sky Girls now. might watch it soon.

    also moved some examples around. they fit better on their new categories.

    any critique on the description or quote suggestion? this has lots of examples already.

    also needs a playing with.
  • November 21, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    this? not from Attack On Titan. there aren't any that shows both a titan and a bunch of corps members.

    both openings make good pics too.
  • November 21, 2013
    DAN004
    Loving the one from God Eater.
  • November 21, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
  • November 21, 2013
    SKJAM
    World Trigger looks like this at initial description with the monstrous Neighbors coming to Earth from an adjacent dimensional world and Border, a special agency with phlebontinum weapons formed to keep them from rampaging out of control. But as of the first chapter, it's revealed that there are humanoid Neighbors. It's later explained that the monstrous invaders are the Neighbors' bioweapons, and the Neighbors' dimension is just as politically fractured as Earth.
  • November 22, 2013
    aurora369
    The Night Watch in A Song Of Ice And Fire is a "general" Creature Defense Force against the Others and their undead minions. However, they haven't fought for their original purpose for a very long time and became little more than a dumping ground for thieves and murderers.
  • November 22, 2013
    Synchronicity
    ^*Night's Watch. They don't use specialized weapons, however; although with the discovery of dragonglass as an effective material against Others that might soon change.

  • November 22, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ a group who's only onscreen member is Koizumi? i'm doubtful if that counts. are there other named members besides Koizumi? offscreen groups are questionable examples.

    ^^ The nightwatch example needs to be integrated with Synchronicity's addendum. but i'm not familiar with that work so can't help with that.
  • November 22, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    by the way, there's enough examples already. what this one needs is a critique on the description, a trope image, and a quote. does anyone have suggestions for those?

    also, how about a playing with? is that applicable here?
  • November 22, 2013
    Sailor11sedna
    It's still new, but Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign seems to count. Earth's population is decimated by a virus, and the survivors are attacked by monsters or enslaved by vampires. Elite members of the army are able to make contracts with demons to earn phlebotinum weapons which are the only things capable of killing vampires. So a lot of people want to be in the elite squad.
  • November 22, 2013
    SafariMonkey
    Another example: Avatar: Legend Of Korra: Avatar Wan lived in a village where they had a team that went out to attack the spirits and keep them away using Firebending.
  • November 22, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    Safari Monkey — needs more context. ideal example:
    • <describe the organization>. <describe the members>.
      <describe weapon/equipment/phlebotinum used>. <describe monsters>.

    see the Senki Zesshou Symphogear example above.
  • November 22, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    Work Pages Are A Free Launch — someone might wanna make a page for Seraph Of The End. just sayin'.

    by the way,

    again, this need critique on description, trope quote/image & caption, playing with.

    there is enough examples. more examples should be after the page's launched.
  • November 23, 2013
    Synchronicity
    ^^^^^ The point is that Koizumi claims they're this. Besides, the couple of times we see the monsters, they're pretty dangerous.

    You can also add that sometimes, the purpose of such an organization is to uphold the masquerade - to stop the mass panic that would erupt if it turned out vampires, for example, were secretly lurking in the shadows.

    Notes on the description:
    • Is Conscription really necessary? A lot of the examples I'm familiar with don't have it - in Pacific Rim and Attack on Titan and Soul Eater, for example, people sign up for this stuff.

    Notes on the image:
    • It's pretty okay. KUBIS, honestly. Not ideal (it doesn't show the "race" of giant kaiju whatever) but it works.
    • This from Strike Witches? Doesn't show the "race of enemies" either, but at least it's a single pic.
    EDIT: YOLP it is from Sky Girls. Sorry, I'm getting my search history mixed up.

    Rewriting the Song of Ice and Fire example:
    • Played with in the Night's Watch from A Song Of Ice And Fire. They were created specifically to defend the realm from magical ice zombies called the Others (and their minions, the wights) but lack any specialized weaponry, and, by the time the series begins, the organization has devolved into an Army Of Thieves And Whores after centuries of peace. Although as the series goes on, they may be played straight, as the Others are hinted to be making a comeback, and dragonglass is discovered to be very effective in fighting them.

    I know you said no examples, but I might forget to add these after it gets launched, although admittedly they're very masquerade-y worlds:

    • Theoretically, the purpose of Bleach's shinigami is to fight tortured souls that become Hollows so they can be reincarnated and stop eating people. Since most of the series revolves around the shinigamis' conflicts with each other, however, we don't get to see a lot of this happening.
    • The Magical Girl Warriors of Puella Magi Madoka Magica use their phlebotinum-powered weapons to fight Witches, dangerous Eldritch Abominations whose reality warping pose threats to humanity.

  • November 23, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^
    • @koizumi. well, good enough for me. adding.
    • i thought that would be implied in in the (usually without masquerade) thing at the beginning. but i'll put that in.
    • conscription is not necessary, though i see the way i worded it makes it seems so. will fix that.
    • image: that's from Sky Girls and...it has terrible quality. KUBIS for now indeed.
    • kay, will add those, and no more.
  • November 24, 2013
    Synchronicity
    Went through the description and fixed minor capitalization/grammar errors. Also, what is the image from? Be sure to link it to its source work.
  • November 24, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ Thanks, but I reverted your edit in the first paragraph, it always starts with In A World. also modified it a bit to sound more like narration.

    the image is linked now. took me a while to figure out how to put links in images. cheated by looking at a source elsewhere.

    By the way, it was suggested that i trim down the description. frankly, the only thing i can see as filler here is the distinction between the subtropes. but they're distinct enough so i don't really know how i can go about doing that.
  • November 25, 2013
    DAN004
    I think ever since its very first show, Super Sentai / Power Rangers has always been this.
  • November 25, 2013
    aurora369
    2 Synchronicity: if I remember correctly (possibly I'm mixing up with the TV series) obsidian blades and their effect were discovered by the old Night Watch, and the current Watchmen just discovered an old cache of these knives.
  • November 25, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^^ they would technically count if only they were a little more like symphogear, Gaist Crusher or madoka, where the monsters are of the same origin or were uniform in some way. Himitsu Sentai Goranger had the usual "themed monsters" shtick going on. their Mooks would have make them count though.

    that's also why the agents of The Matrix count, because they were more "impersonal" force of nature than regular baddies with agenda.
  • November 25, 2013
    Nyperold
    Hmm. The name sort of makes it sound like the creatures are being defended. Anti Creature Defense Force?

    Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but...

    • In Final Fantasy XIII, NORA started out as an unofficial group who patrolled Bodhum for trouble, usually in the form of encroachment by dangerous forms of wildlife. Because of this service, the military had tolerated their activities. That is, until they opposed the Purge...
  • November 25, 2013
    randomsurfer
    John Carpenters Vampires involves a group of vampire hunters out to stop the head vampire from getting a cross which will let him go out in the sun. There are other vampire hunting teams all around the world, all funded by the Catholic church.
  • November 25, 2013
    DAN004
    ^^ Would Kamen Rider count, then?
  • November 25, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    Nyperold

    works for me. but it's So Okay Its Average. i'm just sticking with this name because nobody complained yet. names implying about what kind of monsters are fought are unnecessary due to internal subtropes.

    by the way, i'm confused by your example. examples need to indicate who they are, what they use, and what they're up against.

    randomsurfer — that counts, but i'd rather not encourage adding more examples over helping polish the description.

    DAN 004 — checking the pages, still no. being a franchise, their monsters vary, some count, some don't.

    again, for Henshin Heroes, use the previously mentioned Gaist Crusher, Senki Zesshou Symphogear, and Madoka as a guide. Humanoid Aliens invade using their monsters for World Domination does not count (World Trigger is kinda this apparently, but get's a pass for being a Subverted Trope). Starfish Aliens kill people or devour matter for food counts.

    again i need input on what to do with the description. i was advised it needed trimming. but what to trim?
  • November 26, 2013
    Synchronicity
    @aurora Yes, but the point is the knowledge had been (nearly) lost by the time the series starts.
  • November 28, 2013
    SharleeD
    Would the Pern novels' dragonriders qualify as this? Thread is certainly an enemy, and it forces people to live underground and to fight back with specific Organic Technology weaponry (dragons), but it's generally described more in terms of a recurrent natural disaster than of "monsters".

    Since the trope has been broadened, possibly this one's appropriate now:

    • Inverted in the Extinct Animals expansion for Zoo Tycoon 2, in which the Dino Capture Team uses specialized equipment (decoy robot, tranq rifle, targeting laser) to knock out rampaging dinosaurs and put them into sealed exhibits.
  • November 29, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ Sharlee D

    Both count. but the second isn't an inversion, it's played straight or downplayed.

    btw, why do i keep getting examples when this isn't even tagged "Needs Examples"? o_O
  • November 29, 2013
    DAN004
    Put the Playing With part somepage else plz.
  • November 30, 2013
    Synchronicity
    • Deconstructed:
      • Being one of a select few that has to protect all of humanity is very mentally taxing on the members, with a lot of them suffering from mental breakdowns or periods of depression.
      • Being one of a select few that has to protect all of humanity leads to the members becoming akin to rock stars, leading to the business becoming very commercialized and people joining for the fame and money.
    • Reconstructed:
      • The system is reorganized to be more caring towards the organizations' members, and The Power Of Friendship pulls through, giving a lot of them hope to fight again (and subsequently, for the audience to root for them again).
      • Lots of the famous members are still good at heart and genuinely desire to protect humanity.

  • December 1, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ Awesome dude. added those. you've hit the nail in the head! by the way, those deconstructions are based on Attack On Titan and Pacific Rim right?

    ^^ I wanted input on it so i put it up there (you know, Description Needs Help and not Needs Examples?). once it gets an okay it's a goner in the description. i have it in a text file though.
  • December 1, 2013
    Koveras
    This organization tends to be an Impartial Purpose Driven Faction.

    • The eponymous witchers in The Witcher series hunt all kinds of monsters, but specifically those who invaded the world after the Conjunction of the Spheres. They would fall under the phlebotinum-powered subtype, since they are genetically enhanced since childhood and have number of supernatural traits to complement their Training From Hell.
  • December 1, 2013
    DAN004
    Put the Playing With part somepage else plz.
  • December 1, 2013
    KarjamP
    Also, you don't just ask for hats.

    Hats are supposed to be confirmation from fellow tropers that the trope's ready for launch/publish.

    In other words, you can't just ask people to agree that this page's ready for publishing, since that's not how it's supposed to work.
  • December 1, 2013
    Synchronicity
    ^ I think OP was just asking people to look it over and see if it was ready?

    ^^ Like where :P

    ^^^^ Actually, it was based on Madoka and Tiger and Bunny (which is not an example of this, incidentally).
  • December 1, 2013
    randomsurfer
  • December 1, 2013
    KarjamP
    ^ If you were to read it carefully, you should see that it supports my point that you can't just persuade people into adding hats (I was wrong about "asking for it", but even then, they can't force others to add hats to the article).

    Proof from said article:

    You should click the "ready to publish" button if and only if you think that:

    • The description is not ambiguous.
    • The trope doesn't duplicate an existing trope.
    • There are at least three examples.
    • The name makes sense.

(The article's actually called Needs Launching Votes, not Needs Hats. Thus, you can tell just by the title of that "tag" what hats actually are.)
  • December 1, 2013
    Koveras
    Personally, I think that "asking for hats" is OK, because in my experience, most YKTTW goers don't open other people's entries if they don't immediately attract their attention. And if they don't open an entry, they cannot know whether it's being bumped up by the OP's diligent Rolling Updates, by comment examples that pile up in OP's absence, or by a desperate OP who doesn't get any feedback. "Asking for hats" in the title/laconic is thus the only way for the OP to let other tropers know that s/he believes the YKTTW is ready for launch.

    IMO the YKTTW needs an additional status, along the lines of "Ready for Final Review", which would inform that another troper believes that this entry is ready for launch. But in absence of that, "asking for hats" is the only way to accomplish that at the moment...
  • December 1, 2013
    Hodor
    An example:

    • The K.J. Parker short story "A Rich Full Week" is about a low ranking professor/wizard who is a member of a university/organization of this type and travels around towns dealing with supernatural issues,the most common being people who after dying come back from the dead and start killing animals and other people and destroying things (sort of a combination of zombie and vampire). The amusing part of the story is the very mundane and unglamorous way in which the profession is described.
  • December 1, 2013
    henke37
    • The titular Hellsing organization is one of several that fights vampires. What makes them unique is the fact that they have some of their own that does the fighting.
  • December 1, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    DAN 004
    Put the Playing With part somepage else plz.

    You're the only one complaining, so no. plus, only Synchronicity noticed it being there and helped improve it anyway.


    Karjam P
    Also, you don't just ask for hats.
    Synchronicity
    ^ I think OP was just asking people to look it over and see if it was ready?
    Exactly this. and the fact that it has attracted a bit of attention because of the "Hats Pls" and got hats means it actually works, even if in a not intended way.

    Yes, i just put it up there to get people complaining about mistakes in the description so they can be fixed. don't worry though, since i often complain about hats, i'll never launch this even if this has five hats if i'm not satisfied with the description.

    In other words, you can't just ask people to agree that this page's ready for publishing, since that's not how it's supposed to work.
    You can say the same for the Description Needs Help tag which for some reason people don't seem to notice it because i get more examples or complaints than actual help in the description.


    @Koveras' Yes, this too! I belong in the "desperate OP who doesn't get any feedback" camp by the way. I apologize for the Atom Bomb level subtlety.

    though seriously, if the current "system" works i don't see the need for that new status. but maybe you can ask the higher ups and see what they think about that?
  • December 1, 2013
    MyFinalEdits
    KarjamP: And what if the lack of launching votes is because no one in the troperbase of the wiki even stops to read the hat? That's the very reason why my draft has been stuck for almost six months. And three of the four hats it has now came only after I showed it in the YKTTW workstation thread. And seeing as launching the trope with less than 5 hats will trigger a cut of the page and a suspension of my handle ..... Mortons Fork, here we go!!

    Anyway, back on topic, here's an example to contribute this one:

    • Monster Hunter is based on this trope. In the games, an organization of hunters known as The Guild hires people so they can find and kill (or capture, depending on the case) large monsters. From a meta perspective, the hunters hired are the players who connect online and play together to complete the hunting quests.
  • December 2, 2013
    DAN004
    Cuz if you don't put your playing with in a sandbox or something I won't give ya my hat. :P
  • December 2, 2013
    Synchronicity
    ^Dude...
  • December 3, 2013
    DAN004
    ^ ?
  • December 3, 2013
    SharleeD
    Why is there a reference to The Matrix listed under Literature? Is it just a mistake, or was that example something out of the movie's novelization?
  • December 3, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ it's a mistake, thanks for pointing that out. i misplaced it when moving around the examples.
  • December 3, 2013
    KarjamP
    @MyFinalEdits: What I've done with mine is to keep doing YKTTW Bumps to it so that it can get the attention of others.

    IE, advertising it.

    Besides, what does that have to do with asking for hats in the first place?

    The fact that the Needs Launching Votes page exists evidentally means that the mods don't mind people asking for votes, as long as said people use the votes to say that the thread's ready for launch.

    And the Description Needs Help tag? Tags are supposed to be used to summerise the problems of the web page.

    If others are ignoring it, why not try to bring it to light instead of invoking The Gadfly? (After all, if you hate lying, like me, you'd have to do that anyway).
  • December 3, 2013
    MyFinalEdits
    I too was making bumps to my YKTTW, and it's not just the lack of hats that was the problem. There weren't even tags or the like, or whether it was ready for launch or not until the very end when I finally received the green light. Note that I don't disagree at all with the criteria and use of common sense when adding or removing a hat. I'm merely saying that there are drafts that just don't get sufficiently examined to even tell if it should be discarded, no matter how many times it's bumped.

    But I suppose this is already a subject for a forum thread so I'll leave another example for the draft:

    • In Inu Yasha, there used to be a group of people dedicated to exterminate the Youkai who were causing mayhem in the villages. During a gory attack orchestrated by Naraku, all of them except two were killed. The two survivors are Sango and her brother Kohaku.
  • December 3, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    @Karjam P

    My Final Edits says it best. even if you keep bumping it up sometimes your YKTTW simply doesn't get read. I also put it up in YKTTW workstation and even there it doesn't really help increase attention. (Kaiju Killing Corps was there and i just left it to rot because i didn't get much input anyway)

    so my solution was be to have hats to get people saying "huh? it has this much hats already? we'll see about that!"

    also, in my opinion the description is sufficient but has grammar mistakes that makes it unlaunchable. so if i don't ask for hats it will never get hats nor get people complaining about the hats and pointing out mistakes.

    on Description Needs Help, if you read the comments you'll see that that's what i've been fruitlessly doing . I even stopped updating examples because i thought it would encourage people to help with the description instead since their examples aren't added, it doesn't.

    then i put up the "hats please" thing. and it got quite a few new people commenting on it or putting new examples. even if they aren't actually helping on the description.
  • December 4, 2013
    DAN004
    Compare Bug War.
  • December 6, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^ interesting. kinda busy at the moment installing windows, will put that in later. "compare bugwar"'s kinda too short and uninformative.
  • December 6, 2013
    SKJAM
    The manga/anime Mushibugyo has the eponymous Insect Magistrate's office, which hunts down the giant insects attacking Edo.
  • December 8, 2013
    Brainhook
    • In Skyrim DLC Dawnguard you can either join an ambitious vampire clan, or the titular vampire hunting organization.
      • The main game also has the Vigilants of Stendarr, a militant order of priesthood that dedicate themselves to hunting daedra, witches, werewolves and the like.
  • December 9, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    can i have one more hat? no one seems to be complaining about the description and i think it's ready for launch. but i don't have the audacity to give myself a hat.
  • December 11, 2013
    BlueGuy
    ^Go ahead and launch it!
  • Three days must pass before this YKTTW is Launchworthy or Discardable

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=vwhttklsgpk1uhnl195ciip0